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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,343

    Dazzler21 said:

    An A Licence minimum is required to be full time manager. If Kewell is working towards his pro licence, he already has the A licence.

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    The UEFA Pyramid:

    Level 5, UEFA Pro Licence (focus on how to manage)
    A mandatory qualification for managing in the FA Premier League and UEFA competitions.
    Most candidates complete in 12 months

    Level 4, UEFA A Licence (focus on phases of play, 9v9 games and 11v11 match play)
    Work as a manager/coach in the professional game, or Academy Manager.
    Most candidates complete within 2 years.

    Level 3, UEFA B Licence (focus on functions, phases of play and 8v8 games)
    Find work in Centres of Excellence and Academies.
    You have 2 years, but can usually be completed in 12-18 months

    Level 2, Certificate in Coaching Football (focus on how we coach, play, support and the future player)
    Find work in Football in the Community, local authorities, US soccer camps.
    You have 3 years to complete, but it can be achieved in 6 months. PFA members can start their coaching pathway at this tier.

    Level 1
    Useful for local community work, and can be completed in a few weeks. Not a mandatory qualification, but a gentle introduction.

    How did Karel Fraeye get the gig then, having only manged to come 156,386th on Football Manager 2014 on Xbox?
    He got his A licence whilst part of the coaching set up at KAA Gent I believe.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,722
    Managers

    40.1 Subject to Regulation 40.4:

    40.1.1 all Managers in the Championship must hold a minimum of the UEFA A Licence and be working towards completing the UEFA Pro-Licence within 3 years of appointment.

    40.1.2 all Managers in League 1 and League 2 must hold a minimum of the UEFA B Licence and be working towards completing the UEFA A Licence within 3 years of appointment.

    40.2 Where a Club is promoted from League One to the Championship and that Club’s Manager does not hold the UEFA A Licence, the Manager shall have until 31st July in the following Season in which to obtain the UEFA A Licence.

    40.3 Where a Club appoints a Manager on an interim basis that individual does not need to meet the qualifications set out in Regulation 40.1 above provided always that this dispensation shall not last beyond the end of the Season in which they are appointed. Further, Clubs may not appoint any individual who has already held an interim Manager position at a Club under this Regulation unless and until such time as they have acquired the qualification(s) required under Regulation 40.1.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,659
    So the takeover rumours have dried up and now we have a thread about what licence somebody needs to be a manager.
    Come on Roland just fucking sell.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,839
    What time is the press conference?
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,343
    Usually Thursday for a start.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,343
    Expect further delays... And it'll happen sooner than you think. Expect it today and it'll happen later than you think.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Dazzler21 said:

    An A Licence minimum is required to be full time manager of any professional side.

    If Kewell is working towards his pro licence, he already has the A licence. Bowyer we know to have at least the B licence.

    image

    The UEFA Pyramid:

    Level 5, UEFA Pro Licence (focus on how to manage)
    A mandatory qualification for managing in the FA Premier League and UEFA competitions.
    Most candidates complete in 12 months

    Level 4, UEFA A Licence (focus on phases of play, 9v9 games and 11v11 match play)
    Work as a manager/coach in the professional game, or Academy Manager.
    Most candidates complete within 2 years.

    Level 3, UEFA B Licence (focus on functions, phases of play and 8v8 games)
    Find work in Centres of Excellence and Academies.
    You have 2 years, but can usually be completed in 12-18 months

    Level 2, Certificate in Coaching Football (focus on how we coach, play, support and the future player)
    Find work in Football in the Community, local authorities, US soccer camps.
    You have 3 years to complete, but it can be achieved in 6 months. PFA members can start their coaching pathway at this tier.

    Level 1
    Useful for local community work, and can be completed in a few weeks. Not a mandatory qualification, but a gentle introduction.

    You forgot the Karel Fraeye -5 Licence.
  • Arsenetatters
    Arsenetatters Posts: 5,969

    When there is a void, it has to be filled with speculation. No harm done, Shows we care.

    The Adrenaline rush Lee Bowyer got on Saturday would have been the most since he hung up his boots. Just my opinion but I'm certain that he wants the job to the end of the season, and then see what's on offer.

    Even you guys that have connections with various groups in the take over process DON'T have access to the mind of Roland Duchatelet.

    My fear is that his spite at being slated by the British press and ridiculed by Charlton fans since day 1 for his network and ways of running a football club will result in him being even more obstinate and perverse in the process of selling cafc.
    This is already coming to fruition with this impasse and Duchatelet seemingly playing one suitor against another. Losing one million a month would speed up the proceeding for most entrepreneurs, but our problem is Roland's brain is wired up in a unique way.

    This roller coaster still has more ups and downs to come. Hold on tight.

    I agree about Bowyer.

    However, I don't believe Roland does things out of spite. I don't think he even considers us. His driving force is money and reputation.
  • Goonerhater
    Goonerhater Posts: 12,677
    No sorry his driving force is ego
  • Arsenetatters
    Arsenetatters Posts: 5,969

    No sorry his driving force is ego

    I agree, that's sort of what I meant by reputation. But I don't think he would deliberately be nasty or spiteful. I seriously think that we are so far down his food chain that he doesn't consider us. Yes, ego's a good description.
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  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,354
    Dizzle said:

    Still no chance for the money men to pip them at the post?

    nope
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229

    When there is a void, it has to be filled with speculation. No harm done, Shows we care.

