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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)
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Quality player but should have Champ options and some fans even want him to be considered for first team squad.SwingForward said:Charlton looking at a loan deal for West Ham wingback Emmanuel Longelo - West Ham keen to get him some first team action this season.0 -
“An adventurous and athletic left-back” - the right type of left back then, more so than the Spurs youngster who’s a CB that can play left back.RedChaser said:
Believe so https://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2021/may/18-may/emmanuel-longelo-signs-new-west-ham-united-contractbobmunro said:SwingForward said:Charlton looking at a loan deal for West Ham wingback Emmanuel Longelo - West Ham keen to get him some first team action this season.
Leftie?
Ideally I’d like a permanent signing in that position. Would be great to have a long term Wiggins style left back playing behind Kirk.6 -
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Blimey can wee renamed thus as the incorect spalling Fred.10
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Is that you Ronnie? 😉CharltonKerry said:Blimey can wee renamed thus as the incorect spalling Fred.5 -
I can c the berth of anuver pun ifff weee r nott carfulCharltonKerry said:Blimey can wee renamed thus as the incorect spalling Fred.
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I quite like getting loans from West Ham. They have a great academy and you know that players that get to where they are ready for loans will have been schooled well. I’m sure Emmanuel Longelo will be a bit raw and like Maatsen before him will make errors but it’s an exciting prospect to have an attack minded wing back option to compete with steady eddy Purrington. I guess we’ll see.2
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Hearing Jephcott is in the mix.27
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Under 21 tooRedChaser said:
Believe so;bobmunro said:SwingForward said:Charlton looking at a loan deal for West Ham wingback Emmanuel Longelo - West Ham keen to get him some first team action this season.
Leftie?
https://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2021/may/18-may/emmanuel-longelo-signs-new-west-ham-united-contract1 -
Good to hear a few rumours flying around now. More conversation about rumours than "the list" at long last.8
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His passing is accurate though. Once he get one he’ll calm down in front of goal and be more composedse9addick said:
Morgan’s shooting accuracy is the worst of any attacking player in the history of professional football.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Sean Clare got 2 goals in 58 games at Gillingham, Oxford and Burton.Callumcafc said:
Stockley 15-20ValleyGary said:Still not sure that starting 11 has enough goals in it.
DJ & Kirk 15-20 between them
Gilbey 5-10
Morgan 5
Clare 5
Inniss & other defenders 5
Washington 10
That’s a 60-75 goals. The numbers add up quickly.
Morgan has 1 league goal in his career.
The most Gilbey has ever got in a season is 5.
All would have to improve dramatically to reach your numbers. Not impossible of course, and i hope they do, but it's a bit unlikely.4 -
Sean Clare has been mostly played out of position at those clubs, especially Oxford (17 apps at right back). I would be hoping we’ll get the Clare that had license to get forward and support attacks at Hearts where he got 7 in 54.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Sean Clare got 2 goals in 58 games at Gillingham, Oxford and Burton.Callumcafc said:
Stockley 15-20ValleyGary said:Still not sure that starting 11 has enough goals in it.
DJ & Kirk 15-20 between them
Gilbey 5-10
Morgan 5
Clare 5
Inniss & other defenders 5
Washington 10
That’s a 60-75 goals. The numbers add up quickly.
Morgan has 1 league goal in his career.
The most Gilbey has ever got in a season is 5.
All would have to improve dramatically to reach your numbers. Not impossible of course, and i hope they do, but it's a bit unlikely.
Morgan has one league goal in his career yes. He’s just been given the no.10 shirt and should be expected to kick on now. But all of a sudden the AM fan club are telling me to manage expectation and five goals is too many to ask? That has to be a bare minimum for someone with the 10 on their back and the talent he possesses.
I’ll give you Gilbey but at the same time, I am supremely confident that Adkins unlocked something there that we didn’t see under Bow. 3 in 10 is good going from midfield and translates to 13-14 in a full season. He can get to 10 with enough minutes.3 -
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For what it's worth if Albie remains our key play maker in the 10 role, I do expect him to score at least 5.
