I think Jones' comment about Zach Mitchell is more telling than anything when it comes to Taylor: 'he’s aggressive, front-footed and really mobile. So these are people we want to take forward'. Taylor's known for putting in a tackle but I think he's not a blood and thunder type midfielder and I guess he hasn't been able to adapt to the front-footed press like Jones would want. When Edun came on against Birmingham he was flying into tackles and challenging for high balls so he's clearly trying to work the way he's being asked, you'd have to suspect Taylor hasn't been able to change his game in the same way and that's why Edun made the squad and Taylor didn't. I think it's a real shame as I was comfortable with having him as the understudy to Coventry and I think he'll probably go on and be good elsewhere
Can't remember but was Taylor given a squad number?
I think Jones' comment about Zach Mitchell is more telling than anything when it comes to Taylor: 'he’s aggressive, front-footed and really mobile. So these are people we want to take forward'. Taylor's known for putting in a tackle but I think he's not a blood and thunder type midfielder and I guess he hasn't been able to adapt to the front-footed press like Jones would want. When Edun came on against Birmingham he was flying into tackles and challenging for high balls so he's clearly trying to work the way he's being asked, you'd have to suspect Taylor hasn't been able to change his game in the same way and that's why Edun made the squad and Taylor didn't. I think it's a real shame as I was comfortable with having him as the understudy to Coventry and I think he'll probably go on and be good elsewhere
Can't remember but was Taylor given a squad number?
Taylor can actually move the ball forwards. Did anybody see Conor's sideways run across the edge of the AFCW box that ended with a shot that Simon Church would have been proud of. TBF it was one of our few on target.
Sounds like the Georgian GK is signing a season loan with Bournemouth before joining Liverpool next summer.
That leaves the Cherries with five goalkeepers on the books
Mamardashvili Neto Travers Dennis Paulsen (on loan at Auckland FC)
You’d think one of Travers or Dennis will be made available for loan.
I think our odds of signing Ireland international Mark Travers, who is highly highly rated at Dean Court, slim to none. Would love to be wrong on that as he would likely be one of the better keepers to ever touch this division imo.
Travers is an excellent keeper but I expect he'd have the pick of the championship. Someone like Swansea if they don't go back for Carl Rushworth would make a lot of sense.
Cooper to Sheffield United probably wouldn't trigger anything given that apparently Adam Davies failed a medical with us. It also means the Pilgrims will be looking to get someone in.
I agree Travers would easily get a Championship gig ( maybe Plymouth?)
If say Ramsdale or Johnstone go to Southampton would that mean Joe Lumley becomes available.
Are we still looking for a clear number one or are we now just looking for someone to compete with Mannion? For me Lumley would be the latter
Contrary to others, I thought that was a reasonable cameo by Edun, on Tuesday evening.
I think he is a footballer, with lots of pace and energy.
I actually think box-to-box centre mid suits his attributes better than left back.
God I miss Bielik, Cullen, Aribo .
And when we talk about loans, never forget that the first two were loans, although in Josh Cullen’s case it can be hard to remember that as he spent two full seasons with us, was almost ever-present when we managed to injure every other decent midfielder, and personally I dont recall a game when he wasn’t one of the top three performers on the day. But I am sure NJ would acknowledge that.
Moving Taylor on is likely more to do with the fact that we can't shift Fraser but we still need to improve the midfield/other areas. I'm sure Jones would rather shift Fraser than Taylor but there (unsurprisingly) seems to be no takers for Fraser.
More likely to be interest in Taylor which would then open up budget to strengthen the squad whilst still having Fraser on the books.
Cooper to Sheffield United probably wouldn't trigger anything given that apparently Adam Davies failed a medical with us. It also means the Pilgrims will be looking to get someone in.
I agree Travers would easily get a Championship gig ( maybe Plymouth?)
If say Ramsdale or Johnstone go to Southampton would that might mean Joe Lumley becomes available.
Are we still looking for a clear number one or are we now just looking for someone to compete with Mannion? For me Lumley would be the latter
God that list is pretty depressing in all honesty (probably accurate in terms of targets just depressing). In normal circumstances I would be fuming at our recruitment department for what looks like a blunder from the outside, but as has been stated many times, this has clearly been a fucking strange summer in regards to goalkeepers moving around.
I honestly think the pool of viable candidates who would both be considered a defined number one and in a position to where we could reasonably sign them is rapidly drying out (at least English based options, nothing to say that we couldn't be a little more creative here with who we go for).
Cooper to Sheffield United probably wouldn't trigger anything given that apparently Adam Davies failed a medical with us. It also means the Pilgrims will be looking to get someone in.
I agree Travers would easily get a Championship gig ( maybe Plymouth?)
If say Ramsdale or Johnstone go to Southampton would that mean Joe Lumley becomes available.
