Didn't Cullen and Vetokele both get dislocated shoulders away at Walsall?
I remember it being away to Bristol City and we gave away two late goals. I’m guessing I’m thinking of another game where we got two injuries
You’re thinking of Forster-Caskey and Sam Field and yes, we conceded two late goals, one in the 98th minute, to lose 2-1 after Bonne put us ahead. Good memory though, just it wasn’t Cullen and Vetokele, that happened almost 12 months to the day earlier
Cant see why Edun cant be an asset to the team. I will admit has has looked much more comfortable in CM than at LB though he can offer that versatility. He seems to have an engine on him and isn't afraid to stick a leg in where it counts.
I think he may be the one who plays behind the front two…
Getting the guy over here is hard enough, and could be a figment of someone's very inventive imagination...let's leave where he may or may not play, IF he actually exists that is, until someone sees the guy in the flesh...🤦♂️
I think he may be the one who plays behind the front two…
Getting the guy over here is hard enough, and could be a figment of someone's very inventive imagination...let's leave where he may or may not play, IF he actually exists that is, until someone sees the guy in the flesh...🤦♂️
The Good news is Kaheim Dixon has passed the medical and the work permit will now be applied for.
The other good new is Dixon's form at Sparrows lane has been sparkling with great footwork and agility at... Table Tennis.
The article said he hadn't played any football for I assume, insurance reasons 🤔
The article was published on 14th August but hopefully progress will happen ASAP with the red tape and no obstacles regarding Jamaica's status outside the top 50 football nations.
The Good news is Kaheim Dixon has passed the medical and the work permit will now be applied for.
The other good new is Dixon's form at Sparrows lane has been sparkling with great footwork and agility at... Table Tennis.
The article said he hadn't played any football for I assume, insurance reasons 🤔
The article was published on 14th August but hopefully progress will happen ASAP with the red tape and no obstacles regarding Jamaica's status outside the top 50 football nations.
Not played any football ? Doesn’t that seem to contradict @Swisdom post from a couple of days ago.
The Good news is Kaheim Dixon has passed the medical and the work permit will now be applied for.
The other good new is Dixon's form at Sparrows lane has been sparkling with great footwork and agility at... Table Tennis.
The article said he hadn't played any football for I assume, insurance reasons 🤔
The article was published on 14th August but hopefully progress will happen ASAP with the red tape and no obstacles regarding Jamaica's status outside the top 50 football nations.
Not played any football ? Doesn’t that seem to contradict @Swisdom post from a couple of days ago.
I would assume it means competitive games, not training. Swisdom was talking about training which I am sure he is able to participate in.
Doesn't sound like he has been training as per this section from that report...
“When I spoke with Kevin Rose, who is there with him in London, he didn’t start training, but he was there playing table tennis and he has been keeping active with the other players in the club.
“So he has not started training with the team but he has been familiarising himself with the people and the environment.”
Cant see why Edun cant be an asset to the team. I will admit has has looked much more comfortable in CM than at LB though he can offer that versatility. He seems to have an engine on him and isn't afraid to stick a leg in where it counts.
It is interesting how we see things so differently. I don't think he has any attributes that we need and he is weak.
Moving Taylor on is likely more to do with the fact that we can't shift Fraser but we still need to improve the midfield/other areas. I'm sure Jones would rather shift Fraser than Taylor but there (unsurprisingly) seems to be no takers for Fraser.
More likely to be interest in Taylor which would then open up budget to strengthen the squad whilst still having Fraser on the books.
There are takers for Fraser but they can’t compete with the wages we pay and that’s in the Scottish Premiership
Sounds like the Scots have us over a barrel - make low ball offers and then wait until the last moment when we have to get rid of a disaffected player. Given the games being played I'd be tempted to make him go to Torquay United on a loan for next to nothing.
And how exactly would you make him do that ?
Aren't employees required to do what they are told anymore? Alternatively, we could offer to release him from his overly generous contract - it isnt as though he has offered much in return for his rather large salary. in the rest of the world no one would be quite so generous/polite to a n9n performing employee earning as much as is reported.
