The way I see it is Jones has a plan and May doesn't really fit into that plan. He has said he was under no pressure to sell but there was clearly an issue at the end of last season when May was going for the Golden Boot and not being played. Now I am a great believer in adding up the goals you have in the team and we have taken a lot of goals out of a side that didn't have many in the first place but of course this can be addressed in different areas. We also have talented young players who are a year older and wiser.
It is a case of waiting and seeing. Would I have sold May in our position? Absolutely not, but we have to have faith in Jones and support him in what he is trying to do. The money that gets to him from the deal may indeed help him get the side he wants and we have to hope that side matches what we want.
We won't sign anyone better than May this window. We don't seem to have any interest in replacing CBT despite letting him go 6 months ago. We really struggled to score last season as it is... Can't wait to watch another mid table battle
To be fair, we have no interest in replacing CBT because we’re not playing with wingers any more. If we switch to a lb and lw during the game, it sounds like Small and Edwards can play both positions.
You may be right about the mid table battle, but I’m confident based on the players recruited, the better science department and the most qualified manager we’ve had in years that this will be the best season we’ve had in a while.
We lost JRS after the 22/23 season, didnt replace him / his goals and finished lower in 23/24.
We've lost CBT in 23/24, haven't replaced him /his goals (because we dont now play with wingers ?) and..........
We lost 11 games before CBT left
We only lost 3 games after CBT left. Sounds like we were better off without him.
I’m of course being deliberately provocative there but the point I’m making is that we didn’t need a like for like replacement because he wouldn’t have fit the system the manager wanted to play. Instead they brought in Thierry Small who was far more effective at being a wing back than CBT was.
But it's the goals we are missing. Losing JRS, then CBT.......and now Alfie
Yes we might not now be playing with wingers but that leaves a problem......
WHERE ARE THE GOALS GOING TO COME FROM.
Jeez......its not rocket science. We've now replaced goal scoring wingers with non-goal scoring wing backs. And now we are going to sell our top goalscorer.
And it’s not like we've signed players who can score the goals that we've lost over the last 18 months. I really do hope there is a plan there somewhere because I cant see it.
I’d love to keep May, I really would, but goals scored are generally an indicator of how good a team is, rather than how good one player is:
In 2018/19 we were promoted.
73 goals for, 40 goals against.
In 2019/20 we were relegated to L1.
50 for, 65 against.
The following season we were 7th.
70 for, 55 against.
Then 13th, 55, 59.
Then 10th, 70, 66. Then last season 16th, 64, 65. It looks clear from those stats that barring 2018/19 we haven’t been anywhere near good enough.
Improve the team, and the goals will come, so long as you don’t have an absolute donkey or donkies up front.
I think that we will improve the team, from what I’ve read here at least.
We won't sign anyone better than May this window. We don't seem to have any interest in replacing CBT despite letting him go 6 months ago. We really struggled to score last season as it is... Can't wait to watch another mid table battle
To be fair, we have no interest in replacing CBT because we’re not playing with wingers any more. If we switch to a lb and lw during the game, it sounds like Small and Edwards can play both positions.
You may be right about the mid table battle, but I’m confident based on the players recruited, the better science department and the most qualified manager we’ve had in years that this will be the best season we’ve had in a while.
We lost JRS after the 22/23 season, didnt replace him / his goals and finished lower in 23/24.
We've lost CBT in 23/24, haven't replaced him /his goals (because we dont now play with wingers ?) and..........
We lost 11 games before CBT left
We only lost 3 games after CBT left. Sounds like we were better off without him.
I’m of course being deliberately provocative there but the point I’m making is that we didn’t need a like for like replacement because he wouldn’t have fit the system the manager wanted to play. Instead they brought in Thierry Small who was far more effective at being a wing back than CBT was.
But it's the goals we are missing. Losing JRS, then CBT.......and now Alfie
Yes we might not now be playing with wingers but that leaves a problem......
WHERE ARE THE GOALS GOING TO COME FROM.
Jeez......its not rocket science. We've now replaced goal scoring wingers with non-goal scoring wing backs. And now we are going to sell our top goalscorer.
And it’s not like we've signed players who can score the goals that we've lost over the last 18 months. I really do hope there is a plan there somewhere because I cant see it.
