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Summer 2019 Transfer Rumours (ed. Pg 296 - Start of Deadline Day)

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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,626
    I know it's the rumours thread but this is why I want Eaves. I've tried to keep it realistic and with players that we have been linked with or players on record Bowyer has praised.

    The playstyle speaks for itself, I noticed last season how selfless Lyle is and how effective he is when he drifts out wide, feel like with a proper target man we could exploit that, Lameiras a typical winger, CJ Hamilton can play as a versatile left sided player, his pace would protect Naby on the overlaps when Naby gets adventourous with his passing, it would allow them to two up on any sort of tricky wingers. That's where I felt Naby got exposed at times last season, Lockyer to break up the play, sort of the Yoni Buyens role, play the ball forwards to Oztumer, Oztumer to create the chances, if he gets targeted he can be well protected and we could run the flanks. Nathan Thompson as a right sided CB, he played as a right back all last season but I think Anfernee could be a seriously decent wing back, has pace, can beat a man and confident on the ball, would link up well with Lyle imo and there was glimpses of it last season. Pearce to do his usual hustle and bustle, lead from the back.

    That would be my game plan for next season and I think it's realistic. The diamond we were exposed at league 1 sometimes and that's with players of quality like Cullen and Bielik, without them it's gonna get worse I just don't think we have the complete full backs to play a system that relies a lot on one on one defending, Dijksteel showed signs.


    Heard from what should be a reliable source this morning that Lameiras is very unlikely to be joining, even though he's spoken with Bowyer. Not enough money. Possibly heading back to Portugal.
    Not enough money? The guy has played for league one Coventry and league one Plymouth!

    Wtf are we offering?
    I've said on here several times before .. briefly .. what is a 'nice earner/good living wage outside the M25 might be inadequate in 'real' London. On a couple of grand a week (or a lot less) (e.g.) Lameiras could live like a prince in Portugal .. players have to maximize their earnings and savings in what is a short career ..  living and working in expensive cities like London would make a hole in a player's potential cash pot .. In this context, I mean a player outside the 'parachute bolstered' Champ clubs and the Prem of course 
    100%

    When a player moves one of the major factors to consider is where they are to live.

    The club he plays for is possibly secondary to this.
    £2.5k a week is approx £130k pa.  That's the salary of a top grade Hospital  Consultant (inc extras). Good enough to get you a 4 bed house in Chislehurst, Beckenham or  Bromley. Hardly slumming it..
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    I know it's the rumours thread but this is why I want Eaves. I've tried to keep it realistic and with players that we have been linked with or players on record Bowyer has praised.

    The playstyle speaks for itself, I noticed last season how selfless Lyle is and how effective he is when he drifts out wide, feel like with a proper target man we could exploit that, Lameiras a typical winger, CJ Hamilton can play as a versatile left sided player, his pace would protect Naby on the overlaps when Naby gets adventourous with his passing, it would allow them to two up on any sort of tricky wingers. That's where I felt Naby got exposed at times last season, Lockyer to break up the play, sort of the Yoni Buyens role, play the ball forwards to Oztumer, Oztumer to create the chances, if he gets targeted he can be well protected and we could run the flanks. Nathan Thompson as a right sided CB, he played as a right back all last season but I think Anfernee could be a seriously decent wing back, has pace, can beat a man and confident on the ball, would link up well with Lyle imo and there was glimpses of it last season. Pearce to do his usual hustle and bustle, lead from the back.

    That would be my game plan for next season and I think it's realistic. The diamond we were exposed at league 1 sometimes and that's with players of quality like Cullen and Bielik, without them it's gonna get worse I just don't think we have the complete full backs to play a system that relies a lot on one on one defending, Dijksteel showed signs.


    Heard from what should be a reliable source this morning that Lameiras is very unlikely to be joining, even though he's spoken with Bowyer. Not enough money. Possibly heading back to Portugal.
    Not enough money? The guy has played for league one Coventry and league one Plymouth!

    Wtf are we offering?
    I've said on here several times before .. briefly .. what is a 'nice earner/good living wage outside the M25 might be inadequate in 'real' London. On a couple of grand a week (or a lot less) (e.g.) Lameiras could live like a prince in Portugal .. players have to maximize their earnings and savings in what is a short career ..  living and working in expensive cities like London would make a hole in a player's potential cash pot .. In this context, I mean a player outside the 'parachute bolstered' Champ clubs and the Prem of course 
    100%

    When a player moves one of the major factors to consider is where they are to live.

    The club he plays for is possibly secondary to this.
    £2.5k a week is approx £130k pa.  That's the salary of a top grade Hospital  Consultant (inc extras). Good enough to get you a 4 bed house in Chislehurst, Beckenham or  Bromley. Hardly slumming it..
    But it’s not the going rate.
  • Redhenry said:
    2.5

    Must be very tempting for the fella....... 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    I know it's the rumours thread but this is why I want Eaves. I've tried to keep it realistic and with players that we have been linked with or players on record Bowyer has praised.

