The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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Why are people talking about the Aussies not bidding enough?
Surely if the deal goes to the EFL then all is agreed?
I can’t imagine the EFL would be willing to do their checks unless both parties signed it off.
Also, if it does fall through (which it won’t), who will be willing to pay £1m for another due diligence given Roland’s track record of withdrawing at the last minute???!!!
He’s an idiot and the football world knows it.
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Totally agree, which is why I think that saying nothing is better than Tweeting it "could" be this week, but it might not be. It's not even as if he's filling the column inches, when it's a TweetStu_of_Kunming said:
Whilst I agree the standards of journalism is the UK can be appalling, we also have to accept thst we are a league one team, I can't imagine we get enough attention to warrant the effort of good, investigative journalism.Red_in_SE8 said:
Is that what they teach at Journalism school these days? I wonder how much of the Watergategate scandal would have being uncovered with that docile approach? It is unarguably the case that over the last 5 or 6 years Charlton fans have being plagued with shit owners, shit CEOs, shit managers and shit players. I think they have also being plagued by shit journalists.Airman Brown said:
It's not an easy business when neither side is willing to go on the record and their versions contradict each other. You either recognise that in what you write or you end up saying nothing, in which case no doubt he'd be criticised for saying nothing.i_b_b_o_r_g said:Cawley gone down in my estimations. He just writes the same thing every other week, but in a different way and throws in a "might" and "could" here and there. He'd make a better weather man imo
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Great post. I'm sure we all wish you a positive future and the club you love helps rather than hinders.GlassHalfFull said:
This is now a game for poker players. The Aussies have the better hand, this being a buyers' market, but RD still has the merchandise. He's using the Aussies' clear desire for CAFC as his trump card against them in the same way that he's always used Addicks' loyalty and love for the club against us. He's actually weaponised our Addicktion - fancy that!!
The Konsa play wrong-footed everyone. RD is a smart guy, and has the further advantage that he can make his own decisions, whereas the buyers are a consortium and decisions have to be discussed and agreed.
RD wants to cut his losses and to save face. The buyers want to save money (you can only spend it once) and to reach the best deal they can with the Bonkers Billionaire - in all their collective years in business it's unlikely that they've ever met anyone quite like RD.
RD will fight for the last cent. Oz are beating the price down. As this has always been, it's all about the bottom-line valuation. Somewhere amidst all the bluff, bullshit and bravado there is a sweet-spot which all parties, not least the many costly professional advisers, are trying fervently to find, to bring this marathon to an end. Nearly there.
And a personal message to RD. Mr Roland, sir, over these past years many unkind and spiteful things have been said about you, but now it is time to take our leave may I offer a different farewell. You and I are the same age - 71 - and the years ahead will truly be special ones. I have Parkinson's and what the future holds is rather uncertain. Your coming years, on the other hand, I hope will be many and vigorous. I wish you good health and the chance to step aside from your hectic life to enjoy years of quiet contemplation. That being so, I know that you will not give a second thought to your quite disastrous stewardship of my beloved football club, but I can only hope that every waking moment of your long years ahead are filled with an agony of remorse over all those poor euros and centjes you have so wantonly - and uncharacteristically - thrown away on the ungrateful CAFC. After all, it's the only thing you really care about. Look after yourself, ok?17 -
It is shameful that a man that has so much money that he could not spend it in his lifetime is happy to sack and ruin the lives of his staff in order to win an imaginary game that won’t effect as much as 1% of his interests. Despicable behaviour.
I hope he dies.7 -
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Anybody going to the ground today to find out what is going on? Has the Trust been in touch with RM? Is there life in Peckham?1
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I did try and warn last week the deal wasn't done yet but no, just a WUM or a beard or some other nonsense.2
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Bit much that. It will effect around 2% of his interests.Redrobo said:It is shameful that a man that has so much money that he could not spend it in his lifetime is happy to sack and ruin the lives of his staff in order to win an imaginary game that won’t effect as much as 1% of his interests. Despicable behaviour.
I hope he dies.