I’d love to keep May, I really would, but goals scored are generally an indicator of how good a team is, rather than how good one player is:
In 2018/19 we were promoted.
73 goals for, 40 goals against.
In 2019/20 we were relegated to L1.
50 for, 65 against.
The following season we were 7th.
70 for, 55 against.
Then 13th, 55, 59.
Then 10th, 70, 66. Then last season 16th, 64, 65. It looks clear from those stats that barring 2018/19 we haven’t been anywhere near good enough.
Improve the team, and the goals will come, so long as you don’t have an absolute donkey or donkies up front.
I think that we will improve the team, from what I’ve read here at least.
5 clean sheets in 46 games is the main reason why we finished 16th in League One
We won't sign anyone better than May this window. We don't seem to have any interest in replacing CBT despite letting him go 6 months ago. We really struggled to score last season as it is... Can't wait to watch another mid table battle
To be fair, we have no interest in replacing CBT because we’re not playing with wingers any more. If we switch to a lb and lw during the game, it sounds like Small and Edwards can play both positions.
You may be right about the mid table battle, but I’m confident based on the players recruited, the better science department and the most qualified manager we’ve had in years that this will be the best season we’ve had in a while.
We lost JRS after the 22/23 season, didnt replace him / his goals and finished lower in 23/24.
We've lost CBT in 23/24, haven't replaced him /his goals (because we dont now play with wingers ?) and..........
We lost 11 games before CBT left
We only lost 3 games after CBT left. Sounds like we were better off without him.
I’m of course being deliberately provocative there but the point I’m making is that we didn’t need a like for like replacement because he wouldn’t have fit the system the manager wanted to play. Instead they brought in Thierry Small who was far more effective at being a wing back than CBT was.
But it's the goals we are missing. Losing JRS, then CBT.......and now Alfie
Yes we might not now be playing with wingers but that leaves a problem......
WHERE ARE THE GOALS GOING TO COME FROM.
Jeez......its not rocket science. We've now replaced goal scoring wingers with non-goal scoring wing backs. And now we are going to sell our top goalscorer.
And it’s not like we've signed players who can score the goals that we've lost over the last 18 months. I really do hope there is a plan there somewhere because I cant see it.
I’d love to keep May, I really would, but goals scored are generally an indicator of how good a team is, rather than how good one player is:
In 2018/19 we were promoted.
73 goals for, 40 goals against.
In 2019/20 we were relegated to L1.
50 for, 65 against.
The following season we were 7th.
70 for, 55 against.
Then 13th, 55, 59.
Then 10th, 70, 66. Then last season 16th, 64, 65. It looks clear from those stats that barring 2018/19 we haven’t been anywhere near good enough.
Improve the team, and the goals will come, so long as you don’t have an absolute donkey or donkies up front.
I think that we will improve the team, from what I’ve read here at least.
5 clean sheets in 46 games is the main reason why we finished 16th in League One
We let in 2+ goals a league game on 19 occasions
Scoring goals was not the problem
It could be this coming season
Yes, but underlying that was the fact that the team wasn’t good enough.
We won't sign anyone better than May this window. We don't seem to have any interest in replacing CBT despite letting him go 6 months ago. We really struggled to score last season as it is... Can't wait to watch another mid table battle
To be fair, we have no interest in replacing CBT because we’re not playing with wingers any more. If we switch to a lb and lw during the game, it sounds like Small and Edwards can play both positions.
You may be right about the mid table battle, but I’m confident based on the players recruited, the better science department and the most qualified manager we’ve had in years that this will be the best season we’ve had in a while.
We lost JRS after the 22/23 season, didnt replace him / his goals and finished lower in 23/24.
We've lost CBT in 23/24, haven't replaced him /his goals (because we dont now play with wingers ?) and..........
We lost 11 games before CBT left
We only lost 3 games after CBT left. Sounds like we were better off without him.
I’m of course being deliberately provocative there but the point I’m making is that we didn’t need a like for like replacement because he wouldn’t have fit the system the manager wanted to play. Instead they brought in Thierry Small who was far more effective at being a wing back than CBT was.
But it's the goals we are missing. Losing JRS, then CBT.......and now Alfie
Yes we might not now be playing with wingers but that leaves a problem......