Are we still looking for a clear number one or are we now just looking for someone to compete with Mannion? For me Lumley would be the latter
Still hoping for one of the Coventry keepers to fall to us. Either Collins or Wilson. Don't think there's been too much Prem Keeper movement beyond Chelsea yet to free any potential targets up. Will Dennis maybe at Bournemouth?
Moving Taylor on is likely more to do with the fact that we can't shift Fraser but we still need to improve the midfield/other areas. I'm sure Jones would rather shift Fraser than Taylor but there (unsurprisingly) seems to be no takers for Fraser.
More likely to be interest in Taylor which would then open up budget to strengthen the squad whilst still having Fraser on the books.
There are takers for Fraser but they can’t compete with the wages we pay and that’s in the Scottish Premiership
I think AMB is one of the better keepers in L1, falls down on command of box and distribution. Mannion is an upgrade. I think we merely need a better U21 keeper than shortarse 18 yo MacLorg as No 3.
I think AMB is one of the better keepers in L1, falls down on command of box and distribution. Mannion is an upgrade. I think we merely need a better U21 keeper than shortarse 18 yo MacLorg as No 3.
Have you seen MacLorg play? I have several times. He's considerably better than the other under 21 keepers that were released.
I think AMB is one of the better keepers in L1, falls down on command of box and distribution. Mannion is an upgrade. I think we merely need a better U21 keeper than shortarse 18 yo MacLorg as No 3.
Have you seen MacLorg play? I have several times. He's considerably better than the other under 21 keepers that were released.
Moving Taylor on is likely more to do with the fact that we can't shift Fraser but we still need to improve the midfield/other areas. I'm sure Jones would rather shift Fraser than Taylor but there (unsurprisingly) seems to be no takers for Fraser.
More likely to be interest in Taylor which would then open up budget to strengthen the squad whilst still having Fraser on the books.
There are takers for Fraser but they can’t compete with the wages we pay and that’s in the Scottish Premiership
Sounds like the Scots have us over a barrel - make low ball offers and then wait until the last moment when we have to get rid of a disaffected player. Given the games being played I'd be tempted to make him go to Torquay United on a loan for next to nothing.
Moving Taylor on is likely more to do with the fact that we can't shift Fraser but we still need to improve the midfield/other areas. I'm sure Jones would rather shift Fraser than Taylor but there (unsurprisingly) seems to be no takers for Fraser.
More likely to be interest in Taylor which would then open up budget to strengthen the squad whilst still having Fraser on the books.
There are takers for Fraser but they can’t compete with the wages we pay and that’s in the Scottish Premiership
Sounds like the Scots have us over a barrel - make low ball offers and then wait until the last moment when we have to get rid of a disaffected player. Given the games being played I'd be tempted to make him go to Torquay United on a loan for next to nothing.
Moving Taylor on is likely more to do with the fact that we can't shift Fraser but we still need to improve the midfield/other areas. I'm sure Jones would rather shift Fraser than Taylor but there (unsurprisingly) seems to be no takers for Fraser.
More likely to be interest in Taylor which would then open up budget to strengthen the squad whilst still having Fraser on the books.
There are takers for Fraser but they can’t compete with the wages we pay and that’s in the Scottish Premiership
Sounds like the Scots have us over a barrel - make low ball offers and then wait until the last moment when we have to get rid of a disaffected player. Given the games being played I'd be tempted to make him go to Torquay United on a loan for next to nothing.
If we can loan him off anywhere while still picking up 95% of his wages, we're still £250/week better off than having him cluttering up the place - and that's without taking into account all the money saved on Irn Bru, haggis and neeps
Moving Taylor on is likely more to do with the fact that we can't shift Fraser but we still need to improve the midfield/other areas. I'm sure Jones would rather shift Fraser than Taylor but there (unsurprisingly) seems to be no takers for Fraser.
More likely to be interest in Taylor which would then open up budget to strengthen the squad whilst still having Fraser on the books.
There are takers for Fraser but they can’t compete with the wages we pay and that’s in the Scottish Premiership
Sounds like the Scots have us over a barrel - make low ball offers and then wait until the last moment when we have to get rid of a disaffected player. Given the games being played I'd be tempted to make him go to Torquay United on a loan for next to nothing.
And how exactly would you make him do that ?
Aren't employees required to do what they are told anymore? Alternatively, we could offer to release him from his overly generous contract - it isnt as though he has offered much in return for his rather large salary. in the rest of the world no one would be quite so generous/polite to a n9n performing employee earning as much as is reported.
Is Alfie Whiteman out of our range? Should be available to loan.
I wouldn't be opposed to him but he hasn't played many first team matches apart from one appearance for Spurs as a late sub ( similar to David Button) and around 30 games in the Swedish league.
Another one to compete with Mannion rather than being a clear number one.
