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  • edited August 2021
    6 more needed in my opinion. I hope we can get that many without taking 4 loans additional to Famewo. I think we should try and keep one or two loan slots open for January - usually easier to get a loan than a permanent signing in January.
    Out of interest, which 6 of our current squad do you not want to play this season? Squad cap is in place. 
    You are allowed 22 outfield players in your squad. 
    Including Kirk, i make it 22 outfield already, that’s why I was asking if someone wants 6 more in, which 6 will they exclude. 
    I think we've got 19:
    Matthews, Gunter
    Purrington
    Inniss, Famewo, Pearce
    Watson, Dobson, Morgan, Gilbey, Clare, Dempsey
    DJ, Kirk, Washington
    Stockley, Schwartz, Davison, Ghandour

    EDIT - Excluding JFC so happy to count it as 20. 
    Ghandour and Morgan both count as under 21.

    We have 18 senior outfield players according to the EFL definition.

    The 2021/22 limit is 20.
    You sure it's 20 - EFL website says 22 - Microsoft Word - Regulations Season 2021-22 Final (efl.com) - page 68
    Sorry you are right. They have changed it since it was introduced. It was meant to step down from 22 to 21 this season but guess it stayed due to Covid.

    Either way we have 18, so now 4 squad spaces.
  • 6 more needed in my opinion. I hope we can get that many without taking 4 loans additional to Famewo. I think we should try and keep one or two loan slots open for January - usually easier to get a loan than a permanent signing in January.
    Out of interest, which 6 of our current squad do you not want to play this season? Squad cap is in place. 
    You are allowed 22 outfield players in your squad. 
    Including Kirk, i make it 22 outfield already, that’s why I was asking if someone wants 6 more in, which 6 will they exclude. 
    I think we've got 19:
    Matthews, Gunter
    Purrington
    Inniss, Famewo, Pearce
    Watson, Dobson, Morgan, Gilbey, Clare, Dempsey
    DJ, Kirk, Washington
    Stockley, Schwartz, Davison, Ghandour

    EDIT - Excluding JFC so happy to count it as 20. 
    Ghandour and Morgan both count as under 21.

    We have 18 senior outfield players according to the EFL definition.

    The 2021/22 limit is 20.
    You sure it's 20 - EFL website says 22 - Microsoft Word - Regulations Season 2021-22 Final (efl.com) - page 68
    Sorry you are right. They have changed it since it was introduced. It was meant to step down from 22 to 21 this season but guess it stayed due to Covid.

    Either way we have 18, so now 4 squad spaces.
    I don't think we should include JFC though. Even if he's back start of December madness to include him. Let him come back in the U23's ready for Jan. 
  • DOUCHER said:
    We definitely need a more attacking LB if we're going to play a 433 with the 2 winger cutting inside. You need to challenge their defence, so that they don't know whether to cover the winger of overlapping full back

    I've a suspicion that Morgan, Clare and Dobson will be competing for 2 places, as we'll need a goal scoring midfielder to make the system work. That might be Gilbey, but I think we'll bring someone in
    yep, pacey left back next on my list after the midfield general then its prem loans for cb, pacey striker/goalscorer and another winger 
    Tbf mate I would say a goalscorer needs to be before that with the main resources we know we can defend its the goals that need to be brought in and aneke NEEDS replacing especially the goals !!
    agreed but people keep saying its stockey and 2 winger / come strikers so where does the goalscorer play? only when we play 442??
  • Squad limit should be fine, assuming that a couple of loans will be U21.
  • DOUCHER said:
    DOUCHER said:
    Do we know who the player training with us is yet?.....that @DOUCHER mentioned.

    Was thinking it could be Viv Soloman-Otabor & that our medical / coaching team are trying to get him up to fitness before we agree a contract with him.

    Could be a useful addition based on what he produced at Wigan last yr.
    just asked my mate for an update on that - will report back when i know anything 
    it is solomon otaba on trial 
    Don’t hate that. 
  • Laddick01 said:
    DOUCHER said:
    DOUCHER said:
    Do we know who the player training with us is yet?.....that @DOUCHER mentioned.

    Was thinking it could be Viv Soloman-Otabor & that our medical / coaching team are trying to get him up to fitness before we agree a contract with him.

    Could be a useful addition based on what he produced at Wigan last yr.
    just asked my mate for an update on that - will report back when i know anything 
    it is solomon otaba on trial 
    Don’t hate that. 
    Think he'd be very useful
  • edited August 2021
    DOUCHER said:
    DOUCHER said:
    Do we know who the player training with us is yet?.....that @DOUCHER mentioned.

    Was thinking it could be Viv Soloman-Otabor & that our medical / coaching team are trying to get him up to fitness before we agree a contract with him.

    Could be a useful addition based on what he produced at Wigan last yr.
    just asked my mate for an update on that - will report back when i know anything 
    it is solomon otaba on trial 
    Wigan wanted to keep him on so guess he can't be terrible. 

    25 and I suppose is a fine League One Winger. Good back-up option on a free. 