WHERE ARE THE GOALS GOING TO COME FROM.
Jeez......its not rocket science. We've now replaced goal scoring wingers with non-goal scoring wing backs. And now we are going to sell our top goalscorer.
And it’s not like we've signed players who can score the goals that we've lost over the last 18 months. I really do hope there is a plan there somewhere because I cant see it.
I’d love to keep May, I really would, but goals scored are generally an indicator of how good a team is, rather than how good one player is:
In 2018/19 we were promoted.
73 goals for, 40 goals against.
In 2019/20 we were relegated to L1.
50 for, 65 against.
The following season we were 7th.
70 for, 55 against.
Then 13th, 55, 59.
Then 10th, 70, 66. Then last season 16th, 64, 65. It looks clear from those stats that barring 2018/19 we haven’t been anywhere near good enough.
Improve the team, and the goals will come, so long as you don’t have an absolute donkey or donkies up front.
I think that we will improve the team, from what I’ve read here at least.
5 clean sheets in 46 games is the main reason why we finished 16th in League One
We let in 2+ goals a league game on 19 occasions
Scoring goals was not the problem
It could be this coming season
Yes, but underlying that was the fact that the team wasn’t good enough.
Hence why we finished 16th and the lack of clean sheets
We won't sign anyone better than May this window. We don't seem to have any interest in replacing CBT despite letting him go 6 months ago. We really struggled to score last season as it is... Can't wait to watch another mid table battle
To be fair, we have no interest in replacing CBT because we’re not playing with wingers any more. If we switch to a lb and lw during the game, it sounds like Small and Edwards can play both positions.
You may be right about the mid table battle, but I’m confident based on the players recruited, the better science department and the most qualified manager we’ve had in years that this will be the best season we’ve had in a while.
We lost JRS after the 22/23 season, didnt replace him / his goals and finished lower in 23/24.
We've lost CBT in 23/24, haven't replaced him /his goals (because we dont now play with wingers ?) and..........
We lost 11 games before CBT left
We only lost 3 games after CBT left. Sounds like we were better off without him.
I’m of course being deliberately provocative there but the point I’m making is that we didn’t need a like for like replacement because he wouldn’t have fit the system the manager wanted to play. Instead they brought in Thierry Small who was far more effective at being a wing back than CBT was.
But it's the goals we are missing. Losing JRS, then CBT.......and now Alfie
Yes we might not now be playing with wingers but that leaves a problem......
WHERE ARE THE GOALS GOING TO COME FROM.
Jeez......its not rocket science. We've now replaced goal scoring wingers with non-goal scoring wing backs. And now we are going to sell our top goalscorer.
And it’s not like we've signed players who can score the goals that we've lost over the last 18 months. I really do hope there is a plan there somewhere because I cant see it.
I’d love to keep May, I really would, but goals scored are generally an indicator of how good a team is, rather than how good one player is:
In 2018/19 we were promoted.
73 goals for, 40 goals against.
In 2019/20 we were relegated to L1.
50 for, 65 against.
The following season we were 7th.
70 for, 55 against.
Then 13th, 55, 59.
Then 10th, 70, 66. Then last season 16th, 64, 65. It looks clear from those stats that barring 2018/19 we haven’t been anywhere near good enough.
Improve the team, and the goals will come, so long as you don’t have an absolute donkey or donkies up front.
I think that we will improve the team, from what I’ve read here at least.
5 clean sheets in 46 games is the main reason why we finished 16th in League One
We let in 2+ goals a league game on 19 occasions
Scoring goals was not the problem
It could be this coming season
Yes, but underlying that was the fact that the team wasn’t good enough.
Hence why we finished 16th and the lack of clean sheets
Swisdom said: they both loved it here and wanted to stay here but it wasn’t to be. I think there may be personal reasons playing a part in this too but that’s none of anyone’s business.
he gets a move, keeps his family close by, works for an old boss he admires, gets a pay rise and his wife gets more support for their kids. Maybe a player is doing what’s right for his family and himself!
I like how the first post makes it sound like a forced move and the second like it's a personal choice.
Huddersfield want May because Duff has asked them to go get him due to there previous working relationship. That doesn't mean there aren't other goal scorers out there that we can look at.
