Whatever happens with the next few signings this is the best prepared we have been for bloody years, at this stage of the season.
This is what happens when you get the majority of transfers done early. It enables you to hit the ground running come the start of the season. Far to often in the past few seasons we left it until late in the transfer window to get things done and started the season underprepared.
Whatever happens with the next few signings this is the best prepared we have been for bloody years, at this stage of the season.
This is what happens when you get the majority of transfers done early. It enables you to hit the ground running come the start of the season. Far to often in the past few seasons we left it until late in the transfer window to get things done and started the season underprepared.
I think the last few windows our targets were unrealistic and never going to happen, then we are left with panic loans. This window those targets have become realistic, be that a manager to make them want to come or better financial package.
Bishop and Hylton … Bishop got to be worth a deal as he grew into the game he looked really good and will add something to the squad .. Hylton stroke of genius from Jones not sure why 35 is past it but he always been a very good goalscorer in the old fashioned sense and if we need cover for Leaburn , allows us to ease Aneke into the season plus he works with the likes of Kanu , Mbick and Casey then it’s a win win , even come on as sub and score the odd goal ..
We have 7 front line forwards - 2 have never started a League game - 2 have never completed a full League season - 1 Has been unable to contribute for the past 2 seasons
If Jones knows Hylton that well and thinks he has enough left to contribute as a support player and mentor why not kick the tyres?
In all honesty I half expected a 1yr contract for Connor Wickham.
I think Jones has been misquoted a bit regarding loans, I think he's said in the past he doesn't like relying on loans and doesn't agree with loaning young players to play ahead of your own young players. If we dip into the loan market they'll either be experienced players to fill a squad need, or they'll be someone we really like but can't get on a permanent deal.
I don't expect us to have 6 or 7 of them, I think 2 or 3
The way things are going is it likely we will have no loan players at all in the squad ?
Jones talked about loans a while ago, he only wants a few if they really improve the team.
It’s great we’ve moved on from the idea that every L1 club must have 5 loans every season.
Loans serve a purpose at our level but in reality the bulk of them don’t really work out and if you’re using four or five regularly then it means a 50% churn every season. That’s not going to build anything which I believe is what you need to do to progress. If Hylton does come in I suspect it negates the need for a PL youngster which I believe was on the cards. Does mean that two of our four strikers likely to be starting the season are plus 33 years which could be an issue. For no reason I just get the feeling Campbell is going to be an important player this season.
I think Jones has been misquoted a bit regarding loans, I think he's said in the past he doesn't like relying on loans and doesn't agree with loaning young players to play ahead of your own young players. If we dip into the loan market they'll either be experienced players to fill a squad need, or they'll be someone we really like but can't get on a permanent deal.
I don't expect us to have 6 or 7 of them, I think 2 or 3
But unless someone is head and shoulders above us, I won’t take a loan unless the will give us a real, real zest – a real quality
From that we can take we won’t have a Bakinson type loanee to pad out the squad, but he’s open to someone coming in who’d be a stand out player if they become available. Doesn’t want to develop someone else’s young players over ours as you said.
We have 7 front line forwards - 2 have never started a League game - 2 have never completed a full League season - 1 Has been unable to contribute for the past 2 seasons
If Jones knows Hylton that well and thinks he has enough left to contribute as a support player and mentor why not kick the tyres?
In all honesty I half expected a 1yr contract for Connor Wickham.
NJ is a very intelligent manager, while being a bit Obi-Wan Kenobi in how he chooses to share. Was Fraser’s through ball against non-league Dartford a good one - yes, was Fraser aggressive in midfield and maintaining possession - no, he was robbed of the ball on more than one occasion. I think Scott is featuring until sold personally unless he is being kept as Berry’s back up ahead of Anderson and Campbell? Doubt thought, certainly re the former.
I don't see Fraser playing yesterday as being a sign that Jones is thinking of him as an option for next season, especially if Fraser wants to leave for personal reasons anyway.
At this stage of pre-season, it's about getting fit and back into the swing, and it'll include every player in the squad, including those probably unwanted, and even players without a club as a favour. If we want to shift Fraser, we need him match fit to make him attractive to other clubs.
I think it does tbf mate as we all know the bit has got to be aggressive, got to be right at it. Got to show real quality
this has never been fraser while being here and highly doubt it will be just not got it in him ! Get rid
Easy to say “get rid” but I doubt it’s going to be easy. If it was he’d be gone already.
To sell you could be right but hes been out on loan before im sure there will be interest especially up in scotland
We need and can get alot better if we want to progress
the owners have proved they are backing Jones so im sure they would again with an upgrade
My understanding is that Fraser is on very good money. I doubt many clubs in Scotland could afford more than a small percentage of what he’s getting. Loan him out certainly but we’ll undoubtedly still be responsible for the lions share of his contract. That’s a heavy drag on the budget for someone not even playing at the club. Not sure how long is left on his contract but I suspect he’s with us until it expires to some extent.
