I feel the Nige is on a hiding to nothing when it comes to the fans perspective, he must feel like the fall guy, which to some extent I agree he is, but at the same time the poor relation when you include Ged, Steve, and ultimately Thomas, agree we are very light at the moment but Nige saying "things are progressing" is in all reality where he sees it, frustration all round really both for him and us. I am sure we will see some incomings soon, both perm and the expected loans, and this must start before Saturday, because if not we are potentially in shite street and going backwards.
It really sums up the absolute chaos at Charlton that I was just now forced to physically walk to The Valley to check it hadn't in fact been turned into a monster truck arena
Said it before that I thought the rebuild would need to take a few windows. Build a real quality first eleven and decent alternatives. Much prefer signing two really good players each window and getting there over three windows. Fill in gaps with loans until the quality is reached.
By the time you've built your squad though, some of the better signings would already have been poached
Say DJ has a storming season as we finish 8th. Next summer there'll be interested from Championship clubs, not least the newly promoted ones from L1.
Modern football doesn't allow much time to build sides
Hear you but. If as you say DJ has a storming season then if you have to sell you sell from a position of strength a get 2 million pounds. Invest that in the team with two 1 million pound players. Getting out of this division is very difficult. We won’t do it with average to just above average players. There will be eight teams like that.
1. Adkins suggests the kind of players he needs, gives the requirements of what they MUST have and probably even names some that do the job of such players. 2. Gallen goes out, taps up contacts and uses his relationships to find players that match Adkins requirements - Comes back to Adkins to check suitability 3. When NA & SG are happy I'd hope it was straight to Sandgaard, but I fear this is where Roddy steps in. I don't get what he does, but he basically has to also ratify the signing before it can get to Sandgaard. Maybe he's acting as some sort of buffer to ensure we don't put forward signings over a certain price that don't add enough resale value etc? 4. When it gets to Sandgaard I would assume the case is put forward on what the player brings, what their resale potential might be, how much we might need to spend to get them and whether they may or may not be able to make the step up.
Alternative The other thing that may occur is you roll up the meetings where Gallen comes back to a 4-way between Adkins, Gallen, Roddy & Sandgaard and they thrash it out whilst chugging Monster's and listening to rap metal.
In my experience, this is how it should work.
1. Owner (TS) sets the budget (transfer fee and wages) 2. Manager (NA) tells head of recruitment (SG) who/what he wants. 3. Head of recruitment draws up a shortlist 4. Manager reviews shortlist and selects those he wants to pursue. 5. Head of recruitment asks current club for permission to talk to player (yes, I know!!). 6. If player is interested the CEO (we don't have one but it could be Roddy in this instance) negotiates with player/club/agent within the confines of the budgets set in 1) above. 7. If agreement (within budget) is reached then player signs). 8. If agreement cannot be reached but manager wants to pursue further then CEO discusses budget with owner. If it can be increased then repeat 6) and 7). 9. If no agreement reached within an acceptable budget then all parties move on.
For us point 6 may be the issue.
Unless things have changed Gallen does the negotiating?
Gallen always done and still is the person who talks to players and agents
A fair assumption that anyone might make, yet you post it with an air of ‘I know for certain’ that he does, trying to make yourself look like you personally have knowledge of this. To have as much knowledge about the inner workings of the club you would have to be in almost daily contact with a very senior member of staff who would be ‘strangely willing’ to pass on all this ‘so called’ information you profess to have, and that just isn’t the case, as you (and all of us), know only too well. You post so much guff that occasionally, by sheer weight of numbers, you will come up with something that turns out to be correct. Which you are never backward in letting everyone know about, whilst at the same time all the crap you post is soon forgotten by your good self, with never so much as an admission, let alone an apology. Add to this you are possibly the most thick skinned individual on the planet……shown to be Pinocchio personified and given to outlandish romanticism over and over again……anyone else would crawl away in shame but not you, you immediately start thinking up the next pile of crap to come out with.
