Grass was always greener on the other side springs to mind.
In retrospect players like Yoni Buyons, JBG, Vetokeke, Teixeira, Bulot & Watt were a damn sight better than Clare & Dobson.
Which of those were signed in league one?
Taylor, Cullen, Bielik, Williams…. Even Jamie Ward and Billy Clarke
They weren't on his list? Point being, he's comparing two signing in one league one window to a series of signing made in the championship.
As for the players you've just listed.
Cullen and Bielik were loans
Taylor was a great signing on a free.
Williams is shit.
I’d still have Williams back like a shot . We are desperate for some creativity in this current midfield.
The funny thing is alot of last season's squad players would get in our team now.
Shinnie & Maddison are arguably better / more creative than what we have in their positions today.
Even Paul Smyth would be a better option as a backup wide attacking player than what we currently have as backup to Washington and DJ, the likes of Clayden and Ghandour.
Said it before that I thought the rebuild would need to take a few windows. Build a real quality first eleven and decent alternatives. Much prefer signing two really good players each window and getting there over three windows. Fill in gaps with loans until the quality is reached.
By the time you've built your squad though, some of the better signings would already have been poached
Say DJ has a storming season as we finish 8th. Next summer there'll be interested from Championship clubs, not least the newly promoted ones from L1.
Modern football doesn't allow much time to build sides
Hear you but. If as you say DJ has a storming season then if you have to sell you sell from a position of strength a get 2 million pounds. Invest that in the team with two 1 million pound players. Getting out of this division is very difficult. We won’t do it with average to just above average players. There will be eight teams like that.
But who have we signed with the potential of a big transfer fee next summer? McG, Dobson and Clare are all solid L1 players, but none strike me as the sort of starlets that we could sell for a fat fee next summer if necessary, especially as all 3 are only on 2 year deals anyway, so will have just 1 year left next summer
That’s my point. We’re buying players that are just above or even average. We need two or at least one top player every window. Certainly get players like Clare and Dobson in but players that get you promoted are going to cost. Hard fact of life.
Just because Golfie is bigging up Roland... Here's his first three years ins and outs for the first team squad - because I got bored. It seems having loads of players doesn't guarantee success at all!
Cannot believe the number of unhappy people on here. We are in my opinion in a much better position than we have been for years. A engaged and enthusiastic owner who I don’t think anyone can argue against is laying solid foundations for the club to improve
A experienced and successful manager with a good back room staff.
I think we have made excellent acquisitions for this level so far and every confidence there will be more before the window shuts
Good academy players coming through who may not be ready to play a significant part in the first team yet but the future looks bright
And yet after a perfectly acceptable first league game and I agree a poor cup performance people are looking at relegation odds having a pop at the owner and manager writing off the new signings and the academy players and generally going into meltdown
I am not saying we will blow through this league but am confident we will be in the promotion picture at the end of the season
Think Kirk is still pretty much done. Obviously the kid needs time to grieve.
Was he there last night? In the match thread I made reference to a new player in the directors box, there was a blonde lad back left shaking hands etc looked as though he was being shown around. Probably nothing especially given his current circumstances but it caught my eye nonetheless.
Could be related to length of contract remaining. So in January he had over a year left (or over 2 years left, or whatever), so the release was £500k, now that we've passed June 30th, we're into the last year (or last 2 years, or whatever) and the release clause has dropped to £400k.
From the little I know that isn't that uncommon, for release clauses to scale depending on the length of contract remaining.
Just because Golfie is bigging up Roland... Here's his first three years ins and outs for the first team squad - because I got bored. It seems having loads of players doesn't guarantee success at all!
Think Kirk is still pretty much done. Obviously the kid needs time to grieve.
Do you think there was no truth in him being linked to Sheff Utd?
I don't have an insider info, but it's gone very quiet on all that since Kirk's dad died. If you were his agent just putting stories out there to try and get more money out of the deal it makes sense that you'd stop all that bastardry when your client suffers a loss as it's pretty inappropriate. As I say though, no actual info on it and it assumes that agents are people
Think Kirk is still pretty much done. Obviously the kid needs time to grieve.