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Well that comment went down well didn't it.Red_in_SE8 said:
Is that what they teach at Journalism school these days? I wonder how much of the Watergate scandal would have been uncovered with that docile approach? It is unarguably the case that over the last 5 or 6 years Charlton fans have being plagued with shit owners, shit CEOs, shit managers and shit players. I think they have also being plagued by shit journalists.Airman Brown said:
It's not an easy business when neither side is willing to go on the record and their versions contradict each other. You either recognise that in what you write or you end up saying nothing, in which case no doubt he'd be criticised for saying nothing.i_b_b_o_r_g said:Cawley gone down in my estimations. He just writes the same thing every other week, but in a different way and throws in a "might" and "could" here and there. He'd make a better weather man imo
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They've never seen it as a race. I reported their comments to that effect on 19th May. They see it as a long term project.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Yet we've seen from their very own sources that some of the delays have been down to the aussies.MuttleyCAFC said:Of course we don't know everything, but there is a clue in your post to why we ought to know who the good guys are here - How you describe Roland as a maniac. Which is spot on!
Isn't that a good thing?
Any delays aren't deliberate.0 - Sponsored links:
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yes it was @RedChaser, sorry had a long day at the cricket yesterday. :0RedChaser said:1 -
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Sorry, may have over cooked that bit.carly burn said:
Bit much that. It will effect around 2% of his interests.Redrobo said:It is shameful that a man that has so much money that he could not spend it in his lifetime is happy to sack and ruin the lives of his staff in order to win an imaginary game that won’t effect as much as 1% of his interests. Despicable behaviour.
I hope he dies.
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I am reminded of Joey Barton’s words on Roy Hodgson. “It is time for someone to take him out into the garden and pull the trigger”.0 -
I hate this thread, I hate Roland.1
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The Saudis bid at least 40.5m. I don't know where they are now though.5
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Remember the time when Jordan Cousins was going to Arsenal or another premier club, yet the discerning eye knew that his close control issues meant championship was the best he could hope for at the time of his transfer.guinnessaddick said:
I can't believe that any premier league team that wanted Konsa would allow themselves to be outbid by Brentford.The Red Robin said:I think @AFKABartram may be right here with his summary. Perhaps Brentford offered more upfront for Konsa than any other club,suited RD, so he sold him.
Konsa has potential but needs to improve so many parts of his game, Brentford could be the making of him.
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Not least that he’s trying to sell a dodgy Ford Focus for the price of a new BMW 5 SeriesLoOkOuT said:I really don't understand how anyone can rationalise the shifting of blame away from Roland on scant evidence. Not after the hell he's put the club through over the better part of the past four years. He's made absolutely ludicrous decisions throughout. All of a sudden, it's not his fault? Of course it bloody well is! He's been dicking the Aussies around, just like he's dicked us around. He doesn't care about anything other than his own mad interests. He wants to sell, but, as always, he wants everything on his bonkers terms. Maybe the Aussies and others could have done/do things differently, who knows? But if this falls through, Roland takes the blame.
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Many thanks for all the kind wishes!! No worries - the Glass is always Half Full, remember .... I am blessed with wonderful support from many quarters but especially a fantastic group of fellow Addicks.MuttleyCAFC said:
Great post. I'm sure we all wish you a positive future and the club you love helps rather than hinders.GlassHalfFull said:
This is now a game for poker players. The Aussies have the better hand, this being a buyers' market, but RD still has the merchandise. He's using the Aussies' clear desire for CAFC as his trump card against them in the same way that he's always used Addicks' loyalty and love for the club against us. He's actually weaponised our Addicktion - fancy that!!
The Konsa play wrong-footed everyone. RD is a smart guy, and has the further advantage that he can make his own decisions, whereas the buyers are a consortium and decisions have to be discussed and agreed.
RD wants to cut his losses and to save face. The buyers want to save money (you can only spend it once) and to reach the best deal they can with the Bonkers Billionaire - in all their collective years in business it's unlikely that they've ever met anyone quite like RD.
RD will fight for the last cent. Oz are beating the price down. As this has always been, it's all about the bottom-line valuation. Somewhere amidst all the bluff, bullshit and bravado there is a sweet-spot which all parties, not least the many costly professional advisers, are trying fervently to find, to bring this marathon to an end. Nearly there.