    The playstyle speaks for itself, I noticed last season how selfless Lyle is and how effective he is when he drifts out wide, feel like with a proper target man we could exploit that, Lameiras a typical winger, CJ Hamilton can play as a versatile left sided player, his pace would protect Naby on the overlaps when Naby gets adventourous with his passing, it would allow them to two up on any sort of tricky wingers. That's where I felt Naby got exposed at times last season, Lockyer to break up the play, sort of the Yoni Buyens role, play the ball forwards to Oztumer, Oztumer to create the chances, if he gets targeted he can be well protected and we could run the flanks. Nathan Thompson as a right sided CB, he played as a right back all last season but I think Anfernee could be a seriously decent wing back, has pace, can beat a man and confident on the ball, would link up well with Lyle imo and there was glimpses of it last season. Pearce to do his usual hustle and bustle, lead from the back.

    That would be my game plan for next season and I think it's realistic. The diamond we were exposed at league 1 sometimes and that's with players of quality like Cullen and Bielik, without them it's gonna get worse I just don't think we have the complete full backs to play a system that relies a lot on one on one defending, Dijksteel showed signs.


    Heard from what should be a reliable source this morning that Lameiras is very unlikely to be joining, even though he's spoken with Bowyer. Not enough money. Possibly heading back to Portugal.
    Not enough money? The guy has played for league one Coventry and league one Plymouth!

    Wtf are we offering?
    I've said on here several times before .. briefly .. what is a 'nice earner/good living wage outside the M25 might be inadequate in 'real' London. On a couple of grand a week (or a lot less) (e.g.) Lameiras could live like a prince in Portugal .. players have to maximize their earnings and savings in what is a short career ..  living and working in expensive cities like London would make a hole in a player's potential cash pot .. In this context, I mean a player outside the 'parachute bolstered' Champ clubs and the Prem of course 
    100%

    When a player moves one of the major factors to consider is where they are to live.

    The club he plays for is possibly secondary to this.
    £2.5k a week is approx £130k pa.  That's the salary of a top grade Hospital  Consultant (inc extras). Good enough to get you a 4 bed house in Chislehurst, Beckenham or  Bromley. Hardly slumming it..
    On a 30 year mortgage, not on a 10 year career 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,032
    I know it's the rumours thread but this is why I want Eaves. I've tried to keep it realistic and with players that we have been linked with or players on record Bowyer has praised.

    The playstyle speaks for itself, I noticed last season how selfless Lyle is and how effective he is when he drifts out wide, feel like with a proper target man we could exploit that, Lameiras a typical winger, CJ Hamilton can play as a versatile left sided player, his pace would protect Naby on the overlaps when Naby gets adventourous with his passing, it would allow them to two up on any sort of tricky wingers. That's where I felt Naby got exposed at times last season, Lockyer to break up the play, sort of the Yoni Buyens role, play the ball forwards to Oztumer, Oztumer to create the chances, if he gets targeted he can be well protected and we could run the flanks. Nathan Thompson as a right sided CB, he played as a right back all last season but I think Anfernee could be a seriously decent wing back, has pace, can beat a man and confident on the ball, would link up well with Lyle imo and there was glimpses of it last season. Pearce to do his usual hustle and bustle, lead from the back.

    That would be my game plan for next season and I think it's realistic. The diamond we were exposed at league 1 sometimes and that's with players of quality like Cullen and Bielik, without them it's gonna get worse I just don't think we have the complete full backs to play a system that relies a lot on one on one defending, Dijksteel showed signs.


    Heard from what should be a reliable source this morning that Lameiras is very unlikely to be joining, even though he's spoken with Bowyer. Not enough money. Possibly heading back to Portugal.
    Not enough money? The guy has played for league one Coventry and league one Plymouth!

    Wtf are we offering?
    I've said on here several times before .. briefly .. what is a 'nice earner/good living wage outside the M25 might be inadequate in 'real' London. On a couple of grand a week (or a lot less) (e.g.) Lameiras could live like a prince in Portugal .. players have to maximize their earnings and savings in what is a short career ..  living and working in expensive cities like London would make a hole in a player's potential cash pot .. In this context, I mean a player outside the 'parachute bolstered' Champ clubs and the Prem of course 
    100%

    When a player moves one of the major factors to consider is where they are to live.

    The club he plays for is possibly secondary to this.
    £2.5k a week is approx £130k pa.  That's the salary of a top grade Hospital  Consultant (inc extras). Good enough to get you a 4 bed house in Chislehurst, Beckenham or  Bromley. Hardly slumming it..
    Where did I use the term "slumming it"?
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,032
    Agent tells player a club has come in for him,  the first subject raised after knowing the club would be wages.
  • I know it's the rumours thread but this is why I want Eaves. I've tried to keep it realistic and with players that we have been linked with or players on record Bowyer has praised.