    The Adrenaline rush Lee Bowyer got on Saturday would have been the most since he hung up his boots. Just my opinion but I'm certain that he wants the job to the end of the season, and then see what's on offer.

    Even you guys that have connections with various groups in the take over process DON'T have access to the mind of Roland Duchatelet.

    My fear is that his spite at being slated by the British press and ridiculed by Charlton fans since day 1 for his network and ways of running a football club will result in him being even more obstinate and perverse in the process of selling cafc.
    This is already coming to fruition with this impasse and Duchatelet seemingly playing one suitor against another. Losing one million a month would speed up the proceeding for most entrepreneurs, but our problem is Roland's brain is wired up in a unique way.

    This roller coaster still has more ups and downs to come. Hold on tight.

    I agree about Bowyer.

    However, I don't believe Roland does things out of spite. I don't think he even considers us. His driving force is money and reputation.
    And because of the skilled and innovative protests at the valley and in Belgium his reputation and methods have taken a battering. His reputation is in the gutter any business friends( does he have any ?) Would say jettison this project ASP.
    He and his financial team are trying to recoup the losses plus have a profit. Does he have the acumen to succeed ?
    Don't judge Duchatelet like you would other rich business people; He is spiteful and inarticulate. A dangerous combo.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,839

    No sorry his driving force is ego

    Probably this - although I also believe he is delusional i.e. believes things to be true that are clearly not.
  • redbuttle
    redbuttle Posts: 1,975
    Dazzler21 said:

    Usually Thursday for a start.

    This week it's today.
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,194
    Redhenry said:

    Dizzle said:

    Still no chance for the money men to pip them at the post?

    nope
    Then what are we waiting for. Let's get a bloody move on.
  • Remember that the timeline on any news for this bstd takeover is all driven by fans and rumour so there is no deadline that anyone is working too
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,722
    Dazzler21 said:

    Expect further delays... And it'll happen sooner than you think. Expect it today and it'll happen later than you think.

    Reads like a really shite fortune cookie
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,203
    The “Growing Veg” post is the new takeover thread.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Is this another day slipping past with no news at all?

    :-(
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,254
    Uboat said:

    Taxi_Lad said:

    If Kewell has been promised I'm pretty sure Bowyer will know about it and be aware that his stint was only ever going to be a game or two
    If he's happy with that then we supporters should be also

    That would mean that Bowyer knows for sure who the new owners are.
    I thought a new consortium had appeared on the scene & started DD last wednesday ? In which case noone knows who the new owners are.
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  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    What's everyone talking about, it was a "done deal" ages ago
  • CafcCrazy
    CafcCrazy Posts: 808
    Jesus how off topic are we getting on here, surely the license conversations can happen on the dedicated Kewell thread?
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,543
    CafcCrazy said:

    Jesus how off topic are we getting on here, surely the license conversations can happen on the dedicated Kwell thread?

    sorted for you

  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Old granny soapbox proverb:

    A watched kettle close up never boils
    But if you shut your eyes for a moment
    You end up with a hot steaming face
    And no Zits.
  • iamdan
    iamdan Posts: 2,421
    Darren Purse seen in New Eltham Co-op, not sure if linked.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467

    Stig said:

    thenewbie said:

    It would be mad if Kewell was installed as manager - his only qualification seems to be that he's Australian. He doesn't have any connection to our club and doesn't have a record of success as a manager.

    I could care less about whether a new manager has any "connection to the club." I think this silly policy has set back English football for ages. I want the best qualified and most likely to do well for the job we are hiring for. English football is the only place where fans want ex-players to run their clubs even though data is overwhelming that such has no bearing on success as a manager.

    Now, as to the point "he has no record of success as a manager"... on that I agree.
    It's COULDN'T care less... The only Americanism that makes my blood boil because their way makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

    The data shows it makes no difference to success as a manager. Neither does whether they were a good footballer or not. Following evidence is not "Americanism"... it is being "rational" and knowing the difference between reality and nonsense.
    Think you just got "whooshed" Napa! "Could care less" is the Americanism referred to...
    I've got to be honest, before this thread I never realised that, 'could care less' was a saying used by anyone. I thought it was just a typo because it makes no sense.
    And I've gotta be honest, the first time I've ever heard of it was in the above post.
    Me too......and I lived in California for 3 years, never heard anyone use that expression.
    It's pretty common. It's easy to think people are saying "I couldn't care less" because your brain just fills that in logically. But yeah, as it is, it makes no sense.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,359
    edited March 2018
    Time for an actual rumour
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  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210
    iamdan said:

    Darren Purse seen in New Eltham Co-op, not sure if linked.

    The Mrs usually makes swing by after getting off the train and I confirm no sightings of Purse but I’ve seen Jimmy Bullard many a time in the Beehive..
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    He bought us for a reason and when that reason was shown to be impossible to achieve he lost any interest he might of had. But his interest was never in the club. And now his interest is in damage limitation of the financial kind. The person who lectured us on how we have to let him run the club how he likes jumped ship months ago.
  • Scoham said:

    Time from an actual rumour
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    Be strange if thats the case as doesnt he usually use London City or Stratford International?
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