And a personal message to RD. Mr Roland, sir, over these past years many unkind and spiteful things have been said about you, but now it is time to take our leave may I offer a different farewell. You and I are the same age - 71 - and the years ahead will truly be special ones. I have Parkinson's and what the future holds is rather uncertain. Your coming years, on the other hand, I hope will be many and vigorous. I wish you good health and the chance to step aside from your hectic life to enjoy years of quiet contemplation. That being so, I know that you will not give a second thought to your quite disastrous stewardship of my beloved football club, but I can only hope that every waking moment of your long years ahead are filled with an agony of remorse over all those poor euros and centjes you have so wantonly - and uncharacteristically - thrown away on the ungrateful CAFC. After all, it's the only thing you really care about. Look after yourself, ok?
And it will very soon be time for us all to get involved with rebuilding this unique club - what better task to keep the juices flowing!! "Footprints on the sands of time are not made by sitting down".
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And that wasn't enough for Roland? Or they got sick of his games and walked away?Redhenry said:The Saudis bid at least 40.5m. I don't know where they are now though.
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Probably sent packing by Murray. I can't help but feel The Saudis would complete a deal quickly given the chance.Redhenry said:The Saudis bid at least 40.5m. I don't know where they are now though.
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Can you imagine if the internet didn’t exist?
Fortunately we have fans ITK who are updating us on sites like this and others.
But no ceo, no manager, no signings - and no official word from the club or the bidders on what’s happening to our great club.
They need to update fans now I think.
You wouldn’t even run a Sunday league side like this, just lurching along directionless.1 -
and still Richard Murray sits there watching as its now a real possibility we could go into this pre season with no signings, players leaving, no manager, no ceo, no chairman, no GK coach, no assistant manager, 1st team coach and no direction or hope.
Murray is as bad as KM now for me.29 -
Only now he has been as bad as her before we even knew her nameroseandcrown said:and still Richard Murray sits there watching as its now a real possibility we could go into this pre season with no signings, players leaving, no manager, no ceo, no chairman, no GK coach, no assistant manager, 1st team coach and no direction or hope.
Murray is as bad as KM now for me.2 -
They have one member of staff, covering FOUR professional football clubs, plus non-league, plus all other sport, for two newspapers and a website. I think the Washington Post had rather more resources, but if you think that's a realistic comparison so be it.Red_in_SE8 said:
Is that what they teach at Journalism school these days? I wonder how much of the Watergate scandal would have been uncovered with that docile approach? It is unarguably the case that over the last 5 or 6 years Charlton fans have being plagued with shit owners, shit CEOs, shit managers and shit players. I think they have also being plagued by shit journalists.Airman Brown said:
It's not an easy business when neither side is willing to go on the record and their versions contradict each other. You either recognise that in what you write or you end up saying nothing, in which case no doubt he'd be criticised for saying nothing.i_b_b_o_r_g said:Cawley gone down in my estimations. He just writes the same thing every other week, but in a different way and throws in a "might" and "could" here and there. He'd make a better weather man imo
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Walked because of RD, I guess.The Red Robin said:
And that wasn't enough for Roland? Or they got sick of his games and walked away?Redhenry said:The Saudis bid at least 40.5m. I don't know where they are now though.
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I don't think its a good thing to hang back now. There are senior posts to fill, players to be signed, a pre season to organise and worse of all an incompetent dismantling the club from inside out. We are already in a state of catch up and losing ground day by day. Charlton Athletic is 113 years old and in complete and utter disarray. Time and tide waits for no man and this club is sinking into oblivion now.JamesSeed said:
They've never seen it as a race. I reported their comments to that effect on 19th May. They see it as a long term project.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Yet we've seen from their very own sources that some of the delays have been down to the aussies.MuttleyCAFC said:Of course we don't know everything, but there is a clue in your post to why we ought to know who the good guys are here - How you describe Roland as a maniac. Which is spot on!
Isn't that a good thing?
Any delays aren't deliberate.10 -
That is how it appears to me.MuttleyCAFC said:
It is as if he wants to destroy the club!BR7_addick said:There isn’t a swear invented to date that would do justice for how I feel right now towards the Belgian.
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He never does. The dividends alone on his Melexis shareholding more than cover any losses at Charlton by approximately a multiple of three, maybe more. He's still getting richer every day.Showmetheway2gohome said:How many years till Roland runs out of money if we lose 1 million a month
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