With Dixon as another option we also don’t have to play 2 up front. Could easily switch to a 3-4-2-1 and play with any 2 of Berry/Dixon/Campbell in the 2 behind the striker. Would also allow Dixon and Campbell to get out wide where they are best
Doubt we are looking to add goal threat from midfield though. That’s what Docherty and Berry are here for. More likely to be looking at a Taylor replacement to compete with Coventry, and then maybe some creativity or physicality (probably the latter as it’s Jones)
Mentions Kanu potentially going out on loan depending on how Leaburn is getting on
Well Hylton still at the club so give him 6 month contract and send Kanu out
Only have to compare their records last season to see Kanu would offer a lot more on the pitch than Hylton.
But what’s the point of Kanu being 5th choice we might as well use Hylton as 5th choice and allow Kanu to get more playing time .. surely makes sense
We don’t need Hylton when Ahadme, Godden, Campbell, Aneke, Leaburn and Dixon would still be ahead of him if we loan out Kanu. He’d be 7 or 8th choice which is a waste of budget.
But at the moment we don’t know if Leaburn will have any set backs so we need Hylton as cover it’s precaution
Other than in a coaching role I cannot see any reason why we need Hylton. I'd rather use any money we have on bringing in someone else.
Wouldn't bother with Hylton , felt more like a mate helping NJ out for preseason than anything serious. We've got Casey and Mbick we can use in the Bristol Street Motors Trophy and no one is going to have 6/7 senior strikers on the books. Would rather the budget was used where we need it.
Casey and Mbick no where near ready first team yet .. we have no need to throw them in the deep end this season these two has could do with loans to Nat league or Nat League South … can never understand why we don’t set up agreement with Welling to send our younger players too ? for the next stage of their development
From Gallagher’s transfer, we will get £180,000 as a solidarity contribution. We will also receive compensation for the cost of his training and education for a season, but I can’t be bothered to calculate that yet.
Mentions Kanu potentially going out on loan depending on how Leaburn is getting on
Well Hylton still at the club so give him 6 month contract and send Kanu out
Only have to compare their records last season to see Kanu would offer a lot more on the pitch than Hylton.
But what’s the point of Kanu being 5th choice we might as well use Hylton as 5th choice and allow Kanu to get more playing time .. surely makes sense
We don’t need Hylton when Ahadme, Godden, Campbell, Aneke, Leaburn and Dixon would still be ahead of him if we loan out Kanu. He’d be 7 or 8th choice which is a waste of budget.
But at the moment we don’t know if Leaburn will have any set backs so we need Hylton as cover it’s precaution
Other than in a coaching role I cannot see any reason why we need Hylton. I'd rather use any money we have on bringing in someone else.
Wouldn't bother with Hylton , felt more like a mate helping NJ out for preseason than anything serious. We've got Casey and Mbick we can use in the Bristol Street Motors Trophy and no one is going to have 6/7 senior strikers on the books. Would rather the budget was used where we need it.
Casey and Mbick no where near ready first team yet .. we have no need to throw them in the deep end this season these two has could do with loans to Nat league or Nat League South … can never understand why we don’t set up agreement with Welling to send our younger players too ? for the next stage of their development
If you'd been following Welling over the past few years then you'd understand why.
From Gallagher’s transfer, we will get £180,000 as a solidarity contribution. We will also receive compensation for the cost of his training and education for a season, but I can’t be bothered to calculate that yet.
Not to be sniffed at in league 1. Lookman and Gomez on top would be brilliant
I think we should send DK on loan to Bromley, AFC Wimbledon et al. I think a league two loan playing regularly until Jan at least would do him a world of good, and for the case of AFCW he would have a big man in Omar Bugiel next to him to help him practice working in that target man - runner set up
Personally think it would be a big risk to loan DK to a L2 club, puts a lot of pressure on the remaining forwards to stay fit especially considering Miles is likely out until Oct and wont be straight back into playing 90 mins, Godden has had a hamstring niggle, Ahadme had an injury in pre-season, Chuks is Chuks and TC isn't even a striker.