Do you think there was no truth in him being linked to Sheff Utd?
In my opinion I don’t think Sheffield united were ever in for him. I think the delay was and is solely down to the awful fact his father has passed away.
Something like that could easily make him think he would rather stay with his family and move on next year instead, however the noises I’m hearing are suggesting he will still press on with the deal. Understandably he will want to take time to grieve and support his family before making that decision.
Just because Golfie is bigging up Roland... Here's his first three years ins and outs for the first team squad - because I got bored. It seems having loads of players doesn't guarantee success at all!
Would Crewe let both Dale and Kirk go in the same window?
They might have no choice other than to do so be it because of their financial position and making the most of their assets or because both players want to leave
Think Kirk is still pretty much done. Obviously the kid needs time to grieve.
Do you think there was no truth in him being linked to Sheff Utd?
In my opinion I don’t think Sheffield united were ever in for him. I think the delay was and is solely down to the awful fact his father has passed away.
Something like that could easily make him think he would rather stay with his family and move on next year instead, however the noises I’m hearing are suggesting he will still press on with the deal. Understandably he will want to take time to grieve and support his family before making that decision.
I wonder what the rules are in that regard? Like, if a deal is agreed and signed between all the relevant parties (both clubs and the player) but for whatever reason there is a hold up on the actual physical move.
Like, what in other businesses would be compassionate leave or whatever, could we do the deal now but he doesn't necessarily join us in person yet.
Grass was always greener on the other side springs to mind.
In retrospect players like Yoni Buyons, JBG, Vetokeke, Teixeira, Bulot & Watt were a damn sight better than Clare & Dobson.
Okay so in the interest of balance.
Now give us a list of key players that Roland sold off for nothing/lower than market value Vs what TS has sold??
Roland outs
Button undisc
Smith undisc
Stephens undisc
Alnwick free
Yann undisc
Hughes free
Cook free
Court free
evina free
Gower free
Holland's free
Hamer free
Green free
Pritchard free
Devite free
Poyet compo
Wood free
Morrison free
Ben haim free
Lepoint undisc
Gomez 3.5 million
Church free
Eagles released
Etheridge free
Onyewu released
Bikey cancelled
Wilson released
Wiggins undisc
Nego free
Vaz te free
Moussa free
Parzyszeck free
Reza released
Motta released
Piggott released
Tucudean released
Dimitovic free
Cousins undisc
Gudmundsson undisc
Pope undisc
Henderson free
Harriot undisc
Bergdich released
Diarra released
Lookman - 11 million
Foley released
Fox undisc
Ba released
Chicksen released
Johnson released
Texiera undisc
Ceballos undisc
Watt undisc
Novak undisc
Holmes undisc
Crofts released
Konsa undisc
Lennon undisc
Magennis undisc
Kashi released
Grant undisc
Clarke free
Ajose released
Aribo compo
Bauer free
Fosu free
Marshall free
Reeves free
Parker free
Ventokelle free
Dijksteel undisc
Sandgaard outs
Lockyer free
Bonne undisc (2mil)
Phillips undisc
Lapslie undisc
Doughty undisc
Bogle undisc
Williams undisc
Amos free
Aneke free
Madison released
Deji released
Oztumer released
Pratley released
Shinnie released
For curiosities sake
Thank you CL P.
So those who are going to make silly comparisons between Roland’s 6 years of transfers and TS’s 11 months, at least do it properly rather than half the story that you feel suits your narrative.
Grass was always greener on the other side springs to mind.
In retrospect players like Yoni Buyons, JBG, Vetokeke, Teixeira, Bulot & Watt were a damn sight better than Clare & Dobson.
Okay so in the interest of balance.
Now give us a list of key players that Roland sold off for nothing/lower than market value Vs what TS has sold??
