We have just about the biggest squad in the league. About 30 players. Currently they can’t all even fit on a training pitch match.
This demoralises some who are not only told they are out of the managers plans but are so far out of those plans they don’t even get a look in.
Hence we need to shift a number of players before bringing any new ones in..
Haven't checked but not sure we have the biggest squad.
A lot of our squad are U21 and we only have two keepers.
Otherwise I think we have around 18 or 19 players.
Probably not a lot more than Jones wants, just not the type he wants.
OS has 24 first team players listed. Although Anderson, Kanu, Leaburn & TC are U21 they should really be considered as first team players in this scenario. With Ness & Fraser most likely to be off & Assiimwe and Z Mitchell more on the fringes (for now) that still leaves us with a core squad of 20 outfield players who will be wanting to start most of the games
We have just about the biggest squad in the league. About 30 players. Currently they can’t all even fit on a training pitch match.
This demoralises some who are not only told they are out of the managers plans but are so far out of those plans they don’t even get a look in.
Hence we need to shift a number of players before bringing any new ones in..
Haven't checked but not sure we have the biggest squad.
A lot of our squad are U21 and we only have two keepers.
Otherwise I think we have around 18 or 19 players.
Probably not a lot more than Jones wants, just not the type he wants.
OS has 24 first team players listed. Although Anderson, Kanu, Leaburn & TC are U21 they should really be considered as first team players in this scenario. With Ness & Fraser most likely to be off & Assiimwe and Z Mitchell more on the fringes (for now) that still leaves us with a core squad of 20 outfield players who will be wanting to start most of the games
With 18 playeros in a match day squad, including two GKs, 22 players isnt a huge overload IMHO.
Two players for each position other than 3 for GK seems about right.
We have just about the biggest squad in the league. About 30 players. Currently they can’t all even fit on a training pitch match.
This demoralises some who are not only told they are out of the managers plans but are so far out of those plans they don’t even get a look in.
Hence we need to shift a number of players before bringing any new ones in..
Haven't checked but not sure we have the biggest squad.
A lot of our squad are U21 and we only have two keepers.
Otherwise I think we have around 18 or 19 players.
Probably not a lot more than Jones wants, just not the type he wants.
OS has 24 first team players listed. Although Anderson, Kanu, Leaburn & TC are U21 they should really be considered as first team players in this scenario. With Ness & Fraser most likely to be off & Assiimwe and Z Mitchell more on the fringes (for now) that still leaves us with a core squad of 20 outfield players who will be wanting to start most of the games
With 18 playeros in a match day squad, including two GKs, 22 players isnt a huge overload IMHO.
Two players for each position other than 3 for GK seems about right.
I kind of agree but the balance still doesn't feel quite right to me. 6 strikers for 2 positions is bloated but that's where we have to be because of injuries meanwhile we have 6 midfielders (including Fraser) for 3 positions and we have 3 RWB's and 3 LWB's.
We have just about the biggest squad in the league. About 30 players. Currently they can’t all even fit on a training pitch match.
This demoralises some who are not only told they are out of the managers plans but are so far out of those plans they don’t even get a look in.
Hence we need to shift a number of players before bringing any new ones in..
Haven't checked but not sure we have the biggest squad.
A lot of our squad are U21 and we only have two keepers.
Otherwise I think we have around 18 or 19 players.
Probably not a lot more than Jones wants, just not the type he wants.
OS has 24 first team players listed. Although Anderson, Kanu, Leaburn & TC are U21 they should really be considered as first team players in this scenario. With Ness & Fraser most likely to be off & Assiimwe and Z Mitchell more on the fringes (for now) that still leaves us with a core squad of 20 outfield players who will be wanting to start most of the games
You wont be able to spend £2m+ on a single player as players that command that sort of fee are in the Championship & wont drop down to League 1.
Assuming we got anything near £8m from Gomez then I'd expect most will go on reducing debt with a bit held back for January.
However, we still need a creative midfielder otherwise this summers rebuild will be all for nowt.
If they did, you would be a bit concerend about their ambition.
We have a creative midfielder if he don’t leave who in this system will boss it and create and score goals … Scott Fraser
Fraser doesn't want to be here. His family are all in Scotland now and he misses them. He can't move unless he takes a hefty cut in pay as nobody up there will pay him what we do. He has to choose between his family and his wallet. His lack of action in pre season says it all - he is not fancied and would be best placed being moved on
Apart from Dundee, has there been any interest?
