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Summer 2019 Transfer Rumours (ed. Pg 296 - Start of Deadline Day)
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I’m sure we’ll bring in at least one more striker, so I wouldn’t say it’s guaranteed.Covered_End_Lad said:
Bonne will start the first game of the season - guaranteed. This is RD we are talking about, we don't get squad players.ShootersHillGuru said:First three or four will tell us a lot. With a small budget the initial signings should be the priority signings who Bowyer really needs to get in. Hopefully they are his and Gallens preferred players. I think Bonne is a calculated punt who I doubt we will see too much of early on.3 -
Let's just hope he's not RD's idea of a Taylor replacement...0
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Henry Irving said:
Is "close" the new "imminent" ?? If so I wont hold my breath.0 -
That we're offering players half what we were offering six years ago, when we narrowly stayed up? Looking at the 2017/18 operating loss, the club will lose money ("external investment") in all scenarios (excluding player trading). That is unavoidable. As I've said before, the club would have made an operating loss in 2017/18 if it had paid no salaries at all to anyone - and that's assuming ticket revenue wasn't affected by that unlikely scenario.Cafc43v3r said:
So the logical conclusion is that as a club, that is about where we should be pitching our salaries, with out external investment. That's what we offered BFG. What's the problem then?Airman Brown said:In the summer of 2013 we had ONE first team player on £2.5k a week or less - the typical salary was double that. That was six years ago.
If you don't like that as owner, sell the club. However, you can budget to try to stay in the Championship and retain the £6m-£8m extra revenue that this generates for 2020/21 or you can forfeit it again by getting relegated to L1. You can run up the operating loss in 2019/20 or 2020/21, but in the latter case you reduce the asset value too.
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God knows but it's just nonsense, Ruben was one of if not the best attacking mid last season, he can play on the wings, as a 10 and he can do a bit in the midfield. Terrorised us to an extent at their place first half and falls under the category of if he's not good enough for the championship he will be good enough if we go down, if he performs in the championship and we go down we could probably get a fee, if we stay up then goody gum drops.Moo said:
Surely if he was willing to pay Bauer 5k there must be some extra to pay a little more. Nothing is easy with RDBraziliance said:Funny how Roland works, has a policy of wanting young players that could be sold on for value. Lameiras is 23? Looks like he has potential, already a pretty decent player but won't pay up. Beyond clueless
Instead we are mucking about cause of the weasel. How he ever got rich in the first place is beyond me0 -
Not signings though.Henry Irving said:
Knowing our luck it probably means the new kit and new sponsor.4 -
New vending machine contract and a new intern painting the pitch lines at the training ground2
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Sorry it has been mentioned we offered BFG 5k a week, which you suggests would have been a "typical" salary. So that's not half is it?Airman Brown said:
That we're offering players half what we were offering six years ago, when we narrowly stayed up? Looking at the 2017/18 operating loss, the club will lose money ("external investment") in all scenarios (excluding player trading). That is unavoidable. As I've said before, the club would have made an operating loss in 2017/18 if it had paid no salaries at all to anyone - and that's assuming ticket revenue wasn't affected by that unlikely scenario.Cafc43v3r said:
So the logical conclusion is that as a club, that is about where we should be pitching our salaries, with out external investment. That's what we offered BFG. What's the problem then?Airman Brown said:In the summer of 2013 we had ONE first team player on £2.5k a week or less - the typical salary was double that. That was six years ago.
If you don't like that as owner, sell the club. However, you can budget to try to stay in the Championship and retain the £6m-£8m extra revenue that this generates for 2020/21 or you can forfeit it again by getting relegated to L1. You can run up the operating loss in 2019/20 or 2020/21, but in the latter case you reduce the asset value too.0 -
Mentioned and also contradicted, but I wasn't talking about Bauer. I was talking about the club's ability to recruit suitable new players if it is offering them £2.5k a week.Cafc43v3r said:
Sorry it has been mentioned we offered BFG 5k a week, which you suggests would have been a "typical" salary. So that's not half is it?Airman Brown said:
That we're offering players half what we were offering six years ago, when we narrowly stayed up? Looking at the 2017/18 operating loss, the club will lose money ("external investment") in all scenarios (excluding player trading). That is unavoidable. As I've said before, the club would have made an operating loss in 2017/18 if it had paid no salaries at all to anyone - and that's assuming ticket revenue wasn't affected by that unlikely scenario.Cafc43v3r said:
So the logical conclusion is that as a club, that is about where we should be pitching our salaries, with out external investment. That's what we offered BFG. What's the problem then?Airman Brown said:In the summer of 2013 we had ONE first team player on £2.5k a week or less - the typical salary was double that. That was six years ago.
If you don't like that as owner, sell the club. However, you can budget to try to stay in the Championship and retain the £6m-£8m extra revenue that this generates for 2020/21 or you can forfeit it again by getting relegated to L1. You can run up the operating loss in 2019/20 or 2020/21, but in the latter case you reduce the asset value too.
Our senior players won't have been on £2.5k or less a week in L1, so it doesn't seem likely that many will sign for that salary for a club in the Championship.0 -
Rumour from the other forum:
We've enquired into Herbie Kane on loan from Liverpool. He was one of the better players for Doncaster last year.9 - Sponsored links:
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good player. Liverpool may like this step up from league 1 and will get games.covered end junior said:Rumour from the other forum:
We've enquired into Herbie Kane on loan from Liverpool. He was one of the better players for Doncaster last year.4 -
Would definitely take him from what I saw, Kane, Whiteman, Wilks and Marquis looked like the standout players in the Donny side.3
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Only because everybody seems to be confused. 5 was offered to Bauer, 2.5 was offered to freebies who were not previously at the club. Final time i promise
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I reckon if we had we had offered a two year deal to Bauer at 5k a week at the start of or during last season he would have take it.
why we didn’t I have no idea. He is too good for League 1 imo but you need a core of senior players if you are looking for promotion.
