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POST MATCH THREAD : Peterborough United Vs Charlton Athletic : Saturday 12th August 2023

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  • Blackheathen
    Blackheathen Posts: 6,655
    TEL said:
    I actually gave up and went to bed after 30 minutes. Same old shite, predictable even though we have a handful of different players. That's the first time I've given up.
    You’re just pissed off Australia won 😄
  • _nam11
    _nam11 Posts: 1,231
    edited August 2023
    Alfie needs support, everyone knows this.

    Game 2 of 46, breathe.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
    We’d have drawn that game last season
    just 14 more decent players and we’ll have a promotion pushing squad
    not many teams will come away from Peterborough with any points 
    We’ll probably need 3 more windows to get up to scratch 
    Just 3 more weeks to go and then we’ll have a better idea 
    Orient have just got promoted so will be a tough test 
    Thank you Bristol City
    Our Academy players are brilliant 
    I love third tier football
    Let’s concentrate on the papa johns trophy
    what an exciting season we have ahead
    same old load of Cnut 
    *puts on Addicks To Victory, salutes*
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited August 2023
    TEL said:
    I actually gave up and went to bed after 30 minutes. Same old shite, predictable even though we have a handful of different players. That's the first time I've given up.
    You missed an improved performance in the second half Tel. We were the better team for most of it. 

    Win on Tuesday and we’ll be back in the mix.

    I think I may have said something similar a few times last season though. 
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,258
    AndyG said:
    DH has gone on record saying he wanted to trim the squad down to a more manageable number. I wonder if now he has witnessed our injury curse he has changed his mind
    & if you believe that.................? What manager wouldn't want to increase his squad ? It wouldn't surprise me if he's been told that he can't sign anymore players until he's got rid of those he doesn't want. He's got two youngsters on the bench who shouldn't be anywhere near the first team squad, they should be out on loan. He's got two players on the bench who shouldn't be anywhere near our club. We sign players who aren't fit to play. What about our targets that supposedly are taking time but it's better to wait for them than to chase our second in line targets. What happens if our first choice targets fall through or even if we do finally sign them how long before they are ready to play. Top 6 my arse, this time next year we'll be having the same conversations just like last year :-( 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,284
    Not sure why people are so down on our defence. Didn’t give Orient much last week and today against Peterborough with some of the best attacking players in the league we didn’t really give up many chances. Set pieces was pretty much all they had for most of the game (why did we keep letting them play short corners?!), they had chances at the end but that was the only time we looked open and that was because we were chucking players forward to try and get an equaliser 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
    NabySarr said:
    Not sure why people are so down on our defence. Didn’t give Orient much last week and today against Peterborough with some of the best attacking players in the league we didn’t really give up many chances. Set pieces was pretty much all they had for most of the game (why did we keep letting them play short corners?!), they had chances at the end but that was the only time we looked open and that was because we were chucking players forward to try and get an equaliser 
    Our fans hate defenders. Dunno why, but they do. Always the first to be scapegoated 
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,147
    I was watching on iPad in car whilst watching my eldest play cricket , reception wasn’t great so the feed was a bit intermittent but did I really see a last minute of added time , keeper up , free kick just get floated straight out of play by Edun ?
    The masters of the anti climax 
  • Wellred
    Wellred Posts: 1,118
    I thought a fair result would have been a draw was it good enough No 
    I said it when Holden came in it will only be a matter of time until he goes on our manager roundabout & follows them out the door 
    I know some on here don't want to hear this but I don't think he's good enough to take us up hopefully he will prove me wrong 

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  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,284
    Wellred said:
    I thought a fair result would have been a draw was it good enough No 
    I said it when Holden came in it will only be a matter of time until he goes on our manager roundabout & follows them out the door 
    I know some on here don't want to hear this but I don't think he's good enough to take us up hopefully he will prove me wrong 

    Still too early to properly judge him. He still doesn’t actually have the players to play the way he wants too. That’s not his fault 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,001
    edited August 2023
    Wellred said:
    I thought a fair result would have been a draw was it good enough No 
    I said it when Holden came in it will only be a matter of time until he goes on our manager roundabout & follows them out the door 
    I know some on here don't want to hear this but I don't think he's good enough to take us up hopefully he will prove me wrong 

    With the squad he's got right now... he isn't. But Jackson could not have got this squad promoted, or Bowyer or Adkins or Powell or Curbishley.

    The problems we have are way bigger and longer term than Dean Holden. He might not be the messiah but I doubt anyone is going to do much better in the situation he's in.

