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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,728
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Scoham said:
    Let's play a game to pass the time - which other 'meltdown' players are out there who we could still sign? And which tier would you put them in? A few examples based on signings so far:

    God tier - guarantees automatic promotion
    Scott Fraser

    Quality tier - guarentees top 6
    Joe Pigott
    Charlie Wyke
    Owen Dale
    Charlie Kirk
    Joel Randall

    Good tier - proof of serious investment
    Jordan Cousins
    Stephen Humphrys
    All the other Ipswich and Wigan signings, too many to name

    Intresting that Crewe haven't sold anyone yet.........  
    They have lost Ryan Wintle to Cardiff, but that was because he was out of contract
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Rudders22 said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Scoham said:
    Let's play a game to pass the time - which other 'meltdown' players are out there who we could still sign? And which tier would you put them in? A few examples based on signings so far:

    God tier - guarantees automatic promotion
    Scott Fraser

    Quality tier - guarentees top 6
    Joe Pigott
    Charlie Wyke
    Owen Dale
    Charlie Kirk
    Joel Randall

    Good tier - proof of serious investment
    Jordan Cousins
    Stephen Humphrys
    All the other Ipswich and Wigan signings, too many to name

    Intresting that Crewe haven't sold anyone yet.........  
    and they had a couple of good players there as well
    There is a low ball offer on the table from Wycombe, far from the £1 million the Alex want 🤔🤔🤔
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,180
    bobmunro said:
    Where's Golfie when you need him? - we need a bit of positivity.
    @RonnieMoore can give us that.

  • We’re signing Darth Vader?
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,441
    Scoham said:
    AndyG said:
    I want to know how all these experts know we arnt going to piss the league before a ball has been kicked ?
    Because NA mentioned the academy so it means we’ll get a few loans at most then fill the remaining gaps in the squad with youth players.

    They’ve decided our lack of activity recently is proof that this is the strategy.
    Without any evidence to the contrary then I go by what I've seen & heard.
    Adkins said after the Welling game we’ll sign more players, why say that if it’s not true?
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,441
    Fraser is a very good signing, but don’t agree he should be classed as a “guarantees automatic promotion” player. 
    I agree, no player is that good, but I based it on the meltdowns I’ve seen on here and social media, not my own opinion.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,864
    Macronate said:
    Ipswich P46 W46 D0 L0 Pts 138
    Wigan P46 W44 D0 L2 Pts 132

    ….is how I think the top 2 will finish next season.

    I also believe it will be a Wigan v Ipswich FA Cup final.
    Fair chance of that in the League Cup as well.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,728

    We’re signing Darth Vader?
    I've heard he's a great striker of the ball... Uses a lot of force


  • Bexleyheath_Addick
    Bexleyheath_Addick Posts: 211
    edited July 2021


    Cawley responding to someone asking if any deals are close. Pretty much confirms that he is getting much less info from the club than he used to.

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  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600

    We’re signing Darth Vader?
    Now your tarkin
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,793
    edited July 2021
    Scoham said:
    Scoham said:
    AndyG said:
    I want to know how all these experts know we arnt going to piss the league before a ball has been kicked ?
    Because NA mentioned the academy so it means we’ll get a few loans at most then fill the remaining gaps in the squad with youth players.

    They’ve decided our lack of activity recently is proof that this is the strategy.
    Without any evidence to the contrary then I go by what I've seen & heard.
    Adkins said after the Welling game we’ll sign more players, why say that if it’s not true?
    Let's hope he didn't have his fingers crossed behind his back ;) ... but seriously agree, think he really does feel that is a probability, mind you what else could he say in that situation.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,725
    bobmunro said:
    Where's Golfie when you need him? - we need a bit of positivity.
    I'm been at the hospital all morning as my youngest has just been diagnosed with type 1 diabetes. 

    I've posted a few comments earlier but will be quieter than usual due to hospital visits as the lad had been kept in for a few days.

    Suffice to say I think a lot of people thought that TS was going to be spending a bit of money seeing as HE said last year that his aim was promotion by the end of the 2021/22 season at the very least - and in his view we had enough last season for at least top 6. Then when that didnt happen he said that we would "blow through this league" this season......and then NA said ON LIVE TV that the Hull celebrations would be us next year.