Gilbey I would guess is Albie's direct competition. If they get 5 each, I'd say that's decent.
If we agree on the 15 from the wings.
Stockley adds another 15 imo.
Washington is our unknown in this formation. I'd say 7-10 if he's used regularly.
The rest of the squad combined maybe 15-20 goals.
That's around 70 goals.
When JFC returns, we can expect 2-3 from him too.
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Really liked what I saw with Gilbey under Adkins. He’s one of those players whose attributes are better without the ball; pressing, defensively sound, making runs into the box late. Only concern is that when teams come to sit back and he is forced to try and play as a playmaker when it’s not his strengths.Callumcafc said:
Sean Clare has been mostly played out of position at those clubs, especially Oxford (17 apps at right back). I would be hoping we’ll get the Clare that had license to get forward and support attacks at Hearts where he got 7 in 54.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Sean Clare got 2 goals in 58 games at Gillingham, Oxford and Burton.Callumcafc said:
Stockley 15-20ValleyGary said:Still not sure that starting 11 has enough goals in it.
DJ & Kirk 15-20 between them
Gilbey 5-10
Morgan 5
Clare 5
Inniss & other defenders 5
Washington 10
That’s a 60-75 goals. The numbers add up quickly.
Morgan has 1 league goal in his career.
The most Gilbey has ever got in a season is 5.
All would have to improve dramatically to reach your numbers. Not impossible of course, and i hope they do, but it's a bit unlikely.
Morgan has one league goal in his career yes. He’s just been given the no.10 shirt and should be expected to kick on now. But all of a sudden the AM fan club are telling me to manage expectation and five goals is too many to ask? That has to be a bare minimum for someone with the 10 on their back and the talent he possesses.
I’ll give you Gilbey but at the same time, I am supremely confident that Adkins unlocked something there that we didn’t see under Bow. 3 in 10 is good going from midfield and translates to 13-14 in a full season. He can get to 10 with enough minutes.1 -
I'd be very surprised if he gets more than 5 goals, personally whoever is CAM or the playmaker will need to get more 8-10, with assists in abundance like 10-15, I don't think currently Albie offers this. Happy if he is a back up or brought on. I am not sure he is quite ready still and doubtful whether he is even league one standard. Again i don't want to criticise him too much, just my current opinion, if Gilbey is not fit for another month we need someone or we need to change our formation to accommodate two up front.Callumcafc said:
Sean Clare has been mostly played out of position at those clubs, especially Oxford (17 apps at right back). I would be hoping we’ll get the Clare that had license to get forward and support attacks at Hearts where he got 7 in 54.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Sean Clare got 2 goals in 58 games at Gillingham, Oxford and Burton.Callumcafc said:
Stockley 15-20ValleyGary said:Still not sure that starting 11 has enough goals in it.
DJ & Kirk 15-20 between them
Gilbey 5-10
Morgan 5
Clare 5
Inniss & other defenders 5
Washington 10
That’s a 60-75 goals. The numbers add up quickly.
Morgan has 1 league goal in his career.
The most Gilbey has ever got in a season is 5.
All would have to improve dramatically to reach your numbers. Not impossible of course, and i hope they do, but it's a bit unlikely.
Morgan has one league goal in his career yes. He’s just been given the no.10 shirt and should be expected to kick on now. But all of a sudden the AM fan club are telling me to manage expectation and five goals is too many to ask? That has to be a bare minimum for someone with the 10 on their back and the talent he possesses.
I’ll give you Gilbey but at the same time, I am supremely confident that Adkins unlocked something there that we didn’t see under Bow. 3 in 10 is good going from midfield and translates to 13-14 in a full season. He can get to 10 with enough minutes.