Moving Taylor on is likely more to do with the fact that we can't shift Fraser but we still need to improve the midfield/other areas. I'm sure Jones would rather shift Fraser than Taylor but there (unsurprisingly) seems to be no takers for Fraser.
More likely to be interest in Taylor which would then open up budget to strengthen the squad whilst still having Fraser on the books.
There are takers for Fraser but they can’t compete with the wages we pay and that’s in the Scottish Premiership
Is Alfie Whiteman out of our range? Should be available to loan.
I wouldn't be opposed to him but he hasn't played many first team matches apart from one appearance for Spurs as a late sub ( similar to David Button) and around 30 games in the Swedish league.
Another one to compete with Mannion rather than being a clear number one.
Moving Taylor on is likely more to do with the fact that we can't shift Fraser but we still need to improve the midfield/other areas. I'm sure Jones would rather shift Fraser than Taylor but there (unsurprisingly) seems to be no takers for Fraser.
More likely to be interest in Taylor which would then open up budget to strengthen the squad whilst still having Fraser on the books.
There are takers for Fraser but they can’t compete with the wages we pay and that’s in the Scottish Premiership
Moving Taylor on is likely more to do with the fact that we can't shift Fraser but we still need to improve the midfield/other areas. I'm sure Jones would rather shift Fraser than Taylor but there (unsurprisingly) seems to be no takers for Fraser.
More likely to be interest in Taylor which would then open up budget to strengthen the squad whilst still having Fraser on the books.
There are takers for Fraser but they can’t compete with the wages we pay and that’s in the Scottish Premiership
Sounds like the Scots have us over a barrel - make low ball offers and then wait until the last moment when we have to get rid of a disaffected player. Given the games being played I'd be tempted to make him go to Torquay United on a loan for next to nothing.
And how exactly would you make him do that ?
Aren't employees required to do what they are told anymore? Alternatively, we could offer to release him from his overly generous contract - it isnt as though he has offered much in return for his rather large salary. in the rest of the world no one would be quite so generous/polite to a n9n performing employee earning as much as is reported.
No, they are required to do what is in their contract of employment, which in Fraser's case is to be available to play football for Charlton Athletic.
Not Torquay or anyone else unless he agrees.
IMHO it's a three way game of poker. Clubs will take him but only if we pay some of his wages, we are asking for X% but the other clubs are only offering Y%.
Meanwhile, I suspect that Fraser would take a payoff ala Charlie Kirk but again we might be offering X and he's is holding out for Y, as is his right.
He was given a contract and is entitled to see it out just as we are entitled to hold on to any players registration unless another club offers us the fee we want
I think AMB is one of the better keepers in L1, falls down on command of box and distribution. Mannion is an upgrade. I think we merely need a better U21 keeper than shortarse 18 yo MacLorg as No 3.
I have not seen Mannion make a decent save yet. He seems steady enough but not yet proven.
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That leaves the Cherries with five goalkeepers on the books
Mamardashvili
Neto
Travers
Dennis
Paulsen (on loan at Auckland FC)
You’d think one of Travers or Dennis will be made available for loan.
yeah...Number 12...
I think our odds of signing Ireland international Mark Travers, who is highly highly rated at Dean Court, slim to none. Would love to be wrong on that as he would likely be one of the better keepers to ever touch this division imo.
'Yes, Micheal Appleton speaking"
"Mickey, it's your old mate Andy Scott, I wondered if we could loan a keeper? Mickey? Are you still there? Mickey?"
Cooper to Sheffield United probably wouldn't trigger anything given that apparently Adam Davies failed a medical with us. It also means the Pilgrims will be looking to get someone in.
I agree Travers would easily get a Championship gig ( maybe Plymouth?)
If say Ramsdale or Johnstone go to Southampton would that mean Joe Lumley becomes available.
Are we still looking for a clear number one or are we now just looking for someone to compete with Mannion? For me Lumley would be the latter
More likely to be interest in Taylor which would then open up budget to strengthen the squad whilst still having Fraser on the books.
I honestly think the pool of viable candidates who would both be considered a defined number one and in a position to where we could reasonably sign them is rapidly drying out (at least English based options, nothing to say that we couldn't be a little more creative here with who we go for).
Still hoping for one of the Coventry keepers to fall to us. Either Collins or Wilson. Don't think there's been too much Prem Keeper movement beyond Chelsea yet to free any potential targets up. Will Dennis maybe at Bournemouth?
Should be available to loan.
Another one to compete with Mannion rather than being a clear number one.
Not Torquay or anyone else unless he agrees.
IMHO it's a three way game of poker. Clubs will take him but only if we pay some of his wages, we are asking for X% but the other clubs are only offering Y%.
Meanwhile, I suspect that Fraser would take a payoff ala Charlie Kirk but again we might be offering X and he's is holding out for Y, as is his right.
He was given a contract and is entitled to see it out just as we are entitled to hold on to any players registration unless another club offers us the fee we want