Personally think it would be a big risk to loan DK to a L2 club, puts a lot of pressure on the remaining forwards to stay fit especially considering Miles is likely out until Oct and wont be straight back into playing 90 mins, Godden has had a hamstring niggle, Ahadme had an injury in pre-season, Chuks is Chuks and TC isn't even a striker.
Agree, and Dixon settling in. We know what we’ll get from Kanu if we need him to start games. Dixon is moving to another country to what I expect is a much more physical league and under a manager who expects his players to be among the fittest in the division.
From Gallagher’s transfer, we will get £180,000 as a solidarity contribution. We will also receive compensation for the cost of his training and education for a season, but I can’t be bothered to calculate that yet.
He was only with us, for half the season, does that figure remain the same?
From Gallagher’s transfer, we will get £180,000 as a solidarity contribution. We will also receive compensation for the cost of his training and education for a season, but I can’t be bothered to calculate that yet.
Can I ask how the solidarity contribution is arrived at, £180,000 seems an amazing figure for a player who graced our first team for about four and a half months.
I guess there's two calculations happening, what's best for the team now and what's best for Kanu's development. His short time at Southend made a real difference and a short term loan until January (even if it's officially agreed as a season long loan) might put him in a better place to challenge for a starting role. Sitting on the bench isn't going to do a huge amount for him. Miles will probably move on either in January or the end of the season and it would be great if Kanu was able to come in and take his place
From Gallagher’s transfer, we will get £180,000 as a solidarity contribution. We will also receive compensation for the cost of his training and education for a season, but I can’t be bothered to calculate that yet.
Can I ask how the solidarity contribution is arrived at, £180,000 seems an amazing figure for a player who graced our first team for about four and a half months.
5% of the transfer fee gets designated for that and then is split out depending on how long was spent at each club. The higher the fee, the higher the contribution each club gets
With Dixon as another option we also don’t have to play 2 up front. Could easily switch to a 3-4-2-1 and play with any 2 of Berry/Dixon/Campbell in the 2 behind the striker. Would also allow Dixon and Campbell to get out wide where they are best
Doubt we are looking to add goal threat from midfield though. That’s what Docherty and Berry are here for. More likely to be looking at a Taylor replacement to compete with Coventry, and then maybe some creativity or physicality (probably the latter as it’s Jones)
I like docherty but he's a bit more hussle and bussle, someone with a bit more nous in and around the box to compete with Berry would be nice.
Kanu tries hard but isn't at the point where he's regularly troubling defenders at this level. He's also a natural goalscorer but that seems to have disappeared from his game in the first team. Makes sense to send him on loan.
Mentions Kanu potentially going out on loan depending on how Leaburn is getting on
Well Hylton still at the club so give him 6 month contract and send Kanu out
Only have to compare their records last season to see Kanu would offer a lot more on the pitch than Hylton.
But what’s the point of Kanu being 5th choice we might as well use Hylton as 5th choice and allow Kanu to get more playing time .. surely makes sense
We don’t need Hylton when Ahadme, Godden, Campbell, Aneke, Leaburn and Dixon would still be ahead of him if we loan out Kanu. He’d be 7 or 8th choice which is a waste of budget.
But at the moment we don’t know if Leaburn will have any set backs so we need Hylton as cover it’s precaution
Other than in a coaching role I cannot see any reason why we need Hylton. I'd rather use any money we have on bringing in someone else.
Wouldn't bother with Hylton , felt more like a mate helping NJ out for preseason than anything serious. We've got Casey and Mbick we can use in the Bristol Street Motors Trophy and no one is going to have 6/7 senior strikers on the books. Would rather the budget was used where we need it.
Casey and Mbick no where near ready first team yet .. we have no need to throw them in the deep end this season these two has could do with loans to Nat league or Nat League South … can never understand why we don’t set up agreement with Welling to send our younger players too ? for the next stage of their development
..I wouldn’t totally rule out Mbick getting some minutes this season. He’s had a busy summer and is an absolute specimen - certainly has the physical side and we know he can score goals. if he can convert his flat-track bully abilities from youth football to the first team he could be a little x-factor. modern football relies a lot on pace and power and he certainly has those attributes. One to watch
casey doesn’t have the attributes of Mbick but he is a predator in the box. He’ll suit a team that creates a lot of chances so I think he needs another season in the youth setup
I wasn't thinking about league first team mins really for either of them this season , give them decent mins in the BSMT and then look at what loan options might be available. Always a concern with players that score the rate of goals Mbick & Casey have scored at age group level that it won't translate to first team football.