The only suggestion I have is that Duchâtelet is clueless. Despite wanting to sell, he has no idea what creates or destroys value in a football club.
A mid-table league one club with a budget that matches expenditure is not going to be worth as much as a loss making championship side.
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Well I wouldn’t say you’re going to be wrong but hasn’t Bowyer already said that Bonne is “a project” to work with ? Implies he’s been brought in for potential rather than being expected to start. On that basis I’m going to say that unless we really bomb out in the transfers he won’t be starting or anywhere too close to.Covered_End_Lad said:
Bonne will start the first game of the season - guaranteed. This is RD we are talking about, we don't get squad players.ShootersHillGuru said:First three or four will tell us a lot. With a small budget the initial signings should be the priority signings who Bowyer really needs to get in. Hopefully they are his and Gallens preferred players. I think Bonne is a calculated punt who I doubt we will see too much of early on.0 -
Bauer wasn’t going to sign another League One contract last summer - he always wanted Championship football for 2019/20. The only reason we had a shot this summer is due to promotion.2
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Whilst our sponsor ran out, our kit manufacturer is still in place.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Not signings though.Henry Irving said:
Knowing our luck it probably means the new kit and new sponsor.0 -
Is it me or is that a poorly worded title?Scoham said:2 -
I actually think he would have done very well at Southampton. If we had to lose him I wanted him to go there. The way they played last year once Hasenhüttl came in would have suited him.Scoham said:3 - Sponsored links:
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How is it we keep making lossesThat we're offering players half what we were offering six years ago, when we narrowly stayed up? Looking at the 2017/18 operating loss, the club will lose money ("external investment") in all scenarios (excluding player trading). That is unavoidable. As I've said before, the club would have made an operating loss in 2017/18 if it had paid no salaries at all to anyone - and that's assuming ticket revenue wasn't affected by that unlikely scenario.
If you don't like that as owner, sell the club. However, you can budget to try to stay in the Championship and retain the £6m-£8m extra revenue that this generates for 2020/21 or you can forfeit it again by getting relegated to L1. You can run up the operating loss in 2019/20 or 2020/21, but in the latter case you reduce the asset value too.0 -
Nah glad he's gone Rangerscovered end junior said:
I actually think he would have done very well at Southampton. If we had to lose him I wanted him to go there. The way they played last year once Hasenhüttl came in would have suited him.Scoham said:
Imagine the compensation that Roland would have been paid had he gone to Southampton, this is Joe's way of sticking two fingers up at him as bet the players know that any transfer fees wont go back into the squad building2 -
With all due respect I doubt the playing staff care *that* much about where the money goes, their emotional attachment to a club is to their teammates and the coaching staff, and to a lesser extent the fans. They may be frustrated because the owner hasn't tied them down to big contracts and whatnot, but I can't see someone like Aribo deliberately choosing his next team based on how much or little money goes to Roland! ;-)ForeverAddickted said:
Nah glad he's gone Rangerscovered end junior said:
I actually think he would have done very well at Southampton. If we had to lose him I wanted him to go there. The way they played last year once Hasenhüttl came in would have suited him.Scoham said:
Imagine the compensation that Roland would have been paid had he gone to Southampton, this is Joe's way of sticking two fingers up at him as bet the players know that any transfer fees wont go back into the squad building8 -
If that's a serious question, it's because pretty much all English clubs have greater expenditure than their income.shuffles67 said:
How is it we keep making lossesThat we're offering players half what we were offering six years ago, when we narrowly stayed up? Looking at the 2017/18 operating loss, the club will lose money ("external investment") in all scenarios (excluding player trading). That is unavoidable. As I've said before, the club would have made an operating loss in 2017/18 if it had paid no salaries at all to anyone - and that's assuming ticket revenue wasn't affected by that unlikely scenario.
If you don't like that as owner, sell the club. However, you can budget to try to stay in the Championship and retain the £6m-£8m extra revenue that this generates for 2020/21 or you can forfeit it again by getting relegated to L1. You can run up the operating loss in 2019/20 or 2020/21, but in the latter case you reduce the asset value too.1 -
And we are run by Montgomery Brewster2
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Same time they know Roland needs to invest and know that he isnt... How many times did we see players talking about the squad needing more players last seasonsam3110 said:
With all due respect I doubt the playing staff care *that* much about where the money goes, their emotional attachment to a club is to their teammates and the coaching staff, and to a lesser extent the fans. They may be frustrated because the owner hasn't tied them down to big contracts and whatnot, but I can't see someone like Aribo deliberately choosing his next team based on how much or little money goes to Roland! ;-)ForeverAddickted said:
Nah glad he's gone Rangerscovered end junior said:
I actually think he would have done very well at Southampton. If we had to lose him I wanted him to go there. The way they played last year once Hasenhüttl came in would have suited him.Scoham said:
Imagine the compensation that Roland would have been paid had he gone to Southampton, this is Joe's way of sticking two fingers up at him as bet the players know that any transfer fees wont go back into the squad building0 -
Got to be a bloody idiot to choose Rangers over Southampton imo5
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He will start at Rangers and he'll be playing under Gerrard, plus potential of european football (albeit not for very long)Pelling1993 said:Got to be a bloody idiot to choose Rangers over Southampton imo1 -
True, but the SPL is a lower standard than the Championship so i don't think he will improve very quickly being dragged down to that levelValleyGary said:
He will start at Rangers and he'll be playing under Gerrard, plus potential of european football (albeit not for very long)Pelling1993 said:Got to be a bloody idiot to choose Rangers over Southampton imo2
