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The 2017 Summer Transfer Rumours Thread (Deadline Day from page 264)

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  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467

    Chrispy51 said:

    I'm not saying any one system is better or worse than any other but 4-4-2 is the most popular system in the footballing world. It's that for a reason. Any team that cannot revert to that system as and when it's required is deficient in either players or coaching.

    Apart from in almost every top-level team in Europe where a single striker and support players is preferred...
    I think your statement proves my point. We are not and nowhere near a top level team.

    True, although the 4-4-2 is not that frequently used outside the British Isles. And even within them, teams are increasingly moving away from it.

    The latest movement is back to a 3-5-2/3-4-3. I think on the opening weekend something like all but four teams played with a back three. But these things are cyclical.

    Personally, if we were going to change formation I'd think a 3-4-3 would make better sense for the players we have, especially given our quality in depth at CB. DaSilva is very much a wing back, and I think Solly could do a job on the right, or maybe RCC or Barnes with their athleticism. Alternatively, someone like Fosu or Holmes could be tried on the right. Something Dortmund sometimes did last year in their 3-4-3 was play one full back and one winger, so perhaps something like that, especially if Solly gets hurt.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,024
    sm said:

    iaitch said:

    When we won League 1 with Powell we started with BWP and Hayes up front who was then replaced by Yann, what other forwards did we have/use?

    Danny Haynes, Jason Euell and Leon Clarke

    Leon Clarke, an absolute shocking signing. Against Powell's wishes I believe.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Have Arsenal got any players left we can borrow?
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,671

    sm said:

    iaitch said:

    When we won League 1 with Powell we started with BWP and Hayes up front who was then replaced by Yann, what other forwards did we have/use?

    Danny Haynes, Jason Euell and Leon Clarke

    Leon Clarke, an absolute shocking signing. Against Powell's wishes I believe.
    Clarke really didn't get a fair crack when he was with us to be fair to him, not saying he is a world beater but seems to score goals at most clubs he played for
  • Must be some loans available. where is Thomas Dreisden when you need him?
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited August 2017

    sm said:

    iaitch said:

    When we won League 1 with Powell we started with BWP and Hayes up front who was then replaced by Yann, what other forwards did we have/use?

    Danny Haynes, Jason Euell and Leon Clarke

    Leon Clarke, an absolute shocking signing. Against Powell's wishes I believe.
    Clarke really didn't get a fair crack when he was with us to be fair to him, not saying he is a world beater but seems to score goals at most clubs he played for
    You might be right but I still have flashbacks now of him coming on as a sub at the valley and running knees up to his chest going nowhere fast as he tried to chase a ball down. Either the pitch was a quagmire, which it wasn't or someone had swapped his boots for a pair of deep sea diver's, which they hadn't.

    First impressions that day were that he was a donkey albeit one with goal scoring record :wink:
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    Redrobo said:

    Have Arsenal got any players left we can borrow?

    Sanchez and Ox both want to leave
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380

    Redrobo said:

    Have Arsenal got any players left we can borrow?

    Sanchez and Ox both want to leave
    We don't need both. Not sure which is better than Novak.
  • cafc4life
    cafc4life Posts: 4,632
    Charlton have completed the signings of St Truiden duo, Igor Vetokele and Christian Ceballos on 9 year deals. The Pair will sign for a combined £8 million pounds . Katrien Meire, Chief Executive added " we feel that signing these 2 great players will boost us for our top 12 push. When we found out they were available , it was a no brainer in finally spending some money to get the club where it belongs, 9th in League 1. We hope the customers will now be happy"
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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,374

    I actually wouldn't mind adding a Danny Haynes style player now. We miss having a bit of pace up front, someone to get behind the two centre halves. Even just as a plan B sub option

    That type of striker would be ideal and KR has pretty much said that himself.
    But listen, you know what it’s like. Do we need anything? Probably that quick number nine in case we want to change things.
    http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/15497789._What_do_we_need___Charlton_boss_issues_transfer_update_after_Rotherham_win/
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,667
    JamesSeed said:

    Redrobo said:

    Have Arsenal got any players left we can borrow?

    Sanchez and Ox both want to leave
    We don't need both. Not sure which is better than Novak.
    Novak moves like an ox tbf
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,418

    Must be some loans available. where is Thomas Dreisden when you need him?

    Waiting on his exclusive early released copy of FIFA 18 ;)
  • RedChaser said:

    sm said:

    iaitch said:

    When we won League 1 with Powell we started with BWP and Hayes up front who was then replaced by Yann, what other forwards did we have/use?