No, they are required to do what is in their contract of employment, which in Fraser's case is to be available to play football for Charlton Athletic.
Not Torquay or anyone else unless he agrees.
IMHO it's a three way game of poker. Clubs will take him but only if we pay some of his wages, we are asking for X% but the other clubs are only offering Y%.
Meanwhile, I suspect that Fraser would take a payoff ala Charlie Kirk but again we might be offering X and he's is holding out for Y, as is his right.
He was given a contract and is entitled to see it out just as we are entitled to hold on to any players registration unless another club offers us the fee we want
There is an implied term about performance standards in any contract of employment - has Fraser really been performing to the expected level of ability? Strikes me as an ideal candidate for statutory redundancy pay. Footballers are clearly not subject to the same standards as the rest of us.
There is always a balance to be struck between employer and employee and in general I would argue that the pendulum had swung too far in favour of the employer in recent years, but with footballers earning getting on for a reported near £500k per year in the case of Fraser the balance is clearly wrong. Fraser signed the initial lucrative contract and if he doesn't want to fulfil it and move to Scotland with his family it seems wrong that he should expect to be paid out in full.
Cant see why Edun cant be an asset to the team. I will admit has has looked much more comfortable in CM than at LB though he can offer that versatility. He seems to have an engine on him and isn't afraid to stick a leg in where it counts.
He could probably be useful in the "Bakinson" role where you have teams who like to pass and play and you need someone to throw on to try and break the rhythm a bit.
If he's worth keeping purely on that basis I don't know, personally I'd shed no tears if he left and would keep Taylor instead if I had to pick one of the two - but I don't, Jones does so let's see how that goes.
Cant see why Edun cant be an asset to the team. I will admit has has looked much more comfortable in CM than at LB though he can offer that versatility. He seems to have an engine on him and isn't afraid to stick a leg in where it counts.
He could probably be useful in the "Bakinson" role where you have teams who like to pass and play and you need someone to throw on to try and break the rhythm a bit.
If he's worth keeping purely on that basis I don't know, personally I'd shed no tears if he left and would keep Taylor instead if I had to pick one of the two - but I don't, Jones does so let's see how that goes.
I think we’d probably prefer to keep Taylor, but if one of them needs offloading then he’s the more likely to have suitors. Edun is probably on good money and I can’t see anyone offering him similar
Cant see why Edun cant be an asset to the team. I will admit has has looked much more comfortable in CM than at LB though he can offer that versatility. He seems to have an engine on him and isn't afraid to stick a leg in where it counts.
He could probably be useful in the "Bakinson" role where you have teams who like to pass and play and you need someone to throw on to try and break the rhythm a bit.
If he's worth keeping purely on that basis I don't know, personally I'd shed no tears if he left and would keep Taylor instead if I had to pick one of the two - but I don't, Jones does so let's see how that goes.
I think we’d probably prefer to keep Taylor, but if one of them needs offloading then he’s the more likely to have suitors. Edun is probably on good money and I can’t see anyone offering him similar
That's true. I can't see both going though, at least not unless someone else comes in first or is absolutely nailed on to sign, as that would leave us short on numbers, especially given how intensely Jones likes his team to play.
Cant see why Edun cant be an asset to the team. I will admit has has looked much more comfortable in CM than at LB though he can offer that versatility. He seems to have an engine on him and isn't afraid to stick a leg in where it counts.
It is interesting how we see things so differently. I don't think he has any attributes that we need and he is weak.
I can't work out why we're happy to offload an actual midfielder in Taylor and keep a player in Edun who was so crap in his actual position, we're having to experiment with him in a midfield role.
Cant see why Edun cant be an asset to the team. I will admit has has looked much more comfortable in CM than at LB though he can offer that versatility. He seems to have an engine on him and isn't afraid to stick a leg in where it counts.
It is interesting how we see things so differently. I don't think he has any attributes that we need and he is weak.
I can't work out why we're happy to offload an actual midfielder in Taylor and keep a player in Edun who was so crap in his actual position, we're having to experiment with him in a midfield role.