    If we invest in the points that everyone can blatantly see are weak points and still look poor then his position becomes questionable, but not now.
  • Wellred
    Wellred Posts: 1,118
    NabySarr said:
    Wellred said:
    I thought a fair result would have been a draw was it good enough No 
    I said it when Holden came in it will only be a matter of time until he goes on our manager roundabout & follows them out the door 
    I know some on here don't want to hear this but I don't think he's good enough to take us up hopefully he will prove me wrong 

    Still too early to properly judge him. He still doesn’t actually have the players to play the way he wants too. That’s not his fault 
    IMO like I said it's only a matter of time the signs are there instead of addressing the issues he comes out with excuses 
    & I do hope he does prove me wrong but a good manager would get more out these players then he does 

  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,359
    I actually didn't think it was that bad? I am someone who said repeatedly before the season as well that we are well off it squad wise. 

    Thought we limited their chances, most of their chances came from us going for it. You've got to remember Peterborough aren't no chumps, that squad could very well have been a championship side this season and we are still a team learning and adapting with new players. 

    It's a one goal swing, we draw 0-0, 1-1 is the general consensus different on here? I imagine so. On the walk out I heard a fair few Peterborough fans saying there was nothing in it and a draw would have been fair. 

    Everyone knows what's wrong and when/if it's addressed I am sure we will be knocking about up there. The main positive for me is we looked like the home team/more controlled side and it was just one little error that cost us. If we go in at halftime 0-0 the game is totally different. 

    I ain't jumping the gun yet, lets see how we do against Bristol Rovers after this.

    Positives to take- 

    Dobson was brilliant, Camara was very good bar his error, our defenders looked up to the task mostly, we kept a team with one of the best attacks in the league's chances to a minimum and just in general the effort was there. It's not like they didn't give it a go. 

    Close game and unfortunately it just wasn't our day, plenty more points to play for 
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,701
    I'll reserve judgement until after 10 games but yes we need reinforcements, yes it could be better but genuinely dont think we are far away from being competitive. 

    Keep the faith people.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,039
    AndyG said:
    DH has gone on record saying he wanted to trim the squad down to a more manageable number. I wonder if now he has witnessed our injury curse he has changed his mind
    In other words Charlie and gang told him to offload.
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    Oh FFS. Let's change the manager, again, keep throwing the dice. We change owners faster than most clubs change managers. Do you really think he is out there? 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    Southbank said:
    AndyHolG said:
    se9addick said:
    AndyG said:
    Our season won’t depend on losing 1-0 to teams that will be in and about the top 6 at the end of the season. Yes we lost but that was a 50/50 game and we will strengthen I’m sure. Our seasons success or failure will depend on the amount of points we drop against teams we should beat
    Surely if our ambition is to get promoted we’ll need to win some matches against the top six
    too?
    Yes of course and I’m sure we will my point was I think some people are over reacting to a close 1-0 defeat to a club that is always there or thereabouts. Today could easily been 1-0 to us it was a very close game and we had nowhere near what I’m sure our starting lineup will be in a few weeks time
    According to Holden, Fraser is out for 3/4 weeks, Campbell too. No sign of Leaburn or Aneke.  etc etc with the other injured.
    So in 'a few weeks' we will be where we are now unless new, actually match fit,  players are brought in.

    I am not holding my breath.
    There will be 4/5 new additions by 1st Sept 
    A month too late. But never mind. Just hope the investors have deep pockets as they will he funding another promotion push next season. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    edited August 2023
    Leaburn got injured against Welling about 6 weeks ago. 
    How fucking long should it take to bring In a replacement. 
    Pisses me off that we are so late every transfer window to do the basics.
    The view on here at the time was that once the real state of Leaburns injury was known (The monday / tuesday after the Welling game) then the club went back in for May & got the deal done - he signed at the end of that week.

    It would not surprise me that if Leaburn had not been injured Alfie May would not be here now & we would still be playing hardball with Cheltenham....like (as we've been told by the same posters) the situation with Nombe (and others I assume).

    Strikerwise we have the replacement for Leaburn. Dont be expecting anything more than a loanee / freebie close to deadline day. 


  • TEL
    TEL Posts: 10,100
    JamesSeed said:
    TEL said:
    I actually gave up and went to bed after 30 minutes. Same old shite, predictable even though we have a handful of different players. That's the first time I've given up.
    You missed an improved performance in the second half Tel. We were the better team for most of it. 

    Win on Tuesday and we’ll be back in the mix.