    Danny Haynes, Jason Euell and Leon Clarke

    Leon Clarke, an absolute shocking signing. Against Powell's wishes I believe.
    Clarke really didn't get a fair crack when he was with us to be fair to him, not saying he is a world beater but seems to score goals at most clubs he played for
    You might be right but I still have flashbacks now of him coming on as a sub at the valley and running knees up to his chest going nowhere fast as he tried to chase a ball down. Either the pitch was a quagmire, which it wasn't or someone had swapped his boots for a pair of deep sea diver's, which they hadn't.

    First impressions that day were that he was a donkey albeit one with goal scoring record :wink:
    I think it was widely known at the time he wasn't fully fit.
  • Viewfinder
    Viewfinder Posts: 4,910
    edited August 2017
    RedChaser said:

    sm said:

    iaitch said:

    When we won League 1 with Powell we started with BWP and Hayes up front who was then replaced by Yann, what other forwards did we have/use?

    Danny Haynes, Jason Euell and Leon Clarke

    Leon Clarke, an absolute shocking signing. Against Powell's wishes I believe.
    Clarke really didn't get a fair crack when he was with us to be fair to him, not saying he is a world beater but seems to score goals at most clubs he played for
    You might be right but I still have flashbacks now of him coming on as a sub at the valley and running knees up to his chest going nowhere fast as he tried to chase a ball down. Either the pitch was a quagmire, which it wasn't or someone had swapped his boots for a pair of deep sea diver's, which they hadn't.

    First impressions that day were that he was a donkey albeit one with goal scoring record :wink:
    Danny Haynes had problems, too. I recall him coming on as sub, sprinting to the action on the other side of the pitch - and pulling up sharp with another torn hamstring!

  • RedChaser said:

    sm said:

    iaitch said:

    When we won League 1 with Powell we started with BWP and Hayes up front who was then replaced by Yann, what other forwards did we have/use?

    Danny Haynes, Jason Euell and Leon Clarke

    Leon Clarke, an absolute shocking signing. Against Powell's wishes I believe.
    Clarke really didn't get a fair crack when he was with us to be fair to him, not saying he is a world beater but seems to score goals at most clubs he played for
    You might be right but I still have flashbacks now of him coming on as a sub at the valley and running knees up to his chest going nowhere fast as he tried to chase a ball down. Either the pitch was a quagmire, which it wasn't or someone had swapped his boots for a pair of deep sea diver's, which they hadn't.

    First impressions that day were that he was a donkey albeit one with goal scoring record :wink:
    Danny Haynes had problems, too. I recall him coming on as sub, sprinting to the action on the other side of the pitch - and pulling up sharp with another torn hamstring!

    Still only 29 but.......



    Out injured.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited August 2017

    RedChaser said:

    sm said:

    iaitch said:

    When we won League 1 with Powell we started with BWP and Hayes up front who was then replaced by Yann, what other forwards did we have/use?

    Danny Haynes, Jason Euell and Leon Clarke

    Leon Clarke, an absolute shocking signing. Against Powell's wishes I believe.
    Clarke really didn't get a fair crack when he was with us to be fair to him, not saying he is a world beater but seems to score goals at most clubs he played for
    You might be right but I still have flashbacks now of him coming on as a sub at the valley and running knees up to his chest going nowhere fast as he tried to chase a ball down. Either the pitch was a quagmire, which it wasn't or someone had swapped his boots for a pair of deep sea diver's, which they hadn't.

    First impressions that day were that he was a donkey albeit one with goal scoring record :wink:
    I think it was widely known at the time he wasn't fully fit.
    Why play him then? As I said first impressions :open_mouth:
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839

    RedChaser said:

    sm said:

    iaitch said:

    When we won League 1 with Powell we started with BWP and Hayes up front who was then replaced by Yann, what other forwards did we have/use?

    Danny Haynes, Jason Euell and Leon Clarke

    Leon Clarke, an absolute shocking signing. Against Powell's wishes I believe.
    Clarke really didn't get a fair crack when he was with us to be fair to him, not saying he is a world beater but seems to score goals at most clubs he played for
    You might be right but I still have flashbacks now of him coming on as a sub at the valley and running knees up to his chest going nowhere fast as he tried to chase a ball down. Either the pitch was a quagmire, which it wasn't or someone had swapped his boots for a pair of deep sea diver's, which they hadn't.