    You can only go by what people say at the time. Currently imo actions dont marry up with words. No problem, it's Sandgaard's club & his money. If he now thinks that 3 or 4 of the U23's can step up then that's his call. I have my season ticket will be going regardless. Just dont expect me to wet my pants thinking that we will do anything different to last season. Currently we are without a main goalscorer (Stockley is not a 20 goal a season striker......and as most of his goals will be with his head we need decent wingers/ crossing to supply him) and also at least another wide man. Plus a midfield general. Claydon & Morgan could fill those roles but I would prefer someone with more experience.

    If you are happy with where we are at the moment then that's fine. I'm not. You might be right.....or I might be. All I would say thay its better to be ahead of the game than behind it. 

  • RedRobin
    RedRobin Posts: 1,377
    rumour .. we won't be signing anyone else on a permanent basis
    Source?
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,725
    Scoham said:
    Scoham said:
    AndyG said:
    I want to know how all these experts know we arnt going to piss the league before a ball has been kicked ?
    Because NA mentioned the academy so it means we’ll get a few loans at most then fill the remaining gaps in the squad with youth players.

    They’ve decided our lack of activity recently is proof that this is the strategy.
    Without any evidence to the contrary then I go by what I've seen & heard.
    Adkins said after the Welling game we’ll sign more players, why say that if it’s not true?
    I think we'll sign some more players, definitely. They will mostly be loans & 1 or 2 may be good, but history has shown than 2 or 3 will be duds. I don't see us splashing out & spending much money by prising away a top talent. 

  • We’re signing Darth Vader?
    I find this forum's lack of faith disturbing... 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,278
    Rudders22 said:
    Heard a rumour the museum is open tomorrow.
    source?
    Unreliable
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,921
    bobmunro said:
    Where's Golfie when you need him? - we need a bit of positivity.
    I'm been at the hospital all morning as my youngest has just been diagnosed with type 1 diabetes. 

    I've posted a few comments earlier but will be quieter than usual due to hospital visits as the lad had been kept in for a few days.

    Suffice to say I think a lot of people thought that TS was going to be spending a bit of money seeing as HE said last year that his aim was promotion by the end of the 2021/22 season at the very least - and in his view we had enough last season for at least top 6. Then when that didnt happen he said that we would "blow through this league" this season......and then NA said ON LIVE TV that the Hull celebrations would be us next year.

    You can only go by what people say at the time. Currently imo actions dont marry up with words. No problem, it's Sandgaard's club & his money. If he now thinks that 3 or 4 of the U23's can step up then that's his call. I have my season ticket will be going regardless. Just dont expect me to wet my pants thinking that we will do anything different to last season. Currently we are without a main goalscorer (Stockley is not a 20 goal a season striker......and as most of his goals will be with his head we need decent wingers/ crossing to supply him) and also at least another wide man. Plus a midfield general. Claydon & Morgan could fill those roles but I would prefer someone with more experience.

    If you are happy with where we are at the moment then that's fine. I'm not. You might be right.....or I might be. All I would say thay its better to be ahead of the game than behind it. 

    Far more important things on your mind Golfie, hope your lad gets all the rest and help required and he is back home soon.
    Seconded. Golfie thinking of you all mate
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,441
    Scoham said:
    Scoham said:
    AndyG said:
    I want to know how all these experts know we arnt going to piss the league before a ball has been kicked ?
    Because NA mentioned the academy so it means we’ll get a few loans at most then fill the remaining gaps in the squad with youth players.

    They’ve decided our lack of activity recently is proof that this is the strategy.
    Without any evidence to the contrary then I go by what I've seen & heard.
    Adkins said after the Welling game we’ll sign more players, why say that if it’s not true?
    I think we'll sign some more players, definitely. They will mostly be loans & 1 or 2 may be good, but history has shown than 2 or 3 will be duds. I don't see us splashing out & spending much money by prising away a top talent. 
    I agree I don’t see us spending big money, but I think we could see a few come in towards the end of the window if they become available for a reasonable price, a bit like we saw with DJ.

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  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,533
    Cafc43v3r said:

    We’re signing Darth Vader?
    Now your tarkin
    Just how old Dave Prowse would have said it too, bless him 😉
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,072
    Best of luck to your lad @golfaddick


    P.S. I make you right on your assessment of where we are currently. 
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,719

    We’re signing Darth Vader?
    He passes the height test at least....
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,864
    edited July 2021
    bobmunro said:
    Where's Golfie when you need him? - we need a bit of positivity.
    I'm been at the hospital all morning as my youngest has just been diagnosed with type 1 diabetes. 

    I've posted a few comments earlier but will be quieter than usual due to hospital visits as the lad had been kept in for a few days.

