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  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Ramos

    Injured Salah
    Hit the keeper in the head
    Went down holding his face when he wasnt touched

    And he didnt even get a yellow
    Poor from the ref
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    I would have Ramos in my team.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Karius should get the team doctor to confirm that his vision was impaired after the elbow in the head from Ramos just minutes before his first faux pas. For the second giant cock up he should plead diminished responsibility.
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Over 114k people have signed this so far haha

    https://www.change.org/p/uefa-uefa-fifa-should-punish-sergio-ramos-for-intentionally-hurting-mohamed-salah
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,650
    edited May 2018
    Is Klopp a serial loser in finals, lost 3 at Liverpool, and lost his last 6 in a row, hope he wins a trophy next season, just for the style of football he tries to play.

    When I first saw the lineup, Henderson, Milner and Wijnaldum in midfield did not fill me with confidence for a positive Liverpool outcome, when Salah got taken out by Ramos, that fir me was game over for Liverpool.

    I always want a British club to win in a European final, even if they’ve hardly got any English players in it these days.

    What with Stevie G slipping over and Karius having a mare, they’ve not been blesssd with luck in recent years.
  • Hastingsaddick
    Hastingsaddick Posts: 4,079
    paulie8290 said:

    ricky_otto said:

    paulie8290 said:

    Dislocated shoulder he will be fine

    Fractured and his World Cup will be over aswell

    Dislocated shoulder takes 6 weeks minimum, and anything up to 12 weeks.
    In that case
    Russia
    Saudi Arabia
    Uruguay
    All happy atm
    I said on the WC thread that Egypt were my dark horses.....can forget that now.
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Mendonca In Asdas said:

    Is Klopp a serial loser in finals, lost 3 at Liverpool, and lost his last 6 in a row, hope he wins a trophy next season, just for the style of football he tries to play.

    When I first saw the lineup, Henderson, Milner and Wijnaldum in midfield did not fill me with confidence for a positive Liverpool outcome, when Salah got taken out by Ramos, that fir me was game over for Liverpool.

    I always want a British club to win in a European final, even if they’ve hardly got any English players in it these days.

    What with Stevie G slipping over and Karius having a mare, they’ve not been blesssd with luck in recent years.

    Think he has been in 7 finals and won 1 and as u say lost 6 in a row
  • Hastingsaddick
    Hastingsaddick Posts: 4,079
    edited May 2018
    The Organiser said:

    Cracking city for a football trip is Kiev. Edgy but good.

    Hotel rooms were going for £1,000 apparently....for 1 night.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    paulie8290 said:

    Over 114k people have signed this so far haha

    https://www.change.org/p/uefa-uefa-fifa-should-punish-sergio-ramos-for-intentionally-hurting-mohamed-salah

    Have a laugh - The person who wrote that named a player who wasn’t even playing - Manne.
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    paulie8290 said:

    Over 114k people have signed this so far haha

    https://www.change.org/p/uefa-uefa-fifa-should-punish-sergio-ramos-for-intentionally-hurting-mohamed-salah

    Half an hour after i posted this and its almost up to 120k
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  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,365
    Those saying they don't have sympathy for the keeper need to have a look at themselves. He must feel like the lowest man in the world today.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    cafctom said:

    Those saying they don't have sympathy for the keeper need to have a look at themselves. He must feel like the lowest man in the world today.

    Take nothing away from Bale's goal yet as a Defender the one thing you should be doing is stopping any crosses into the box.

    Whoever let that ball get into the box should also be slated as until that moment it was 1-1 and may have been no second mistake from Karius
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    cafctom said:

    Those saying they don't have sympathy for the keeper need to have a look at themselves. He must feel like the lowest man in the world today.

    And so he should.
    If it was a couple of good goals then yeah O would have sympathy.

    But he made two massive mistakes that a keeper playing in a Champions League final shouldnt make.

    The first 1 he paid no attention to were Benzema was

    The 2nd I still dont know why he tried to punch it
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    Ramos is the best defender of the past 20 years.
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    SELR_addicks said:

    Ramos is the best defender of the past 20 years.

    Disagree.

    Ramos defends by being a thug
    Pique and Lahm better IMO
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    ValleyGary said:

    I don’t really mind Ramos. Got a bit of old school ruffing up centre half about him, albeit with some continental theatrics, can score a goal and knows how to win. The blokes won everything there is in football. If he was playing for Charlton he’d be our hero.

    Hope Kane sticks one on him if we meet in the WC mind.

    He’s very streetwise and knows how to push the limits of the laws of the game. It’s all part of the game so I don’t personally have a big issue with it. It is just a game after all is said and done, and it’s not like he’s Muscat or Keane type who you get the impression enjoyed hurting people.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    SELR_addicks said:

    Ramos is the best defender of the past 20 years.