There’s no doubt a medical word for someone like you, but I have no idea what it is. And yes……I did get out of bed the wrong side this morning.🤨
1. Adkins suggests the kind of players he needs, gives the requirements of what they MUST have and probably even names some that do the job of such players. 2. Gallen goes out, taps up contacts and uses his relationships to find players that match Adkins requirements - Comes back to Adkins to check suitability 3. When NA & SG are happy I'd hope it was straight to Sandgaard, but I fear this is where Roddy steps in. I don't get what he does, but he basically has to also ratify the signing before it can get to Sandgaard. Maybe he's acting as some sort of buffer to ensure we don't put forward signings over a certain price that don't add enough resale value etc? 4. When it gets to Sandgaard I would assume the case is put forward on what the player brings, what their resale potential might be, how much we might need to spend to get them and whether they may or may not be able to make the step up.
Alternative The other thing that may occur is you roll up the meetings where Gallen comes back to a 4-way between Adkins, Gallen, Roddy & Sandgaard and they thrash it out whilst chugging Monster's and listening to rap metal.
In my experience, this is how it should work.
1. Owner (TS) sets the budget (transfer fee and wages) 2. Manager (NA) tells head of recruitment (SG) who/what he wants. 3. Head of recruitment draws up a shortlist 4. Manager reviews shortlist and selects those he wants to pursue. 5. Head of recruitment asks current club for permission to talk to player (yes, I know!!). 6. If player is interested the CEO (we don't have one but it could be Roddy in this instance) negotiates with player/club/agent within the confines of the budgets set in 1) above. 7. If agreement (within budget) is reached then player signs). 8. If agreement cannot be reached but manager wants to pursue further then CEO discusses budget with owner. If it can be increased then repeat 6) and 7). 9. If no agreement reached within an acceptable budget then all parties move on.
For us point 6 may be the issue.
Unless things have changed Gallen does the negotiating?
Gallen always done and still is the person who talks to players and agents
A fair assumption that anyone might make, yet you post it with an air of ‘I know for certain’ that he does, trying to make yourself look like you personally have knowledge of this. To have as much knowledge about the inner workings of the club you would have to be in almost daily contact with a very senior member of staff who would be ‘strangely willing’ to pass on all this ‘so called’ information you profess to have, and that just isn’t the case, as you (and all of us), know only too well. You post so much guff that occasionally, by sheer weight of numbers, you will come up with something that turns out to be correct. Which you are never backward in letting everyone know about, whilst at the same time all the crap you post is soon forgotten by your good self, with never so much as an admission, let alone an apology. Add to this you are possibly the most thick skinned individual on the planet……shown to be Pinocchio personified and given to outlandish romanticism over and over again……anyone else would crawl away in shame but not you, you immediately start thinking up the next pile of crap to come out with.
There’s no doubt a medical word for someone like you, but I have no idea what it is. And yes……I did get out of bed the wrong side this morning.🤨
I think this is the nicest and most eloquent thing that anyone has ever written about @RonnieMoore
Said it before that I thought the rebuild would need to take a few windows. Build a real quality first eleven and decent alternatives. Much prefer signing two really good players each window and getting there over three windows. Fill in gaps with loans until the quality is reached.
By the time you've built your squad though, some of the better signings would already have been poached
Say DJ has a storming season as we finish 8th. Next summer there'll be interested from Championship clubs, not least the newly promoted ones from L1.
Modern football doesn't allow much time to build sides
Hear you but. If as you say DJ has a storming season then if you have to sell you sell from a position of strength a get 2 million pounds. Invest that in the team with two 1 million pound players. Getting out of this division is very difficult. We won’t do it with average to just above average players. There will be eight teams like that.
