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Charlton vs Rochdale - Post Match Views - 1/10/16
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That was some fightElfsborgAddick said:
F*** it that is the knockout blow, you lot win!Oggy Red said:
Yep, since 20th August.ElfsborgAddick said:
Slade is in a no win situation.WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
Mind you it was our fans moaning and booing his tactics in which prompted him to leave as he felt he took the club as far as he could.AFKABartram said:
He hinted on TV he was interested in Jan 15. They chose Guy LuzonWhenIwasLittleBoy said:Time for Curbs to rebuild the club
He hinted on TV he was interested in Oct 15. They chose Karel Fraeye
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Be careful what you say and to borrow a line from Airplane, my name's not Shirley!superclive98 said:
Yes, we do seem to have acquired that very knack, but there are so many bad sides that, surely, we can't lose to them all?twiggyaddick said:
That we keep losing to....superclive98 said:
The only thing that might save us is the fact that there are so many bad teams in this division.tangoflash said:I predicted a successive relegation in May and I've yet to see any reason to change my opinion........
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Don't tempt fate!superclive98 said:
Yes, we do seem to have acquired that very knack, but there are so many bad sides that, surely, we can't lose to them all?twiggyaddick said:
That we keep losing to....superclive98 said:
The only thing that might save us is the fact that there are so many bad teams in this division.tangoflash said:I predicted a successive relegation in May and I've yet to see any reason to change my opinion........
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So will we be in the lowest position in our history by 5pm next Saturday?0
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Was the last time in the mid 1970's ?stonemuse said:So will we be in the lowest position in our history by 5pm next Saturday?
or did we go lower in CP first season ?0 -
I wonder what young Driesen's computer programme made of today's performance?0
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We're going down if Duchatelet and Meire stay.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Don't care if Slade goes - we're going down if he stays.
Awful game, awful atmosphere. So many anonymous players in our team....0 -
2nd half we won a free kick maybe 40 yards out but central.
Lookman stood over the ball and there was no plan. Not his fault but there was no set piece routine, nothing prepared and no improvisation.
13 league and cup games and we don't have a set piece routine.
13 games and we don't have a formation, we don't have a style of play, don't have a strongest side, we don't have a spine in the team and we don't have partnerships.
We barely have more than 1 point a game ie relegation form.
Tellingly the players stood in the Jimmy Seed Stand end of the pitch and watched Slade depart to a chorus of boos. Same thing happened with Fraeye.
Rochdale fully deserved their win.
They played two up front, pressed us, passed the ball and looked to win the game not bore the opposition to death
Their keeper made a few good saves. I thought the save from Foxes snap shot was better than the pen.
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Slade is clueless , but remember this is our club, there is no wrong or right to protest, but let's ramp it up again.4
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The sad thing is that we've played worse and won.
Rocdale had us Sussed from the first minute. Shameful.1 -
When?Bow_Addick said:The sad thing is that we've played worse and won.
Rocdale had us Sussed from the first minute. Shameful.2 -
Yes the fiver is a joke, there were half a dozen blokes behind me in the east stand, who used to come along, havent seen them in years and they spent the whole game talking about their different trips to america and the grand canyon.. FFs. what was the point of coming.boggzy said:
I was thinking earlier about the poor bastards who took this opportunity to watch a football match for the first time!mogodon said:Football for a Fiver ... there's another load of new 'customers' that won't be coming back. They'd be better off for the club's long-term future to charge £100 a ticket while this bunch are in charge.
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My first game in 3 years ... my wife first game of UK football ... she now understands my heart break. This team is poor. This club is in turmoil. The communication and cohesion on the pitch mirrors the owners absentia. 38 years supporting Charlton and today I saw and experienced the weakest display, impotent mojo, disjointed tactics and basically a Rochdale side that had a manager wearing jeans looking so casual he inspired men with middle aged baldness !!0
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@ElfsborgAddick, I agree that fans generally are far too quick to call for change (except in the case of RD/KM), and I'm not shouting for Slades head yet. But he is one who seems to be unable to learn from his mistakes, which is my point.ElfsborgAddick said:
This is the problem with football nowadays, we all know the Belgians need to p*** off, we are all very upset, but Slade needs to be given time, a lot longer than two months.IdleHans said:
No, he's in a measly two wins out of 11 situation, largely as a result of his inability to set up what should be a half decent team at this level, and to try and win rather than draw.ElfsborgAddick said:
Slade is in a no win situation.WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
Mind you it was our fans moaning and booing his tactics in which prompted him to leave as he felt he took the club as far as he could.AFKABartram said:
He hinted on TV he was interested in Jan 15. They chose Guy LuzonWhenIwasLittleBoy said:Time for Curbs to rebuild the club
He hinted on TV he was interested in Oct 15. They chose Karel Fraeye
Wonder what them same fans are wishing for now?
All very well chucking him out, but as others have said, who the bloody hell would contemplate working with this owner and his circus of incompetents?
I'd give him the season unless there's regime change in the meantime. But he needs to sort out the failings that are clear to many on this board, and quickly.3 -
Strange as it may seem, our performance in this miserable little defeat wasn't as spineless and cowardly as the show against Oldham on Tuesday. We did get forward with a bit of urgency in the last half-hour – but our lack of basic technique is comical.