    Maybe the best attacker of the last 10 years.
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,484
    paulie8290 said:

    paulie8290 said:

    Over 114k people have signed this so far haha

    https://www.change.org/p/uefa-uefa-fifa-should-punish-sergio-ramos-for-intentionally-hurting-mohamed-salah

    Half an hour after i posted this and its almost up to 120k
    The power of Charlton Life.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    SELR_addicks said:

    Ramos is the best defender of the past 20 years.

    Rubbish. He’s very decent, even aside from his antics but not that good
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    paulie8290 said:

    SELR_addicks said:

    Ramos is the best defender of the past 20 years.

    Disagree.

    Ramos defends by being a thug
    Pique and Lahm better IMO
    Thug, lol. You’re old enough to have seen some proper hard men Paulie. There aren’t any real thugs left in the game. He’s a sneaky bastard I’ll give you that, and I do get why some people don’t like that, but he wouldn’t last five minutes with the Crazy Gang for example.
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  • CharltonMadrid
    CharltonMadrid Posts: 5,091
    Ramos against Diego Costa is always a great thug/pantomime villain encounter. Both have a huge array of dirty tricks.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    paulie8290 said:

    SELR_addicks said:

    Ramos is the best defender of the past 20 years.

    Disagree.

    Ramos defends by being a thug
    Pique and Lahm better IMO
    Have a look at what he has won....

    He’s not thug - he just knows what it takes to win.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    cafcfan1990 said:

    SELR_addicks said:

    Ramos is the best defender of the past 20 years.

    Rubbish. He’s very decent, even aside from his antics but not that good
    Who is better?

    1 World Cup

    2 Euro titles

    4 Champions League winner

    4 Spanish League wins

    In the FIFpro World XI 8 times which is a record. UEFA team of the year 7 times. La Liga's best defender 4 times.
  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    cafctom said:

    Those saying they don't have sympathy for the keeper need to have a look at themselves. He must feel like the lowest man in the world today.

    I understand AFKA is quite low as well.
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    edited May 2018
    SELR_addicks said:

    cafcfan1990 said:

    SELR_addicks said:

    Ramos is the best defender of the past 20 years.

    Rubbish. He’s very decent, even aside from his antics but not that good
    Who is better?

    1 World Cup

    2 Euro titles

    4 Champions League winner

    4 Spanish League wins

    In the FIFpro World XI 8 times which is a record. UEFA team of the year 7 times. La Liga's best defender 4 times.
    You missed
    155 yellow Cards
    19 red cards

    Edit: thats just league games

    Career total
    233 yellow cards
    24 red cards
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    SELR_addicks said:

    cafcfan1990 said:

    SELR_addicks said:

    Ramos is the best defender of the past 20 years.

    Rubbish. He’s very decent, even aside from his antics but not that good
    Who is better?

    1 World Cup

    2 Euro titles

    4 Champions League winner

    4 Spanish League wins

    In the FIFpro World XI 8 times which is a record. UEFA team of the year 7 times. La Liga's best defender 4 times.
    SELR_addicks said:

    cafcfan1990 said:

    SELR_addicks said:

    Ramos is the best defender of the past 20 years.

    Rubbish. He’s very decent, even aside from his antics but not that good
    Who is better?

    1 World Cup

    2 Euro titles

    4 Champions League winner

    4 Spanish League wins

    In the FIFpro World XI 8 times which is a record. UEFA team of the year 7 times. La Liga's best defender 4 times.
    I would say both puyol and Lahm were better players.

    I have seen Ramos ripped to shreds by Barcelona on several occasions
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,365
    Those saying they don't have sympathy for the keeper need to have a look at themselves. He must feel like the lowest man in the world today.
    paulie8290 said:

    cafctom said:

    Those saying they don't have sympathy for the keeper need to have a look at themselves. He must feel like the lowest man in the world today.

    And so he should.
    If it was a couple of good goals then yeah O would have sympathy.

    But he made two massive mistakes that a keeper playing in a Champions League final shouldnt make.

    The first 1 he paid no attention to were Benzema was

    The 2nd I still dont know why he tried to punch it
    Do you think he doesn't know this?

    Thousands of people made the trip and will be devastated about the result, which he has to carry with him for the rest of his life. He has people on social media saying that he should die.

    You don't have sympathy because, you know, he should have just done better. Have a day off.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    If any other player on the pitch makes a dreadful error, they get subbed off due to their confidence being ruined for the rest of the game.

    Why are goalkeepers treated differently? Karius should've been subbed after the first one. Clearly was shaken for the rest of the game.
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    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344




  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    SELR_addicks said:

    If any other player on the pitch makes a dreadful error, they get subbed off due to their confidence being ruined for the rest of the game.

    Why are goalkeepers treated differently? Karius should've been subbed after the first one. Clearly was shaken for the rest of the game.

    Do they? I don’t remember many players making mistakes and getting hauled off. That would be a stupid thing to do and shows lack of faith in a player.

    Liverpool and Kloonly have themselves to blame as Karius has proven he is not reliable on several occasions

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