I think it does tbf mate as we all know the bit has got to be aggressive, got to be right at it. Got to show real quality
this has never been fraser while being here and highly doubt it will be just not got it in him ! Get rid
Easy to say “get rid” but I doubt it’s going to be easy. If it was he’d be gone already.
To sell you could be right but hes been out on loan before im sure there will be interest especially up in scotland
We need and can get alot better if we want to progress
the owners have proved they are backing Jones so im sure they would again with an upgrade
My understanding is that Fraser is on very good money. I doubt many clubs in Scotland could afford more than a small percentage of what he’s getting. Loan him out certainly but we’ll undoubtedly still be responsible for the lions share of his contract. That’s a heavy drag on the budget for someone not even playing at the club. Not sure how long is left on his contract but I suspect he’s with us until it expires to some extent.
I think it does tbf mate as we all know the bit has got to be aggressive, got to be right at it. Got to show real quality
this has never been fraser while being here and highly doubt it will be just not got it in him ! Get rid
Easy to say “get rid” but I doubt it’s going to be easy. If it was he’d be gone already.
To sell you could be right but hes been out on loan before im sure there will be interest especially up in scotland
We need and can get alot better if we want to progress
the owners have proved they are backing Jones so im sure they would again with an upgrade
My understanding is that Fraser is on very good money. I doubt many clubs in Scotland could afford more than a small percentage of what he’s getting. Loan him out certainly but we’ll undoubtedly still be responsible for the lions share of his contract. That’s a heavy drag on the budget for someone not even playing at the club. Not sure how long is left on his contract but I suspect he’s with us until it expires to some extent.
Fortunately he’s only got 1 year left.
That’s at least a positive. To be fair, I expect he’s keen to get away too.
The Jones take on loans is right. We don’t need to become a laboratory for doubtful players from other clubs, or a place where unwanted ballast at other clubs is shipped to.
I think it does tbf mate as we all know the bit has got to be aggressive, got to be right at it. Got to show real quality
this has never been fraser while being here and highly doubt it will be just not got it in him ! Get rid
Easy to say “get rid” but I doubt it’s going to be easy. If it was he’d be gone already.
To sell you could be right but hes been out on loan before im sure there will be interest especially up in scotland
We need and can get alot better if we want to progress
the owners have proved they are backing Jones so im sure they would again with an upgrade
My understanding is that Fraser is on very good money. I doubt many clubs in Scotland could afford more than a small percentage of what he’s getting. Loan him out certainly but we’ll undoubtedly still be responsible for the lions share of his contract. That’s a heavy drag on the budget for someone not even playing at the club. Not sure how long is left on his contract but I suspect he’s with us until it expires to some extent.
Fortunately he’s only got 1 year left.
That’s at least a positive. To be fair, I expect he’s keen to get away too.
He could always take a pay cut if he’s so desperate to get away…tightwad 😏
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It enables you to hit the ground running come the start of the season.
Far to often in the past few seasons we left it until late in the transfer window to get things done and started the season underprepared.
“it was not Scott”
- 2 have never started a League game
- 2 have never completed a full League season
- 1 Has been unable to contribute for the past 2 seasons
If Jones knows Hylton that well and thinks he has enough left to contribute as a support player and mentor why not kick the tyres?
In all honesty I half expected a 1yr contract for Connor Wickham.
It’s great we’ve moved on from the idea that every L1 club must have 5 loans every season.
Or have I imagined that?
We are also signing players from the Championship and not from League One.
A massive improvement on previous seasons.
I don't expect us to have 6 or 7 of them, I think 2 or 3
I know you get stick for your negativity, but I think it is good to counteract the extreme optimism of some
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/charlton-athletic-boss-jones-on-why-he-will-be-trying-to-avoid-loan-signings-in-summer-transfer-window/
The key quote:
But unless someone is head and shoulders above us, I won’t take a loan unless the will give us a real, real zest – a real quality
From that we can take we won’t have a Bakinson type loanee to pad out the squad, but he’s open to someone coming in who’d be a stand out player if they become available. Doesn’t want to develop someone else’s young players over ours as you said.
hungover?
has got to be aggressive, got to be right at it. Got to show real quality
this has never been fraser while being here and highly doubt it will be just not got it in him ! Get rid
We need and can get alot better if we want to progress
the owners have proved they are backing Jones so im sure they would again with an upgrade
At this stage of pre-season, it's about getting fit and back into the swing, and it'll include every player in the squad, including those probably unwanted, and even players without a club as a favour. If we want to shift Fraser, we need him match fit to make him attractive to other clubs.
We don’t need to become a laboratory for doubtful players from other clubs, or a place where unwanted ballast at other clubs is shipped to.