He used to play in midfield though apparently.
We haven’t seen Taylor in training, whereas NJ has. And when he’s had minutes he looked pretty lightweight didn’t he?
Some of the hate for Tayo is way OTT, he's never been a hider, he looks absolutely shagged of confidence at the moment to me. Hopefully if we can get a run going, being around a successful side will lift him up. Bradley Pritchard was someone who I think benefited from an environment like I described
Cant see why Edun cant be an asset to the team. I will admit has has looked much more comfortable in CM than at LB though he can offer that versatility. He seems to have an engine on him and isn't afraid to stick a leg in where it counts.
It is interesting how we see things so differently. I don't think he has any attributes that we need and he is weak.
I can't work out why we're happy to offload an actual midfielder in Taylor and keep a player in Edun who was so crap in his actual position, we're having to experiment with him in a midfield role.
Edun was a midfielder though. Could argue his left back experiment is over
Moving Taylor on is likely more to do with the fact that we can't shift Fraser but we still need to improve the midfield/other areas. I'm sure Jones would rather shift Fraser than Taylor but there (unsurprisingly) seems to be no takers for Fraser.
More likely to be interest in Taylor which would then open up budget to strengthen the squad whilst still having Fraser on the books.
There are takers for Fraser but they can’t compete with the wages we pay and that’s in the Scottish Premiership
Sounds like the Scots have us over a barrel - make low ball offers and then wait until the last moment when we have to get rid of a disaffected player. Given the games being played I'd be tempted to make him go to Torquay United on a loan for next to nothing.
And how exactly would you make him do that ?
Aren't employees required to do what they are told anymore? Alternatively, we could offer to release him from his overly generous contract - it isnt as though he has offered much in return for his rather large salary. in the rest of the world no one would be quite so generous/polite to a n9n performing employee earning as much as is reported.
No, they are required to do what is in their contract of employment, which in Fraser's case is to be available to play football for Charlton Athletic.
Not Torquay or anyone else unless he agrees.
IMHO it's a three way game of poker. Clubs will take him but only if we pay some of his wages, we are asking for X% but the other clubs are only offering Y%.
Meanwhile, I suspect that Fraser would take a payoff ala Charlie Kirk but again we might be offering X and he's is holding out for Y, as is his right.
He was given a contract and is entitled to see it out just as we are entitled to hold on to any players registration unless another club offers us the fee we want
There is an implied term about performance standards in any contract of employment - has Fraser really been performing to the expected level of ability? Strikes me as an ideal candidate for statutory redundancy pay. Footballers are clearly not subject to the same standards as the rest of us.
There is always a balance to be struck between employer and employee and in general I would argue that the pendulum had swung too far in favour of the employer in recent years, but with footballers earning getting on for a reported near £500k per year in the case of Fraser the balance is clearly wrong. Fraser signed the initial lucrative contract and if he doesn't want to fulfil it and move to Scotland with his family it seems wrong that he should expect to be paid out in full.
Cant see why Edun cant be an asset to the team. I will admit has has looked much more comfortable in CM than at LB though he can offer that versatility. He seems to have an engine on him and isn't afraid to stick a leg in where it counts.
It is interesting how we see things so differently. I don't think he has any attributes that we need and he is weak.
I can't work out why we're happy to offload an actual midfielder in Taylor and keep a player in Edun who was so crap in his actual position, we're having to experiment with him in a midfield role.
Experiment with Edun in midfield? Edun's actual position is midfield, always was.
All his career Edun played as a midfielder.
At Lincoln, his manager Appleton eventually asked him to cover at LB during an injury crisis.
Now Jones is playing Edun in midfield again, his natural position.
Moving Taylor on is likely more to do with the fact that we can't shift Fraser but we still need to improve the midfield/other areas. I'm sure Jones would rather shift Fraser than Taylor but there (unsurprisingly) seems to be no takers for Fraser.
More likely to be interest in Taylor which would then open up budget to strengthen the squad whilst still having Fraser on the books.
