The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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In the US it began on election night, 2016 and has not yet ended.cafc-west said:6 -
At one of last season's fan meetings, Katrien said that Roland knows he won't get all his money back - but that quote was on the back of the room suggesting that no purchaser would pay off such a mountain of unreasonable debt.Athletico Charlton said:It will depend on the negotiations but in all likelihood RD will get a % of his debt back as the purchase price of the club and write the rest off.
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Knowing how tight fisted Roland is, he's probably lowered his asking price to £56 million.Ferryman said:
At one of last season's fan meetings, Katrien said that Roland knows he won't get all his money back - but that quote was on the back of the room suggesting that no purchaser would pay off such a mountain of unreasonable debt.Athletico Charlton said:It will depend on the negotiations but in all likelihood RD will get a % of his debt back as the purchase price of the club and write the rest off.
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Is it Roland’s money ? From a fading distant memory of some of the thousands of posts/threads I thought it was intra-group debt that has been building up and that ultimately there is a listed company with multiple shareholders. Can somebody put me right on that if I’m wrong. If I’m right however then it’s likely any recovery will be seen as a result. Also, when is the year end for the company that’s at the top of the tree ?Ferryman said:
At one of last season's fan meetings, Katrien said that Roland knows he won't get all his money back - but that quote was on the back of the room suggesting that no purchaser would pay off such a mountain of unreasonable debt.Athletico Charlton said:It will depend on the negotiations but in all likelihood RD will get a % of his debt back as the purchase price of the club and write the rest off.
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I didn't think they could own 95% of jena?0
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I thought RD owned 49,98%.Cafc43v3r said:I didn't think they could own 95% of jena?
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So is this week now next week and next week now next next week
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is this week last week and next week now this week?1 -
I think you’ll find that week was this weekFORD said:So is this week now next week and next week now next next week
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Think RD owns 95% of Staprix. It means that the debt (£57.7m in mid 2017 and increasing)in the published accounts is owed to Baton 2010 and therefore ultimately to Staprix. IMO no buyer will agree to take on that level of debt. My guess would be that RD will convert the debt to equity then sell 51%+ to the new owners, retaining the balance and benefiting from dividend payments. The new owners might structure the debt to automatically acquire the balance of the equity on promotion to the Premier league. All pure speculation - but I suspect it is the payment structure that is holding things up.Big in Brasov said:Staprix company structure
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Indeed, I think that's correct.GlassHalfFull said:
However, the information I've posted above is from Companyweb.be which appears to be a reliable compny information resource. Not sure what to make of it.0 -
Slight change of theme.
It seems accepted that the new owners will bring in their new manager and all comments are Harry Kewell. Not starting off negative but is that not what we all hated ( among other things) RD for. It’s Luzon, Fraeye etc again.
The manager should be the best person for the job not the owners personal favourite. Just saying!4 -
This is all assuming of course The Aussies will be our new owners that they would appoint Kewell.
Would still welcome The Aussies if they win but personally I'm hanging my hat on RedHenry's mob now they're back in the running.