    Plays on either flank and seems to chip in with the occasional goal and assist. 
  • edited August 2021
    Squad limit should be fine, assuming that a couple of loans will be U21.
    Even if not, we should be fine. If we include the following:
    Gunter, Matthews, Purrington, NEW LB
    Inniss, Famewo, Pearce, NEW CB
    Dobson, Watson, Clare, Morgan, Gilbey, NEW CM/CAM
    DJ, Kirk, Washington, NEW WINGER
    Stockley, Davison, Schwartz

    That's 21 so still leaves us room for 1 and gives the right balance. We probably need another striker, but I can't imagine we'll have 4 plus Washington so you'd expect either Davison or Schwartz to depart. We'd still have room to include either JFC or Dempsey. 
  • edited August 2021
    Dazzler21 said:
    Dazzler21 said:

    Active rumours 

    - Kirk move is currently ON still. 
    - Henderson to come in as number 2
    - Viv Solomon-Otabor training with us


    Secondary rumours (Old/No new info)

    - Jack Tucker a target
    - Viv Solomon-Otabor failed medical - potentially still a target?
    One down potentially four to go?
    Moved Viv Solomon-Otabor to "Active" 
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  • Andy Delort?
  • With the restriction on squad numbers, Watson feels like a waste of a space
    You could delete the first half of that sentence and it would still be right. 
  • CH4RLTON said:
    Still not sure that starting 11 has enough goals in it.
    Stockley 15-20
    DJ & Kirk 15-20 between them
    Gilbey 5-10
    Morgan 5
    Clare 5
    Inniss & other defenders 5
    Washington 10

    That’s a 60-75 goals. The numbers add up quickly.
    Yep plus the fact Adkins is aiming for 26 clean sheets if we win say 20 of those and draw 6 we technically only 20 goals for 66 points , no doubt our defensive will be key and they stay fit I can’t see us not challenging 
       


    Loving your positivity..have a like 👍 
  • Having watched the video of Kirk & having read what Crewe fans have said I'd say we need an attacking LB to overlap with Kirk & also a poacher to finish off the chances he creates. He puts a lot of balls across the 6 yard line & would be a shame to see them go to waste.

    As for Morgan. I see him more as a playmaker as his passing is pretty decent....but he is not a finisher & I doubt he'd get more than a couple of goals a season. Not enough composure & not a natural striker if the ball. 

    All in all, another 3 or 4 players and we should be sorted.

    Striker
    Left back
    Attacking midfielder 

     
    I agree with all this, Golfie
  • edited August 2021
    DOUCHER said:
    DOUCHER said:
    Do we know who the player training with us is yet?.....that @DOUCHER mentioned.

    Was thinking it could be Viv Soloman-Otabor & that our medical / coaching team are trying to get him up to fitness before we agree a contract with him.

    Could be a useful addition based on what he produced at Wigan last yr.
    just asked my mate for an update on that - will report back when i know anything 
    it is solomon otaba on trial 
    Must be keeping fit with us, getting some physio for his knee. Would sign him all day long. 
  • I've been told we're going to sign Tobi Omole from Spurs on loan, 21 year old left footed cb originally from Lewisham, 6ft2 so i would guess cover for Akin as to not rely on Deji to play in the league at least

    Source is from Spurs end, also didn't confirm when other than before the window shuts



    My mates little brother used to play with him for Thamesmead. Don't believe they are still in touch. Used to play down the wing for them then started growing and got moved to CB I think. 
  • I've been told we're going to sign Tobi Omole from Spurs on loan, 21 year old left footed cb originally from Lewisham, 6ft2 so i would guess cover for Akin as to not rely on Deji to play in the league at least

    Source is from Spurs end, also didn't confirm when other than before the window shuts



    Went to St Columbas in Bexleyheath, was an Arsenal academy player but after being released moved to Spurs
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  • With the restriction on squad numbers, Watson feels like a waste of a space
    You could delete the first half of that sentence and it would still be right. 
    The difference with squad number restrictions, is that deadwood players aren't just a waste of a salary, they're actually preventing us signing someone else
  • Jac_52 said:
    I've been told we're going to sign Tobi Omole from Spurs on loan, 21 year old left footed cb originally from Lewisham, 6ft2 so i would guess cover for Akin as to not rely on Deji to play in the league at least

    Source is from Spurs end, also didn't confirm when other than before the window shuts




    Pearce is cover for Akin so bit of a weird one signing another left footed CB.
    Famewo has played on the right I guess, although unless it's just a coincidence he hasn't played anywhere near as well there. I'd definitely be targeting a right footed CB but if a left footed one came up that was too good to turn down I'd understand. 
  • Think there could be something in the Tobi Omole rumour.
  • PFA have challenged the squad limit as they did the salary cap 

    And like the salary cap the smaller league one and two clubs, as EFL members, will probably drag their feet so that it's still in place when the window shuts.

    That way the bigger clubs have less of an advantage.

    It's 25 in the EPL.
  • PFA have challenged the squad limit as they did the salary cap 

    And like the salary cap the smaller league one and two clubs, as EFL members, will probably drag their feet so that it's still in place when the window shuts.

    That way the bigger clubs have less of an advantage.

    It's 25 in the EPL.
    Doesn't the EPL one include goalkeepers though?
  • _MrDick said:
    I have a feeling the next two through the door will be loan signings from Premiership teams. A left back and a creative midfielder, maybe. No inside information, just a hunch. 
    Do they not tend to come towards the end of the window? Last day or two even?
  • PFA have challenged the squad limit as they did the salary cap 

    And like the salary cap the smaller league one and two clubs, as EFL members, will probably drag their feet so that it's still in place when the window shuts.

    That way the bigger clubs have less of an advantage.

    It's 25 in the EPL.
    Doesn't the EPL one include goalkeepers though?
    Don't know, could be.
  • Think there could be something in the Tobi Omole rumour.
    Went to school in Bexleyheath and played for Thamesmead.

    Can play left back too


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