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            Todds_right_hook said:
He ripped a forward playing as a wing back apart. He was pretty quiet for the other 1.5 games when being marked by a proper full back.J BLOCK said:Baah to Donny annoys me. Ripped us apart last season, plays in a position we desperately need.
He made 2 whole accurate crosses all season last year as well. Just what we need.2 - 
            BR7_addick said:
Thank you CL P.CL_Phantom said:BR7_addick said:
Okay so in the interest of balance.golfaddick said:
In retrospect players like Yoni Buyons, JBG, Vetokeke, Teixeira, Bulot & Watt were a damn sight better than Clare & Dobson.ForeverAddickted said:
Grass was always greener on the other side springs to mind.Rothko said:Quiet enjoying the revisionism of the RD eraNow give us a list of key players that Roland sold off for nothing/lower than market value Vs what TS has sold??
Roland outsButton undiscSmith undiscStephens undiscAlnwick freeYann undiscHughes freeCook freeCourt freeevina freeGower freeHolland's freeHamer freeGreen freePritchard freeDevite freePoyet compoWood freeMorrison freeBen haim freeLepoint undiscGomez 3.5 millionChurch freeEagles releasedEtheridge freeOnyewu releasedBikey cancelledWilson releasedWiggins undiscNego freeVaz te freeMoussa freeParzyszeck freeReza releasedMotta releasedPiggott releasedTucudean releasedDimitovic freeCousins undiscGudmundsson undiscPope undiscHenderson freeHarriot undiscBergdich releasedDiarra releasedLookman - 11 millionFoley releasedFox undiscBa releasedChicksen releasedJohnson releasedTexiera undiscCeballos undiscWatt undiscNovak undiscHolmes undiscCrofts releasedKonsa undiscLennon undiscMagennis undiscKashi releasedGrant undiscClarke freeAjose releasedAribo compoBauer freeFosu freeMarshall freeReeves freeParker freeVentokelle freeDijksteel undiscSandgaard outsLockyer freeBonne undisc (2mil)Phillips undiscLapslie undiscDoughty undiscBogle undiscWilliams undiscAmos freeAneke freeMadison releasedDeji releasedOztumer releasedPratley releasedShinnie releasedFor curiosities sake
So those who are going to make silly comparisons between Roland’s 6 years of transfers and TS’s 11 months, at least do it properly rather than half the story that you feel suits your narrative.Roland was an absolute shambles.
You could argue its heading in the same direction based on that, but, really it's a silly argument.
Not only has Roland had far more windows to operate in there wasn't the COVID factor, and even if you disregard that, without knowing what the undisclosed fees are, you just can't compare.
If anything it just shows typical transfer activity. I'm sure if you posted any other club to a similar stature to ours it'll read the same. Players leaving on frees, decent talent sold and a whole bunch of undisclosed.
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Only Lockyer, as at that stage we were in a one out, one in situation, and used the squad space to bring in LevittDazzler21 said:
Lockyer, Phillips & Bonne were gone prior to Sandgaard completing his purchase weren't they?CL_Phantom said:BR7_addick said:
Okay so in the interest of balance.golfaddick said:
In retrospect players like Yoni Buyons, JBG, Vetokeke, Teixeira, Bulot & Watt were a damn sight better than Clare & Dobson.ForeverAddickted said:
Grass was always greener on the other side springs to mind.Rothko said:Quiet enjoying the revisionism of the RD eraNow give us a list of key players that Roland sold off for nothing/lower than market value Vs what TS has sold??
Roland outsButton undiscSmith undiscStephens undiscAlnwick freeYann undiscHughes freeCook freeCourt freeevina freeGower freeHolland's freeHamer freeGreen freePritchard freeDevite freePoyet compoWood freeMorrison freeBen haim freeLepoint undiscGomez 3.5 millionChurch freeEagles releasedEtheridge freeOnyewu releasedBikey cancelledWilson releasedWiggins undiscNego freeVaz te freeMoussa freeParzyszeck freeReza releasedMotta releasedPiggott releasedTucudean releasedDimitovic freeCousins undiscGudmundsson undiscPope undiscHenderson freeHarriot undiscBergdich releasedDiarra releasedLookman - 11 millionFoley releasedFox undiscBa releasedChicksen releasedJohnson releasedTexiera undiscCeballos undiscWatt undiscNovak undiscHolmes undiscCrofts releasedKonsa undiscLennon undiscMagennis undiscKashi releasedGrant undiscClarke freeAjose releasedAribo compoBauer freeFosu freeMarshall freeReeves freeParker freeVentokelle freeDijksteel undiscSandgaard outsLockyer freeBonne undisc (2mil)Phillips undiscLapslie undiscDoughty undiscBogle undiscWilliams undiscAmos freeAneke freeMadison releasedDeji releasedOztumer releasedPratley releasedShinnie releasedFor curiosities sake
 It's curious that under ESI we never sold anyone, despite being broke all summer.
Under Thomas we brought in a few decent fees, for Phillips, Bonne, Doughty plus the Karlan sell on fee which would have helped to offset the losses3 - 
            Braving another suggestion 😂
What about going back in for Tom Lockyer? Doesn’t seem to be getting a look in Luton’s team anymore and think he will be a decent addition and he knows the club very well.8 - 
            