No one in Scotland can afford his wages that’s what the problem so unless we pay a % he not going to Scotland where he wants to move to
We have just about the biggest squad in the league. About 30 players. Currently they can’t all even fit on a training pitch match.
This demoralises some who are not only told they are out of the managers plans but are so far out of those plans they don’t even get a look in.
Hence we need to shift a number of players before bringing any new ones in..
Haven't checked but not sure we have the biggest squad.
A lot of our squad are U21 and we only have two keepers.
Otherwise I think we have around 18 or 19 players.
Probably not a lot more than Jones wants, just not the type he wants.
OS has 24 first team players listed. Although Anderson, Kanu, Leaburn & TC are U21 they should really be considered as first team players in this scenario. With Ness & Fraser most likely to be off & Assiimwe and Z Mitchell more on the fringes (for now) that still leaves us with a core squad of 20 outfield players who will be wanting to start most of the games
With 18 playeros in a match day squad, including two GKs, 22 players isnt a huge overload IMHO.
Two players for each position other than 3 for GK seems about right.
I kind of agree but the balance still doesn't feel quite right to me. 6 strikers for 2 positions is bloated but that's where we have to be because of injuries meanwhile we have 6 midfielders (including Fraser) for 3 positions and we have 3 RWB's and 3 LWB's.
Balance and quality, i agree.
Numbers, about right.
On the strikers Leaburn is still recovering, Aneke, although I don't think its ever been mentioned on CL, has fitness issues, Campbell and Kanu are both young.
You wont be able to spend £2m+ on a single player as players that command that sort of fee are in the Championship & wont drop down to League 1.
Assuming we got anything near £8m from Gomez then I'd expect most will go on reducing debt with a bit held back for January.
However, we still need a creative midfielder otherwise this summers rebuild will be all for nowt.
If they did, you would be a bit concerend about their ambition.
We have a creative midfielder if he don’t leave who in this system will boss it and create and score goals … Scott Fraser
Unbelievable Bexley - next you will be suggesting we go for this great young midfielder, that would fit in perfectly, Charlie Kirk.
He still if played in the right system one of the best mid in league one
Funny then he couldn't get a regular place in any of the teams he was loaned/transferred to. One of those young players who believed all the initial hype about himself and then thought further development actually requires some hard work.
You wont be able to spend £2m+ on a single player as players that command that sort of fee are in the Championship & wont drop down to League 1.
Assuming we got anything near £8m from Gomez then I'd expect most will go on reducing debt with a bit held back for January.
However, we still need a creative midfielder otherwise this summers rebuild will be all for nowt.
If they did, you would be a bit concerend about their ambition.
We have a creative midfielder if he don’t leave who in this system will boss it and create and score goals … Scott Fraser
Unbelievable Bexley - next you will be suggesting we go for this great young midfielder, that would fit in perfectly, Charlie Kirk.
He's still available...
Funny how a few of our recent players can't seem to find a club - Penney, Bonne, Kirk, Lualua.
Almost as if we were signing absolute chaff.
And Hector, yet apparently he's a Championship standard player ,😂😂
It will be good to have a manager and coaching and scouting teams that gets players on the way up rather than down - the jury is still out with the present lot.
You wont be able to spend £2m+ on a single player as players that command that sort of fee are in the Championship & wont drop down to League 1.
Assuming we got anything near £8m from Gomez then I'd expect most will go on reducing debt with a bit held back for January.
However, we still need a creative midfielder otherwise this summers rebuild will be all for nowt.
If they did, you would be a bit concerend about their ambition.
We have a creative midfielder if he don’t leave who in this system will boss it and create and score goals … Scott Fraser
Unbelievable Bexley - next you will be suggesting we go for this great young midfielder, that would fit in perfectly, Charlie Kirk.
He still if played in the right system one of the best mid in league one
Funny then he couldn't get a regular place in any of the teams he was loaned/transferred to. One of those young players who believed all the initial hype about himself and then thought further development actually requires some hard work.
He also didn't fit Ipswich's system and as far as we know there hasn't been interest from any other EFL side as he doesn't fit their systems either, classic Ronnie !
Need a couple of decent prem loans to add some more quality I think. Always a gamble I know but we have had a couple of decent ones over the past few seasons. Any news on that QPR goalkeeper? Seems to have gone quiet on that one.
Struggling to keep up with ongoing transfer developments, but hoped to catch up by going to the Wimbledon match.
I didn’t expect us to be outplayed (by and large) by a League 2 side, and left feeling ver deflated.
