MATCH THREAD (+POST P13): Newport County v Charlton Athletic: Tues 8th Aug 2023: (EFL Cup Rd 1)

thickandthin63 said:

DubaiCAFC said:

thickandthin63 said:

Just watched the highlights(didnt take long)My fears about Hector as a defender were confirmed.
1)Goal 1 yes Mcgrandles should have done better,but Hector should have put that out and not give it to a player under pressure near our goal line.
2)goal 2 The header by Ness was poor(Innis would have put that near the half way line)but Hector was nowhere near his man when the ball came in.
3)Another pass by Hector to a man under pressure near his own penalty area,ball lost comes back,tap in.
Yes I know we were lacking up front,but this poncing about is going to cost us dearly.If we dont liven up on saturday,I can see our goal difference taking a hammering.

Can't blame a player for another players poor first touch.. Both times, they had time, if the first touch was good enough. Hector is a defender, that is going to look to play out. 

Maybe should have been tighter for the 3rd goal, but also think the keeper should have done better, went straight under him.

I agree the touches of the midfielders left a bit to be desired,but without wishing to be seen jumping on a players back early in the season,Hector does worry me.Against Aberdeen two of their goals were pull backs after Ness had been beaten,I thought he should have been tighter there.
if we are to persist with the playing out system.it has to be done quicker.at the moment,teams are letting us have the ball and just dropping off.

Maybe, I think if Hector plays he needs to play in the middle of the 3. But looks like Ness is first choice in the middle at the moment.. I would like to see a more mobile CB come in.

thenewbie said:

NabySarr said:

Talal said:

For anyone that went, apart from the slip how did Taylor look? 

Not great. Looked a bit lost playing further forward to start with. Then when McGrandles went off he dropped back into his role and was a little better. Not a great debut but it is his first 45 minutes since February last season so can’t really judge him on it. Set piece delivery looked pretty good 

He probably wasn't helped by being dropped into a team that was playing pretty badly in general. It would probably be a bit unfair to expect him to turn the whole thing around when no-one covered themselves in glory.

Let's not McGrandles him yet, give him a chance to play a bit more consistently and go from there.

Funnily enough, finds himself in the same Mcgrandles signing situation as last season, signed injured/ recovering from injury, no preseason and then thrown in at the deep end to get match fit. 

thenewbie said:

NabySarr said:

Talal said:

For anyone that went, apart from the slip how did Taylor look? 

Not great. Looked a bit lost playing further forward to start with. Then when McGrandles went off he dropped back into his role and was a little better. Not a great debut but it is his first 45 minutes since February last season so can’t really judge him on it. Set piece delivery looked pretty good 

He probably wasn't helped by being dropped into a team that was playing pretty badly in general. It would probably be a bit unfair to expect him to turn the whole thing around when no-one covered themselves in glory.

Let's not McGrandles him yet, give him a chance to play a bit more consistently and go from there.

We were 1-0 up when he came on. I assume it was a preplanned HT sub to give him 45, and take Camara off.

He had bright red boots on, so easy to see who gave away the 3rd goal...

Dazzler21 said:

CAMARA

No need to get snappy 

Another cup defeat to go with the others to a team from a division below us and there have been plenty of those over the last few years.  

This underlines that there's something wrong with the culture at the club that continually surrenders to teams who demonstrate a bit more fight and determination. We've seen in League One matches also on too many occasions that we run out of ideas once our opponents get under our skin and disrupt our rhythm. That's what we (well Dean Holden) needs to turn around if we have genuine top six/promotion ambitions. 

A few players who might have thought they were in contention for a place in the starting XI in the league need to be considering their next career move. They were given a chance to demonstrate that they are worth playing against Peterborough in the league and they blew it. 

So, over to Andy Scott to shift them on and bring in some new blood. 

timken said:

Why "well done to those who travelled.They got on a train ,went in a pub watched a game of football came home.Well done to those who went to work instead of wasting time and money watching that shit

I take it you do not attend many away games SUPPORTING the team.

How did Edun play can anyone there say ?

DOUCHER said:

Well the mood swingometer has been flapping like mad this week - from massive optimism to a massive downer in the space of 4 days - personally I think we went into yesterdays game knowing we need 5 good players in and 5 no hopers out and that remains the case - I’m still optimistic and am prepared to wait until the window closes to make any meaningful judgement on the new regime 

A Far too sensible and measured post Doucher!

Lewis Coaches said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

timken said:

Why "well done to those who travelled.They got on a train ,went in a pub watched a game of football came home.Well done to those who went to work instead of wasting time and money watching that shit

I take it you do not attend many away games SUPPORTING the team.

Inference of @timken he has over 50 years been watching Charlton home and away.
Understandable sometimes you know work pays for football and yesterday would make anyone pull their hair out over that result.

A cracking away trip, save (as is so often the case) for the football, although my expectations for that were pretty low - albeit not as low as the depths plumbed during that diabolical second half. We met an old friend of mine who lives just outside Newport just before 1 o'clock and he took us around a number of very good pre-match pubs, all of which were excellent value - the Godfrey Morgan (Wetherspoons - so just over £2 a pint with CAMRA vouchers); Tiny Rebel (all beer £3 a pint Monday to Wednesdays); The Pen and Wig (two meals for the price of one); and The Little Tap House.

En route to the last pub, we checked into The Mercure Hotel, only to find that we'd been 'bumped' from the twin room which I had booked a month ago, doubtless because it had been given to the Charlton squad who were assembled in reception before walking over to the stadium. After firmly rejecting the offer of a sofa bed in a suite, the assistant manager eventually gave us a suite each at no additional cost. As I emphasised to her, it wasn't a case of "all our double rooms have been sold"; rather, the hotel had unilaterally given our room away - especially galling, as they'd been sending me emails almost daily  in advance, trying to flog their other services. Anyway, all's well that ends well.

As for the game, the less said the better. We played the first half in second gear, dominating possession without not doing a great deal with it. Kanu's goal looked to have given us a good platform but a catastrophic second half defensive performance did for us and, after Newport equalised, there was only ever likely to be one winner. No Charlton player emerged with any real credit and stand-ins like Isted, McGrandles, Payne and Kirk (the ultimate buck-passer) did themselves no favours whatsoever. In the end, we were deservedly well beaten by a poor but determined League 2 team. Going out of the League Cup is not the end of the world but the injuries - especially Campbell's - are worrying given the current lack of squad depth.

At least we were able to assuage our wounds with a couple of further post-match pints in Tiny Rebel. There was no sign of the players at breakfast this morning - they must have either gone home last night on the coach or left early this morning with their collective tail between their legs. A big improvement required and let's hope we can also get some quality through the door well before the end of the window.