    The playstyle speaks for itself, I noticed last season how selfless Lyle is and how effective he is when he drifts out wide, feel like with a proper target man we could exploit that, Lameiras a typical winger, CJ Hamilton can play as a versatile left sided player, his pace would protect Naby on the overlaps when Naby gets adventourous with his passing, it would allow them to two up on any sort of tricky wingers. That's where I felt Naby got exposed at times last season, Lockyer to break up the play, sort of the Yoni Buyens role, play the ball forwards to Oztumer, Oztumer to create the chances, if he gets targeted he can be well protected and we could run the flanks. Nathan Thompson as a right sided CB, he played as a right back all last season but I think Anfernee could be a seriously decent wing back, has pace, can beat a man and confident on the ball, would link up well with Lyle imo and there was glimpses of it last season. Pearce to do his usual hustle and bustle, lead from the back.

    That would be my game plan for next season and I think it's realistic. The diamond we were exposed at league 1 sometimes and that's with players of quality like Cullen and Bielik, without them it's gonna get worse I just don't think we have the complete full backs to play a system that relies a lot on one on one defending, Dijksteel showed signs.


    Heard from what should be a reliable source this morning that Lameiras is very unlikely to be joining, even though he's spoken with Bowyer. Not enough money. Possibly heading back to Portugal.
    Not enough money? The guy has played for league one Coventry and league one Plymouth!

    Wtf are we offering?
    I've said on here several times before .. briefly .. what is a 'nice earner/good living wage outside the M25 might be inadequate in 'real' London. On a couple of grand a week (or a lot less) (e.g.) Lameiras could live like a prince in Portugal .. players have to maximize their earnings and savings in what is a short career ..  living and working in expensive cities like London would make a hole in a player's potential cash pot .. In this context, I mean a player outside the 'parachute bolstered' Champ clubs and the Prem of course 
    100%

    When a player moves one of the major factors to consider is where they are to live.

    The club he plays for is possibly secondary to this.
    £2.5k a week is approx £130k pa.  That's the salary of a top grade Hospital  Consultant (inc extras). Good enough to get you a 4 bed house in Chislehurst, Beckenham or  Bromley. Hardly slumming it..
    Irrelevant
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    edited June 2019
    In the summer of 2013 we had ONE first team player on £2.5k a week or less - the typical salary was double that. That was six years ago.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,670
    Reading through all 60 pages of this thread I have come to the conclusion Roland is a cnut. 
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,476
    Reading through all 60 pages of this thread I have come to the conclusion Roland is a cnut. 
    You are a slow learner.
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  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,670
    cfgs said:
    Reading through all 60 pages of this thread I have come to the conclusion Roland is a cnut. 
    You are a slow learner.
    Only reaffirming what I have been saying for the past couple of years tbf.
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,418
    edited June 2019
    Davo55 said:
    Wearing a hoodie in June. Must be preparing for those bitter Scottish summers.

  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    I suspect that Bowyer and Gallen will get pretty frustrated losing our targets to better offers. 
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    One thing I think we’ll all agree Bowyer can’t complain he didn’t know what the budget was and the challenges it brings when deciding to sign up for more
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    One thing I think we’ll all agree Bowyer can’t complain he didn’t know what the budget was and the challenges it brings when deciding to sign up for more
    However he can’t know whether the club will be sold. I don’t think he can lose actually. If the squad is inadequate people in the game will be well aware that is Duchatelet’s fault. 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,670
    One thing I think we’ll all agree Bowyer can’t complain he didn’t know what the budget was and the challenges it brings when deciding to sign up for more
    Hopefully he has been told of a few decent loan signings he can have. 
    Otherwise we be f@#@$ed
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    To be fair, none of the players we've allegedly been after have signed for other clubs yet

    Players may be after money but it doesn't mean they'll get it. After all Ben Reeves waited all summer for a better offer before he joined us
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    In the summer of 2013 we had ONE first team player on £2.5k a week or less - the typical salary was double that. That was six years ago.
    So the logical conclusion is that as a club, that is about where we should be pitching our salaries, with out external investment.  That's what we offered BFG.  What's the problem then? 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    edited June 2019
    To be fair, none of the players we've allegedly been after have signed for other clubs yet

    Players may be after money but it doesn't mean they'll get it. After all Ben Reeves waited all summer for a better offer before he joined us
    True, but Reeves did have a good offer from us to 'fall back on'. 

    I highly doubt players like Eaves will fail to get more money elsewhere. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    To be fair, none of the players we've allegedly been after have signed for other clubs yet

    Players may be after money but it doesn't mean they'll get it. After all Ben Reeves waited all summer for a better offer before he joined us
    True, but Reeves did have a good offer from us to 'fall back on'. 