    First impressions that day were that he was a donkey albeit one with goal scoring record :wink:
    Danny Haynes had problems, too. I recall him coming on as sub, sprinting to the action on the other side of the pitch - and pulling up sharp with another torn hamstring!

    Still only 29 but.......



    Out injured.
    Shocking that's he's now playing for Cray Wanderers. You'd have thought that he'd either be playing for a league team (as he's clearly good enough) or retired through injury.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited August 2017

    RedChaser said:

    sm said:

    iaitch said:

    When we won League 1 with Powell we started with BWP and Hayes up front who was then replaced by Yann, what other forwards did we have/use?

    Danny Haynes, Jason Euell and Leon Clarke

    Leon Clarke, an absolute shocking signing. Against Powell's wishes I believe.
    Clarke really didn't get a fair crack when he was with us to be fair to him, not saying he is a world beater but seems to score goals at most clubs he played for
    You might be right but I still have flashbacks now of him coming on as a sub at the valley and running knees up to his chest going nowhere fast as he tried to chase a ball down. Either the pitch was a quagmire, which it wasn't or someone had swapped his boots for a pair of deep sea diver's, which they hadn't.

    First impressions that day were that he was a donkey albeit one with goal scoring record :wink:
    Danny Haynes had problems, too. I recall him coming on as sub, sprinting to the action on the other side of the pitch - and pulling up sharp with another torn hamstring!

    Still only 29 but.......



    Out injured.
    Shocking that's he's now playing for Cray Wanderers. You'd have thought that he'd either be playing for a league team (as he's clearly good enough) or retired through injury.
    Sad really but at least his hamstring issues were genuine unlike a certain Mr M Bent who had his personal sniper sitting in the Upper West called into action if he didn't fancy it after 20 mins :smirk:
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,374

    RedChaser said:

    sm said:

    iaitch said:

    When we won League 1 with Powell we started with BWP and Hayes up front who was then replaced by Yann, what other forwards did we have/use?

    Danny Haynes, Jason Euell and Leon Clarke

    Leon Clarke, an absolute shocking signing. Against Powell's wishes I believe.
    Clarke really didn't get a fair crack when he was with us to be fair to him, not saying he is a world beater but seems to score goals at most clubs he played for
    You might be right but I still have flashbacks now of him coming on as a sub at the valley and running knees up to his chest going nowhere fast as he tried to chase a ball down. Either the pitch was a quagmire, which it wasn't or someone had swapped his boots for a pair of deep sea diver's, which they hadn't.

    First impressions that day were that he was a donkey albeit one with goal scoring record :wink:
    Danny Haynes had problems, too. I recall him coming on as sub, sprinting to the action on the other side of the pitch - and pulling up sharp with another torn hamstring!

    Still only 29 but.......



    Out injured.
    Shocking that's he's now playing for Cray Wanderers. You'd have thought that he'd either be playing for a league team (as he's clearly good enough) or retired through injury.
    Was good enough...
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  • The fastest player I've seen in a Charlton shirt including Romedahl and Pringle. Bournemouth away he was unplayable.
  • willieduff
    willieduff Posts: 986

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  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380

    The fastest player I've seen in a Charlton shirt including Romedahl and Pringle. Bournemouth away he was unplayable.

    Who, Novak?
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    JamesSeed said:

    The fastest player I've seen in a Charlton shirt including Romedahl and Pringle. Bournemouth away he was unplayable.

    Who, Novak?
    Basey
  • Doherty?
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,160
    wmcf123 said:

    JamesSeed said:

    The fastest player I've seen in a Charlton shirt including Romedahl and Pringle. Bournemouth away he was unplayable.

    Who, Novak?
    Basey
    Count Basey?

    didn't know he played football or was still alive?
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811

    The fastest player I've seen in a Charlton shirt including Romedahl and Pringle. Bournemouth away he was unplayable.

    oo not sure about that, Rommedahl was rapid! Wasn't it said he could do the 100m in about 10.2 seconds?
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,244

    The fastest player I've seen in a Charlton shirt including Romedahl and Pringle. Bournemouth away he was unplayable.

    oo not sure about that, Rommedahl was rapid! Wasn't it said he could do the 100m in about 10.2 seconds?
    The man himself laughed off these claims
  • cafc_harry
    cafc_harry Posts: 3,359
    RuMoURs
  • flyingkiwiDK
    flyingkiwiDK Posts: 5,722
    What does Cawley think?