There are takers for Fraser but they can’t compete with the wages we pay and that’s in the Scottish Premiership
Sounds like the Scots have us over a barrel - make low ball offers and then wait until the last moment when we have to get rid of a disaffected player. Given the games being played I'd be tempted to make him go to Torquay United on a loan for next to nothing.
And how exactly would you make him do that ?
Aren't employees required to do what they are told anymore? Alternatively, we could offer to release him from his overly generous contract - it isnt as though he has offered much in return for his rather large salary. in the rest of the world no one would be quite so generous/polite to a n9n performing employee earning as much as is reported.
No, they are required to do what is in their contract of employment, which in Fraser's case is to be available to play football for Charlton Athletic.
Not Torquay or anyone else unless he agrees.
IMHO it's a three way game of poker. Clubs will take him but only if we pay some of his wages, we are asking for X% but the other clubs are only offering Y%.
Meanwhile, I suspect that Fraser would take a payoff ala Charlie Kirk but again we might be offering X and he's is holding out for Y, as is his right.
He was given a contract and is entitled to see it out just as we are entitled to hold on to any players registration unless another club offers us the fee we want
There is an implied term about performance standards in any contract of employment - has Fraser really been performing to the expected level of ability? Strikes me as an ideal candidate for statutory redundancy pay. Footballers are clearly not subject to the same standards as the rest of us.
There is always a balance to be struck between employer and employee and in general I would argue that the pendulum had swung too far in favour of the employer in recent years, but with footballers earning getting on for a reported near £500k per year in the case of Fraser the balance is clearly wrong. Fraser signed the initial lucrative contract and if he doesn't want to fulfil it and move to Scotland with his family it seems wrong that he should expect to be paid out in full.
Yes, Fraser signed the contract but so did the club so it binds both parties.
Cant see why Edun cant be an asset to the team. I will admit has has looked much more comfortable in CM than at LB though he can offer that versatility. He seems to have an engine on him and isn't afraid to stick a leg in where it counts.
It is interesting how we see things so differently. I don't think he has any attributes that we need and he is weak.
I can't work out why we're happy to offload an actual midfielder in Taylor and keep a player in Edun who was so crap in his actual position, we're having to experiment with him in a midfield role.
Experiment with Edun in midfield? Edun's actual position is midfield, always was.
All his career Edun played as a midfielder.
At Lincoln, his manager Appleton eventually asked him to cover at LB during an injury crisis.
Now Jones is playing Edun in midfield again, his natural position.
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He was doing the NJ press when he was 17 without being coached into it. Alas cows arse and banjo spring to mind but finishing can be practised.
The other good new is Dixon's form at Sparrows lane has been sparkling with great footwork and agility at...
Table Tennis.
The article said he hadn't played any football for I assume, insurance reasons 🤔
The article was published on 14th August but hopefully progress will happen ASAP with the red tape and no obstacles regarding Jamaica's status outside the top 50 football nations.
Doesn't sound like he has been training as per this section from that report...
“When I spoke with Kevin Rose, who is there with him in London, he didn’t start training, but he was there playing table tennis and he has been keeping active with the other players in the club.
“So he has not started training with the team but he has been familiarising himself with the people and the environment.”
There is always a balance to be struck between employer and employee and in general I would argue that the pendulum had swung too far in favour of the employer in recent years, but with footballers earning getting on for a reported near £500k per year in the case of Fraser the balance is clearly wrong. Fraser signed the initial lucrative contract and if he doesn't want to fulfil it and move to Scotland with his family it seems wrong that he should expect to be paid out in full.
If he's worth keeping purely on that basis I don't know, personally I'd shed no tears if he left and would keep Taylor instead if I had to pick one of the two - but I don't, Jones does so let's see how that goes.
Experiment with Edun in midfield?
Edun's actual position is midfield, always was.
All his career Edun played as a midfielder.
At Lincoln, his manager Appleton eventually asked him to cover at LB during an injury crisis.
Now Jones is playing Edun in midfield again, his natural position.
That's what contracts are.