Kanu would seemingly be 6th choice when Miles is fit behind Ahamde, Miles, Chuks, Godden and TC, a loan where we can recall him (ideally this is to the top of the national league) would probably be best for all involved
I think Kanu deserves more than a national league loan. He did well last season and doesn't look out of place in L1
He does, but we can only recall in transfer windows for other league sides, whereas National league we can recall whenever (like we did when he was at southend last year) and with the unreliable nature of our strikers fitness this could well be needed
From Gallagher’s transfer, we will get £180,000 as a solidarity contribution. We will also receive compensation for the cost of his training and education for a season, but I can’t be bothered to calculate that yet.
Mentions Kanu potentially going out on loan depending on how Leaburn is getting on
Well Hylton still at the club so give him 6 month contract and send Kanu out
Only have to compare their records last season to see Kanu would offer a lot more on the pitch than Hylton.
But what’s the point of Kanu being 5th choice we might as well use Hylton as 5th choice and allow Kanu to get more playing time .. surely makes sense
We don’t need Hylton when Ahadme, Godden, Campbell, Aneke, Leaburn and Dixon would still be ahead of him if we loan out Kanu. He’d be 7 or 8th choice which is a waste of budget.
But at the moment we don’t know if Leaburn will have any set backs so we need Hylton as cover it’s precaution
Other than in a coaching role I cannot see any reason why we need Hylton. I'd rather use any money we have on bringing in someone else.
Wouldn't bother with Hylton , felt more like a mate helping NJ out for preseason than anything serious. We've got Casey and Mbick we can use in the Bristol Street Motors Trophy and no one is going to have 6/7 senior strikers on the books. Would rather the budget was used where we need it.
Casey and Mbick no where near ready first team yet .. we have no need to throw them in the deep end this season these two has could do with loans to Nat league or Nat League South … can never understand why we don’t set up agreement with Welling to send our younger players too ? for the next stage of their development
casey doesn’t have the attributes of Mbick but he is a predator in the box. He’ll suit a team that creates a lot of chances so I think he needs another season in the youth setup
They give you different qualities. Personally support Nathan Jones sticking it out with TC over Kanu for a little while longer yet, think he (Nathan Jones) has earned the right to do what he thinks is right.
Kanu is a good, honest young player but he’s far more predictable in how he plays than TC is. I think the unpredictable nature of TC is a big part of what Jones values in him.
When a game is a tight low scoring affair and you need someone to do something a bit special to break the deadlock, TC is far more likely to give you that moment of magic than Kanu is IMO.
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Ahadme
Godden
Dixon*
TC
Leaburn**
Aneke***
Goal scoring mid
Is plenty of options to grab a 1-0 win
*Sparingly
** Once fit
***Until injured
Doubt we are looking to add goal threat from midfield though. That’s what Docherty and Berry are here for. More likely to be looking at a Taylor replacement to compete with Coventry, and then maybe some creativity or physicality (probably the latter as it’s Jones)
agreement with Welling to send our younger players too ? for the next stage of their development
I like docherty but he's a bit more hussle and bussle, someone with a bit more nous in and around the box to compete with Berry would be nice.
..I wouldn’t totally rule out Mbick getting some minutes this season. He’s had a busy summer and is an absolute specimen - certainly has the physical side and we know he can score goals.
if he can convert his flat-track bully abilities from youth football to the first team he could be a little x-factor.
modern football relies a lot on pace and power and he certainly has those attributes. One to watch
casey doesn’t have the attributes of Mbick but he is a predator in the box. He’ll suit a team that creates a lot of chances so I think he needs another season in the youth setup
Kanu is a good, honest young player but he’s far more predictable in how he plays than TC is. I think the unpredictable nature of TC is a big part of what Jones values in him.
When a game is a tight low scoring affair and you need someone to do something a bit special to break the deadlock, TC is far more likely to give you that moment of magic than Kanu is IMO.