But whoever wins I'd like to see Bowyer stay for the rest of the season. Couldn't quite get 14/1 as others did but I did still get 9/1 before the Northampton game.0 -
Or he could write off any losses against his Belgian tax liability?cafc-west said:
Think RD owns 95% of Staprix. It means that the debt (£57.7m in mid 2017 and increasing)in the published accounts is owed to Baton 2010 and therefore ultimately to Staprix. IMO no buyer will agree to take on that level of debt. My guess would be that RD will convert the debt to equity then sell 51%+ to the new owners, retaining the balance and benefiting from dividend payments. The new owners might structure the debt to automatically acquire the balance of the equity on promotion to the Premier league. All pure speculation - but I suspect it is the payment structure that is holding things up.Big in Brasov said:Staprix company structure
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Are you allowed to call Katie that?_MrDick said:
Or he could write off any losses against his Belgian tax liability?cafc-west said:
Think RD owns 95% of Staprix. It means that the debt (£57.7m in mid 2017 and increasing)in the published accounts is owed to Baton 2010 and therefore ultimately to Staprix. IMO no buyer will agree to take on that level of debt. My guess would be that RD will convert the debt to equity then sell 51%+ to the new owners, retaining the balance and benefiting from dividend payments. The new owners might structure the debt to automatically acquire the balance of the equity on promotion to the Premier league. All pure speculation - but I suspect it is the payment structure that is holding things up.Big in Brasov said:Staprix company structure
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That's a good point and one for his tax advisors. Not sure about debt 'acquired' in another EU country...but as the parent company is Belgian - maybe..._MrDick said:
Or he could write off any losses against his Belgian tax liability?cafc-west said:
Think RD owns 95% of Staprix. It means that the debt (£57.7m in mid 2017 and increasing)in the published accounts is owed to Baton 2010 and therefore ultimately to Staprix. IMO no buyer will agree to take on that level of debt. My guess would be that RD will convert the debt to equity then sell 51%+ to the new owners, retaining the balance and benefiting from dividend payments. The new owners might structure the debt to automatically acquire the balance of the equity on promotion to the Premier league. All pure speculation - but I suspect it is the payment structure that is holding things up.Big in Brasov said:Staprix company structure
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Well I agree that most of us think Bowyer would be just as good a fit as Kewell as both are inexperienced but any new owner will always have their own ideas and most likely want their own people top to bottom. Hopefully if the Aussies are eventual owners they can see that for the time being at least Lee Bowyer is a decent option but I can understand why that might not fit their plan.rememberbillybonds said:Slight change of theme.
It seems accepted that the new owners will bring in their new manager and all comments are Harry Kewell. Not starting off negative but is that not what we all hated ( among other things) RD for. It’s Luzon, Fraeye etc again.
The manager should be the best person for the job not the owners personal favourite. Just saying!
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I think you’ll find that week was this weekFORD said:So is this week now next week and next week now next next week
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is this week last week and next week now this week?
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In @Redhenry we trust !!5
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@RedHenry - a week or so ago your group were out and beaten by the Aussies. Now they are back in. Whats changed?1
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I don't know who our new owners wil be and how much they will spend on Charlton. But I've definitely decided who I want.
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Bloke in flat cap other side of barrier, talking to people in crowd at front lower west looks a little like the Aussie Andrew Muir. Could be wrong. Maybe others can grab a pic in directors box later. I'm prob wrong!4
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Since when has “being wrong” been a criteria for not posting on the take over thread? Keep em peeled mrkinski.Mrkinski said:Bloke in flat cap other side of barrier, talking to people in crowd at front lower west looks a little like the Aussie Andrew Muir. Could be wrong. Maybe others can grab a pic in directors box later. I'm prob wrong!
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Yeh, if you can throw in some unsubstantiated conjecture whilst taking the thread wildly off topic for half a dozen pages, you are welcome here mrkinski!Solidgone said:
Since when has “being wrong” been a criteria for not posting on the take over thread? Keep em peeled mrkinski.Mrkinski said:Bloke in flat cap other side of barrier, talking to people in crowd at front lower west looks a little like the Aussie Andrew Muir. Could be wrong. Maybe others can grab a pic in directors box later. I'm prob wrong!
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I will keep em peeled! Prob a member of cafc staff. But addicks with good cameras look out for tall, thin bloke in a long black coat and flat cap in directors box.0
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Peaky blindersMrkinski said:I will keep em peeled! Prob a member of cafc staff. But addicks with good cameras look out for tall, thin bloke in a long black coat and flat cap in directors box.
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Couldn't see razor blades in his cap.ShootersHillGuru said:
Peaky blindersMrkinski said:I will keep em peeled! Prob a member of cafc staff. But addicks with good cameras look out for tall, thin bloke in a long black coat and flat cap in directors box.
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South African cap in the directors box, could mean nothing.1
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Is anyone wearing it?cafc_harry said:South African cap in the directors box, could mean nothing.
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