TLDR: Albie prove me wrong please!0 -
Clare will get goals in this team. He has been played out of position in previous clubs. Gilby if he can get back to fitness will also get goals I'm sure. Alfie is another matter imo. Adkins has been clever in terms of being supportive towards him but if we bring another starting midfielder in it will be Albie that makes way I think.7
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Looks a good finisher from the vid. Not knocking him as a potential signing whatsoever, but his goals appear to be reliant on good supply from wingers laying it on a plate for the tidy finish - not a pace man too run in behind or create for himself. We haven't in recent history always played that way with the wingers and had strikers like Ajose come in with a similar highlight reel and never played to that strength resulting in them looking pony. Kirks wing play would look suited to him based on those clips. If Adkins is purely pacey/tricky wingers and the bigger target man who can also finish then he would fit the bill but still want that no 10 in as higher priorityValley11 said:2 -
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that's the chap - BirminghamChris_from_Sidcup said:JamesSeed said:What the hell?!
Charlie Kirk signs a four year deal, and rumours that Solomon Otaba is trialling and Tobi Omole is joining on loan from Spurs.All in one day.Nurse!!DOUCHER said:
otaba training with us this week is not a rumour - its a factJamesSeed said:What the hell?!
Charlie Kirk signs a four year deal, and rumours that Solomon Otaba is trialling and Tobi Omole is joining on loan from Spurs.All in one day.Nurse!!Richard J said:After signing Kirk I would be surprised if Soloman Otomar or Sims was under consideration.
Surely we would need a left footed Winger now. DJ and Kirk are both right footed.Solomon-Otabor
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I seem to remember Ajose’s highlight reel being way more impressive. Scored every sort of goal you can imagine, not just tap ins.MummysLittleSoldier said:
Looks a good finisher from the vid. Not knocking him as a potential signing whatsoever, but his goals appear to be reliant on good supply from wingers laying it on a plate for the tidy finish - not a pace man too run in behind or create for himself. We've had strikers like Ajose come in with a similar highlight reel and we've never played to that strength resulting in them looking pony. Kirks wing play would look suited to him based on those clipsValley11 said:0 -
Believe Clare got 6 assists in 20 Burton appearances too. So can clearly pass.AndyG said:Clare will get goals in this team. He has been played out of position in previous clubs. Gilby if he can get back to fitness will also get goals I'm sure. Alfie is another matter imo. Adkins has been clever in terms of being supportive towards him but if we bring another starting midfielder in it will be Albie that makes way I think.0 -
I'd be very impressed if we got Jephcott simply because i can't believe he'd have no Championship interest.3
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adventurous?? - won't mind if brown thumb does the medical thenScoham said:
“An adventurous and athletic left-back” - the right type of left back then, more so than the Spurs youngster who’s a CB that can play left back.RedChaser said:
Believe so https://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2021/may/18-may/emmanuel-longelo-signs-new-west-ham-united-contractbobmunro said:SwingForward said:Charlton looking at a loan deal for West Ham wingback Emmanuel Longelo - West Ham keen to get him some first team action this season.
Leftie?
Ideally I’d like a permanent signing in that position. Would be great to have a long term Wiggins style left back playing behind Kirk.
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Not the best video that. And based on it looks no better than WashingtonValley11 said:3 -
Yes, agree. Dion Charles would be a quality signingcarly burn said:
Not the best video that. And based on it looks no better than WashingtonValley11 said:2 -
it was better back in the Curbishley era when we just nicked themShootersHillGuru said:I quite like getting loans from West Ham. They have a great academy and you know that players that get to where they are ready for loans will have been schooled well. I’m sure Emmanuel Longelo will be a bit raw and like Maatsen before him will make errors but it’s an exciting prospect to have an attack minded wing back option to compete with steady eddy Purrington. I guess we’ll see.0 -
You could be right mate, more highlight reels than hot dinners on here. Easy to forgetJamesSeed said:
I seem to remember Ajose’s highlight reel being way more impressive. Scored every sort of goal you can imagine, not just tap ins.
Point remains that if your striker has looked good scoring goals for a team who attack the byline and cut back for the composed finish, if we don't play like that and lump it long to him he's gonna look bang average I'd imagine. Targeted Ajose there cos I don't think he was a shocking player but we gave him little to no chance to look good with our setup0
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