The talent we have is within the U18s from last season, the likes of Deji, Henry, Beadle etc, rather than further up the age groupcs1986 said:
Right now we have Deji who appears a talent. Of course our academy is excellent but right now none of them are worth a fiver. Maybe 2 or 3 years down the line we have another excellent batch that could be sold either well or on the cheap. Only then could you see of TS is similar.BR7_addick said:
How do you know, Doughty was on loan at Bromley till he come back due to injuries and his life changed almost over night. And even if we haven’t currently got a Gomez/Lookman/Doughty we know full well we’ll have one soon, our academy is very good.cs1986 said:
We don't have any young talent worth much?BR7_addick said:
But TS hasn’t happened yet, unless you’ve evidence to suggest he’s secretly planning on selling every piece of young talent we have for a quick buck to cover losses way under market value?SELR_addicks said:
But Sandgaard in terms of players sold/released after 1 year is on par to match Roland's numbers in 6.BR7_addick said:
Thank you CL P.CL_Phantom said:BR7_addick said:
Okay so in the interest of balance.golfaddick said:
In retrospect players like Yoni Buyons, JBG, Vetokeke, Teixeira, Bulot & Watt were a damn sight better than Clare & Dobson.ForeverAddickted said:
Grass was always greener on the other side springs to mind.Rothko said:Quiet enjoying the revisionism of the RD eraNow give us a list of key players that Roland sold off for nothing/lower than market value Vs what TS has sold??
Roland outsButton undiscSmith undiscStephens undiscAlnwick freeYann undiscHughes freeCook freeCourt freeevina freeGower freeHolland's freeHamer freeGreen freePritchard freeDevite freePoyet compoWood freeMorrison freeBen haim freeLepoint undiscGomez 3.5 millionChurch freeEagles releasedEtheridge freeOnyewu releasedBikey cancelledWilson releasedWiggins undiscNego freeVaz te freeMoussa freeParzyszeck freeReza releasedMotta releasedPiggott releasedTucudean releasedDimitovic freeCousins undiscGudmundsson undiscPope undiscHenderson freeHarriot undiscBergdich releasedDiarra releasedLookman - 11 millionFoley releasedFox undiscBa releasedChicksen releasedJohnson releasedTexiera undiscCeballos undiscWatt undiscNovak undiscHolmes undiscCrofts releasedKonsa undiscLennon undiscMagennis undiscKashi releasedGrant undiscClarke freeAjose releasedAribo compoBauer freeFosu freeMarshall freeReeves freeParker freeVentokelle freeDijksteel undiscSandgaard outsLockyer freeBonne undisc (2mil)Phillips undiscLapslie undiscDoughty undiscBogle undiscWilliams undiscAmos freeAneke freeMadison releasedDeji releasedOztumer releasedPratley releasedShinnie releasedFor curiosities sake
So those who are going to make silly comparisons between Roland’s 6 years of transfers and TS’s 11 months, at least do it properly rather than half the story that you feel suits your narrative.Roland was an absolute shambles.3 - 
            
We’re we slow to react on Baah? Or just saw he scored 3 in 21. Twice against us and largely fuck all else.addick1956 said:
Slow again....Leeds_Addick said:
Really can’t understand why we wouldn’t be in for him. Proven at this level and in a position we need options for.I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:Baah Signing for DonnyWe are looking for players to get us out of the division as opposed to a punt on someone who might come good5 - 
            