Roland outs
Button undisc
Smith undisc
Stephens undisc
Alnwick free
Yann undisc
Hughes free
Cook free
Court free
evina free
Gower free
Holland's free
Hamer free
Green free
Pritchard free
Devite free
Poyet compo
Wood free
Morrison free
Ben haim free
Lepoint undisc
Gomez 3.5 million
Church free
Eagles released
Etheridge free
Onyewu released
Bikey cancelled
Wilson released
Wiggins undisc
Nego free
Vaz te free
Moussa free
Parzyszeck free
Reza released
Motta released
Piggott released
Tucudean released
Dimitovic free
Cousins undisc
Gudmundsson undisc
Pope undisc
Henderson free
Harriot undisc
Bergdich released
Diarra released
Lookman - 11 million
Foley released
Fox undisc
Ba released
Chicksen released
Johnson released
Texiera undisc
Ceballos undisc
Watt undisc
Novak undisc
Holmes undisc
Crofts released
Konsa undisc
Lennon undisc
Magennis undisc
Kashi released
Grant undisc
Clarke free
Ajose released
Aribo compo
Bauer free
Fosu free
Marshall free
Reeves free
Parker free
Ventokelle free
Dijksteel undisc
Sandgaard outs
Lockyer free
Bonne undisc (2mil)
Phillips undisc
Lapslie undisc
Doughty undisc
Bogle undisc
Williams undisc
Amos free
Aneke free
Madison released
Deji released
Oztumer released
Pratley released
Shinnie released
For curiosities sake
Thank you CL P.
So those who are going to make silly comparisons between Roland’s 6 years of transfers and TS’s 11 months, at least do it properly rather than half the story that you feel suits your narrative.
Roland was an absolute shambles.
But Sandgaard in terms of players sold/released after 1 year is on par to match Roland's numbers in 6.
Would Crewe let both Dale and Kirk go in the same window?
I assume neither will sign new deals so you’d hope they’d take £500k for each, that’s not an insignificant amount at this level especially if you need the money.
Think Kirk is still pretty much done. Obviously the kid needs time to grieve.
Do you think there was no truth in him being linked to Sheff Utd?
In my opinion I don’t think Sheffield united were ever in for him. I think the delay was and is solely down to the awful fact his father has passed away.
Something like that could easily make him think he would rather stay with his family and move on next year instead, however the noises I’m hearing are suggesting he will still press on with the deal. Understandably he will want to take time to grieve and support his family before making that decision.
Very sad circumstances for the lad but it sounds like no deal has been signed and not sure on whether it was a long time illness or the amount of Siblings the lad has or even where his Mother lives. Some people need to carrying on working and mourn at a later date. We are all different with our reactions to death in the family and how and when we grief.
Cafc would give Charlie Kirk a supportive arm around the shoulder with the wonderful Tracey and the decent staff we have working in coaching and I'm certain every player at Cafc including Jayden Stockley who comes across as a JJ type caring captain.
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A experienced and successful manager with a good back room staff.
I think we have made excellent acquisitions for this level so far and every confidence there will be more before the window shuts
Good academy players coming through who may not be ready to play a significant part in the first team yet but the future looks bright
And yet after a perfectly acceptable first league game and I agree a poor cup performance people are looking at relegation odds having a pop at the owner and manager writing off the new signings and the academy players and generally going into meltdown
I am not saying we will blow through this league but am confident we will be in the promotion picture at the end of the season
come on people less negatively on here COYR
From the little I know that isn't that uncommon, for release clauses to scale depending on the length of contract remaining.
Roland outs
Something like that could easily make him think he would rather stay with his family and move on next year instead, however the noises I’m hearing are suggesting he will still press on with the deal. Understandably he will want to take time to grieve and support his family before making that decision.
Like, what in other businesses would be compassionate leave or whatever, could we do the deal now but he doesn't necessarily join us in person yet.
So those who are going to make silly comparisons between Roland’s 6 years of transfers and TS’s 11 months, at least do it properly rather than half the story that you feel suits your narrative.
How are Crewe doing financially?
It will be interesting to see where Lowery ends up. He can be a v.good & creative centre mid but doesn't have alot of goals in his locker.