Are we set for another year of disappointment, or do we feel that the new players need time to settle in? It felt like we lacked quality, and there’s only ten days left to sort things out.
Can not believe it's the end of September in 10 days 😮
Start of the season 10rh Aug. Yes the window shuts later but surely the hope is to get the approximate starting side sorted before we, you know, start playing actual league matches?
Struggling to keep up with ongoing transfer developments, but hoped to catch up by going to the Wimbledon match.
I didn’t expect us to be outplayed (by and large) by a League 2 side, and left feeling ver deflated.
Are we set for another year of disappointment, or do we feel that the new players need time to settle in? It felt like we lacked quality, and there’s only ten days left to sort things out.
I think we have quality in Berry, Docherty and Godden but it’s just they aren’t quite up to speed yet. Once they’ve had the full pre-season we will hopefully start to see it once the proper games start
Let’s hope so. But there’s only the Pompey friendly left (unless I missed something).
Why would anyone want to sign a low energy, low production player who comes with a big ego and high wage expectations?
Ask Scott!
What’s it got to do with Scott ? Jones has been in charge of all transfers
Absolutely right Ronald, Jones is clearly a man with vision. He played the long game so expertly that he managed to sign Fraser for Charlton two whole years before being appointed Manager then didn't play him at all just to throw us off the scent.
We have just about the biggest squad in the league. About 30 players. Currently they can’t all even fit on a training pitch match.
This demoralises some who are not only told they are out of the managers plans but are so far out of those plans they don’t even get a look in.
Hence we need to shift a number of players before bringing any new ones in..
Haven't checked but not sure we have the biggest squad.
A lot of our squad are U21 and we only have two keepers.
Otherwise I think we have around 18 or 19 players.
Probably not a lot more than Jones wants, just not the type he wants.
I thought someone may pick me up as I was surprised and didn't believe what I wrote... but my post was not actually my words but those of Charlie M at the family day... (I just didn't mention that earlier!).
Need a couple of decent prem loans to add some more quality I think. Always a gamble I know but we have had a couple of decent ones over the past few seasons. Any news on that QPR goalkeeper? Seems to have gone quiet on that one.
I don’t think we need any loads and like the idea of having a season without them.
We have just about the biggest squad in the league. About 30 players. Currently they can’t all even fit on a training pitch match.
This demoralises some who are not only told they are out of the managers plans but are so far out of those plans they don’t even get a look in.
Hence we need to shift a number of players before bringing any new ones in..
Haven't checked but not sure we have the biggest squad.
A lot of our squad are U21 and we only have two keepers.
Otherwise I think we have around 18 or 19 players.
Probably not a lot more than Jones wants, just not the type he wants.
I thought someone may pick me up as I was surprised and didn't believe what I wrote... but my post was not actually my words but those of Charlie M at the family day... (I just didn't mention that earlier!).
Why would anyone want to sign a low energy, low production player who comes with a big ego and high wage expectations?
Ask Scott!
What’s it got to do with Scott ? Jones has been in charge of all transfers
Absolutely right Ronald, Jones is clearly a man with vision. He played the long game so expertly that he managed to sign Fraser for Charlton two whole years before being appointed Manager then didn't play him at all just to throw us off the scent.
I think it’s worth remembering that it’s not Frasers fault that we offered him very good wages when we signed him or that his player profile doesn’t fit in with what Jones wants. His star has diminished in brightness since we signed him and the prospect of anything above league one has diminished with it. Hard to shift him because of the contract he’s on, that WE gave him. Not many league one clubs or his preferred Scotland can match it. Zero chance of Championship interest. None of which is the players fault. It’s a totally unsatisfactory situation but we shouldn’t be blaming Fraser for it.
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Two players for each position other than 3 for GK seems about right.
Or play with the U23's all season.
Numbers, about right.
On the strikers Leaburn is still recovering, Aneke, although I don't think its ever been mentioned on CL, has fitness issues, Campbell and Kanu are both young.
You moan about non-rumour posts but when there is one you make yet another feeble "joke".
It's boring, it's not even slightly amusing and it is hypocritical.
Back to ignore mode.
Any news on that QPR goalkeeper? Seems to have gone quiet on that one.
4D Chess Grand master that man is.
1) how many misspellings 1-5
2) level of irritation intended 1-5
3) name of players to reference
I thought someone may pick me up as I was surprised and didn't believe what I wrote... but my post was not actually my words but those of Charlie M at the family day... (I just didn't mention that earlier!).
Stand by what I said.
Quantity is fine, more quality is needed