But who have we signed with the potential of a big transfer fee next summer? McG, Dobson and Clare are all solid L1 players, but none strike me as the sort of starlets that we could sell for a fat fee next summer if necessary, especially as all 3 are only on 2 year deals anyway, so will have just 1 year left next summer
1. Adkins suggests the kind of players he needs, gives the requirements of what they MUST have and probably even names some that do the job of such players. 2. Gallen goes out, taps up contacts and uses his relationships to find players that match Adkins requirements - Comes back to Adkins to check suitability 3. When NA & SG are happy I'd hope it was straight to Sandgaard, but I fear this is where Roddy steps in. I don't get what he does, but he basically has to also ratify the signing before it can get to Sandgaard. Maybe he's acting as some sort of buffer to ensure we don't put forward signings over a certain price that don't add enough resale value etc? 4. When it gets to Sandgaard I would assume the case is put forward on what the player brings, what their resale potential might be, how much we might need to spend to get them and whether they may or may not be able to make the step up.
Alternative The other thing that may occur is you roll up the meetings where Gallen comes back to a 4-way between Adkins, Gallen, Roddy & Sandgaard and they thrash it out whilst chugging Monster's and listening to rap metal.
In my experience, this is how it should work.
1. Owner (TS) sets the budget (transfer fee and wages) 2. Manager (NA) tells head of recruitment (SG) who/what he wants. 3. Head of recruitment draws up a shortlist 4. Manager reviews shortlist and selects those he wants to pursue. 5. Head of recruitment asks current club for permission to talk to player (yes, I know!!). 6. If player is interested the CEO (we don't have one but it could be Roddy in this instance) negotiates with player/club/agent within the confines of the budgets set in 1) above. 7. If agreement (within budget) is reached then player signs). 8. If agreement cannot be reached but manager wants to pursue further then CEO discusses budget with owner. If it can be increased then repeat 6) and 7). 9. If no agreement reached within an acceptable budget then all parties move on.
For us point 6 may be the issue.
Unless things have changed Gallen does the negotiating?
Gallen always done and still is the person who talks to players and agents
A fair assumption that anyone might make, yet you post it with an air of ‘I know for certain’ that he does, trying to make yourself look like you personally have knowledge of this. To have as much knowledge about the inner workings of the club you would have to be in almost daily contact with a very senior member of staff who would be ‘strangely willing’ to pass on all this ‘so called’ information you profess to have, and that just isn’t the case, as you (and all of us), know only too well. You post so much guff that occasionally, by sheer weight of numbers, you will come up with something that turns out to be correct. Which you are never backward in letting everyone know about, whilst at the same time all the crap you post is soon forgotten by your good self, with never so much as an admission, let alone an apology. Add to this you are possibly the most thick skinned individual on the planet……shown to be Pinocchio personified and given to outlandish romanticism over and over again……anyone else would crawl away in shame but not you, you immediately start thinking up the next pile of crap to come out with.
There’s no doubt a medical word for someone like you, but I have no idea what it is. And yes……I did get out of bed the wrong side this morning.🤨
It really sums up the absolute chaos at Charlton that I was just now forced to physically walk to The Valley to check it hadn't in fact been turned into a monster truck arena
Just because Golfie is bigging up Roland... Here's his first three years ins and outs for the first team squad - because I got bored. It seems having loads of players doesn't guarantee success at all!
The official Twitter account is quiet this morning, usually they are reminding us about something ticket related (or similar) so why are they silent? Busy working towards an announcement, nothing to tell us or promote today or just fed up with all the obvious replies every tweet gets?
Just because Golfie is bigging up Roland... Here's his first three years ins and outs for the first team squad - because I got bored. It seems having loads of players doesn't guarantee success at all!
The official Twitter account is quiet this morning, usually they are reminding us about something ticket related (or similar) so why are they silent? Busy working towards an announcement, nothing to tell us or promote today or just fed up with all the obvious replies every tweet gets?
Probably got the day off after the game last night
Alex Ferguson was a bully who banned Reporters who asked questions he didn't like at Man United press conferences. He was such a powerful and successful manager he could treat reporters with total disdain who didn't brown nose him.