    Suffice to say I think a lot of people thought that TS was going to be spending a bit of money seeing as HE said last year that his aim was promotion by the end of the 2021/22 season at the very least - and in his view we had enough last season for at least top 6. Then when that didnt happen he said that we would "blow through this league" this season......and then NA said ON LIVE TV that the Hull celebrations would be us next year.

    You can only go by what people say at the time. Currently imo actions dont marry up with words. No problem, it's Sandgaard's club & his money. If he now thinks that 3 or 4 of the U23's can step up then that's his call. I have my season ticket will be going regardless. Just dont expect me to wet my pants thinking that we will do anything different to last season. Currently we are without a main goalscorer (Stockley is not a 20 goal a season striker......and as most of his goals will be with his head we need decent wingers/ crossing to supply him) and also at least another wide man. Plus a midfield general. Claydon & Morgan could fill those roles but I would prefer someone with more experience.

    If you are happy with where we are at the moment then that's fine. I'm not. You might be right.....or I might be. All I would say thay its better to be ahead of the game than behind it. 

    So sorry to hear that, Golfie.

    Am I happy with the situation? No. Am I calling out TS as a bullshitting, liar? No again.

    We need to consider the following:

    1. A player needs to want to come to Charlton.
    2. Unlike Wigan and Ipswich, we may not want to pay over-inflated transfer fees and wages.
    3. We have no idea what type of players Adkins wants and whether or not any of the players signed by our competitors fit in with his plans. We all think we know a lot but Adkins, Roddy and Gallen have all forgotten more than we know.

    Some seem to be writing off the season before a ball has been kicked in anger.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,728
    bobmunro said:
    Where's Golfie when you need him? - we need a bit of positivity.
    I'm been at the hospital all morning as my youngest has just been diagnosed with type 1 diabetes. 

    I've posted a few comments earlier but will be quieter than usual due to hospital visits as the lad had been kept in for a few days.

    Suffice to say I think a lot of people thought that TS was going to be spending a bit of money seeing as HE said last year that his aim was promotion by the end of the 2021/22 season at the very least - and in his view we had enough last season for at least top 6. Then when that didnt happen he said that we would "blow through this league" this season......and then NA said ON LIVE TV that the Hull celebrations would be us next year.

    You can only go by what people say at the time. Currently imo actions dont marry up with words. No problem, it's Sandgaard's club & his money. If he now thinks that 3 or 4 of the U23's can step up then that's his call. I have my season ticket will be going regardless. Just dont expect me to wet my pants thinking that we will do anything different to last season. Currently we are without a main goalscorer (Stockley is not a 20 goal a season striker......and as most of his goals will be with his head we need decent wingers/ crossing to supply him) and also at least another wide man. Plus a midfield general. Claydon & Morgan could fill those roles but I would prefer someone with more experience.

    If you are happy with where we are at the moment then that's fine. I'm not. You might be right.....or I might be. All I would say thay its better to be ahead of the game than behind it. 

    All the best to both you and your Son Golfie!! 
  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,533

    We’re signing Darth Vader?
    He passes the height test at least....
    Agreed, we Mustafar chance of getting this one over the line…
  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,641
    Fraser looked good at the Valley last season as we gave him the freedom of the pitch, even a poor player would look good in those circumstances.
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    Rossman92 said:
    Valley11 said:
    Yep. It’s concerning now. How is it that Ipswich and Wigan are able to secure top targets and we aren’t? And we need a fair few players. 
    Because it looks like they are budgeting massively  over their income.

    We can’t have it both ways imo. We can’t bang the drum on how important stability and sustainability is, then kick off when clubs around us pay over the odds on a short-term gamble. 

    Frustrating as it is. 
    Aye boss. Going from the brink of extinction last year to splashing an obscene amount of cash the next year is not sustainable and was never going to happen
    Define obscene. We are still net sellers since TS’ arrival here.
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    Heard a rumour the museum is open tomorrow.
    We are signing Monet.
  • Rossman92 said:
    Valley11 said:
    Yep. It’s concerning now. How is it that Ipswich and Wigan are able to secure top targets and we aren’t? And we need a fair few players. 
    Because it looks like they are budgeting massively  over their income.

    We can’t have it both ways imo. We can’t bang the drum on how important stability and sustainability is, then kick off when clubs around us pay over the odds on a short-term gamble. 

    Frustrating as it is. 
    Aye boss. Going from the brink of extinction last year to splashing an obscene amount of cash the next year is not sustainable and was never going to happen
    Define obscene. We are still net sellers since TS’ arrival here.
    Who we sold since TS came? 
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