    I think I may have said something similar a few times last season though. 
    You know I sat up all night last season hoping to see us play well with at least a fighting spirit. However the first thirty minutes watching us trying to play out from the back, getting the ball to Blackett Taylor who immediately passed it back to the back three for the umpteenth time was frankly tedious. It was also my fifth game of the day and frankly I got more enjoyment out of watching a couple of games in the PFF league. So I decided sleep was a better option. 
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  • Blackheathen
    Blackheathen Posts: 6,655
    JamesSeed said:
    As I just said on the match the other thread, we could easily have nicked a draw, and there'd be much more positivity if we had. A big 'if' I know.

    Positives for me were;

    AMB who looked very good today. Decent distribution as well.
    Ness. Much better performance. Great tackle at the end.
    Dobbo, extremely good today. He's some player, not just a tackler.
    Corey. Again our biggest threat. Could have had a goal and/or an assist today.
    The brothers, Asiimwe and Anderson. Great performances bearing in mind their ages.
    Edun, again looked good apart from the final free kick.
    Camara, decent performance, barring the howler.
    Payne. Good game by him. Always worked hard.

    One of the negatives were the corners. Posh played those short ones very well, but we lacked the confidence to try that for some reason.

    We clearly need more quality. A target man for May to work around is key. 

    [And @seth plum, your players marks were a bit mental mate].
    Leave Seth alone James 😒
  • fenlandaddick
    fenlandaddick Posts: 1,769
    edited August 2023
    The young players are a credit to our academy and our club. Highlights were AMB had some fantastic saves, Ness an amazing defensive tackle at the end, Anderson busy in midfield and Asimwee had another excellent performance hugging the touchline. Considering Posh are rated, the youngsters did not look out of place at all. 
    Cory worked harder on his defense game too I noticed. Lots of positives, just need the obvious gaps filled with some more quality.
    If this happens I really think we have a chance of top 6.
  • redbuttle
    redbuttle Posts: 1,981
    shine166 said:
    Result aside, that charters bar is a great place for a beer. 
    Yes it was blinding yesterday.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,147
    https://youtu.be/w12EPmWrGRw

    Highlights from yesterday 5min 40 onwards 
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    Promotion isn't decided in the second week of the season and for me the youngsters coming in and being a success have solved a few issues. Until the mistake by Camara, the defence didn't look like being breached, they look so much better when defending set piece situations, I don't think anyone on here would drop Ness, Jones or or Thomas. The midfield dominated yesterday and that was the Posh commentary teams assumption not mine, I looked at the player marks on here and most gave that midfield a good mark, and that was from people who were there or had a feed to watch. Payne had a good game but is not an out and out forward to go alongside May, and against Orient we played Campbell in that position and probably would have done so yesterday if he was fit, that is the position that needs filling with some quality, if the owners achieve that then you can assess the team, patience until the end of August is needed. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    I must admit, I don't like aspects of the way we play from the back. It is early days but we are a bit slow. We also have to smell danger better and if required boot the ball upfield when the press looks like it could cause us problems. That is down to the players and experience playing that way to know when to give up on it.

    Some take aways from yesterday. Anderson was ok, but he will improve and a few games could speed that up. Asiimwe looked more than decent. It was a mistake by Camara but looked more unlucky on the replay. If CBT gets injured we are in massive trouble offensively. Dobbo looks better than ever. Payne is a better option than Kirk and I think we need to keep him but he does lack that final bit of quality and his role should be to bring energy from the bench. A better option but not the solution. Because we lack goals, the next couple of games are going to be tight, irrespective of the opposition. 
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited August 2023
    Wellred said:
    NabySarr said:
    Wellred said:
    I thought a fair result would have been a draw was it good enough No 
    I said it when Holden came in it will only be a matter of time until he goes on our manager roundabout & follows them out the door 
    I know some on here don't want to hear this but I don't think he's good enough to take us up hopefully he will prove me wrong 

    Still too early to properly judge him. He still doesn’t actually have the players to play the way he wants too. That’s not his fault 
    IMO like I said it's only a matter of time the signs are there instead of addressing the issues he comes out with excuses 
    & I do hope he does prove me wrong but a good manager would get more out these players then he does 

    An alternative view is that a change of manager might get a worse tune out of them. I thought we looked the most likely to score in the second half yesterday, but at the same time only CBT and Dobbo stood out as being as good as or better than what Posh had on the pitch. 
  • Was at the game 

    IF we had sorted our front line i.e. a proper partner for May, we would have won this match - end of - we kept the ball well, were in control - yep, cock up for their goal, but this is Div 3, the standard of players will always produce errors - so frustrating 
    Serious question how many cock ups did Peterborough make?
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    CBT's self made chances looked our only real attempts to equalise.