@LouisMend this shouldn't happen to you (yet !) but well done with the questions you put to Nigel, because I'm a fan of transparency where possible. Nigel Adkins is a good guy who is frustrated with many things during this whole transfer window. But the questions have to be asked by Journalists because that is what the readers of papers/on line want to know.
Obviously during negotiations, silence can be golden but the "pathway to the first team" has changed the narrative from Adkins and Thomas Sandgaard has also curbed his "blow League 1 out of the water"
In many ways the 5 year plan should've been to establish our selves as a Championship team.
Rumour created by Sam: With Purrington our only natural LB, we could do worse than give Charlie Daniels a one year contact if he hasn't signed for anyone. Assuming he is fit ?
Would prefer a younger fitter overlapping Left attacking full back who can defend better than Ruud van Maatsen. This would help Washington to get closer to Stockley as having two right footed players on the left in Gunter and Conor totally negated our attacking ambitions on Saturday and is easy to defend against with a clued up defense.
Think Kirk is still pretty much done. Obviously the kid needs time to grieve.
Was he there last night? In the match thread I made reference to a new player in the directors box, there was a blonde lad back left shaking hands etc looked as though he was being shown around. Probably nothing especially given his current circumstances but it caught my eye nonetheless.
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I am sure we will see some incomings soon, both perm and the expected loans, and this must start before Saturday, because if not we are potentially in shite street and going backwards.
Accrington - 6
AFC Wimbledon - 7
Bolton - 5
Burton - 15
Cambridge - 6
Charlton - 22
Cheltenham - 2
Crewe - 12
Doncaster - 5
Fleetwood - 9
Gillingham - 16
Ipswich - 2
Lincoln - 15
MK Dons - 13
Morecambe - 1
Oxford - 10
Plymouth - 13
Portsmouth - 1
Rotherham - 1
Sheff Wed - 1
Shrewsbury - 14
Sunderland - 26
Wigan - 2
Wycombe - 7
Oh dear.
Signed 20/7.
https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/60f60a8334f83/done-deal-energetic-midfielder-sean-clare-signs-for-charlton
To have as much knowledge about the inner workings of the club you would have to be in almost daily contact with a very senior member of staff who would be ‘strangely willing’ to pass on all this ‘so called’ information you profess to have, and that just isn’t the case, as you (and all of us), know only too well.
You post so much guff that occasionally, by sheer weight of numbers, you will come up with something that turns out to be correct. Which you are never backward in letting everyone know about, whilst at the same time all the crap you post is soon forgotten by your good self, with never so much as an admission, let alone an apology.
Add to this you are possibly the most thick skinned individual on the planet……shown to be Pinocchio personified and given to outlandish romanticism over and over again……anyone else would crawl away in shame but not you, you immediately start thinking up the next pile of crap to come out with.
And yes……I did get out of bed the wrong side this morning.🤨
He was such a powerful and successful manager he could treat reporters with total disdain who didn't brown nose him.
@LouisMend this shouldn't happen to you (yet !) but well done with the questions you put to Nigel, because I'm a fan of transparency where possible. Nigel Adkins is a good guy who is frustrated with many things during this whole transfer window.
But the questions have to be asked by Journalists because that is what the readers of papers/on line want to know.
Obviously during negotiations, silence can be golden but the "pathway to the first team" has changed the narrative from Adkins and Thomas Sandgaard has also curbed his "blow League 1 out of the water"
In many ways the 5 year plan should've been to establish our selves as a Championship team.
Rumour created by Sam:
With Purrington our only natural LB, we could do worse than give Charlie Daniels a one year contact if he hasn't signed for anyone. Assuming he is fit ?
Would prefer a younger fitter overlapping Left attacking full back who can defend better than Ruud van Maatsen. This would help Washington to get closer to Stockley as having two right footed players on the left in Gunter and Conor totally negated our attacking ambitions on Saturday and is easy to defend against with a clued up defense.
We've had 1 shot on target
One shot on target
We've had one shot on target
Shinnie & Maddison are arguably better / more creative than what we have in their positions today.