Our winger gets round the back – and his team-mates are puffing and straining to get into the box. Holmes is our best player, yet he dribbles into a midfield cul-de-sac and is muscled off the ball. Jackson, Crofts and Ulvestad do not constitute a proper midfield: loose balls routinely go unchallenged to the opponents. A shot or free-kick from 20 yards that Kermorgant would have netted is sent sailing over the bar. Novak and Ajose are mere shadows of men.
In the last minute of the Oldham game, Lookman hoofed a corner direct to the opposite touchline and out of play. This afternoon he fluffed a corner straight to the first defender – then 60 seconds later did exactly the same again. Twenty minutes on, from a corner on the other wing, Lookman failed yet again with precisely the same inability. That is unforgiveable.
Wimbledon, Oldham and Rochdale: three consecutive home games and one single point. We are a quarter of the way through the season. Four times 12 makes a total of 48 points – and relegation to the fourth tier.
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Utter rubbish today.0
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Thats the most worrying, a 1/4 gone, think i'm getting bit of dejavu.........Viewfinder said:We are a quarter of the way through the season. Four times 12 makes a total of 48 points – and relegation to the fourth tier.
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The fact is on today's performance we wouldn't even compete in league 4.WE have a non league squad.1
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The point is, its not a non-league squad, far from it. Rudd, Fox, Bauer, Pearce, Holmes, Lookman, Ulvestad, Novak and Magennis would get into most if not all league one starting XIs.1se7 said:The fact is on today's performance we wouldn't even compete in league 4.WE have a non league squad.
That says all you need to know about Slade.
He has had a pre-season and 12 league games and he still has no pattern of play, alternative game plan neither does he know his best team. Its bollocks to be honest.23 -
IMO it's obvious that Lookman is anxious and uncertain about finding his range ..... he's over-hitting and then under-hitting, so it's back to the training ground for you, Ade.Viewfinder said:
In the last minute of the Oldham game, Lookman hoofed a corner direct to the opposite touchline and out of play. This afternoon he fluffed a corner straight to the first defender – then 60 seconds later did exactly the same again. Twenty minutes on, from a corner on the other wing, Lookman failed yet again with precisely the same inability. That is unforgiveable.
The lad is 18 years old and learning his game as he goes. No problem there.
During the match, where's the skipper or manager's input into this - if Lookie effs up a corner, surely there's another player on the pitch capable of taking the next one?
In any case IMO, instead of taking the corner kick, Lookman would be more effective lurking in around the box and feeding off the knockdowns and loose balls.
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Well I cannot forget the cry on this forum for an English Manager who knows our League.1se7 said:The fact is on today's performance we wouldn't even compete in league 4.WE have a non league squad.
Even Curbs commented Russell Slade is a sensible appointment who knows his way around League One - so Slade needs time but he needs to look at his decision making quickly.
I compared Guy Luzon with RS today and my lad commented that Luzon knew how to get the ball forward and on the floor and wanted the ball moved quickly - all positive stuff.
Curbs also commented that MK Dons had kept their players from last season but they have lost as many as they've won.
The problem Slade has is that the squad he has, especially the midfield, is simply not good enough and he needs to be able to play two strikers regularly.
Other than that, everything's hunky dory.
If Lookman goes, we really do have a problem.0 -
Joke owner, joke CEO, joke manager, joke club.
Slade is worse than useless he hasn't got a clue about tactics.1 -
We have played worse and drew ?superclive98 said:
When?Bow_Addick said:The sad thing is that we've played worse and won.
Rocdale had us Sussed from the first minute. Shameful.
Last Tuesday.2 -
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Rudd, 7 crabs to keep the fish happy, Holmes, Lookman, Magennis.
Lookman was the one threat we had. Shame his corners today made Danny Green's look good! Magennis looked tired understandably after ploughing a lone furrow for the two matches prior to today. Again he stuck to his task and again nobody had the mobility to support him from midfield. Holmes was below his best, probably because of the injury mentioned earlier in the week, yet still won us a penalty which a strangely hesitant Jackson tentatively tried to put in the corner but struck it softer than my 4 year old grandson would thus allowing Lillis to make a decent but preventable save.
I love Jackson but anno domini is definitely catching up with him. He offered little or nothing today particularly when wide on the left. As for the other 6 crabs poor, poor, poor yet what options are there on the bench? a goateed midget and Peter Garland's Lovechild. Whoopy fucking doo!
Very despondent after that and with our apology of a midfield I think there is a real danger we will be relegated again.
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Worrying that Slade seems to think the only problem is in the final third, converting chances to goals. A blind pig could tell you that the main problem is a chronically slow, ageing, non-creative midfield who are bereft of attacking ideas and threat. Holmes and Lookie excepted.shirty5 said:http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/charlton/14776966.Fans____response_to_sub_was____slightly_disrespectful_____says_Charlton_boss/?ref=rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Well Rusty, people paid their fiver, so if they are not happy, would you like them to keep quiet?3 -
Read Slade's statement. Then think would Powell have said any of that?2
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The thing is Charlton fans would not have booed a Powell change. So he would not have made a statement like that. Powell is a legend and will always be. Russ or any other manager since with no real afinity to the club won't get the same patients.Weegie Addick said:Read Slade's statement. Then think would Powell have said any of that?
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For Gawd's sake, can someone at these meetings tell her to put them into practice then!guinnessaddick said:
But, they have learnt from their mistakes, KM said so today.AFKABartram said:
He hinted on TV he was interested in Jan 15. They chose Guy LuzonWhenIwasLittleBoy said:Time for Curbs to rebuild the club
He hinted on TV he was interested in Oct 15. They chose Karel Fraeye
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