Too short for a CB IMO.SouthLondonisRed said:Braving another suggestion 😂
What about going back in for Tom Lockyer? Doesn’t seem to be getting a look in Luton’s team anymore and think he will be a decent addition and he knows the club very well.0 - 
            
He has been injured. Just making a comebackSouthLondonisRed said:Braving another suggestion 😂
What about going back in for Tom Lockyer? Doesn’t seem to be getting a look in Luton’s team anymore and think he will be a decent addition and he knows the club very well.0 - 
            
I liked Lockyer a lot but defence definitely ain't a problem right now. Attackers!!!SouthLondonisRed said:Braving another suggestion 😂
What about going back in for Tom Lockyer? Doesn’t seem to be getting a look in Luton’s team anymore and think he will be a decent addition and he knows the club very well.0 - 
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Baah humbug!I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:Baah Signing for Donny1 - 
            
I'd have Lockyer back in a flash, and he'd be too good for this league definitely. That said, I don't think he'd step down to L1 again, it'd be big wages for us too and currently Innis + Famewo are our main pairing CBs, I don't think we'd want to spunk big wages on Lockyer as a back-up CB (I know Inniss will inevitably get injured)SouthLondonisRed said:Braving another suggestion 😂
What about going back in for Tom Lockyer? Doesn’t seem to be getting a look in Luton’s team anymore and think he will be a decent addition and he knows the club very well.2 - 
            How are we not picking up players like Baah? He’s from the area, surely we’d be interested. Missing out on so many good players, somethings not right!0
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Yeah completely agree. Aaron Henry looks a talent - 2 or 3 years away? Or am i being harsh?killerandflash said:
The talent we have is within the U18s from last season, the likes of Deji, Henry, Beadle etc, rather than further up the age groupcs1986 said:
Right now we have Deji who appears a talent. Of course our academy is excellent but right now none of them are worth a fiver. Maybe 2 or 3 years down the line we have another excellent batch that could be sold either well or on the cheap. Only then could you see of TS is similar.BR7_addick said:
How do you know, Doughty was on loan at Bromley till he come back due to injuries and his life changed almost over night. And even if we haven’t currently got a Gomez/Lookman/Doughty we know full well we’ll have one soon, our academy is very good.cs1986 said:
We don't have any young talent worth much?BR7_addick said:
But TS hasn’t happened yet, unless you’ve evidence to suggest he’s secretly planning on selling every piece of young talent we have for a quick buck to cover losses way under market value?SELR_addicks said:
But Sandgaard in terms of players sold/released after 1 year is on par to match Roland's numbers in 6.BR7_addick said:
Thank you CL P.CL_Phantom said:BR7_addick said:
Okay so in the interest of balance.golfaddick said:
In retrospect players like Yoni Buyons, JBG, Vetokeke, Teixeira, Bulot & Watt were a damn sight better than Clare & Dobson.ForeverAddickted said:
Grass was always greener on the other side springs to mind.Rothko said:Quiet enjoying the revisionism of the RD eraNow give us a list of key players that Roland sold off for nothing/lower than market value Vs what TS has sold??
Roland outsButton undiscSmith undiscStephens undiscAlnwick freeYann undiscHughes freeCook freeCourt freeevina freeGower freeHolland's freeHamer freeGreen freePritchard freeDevite freePoyet compoWood freeMorrison freeBen haim freeLepoint undiscGomez 3.5 millionChurch freeEagles releasedEtheridge freeOnyewu releasedBikey cancelledWilson releasedWiggins undiscNego freeVaz te freeMoussa freeParzyszeck freeReza releasedMotta releasedPiggott releasedTucudean releasedDimitovic freeCousins undiscGudmundsson undiscPope undiscHenderson freeHarriot undiscBergdich releasedDiarra releasedLookman - 11 millionFoley releasedFox undiscBa releasedChicksen releasedJohnson releasedTexiera undiscCeballos undiscWatt undiscNovak undiscHolmes undiscCrofts releasedKonsa undiscLennon undiscMagennis undiscKashi releasedGrant undiscClarke freeAjose releasedAribo compoBauer freeFosu freeMarshall freeReeves freeParker freeVentokelle freeDijksteel undiscSandgaard outsLockyer freeBonne undisc (2mil)Phillips undiscLapslie undiscDoughty undiscBogle undiscWilliams undiscAmos freeAneke freeMadison releasedDeji releasedOztumer releasedPratley releasedShinnie releasedFor curiosities sake
So those who are going to make silly comparisons between Roland’s 6 years of transfers and TS’s 11 months, at least do it properly rather than half the story that you feel suits your narrative.Roland was an absolute shambles.0 - 
            