    I highly doubt players like Eaves will fail to get more money elsewhere. 
    I've no idea, but I doubt Reeves was offered more than the sums that the likes of Aribo and Bauer were offered for example
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  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    To be fair, none of the players we've allegedly been after have signed for other clubs yet

    Players may be after money but it doesn't mean they'll get it. After all Ben Reeves waited all summer for a better offer before he joined us
    True, but Reeves did have a good offer from us to 'fall back on'. 

    I highly doubt players like Eaves will fail to get more money elsewhere. 
    I've no idea, but I doubt Reeves was offered more than the sums that the likes of Aribo and Bauer were offered for example
    He wasn't on less than Bauer was offered. 
  • Aethelstan
    Aethelstan Posts: 542

    Hopefully he has been told of a few decent loan signings he can have. 
    Otherwise we be f@#@$ed
    foisted?  You mean a lot of inferior Belgian league players will be foisted on us? Very possible.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,994
    Cafc43v3r said:
    In the summer of 2013 we had ONE first team player on £2.5k a week or less - the typical salary was double that. That was six years ago.
    So the logical conclusion is that as a club, that is about where we should be pitching our salaries, with out external investment.  That's what we offered BFG.  What's the problem then? 
    You must have missed it. BFG joined Preston :smile:
  • Kinsella87
    Kinsella87 Posts: 466
    According to rumour we are in for Rick Savage. 
    More likely Lilly Savage !
    Better than Robbie Savage! 
  • JoshAddick
    JoshAddick Posts: 1,786
    Could be a massive week. 4-5 signings by Friday according to Bowyer
  • CAFCDAZ
    CAFCDAZ Posts: 1,198
    So we're offering top end 4/5k a week hardly enticing for top level league 1 players let alone championship. Our only pull for any of these players is guaranteed first team football or the opportunity to join a United unit under lee Bowyer. I think personally we need to get a core of 18/20 to see us through to Jan, new owners pump a little money in and that's where bowyer shows what he can do. Him and gallen are lethal with little to nothing imagine what they'd achieve with abit of wonga
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,626
    CAFCDAZ said:
    So we're offering top end 4/5k a week hardly enticing for top level league 1 players let alone championship. Our only pull for any of these players is guaranteed first team football or the opportunity to join a United unit under lee Bowyer. I think personally we need to get a core of 18/20 to see us through to Jan, new owners pump a little money in and that's where bowyer shows what he can do. Him and gallen are lethal with little to nothing imagine what they'd achieve with abit of wonga
    Surely what should be "enticing" for top level League 1 players is the fact that we are in the Championship. That means they get to play against better players, in better & bigger stadiums (with bigger crowds) and have more exposure due to more televised games.

    Or is it just down to money.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    CAFCDAZ said:
    So we're offering top end 4/5k a week hardly enticing for top level league 1 players let alone championship. Our only pull for any of these players is guaranteed first team football or the opportunity to join a United unit under lee Bowyer. I think personally we need to get a core of 18/20 to see us through to Jan, new owners pump a little money in and that's where bowyer shows what he can do. Him and gallen are lethal with little to nothing imagine what they'd achieve with abit of wonga
    Surely what should be "enticing" for top level League 1 players is the fact that we are in the Championship. That means they get to play against better players, in better & bigger stadiums (with bigger crowds) and have more exposure due to more televised games.

    Or is it just down to money.
    They could play for us in the Championship for 2.5-3k a week... Or A.N. Other team in the same league but for considerably more. The only real selling point we have that no-one else does is Bowyer himself.
  • agim
    agim Posts: 1,135
    After a quick skim of the free agents a couple of names stand out. Joe Ledley, Johan Djourou, Danny Guthrie. Players with experience at this level or higher and if we really are in the shit players we might end up turning to.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,145
    edited June 2019
    CAFCDAZ said:
    So we're offering top end 4/5k a week hardly enticing for top level league 1 players let alone championship. Our only pull for any of these players is guaranteed first team football or the opportunity to join a United unit under lee Bowyer. I think personally we need to get a core of 18/20 to see us through to Jan, new owners pump a little money in and that's where bowyer shows what he can do. Him and gallen are lethal with little to nothing imagine what they'd achieve with abit of wonga
    Surely what should be "enticing" for top level League 1 players is the fact that we are in the Championship. That means they get to play against better players, in better & bigger stadiums (with bigger crowds) and have more exposure due to more televised games.

    Or is it just down to money.
    With you being a financial adviser what do you think ?

    do people when offered a choice of return of 5% on their money for a year or 10% returned per annum over 3 years ever choose the first option .

    of course for players with a limited decent earning time scale of 10-15 years it will 99% be about the money .