Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)

Pleased we're not signing Gomes.

charlton_hero said:

Think LW was a real weakspot today, Washington went missing at times. We definitely need 4-6 players, 4 minimum. 

Hmm, it's moments like this I wish we had access to match stats - as though he may not been super creative when he got the ball in attacking positions - he popped up everywhere and was a big reason Wednesday never created anything of note. 

I'd say 4-6 is right. Would like for it to start with Charlie Kirk, that would be a bit of a statement signing. 

Playmaker for me is the other place if there's any budget for fees left that I'd look to spend as opposed to loan . Just think some of these PL loans that have only played U23s can look a bit lightweight in midfield. 

Striker I wouldn't mind someone that's a bit like a Leko that can also cover wide . I don't know if someone like an Ellis Simms might still be available from Everton or if he's got championship interest. 

charlton_hero said:

FishCostaFortune said:

charlton_hero said:

Think LW was a real weakspot today, Washington went missing at times. We definitely need 4-6 players, 4 minimum. 

Hmm, it's moments like this I wish we had access to match stats - as though he may not been super creative when he got the ball in attacking positions - he popped up everywhere and was a big reason Wednesday never created anything of note. 

Can't see him supplying or scoring much from LW this season, sorry. He needs to be played down the middle imo. 

Agree with this. In a way I'd prefer to play a 4-4-2 because his movement and Stockley's ability to drop in and hold up the ball feels like it could cause havoc. 

esseffect said:

MarcusH26 said:

I'd say 4-6 is right. Would like for it to start with Charlie Kirk, that would be a bit of a statement signing. 

Playmaker for me is the other place if there's any budget for fees left that I'd look to spend as opposed to loan . Just think some of these PL loans that have only played U23s can look a bit lightweight in midfield. 

Striker I wouldn't mind someone that's a bit like a Leko that can also cover wide . I don't know if someone like an Ellis Simms might still be available from Everton or if he's got championship interest. 

I really think we already have DJ. Creative flair that goes missing. Don’t want 2 of those 

DJ was frustrating to watch today. Kept running down blind alleys 

flyingkiwiDK said:

esseffect said:

MarcusH26 said:

I'd say 4-6 is right. Would like for it to start with Charlie Kirk, that would be a bit of a statement signing. 

Playmaker for me is the other place if there's any budget for fees left that I'd look to spend as opposed to loan . Just think some of these PL loans that have only played U23s can look a bit lightweight in midfield. 

Striker I wouldn't mind someone that's a bit like a Leko that can also cover wide . I don't know if someone like an Ellis Simms might still be available from Everton or if he's got championship interest. 

I really think we already have DJ. Creative flair that goes missing. Don’t want 2 of those 

DJ was frustrating to watch today. Kept running down blind alleys 

Think he was looking for Liam Millar.

esseffect said:

MarcusH26 said:

I'd say 4-6 is right. Would like for it to start with Charlie Kirk, that would be a bit of a statement signing. 

Playmaker for me is the other place if there's any budget for fees left that I'd look to spend as opposed to loan . Just think some of these PL loans that have only played U23s can look a bit lightweight in midfield. 

Striker I wouldn't mind someone that's a bit like a Leko that can also cover wide . I don't know if someone like an Ellis Simms might still be available from Everton or if he's got championship interest. 

I really think we already have DJ. Creative flair that goes missing. Don’t want 2 of those 

Yes we do, as a minimum, so when one goes missing you bring the other one on

NapaAddick said:

Callumcafc said:

NapaAddick said:

SELR_addicks said:

Need at least 4 bodies in. 

I do not see any good evidence we have replaced Aneke's 15 goals. And without those 15 last year we would be mid to lower half of the table. "Bodies" alone does not get the job done, imo, if the goal is promotion or even playoffs.

We will score more goals this season than we did last season.

Football isn’t as simple as plugging player X in and adding 15 goals.

Wanna put some money on that prediction? We finished 4th in the division in goals (70) scored last season and I see no way we come close to that in 2021-22. How is a £20, payable via Venmo or PayPal? Very happy to lose that money if you are proven correct.

You can't add players to a squad and expect the same output. By that thinking, the year we brought in Ajose and Novak they should've scored 40+ goals between them... They didn't.

Also, Chuks' output was a bit of an anomaly - he had never scored that many goals before (and scored in that many minutes per goal).

With the upgrade in athleticism in midfield, it should mean we also actually get in front of opposition players a bit more rather than allowing them uncontested shots at our goal. If we can keep Innis and Famewo for, we should not concede the same amount of goals too. That also might possibly be where we make up the 15 goals from. 

995632 said:

NapaAddick said:

Callumcafc said:

NapaAddick said:

SELR_addicks said:

Need at least 4 bodies in. 

I do not see any good evidence we have replaced Aneke's 15 goals. And without those 15 last year we would be mid to lower half of the table. "Bodies" alone does not get the job done, imo, if the goal is promotion or even playoffs.

We will score more goals this season than we did last season.

Football isn’t as simple as plugging player X in and adding 15 goals.

Wanna put some money on that prediction? We finished 4th in the division in goals (70) scored last season and I see no way we come close to that in 2021-22. How is a £20, payable via Venmo or PayPal? Very happy to lose that money if you are proven correct.

You can't add players to a squad and expect the same output. By that thinking, the year we brought in Ajose and Novak they should've scored 40+ goals between them... They didn't.

Also, Chuks' output was a bit of an anomaly - he had never scored that many goals before (and scored in that many minutes per goal).

With the upgrade in athleticism in midfield, it should mean we also actually get in front of opposition players a bit more rather than allowing them uncontested shots at our goal. If we can keep Innis and Famewo for, we should not concede the same amount of goals too. That also might possibly be where we make up the 15 goals from. 

That's not scoring more though is it, that's conceding less

If we have got Kirk (please let it be true, quality signing at this level) then that means well be getting 5 in before the window closes. There's no way we're not going to use the available 4 remaining match day squad loan slots. I think we'll probably get at least one more perm in addition to Kirk, so that means we should be 6-7 players better off than we are right now.

Would have been nice to get it done earlier, but I think we'll be more than happy with the squad we end up with.

MarcusH26 said:

DOUCHER said:

not read anything yet but winger / striker should be completed on monday - cast iron source  

Doucher is this Kirk + a striker? 

one player - a winger / striker - i think it is kirk but cast iron could not say / would not say 

randy andy said:

If we have got Kirk (please let it be true, quality signing at this level) then that means well be getting 5 in before the window closes. There's no way we're not going to use the available 4 remaining match day squad loan slots. I think we'll probably get at least one more perm in addition to Kirk, so that means we should be 6-7 players better off than we are right now.

Would have been nice to get it done earlier, but I think we'll be more than happy with the squad we end up with.

Well, if Kirk is true, and being a Charlton fan I am somewhat sceptical. That would mean that in terms of permanents so far we would have brought in MacGillivray, Dobson, Clare, Stockley and Kirk (and technically Famewo). 

For me, that's seriously impressive work.