Amongst our 7 or so players we need another RCB option - and he would be a good one.cs1986 said:
I liked Lockyer a lot but defence definitely ain't a problem right now. Attackers!!!SouthLondonisRed said:Braving another suggestion 😂
What about going back in for Tom Lockyer? Doesn’t seem to be getting a look in Luton’s team anymore and think he will be a decent addition and he knows the club very well.
Other than a LB - the other 5 absolutely fit into holes further up the pitch.2 - 
            
But done nothing against us up there ..J BLOCK said:Baah to Donny annoys me. Ripped us apart last season, plays in a position we desperately need.0 - 
            Says a lot about Baah that he's gone from being off to City to ending up in Doncaster
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If we don’t sign cover for Innis plus a left back we’ll be in bother at some point this season.cs1986 said:
I liked Lockyer a lot but defence definitely ain't a problem right now. Attackers!!!SouthLondonisRed said:Braving another suggestion 😂
What about going back in for Tom Lockyer? Doesn’t seem to be getting a look in Luton’s team anymore and think he will be a decent addition and he knows the club very well.3 - 
            If our strategy really is to bide our time & wait for player demands to reduce as they get more desperate to sign a deal as the transfer deadline draws closer, it's a dangerous strategy.
We could be very busy on transfer deadline week. Alternatively, it could all go tits up & we could be left desperately short of numbers.
Time will tell!!3 - 
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A couple of inches taller than Barker who some on here fancy as a CBJac_52 said:
Too short for a CB IMO.SouthLondonisRed said:Braving another suggestion 😂
What about going back in for Tom Lockyer? Doesn’t seem to be getting a look in Luton’s team anymore and think he will be a decent addition and he knows the club very well.1 - 
            Lockyer is not what we need. Too short for a centre back, positionally weak (and not quick enough to make up for it) and his passing was woeful.If a defender makes as many last ditch tackles as he did you have to question his positioning in the first place4
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There’s a reason Barker is behind Elewere. He only played last season because u23s weren’t eligible because of the squad rules.blackpool72 said:
A couple of inches taller than Barker who some on here fancy as a CBJac_52 said:
Too short for a CB IMO.SouthLondonisRed said:Braving another suggestion 😂
What about going back in for Tom Lockyer? Doesn’t seem to be getting a look in Luton’s team anymore and think he will be a decent addition and he knows the club very well.3 - 
            A post on the other forum, supposedly from TS on LinkedIn
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Who wouldn't get annoyed by the same question all the time. Nigel knows I'm not changing my strategy one bit because of a few stupid journalists and social media.
There is so much going on behind the scenes that just can not be taken public. No one knows how many people are working on recruiting day and night all summer until deadline day.”1 - 
            
Stevie Nicks, cancels some gigs that is a rumour I have heard.
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If that has been said then they’d be a screenshot so I’ll take it with a pinch of salt until we see one.sammy391 said:A post on the other forum, supposedly from TS on LinkedIn
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Who wouldn't get annoyed by the same question all the time. Nigel knows I'm not changing my strategy one bit because of a few stupid journalists and social media.
There is so much going on behind the scenes that just can not be taken public. No one knows how many people are working on recruiting day and night all summer until deadline day.”9 - 
            
Pretty much every thread on Charlton Life at the moment. Glad I took a break to catch up!3 - 
            
Who are the stupid journalistssammy391 said:A post on the other forum, supposedly from TS on LinkedIn
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Who wouldn't get annoyed by the same question all the time. Nigel knows I'm not changing my strategy one bit because of a few stupid journalists and social media.
There is so much going on behind the scenes that just can not be taken public. No one knows how many people are working on recruiting day and night all summer until deadline day.”2 - 
            Shrewsbury looking at Cosgrove on loan1
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            Baah the classic "played well against us so must be a world beater ignoring all evidence which may suggest otherwise" player.8
 
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