I imagine you'll find the Jones will want the team contributing goals so we aren't relying on one player to bang 20+ in. If Kanu/Adhame(?) and Leaburn get 10+ each with Godden potentially and Aneke chipping in that's a start then we have a midfield who are being engineered to chip in with goals.
If we had a better team for the sake of selling one man then that can't be a bad thing.
It's very clear. We don't have to sell May. Even if Jones doesn't rate him. He could be massive for us as a sub.
The reality is, the new owners are like all the others. They speak well but are not prepared to invest to get out of this God forsaken league.
Jones has to sell May to improve the team, but promotion next season is now off the agenda - again!!
Because May got us promoted last season didn’t he? the over reaction from some fans is ridiculous. Until we see what our squad looks like by the first game of the season or even by the end of the window how do we know promotion is off the agenda.
Honestly now, this forum is full of adults....players come and go! There is nothing that can be done and you might not like it but you have to get on with it.
We have to see what the club up there sleeve. It might surprise us.
Either way, I am sure NJ has a plan and for now, that's good enough for me.
What is all this snobbery about how an adult should feel over Charlton related activity?
I spend a ridiculous amount of money following and watching Charlton, players like May and Dobson make those drives and shit journies home a bit more bearable.
If people spend their hard earned, and are sacrificing their time and money to follow this club, it's perfectly acceptable for people to be pissed off when the club makes poor decisions.
This lethargic approach of 'crying' 'grown adults' 'bed wetters' etc is a complete piss take. It's fans who give a shit about the team venting, all the sniping is proper frustrating to read.
Yeah I have to say it's getting pretty tiresome that whenever people on this board show passion for the club or one of its players, they get accused of bed wetting, crying, not being a grown man, etc.
It's called having a passion. We're not armchair Man Utd fans. In Argentina, people cry when they score a goal!
If you prefer to support from a more distanced place, by all means, but I don't see any need to try and humiliate others fans who are more invested.
There’s nothing dispassionate about taking the opposite approach to all this. I have watched almost every Charlton men’s, women’s, youth games that I possibly can. I have plenty of passion for CAFC.
Regarding what @Braziliance about the club making “poor decisions”. On the surface it does seem bonkers, but no one knows yet whether it’s a poor decision or a stroke of genius. Would it still be a poor decision if we get promoted and Huddersfield don’t?
It’s been quite clear from March / April that Jones hasn’t fancied Alfie. We don’t know why and I doubt we ever will. But he is the manager and he will live with the consequences of his decisions.
Everyone six months ago hated the model of players being forced on a manager and wanted the manager to be able to choose his squad. Now we have a manager with the remit to do it and the same people are upset because the manager doesn’t want the striker every fan loves.
I doubt if Jones will last the season if we are not challenging.
Same. I think we’ll be up there, with or without Alfie.
Based on what? Can only be pure hope at this point surely, as the squad is nowhere near where it needs to be.
The fact we finished the season strong and signing some good players and just putting the right systems in place behind the scenes . I think it’s a good time to be following Charlton with or with Alfie May.
Are you on commission to write this unrelenting drivel in support of this joke SMT? Have some pride!
Have some pride for backing the club and the manager ? Yeah that’s what I’m doing so stop talking waffle , I think the smt have done a good job since they’ve came in apart from a few poor decisions . We’re actually being run like a proper football club and that’s what people have been asking for since Roland . Carry on being negative about every little thing sad little man.
You’re either delusional or on the payroll. Worst season for 98 years mate, it’s embarrassing.
Alfies brother, and parents are in West Malling/Kings Hill area
Alfie was home for about an hour last week (Tuesday or Wednesday) and I heard him putting some stuff in the car. Then the kids and Lauren got in and they left and haven’t been home since so I was surprised to see him playing cricket in the area last weekend as I assumed they were up north.
their house is back on the market too so I figured last week this would be the outcome but didn’t want to say as it’s not my place.
they both loved it here and wanted to stay here but it wasn’t to be. I think there may be personal reasons playing a part in this too but that’s none of anyone’s business.
Okay, I’m not being funny but am I honestly the only one seeing how contradictory and ridiculous this is? Maybe I am I don’t know and maybe it’s because we live in a world where everyone wants to know more and more about things even if there isn’t anything more to know if it’s not to do with them. We’ve become a desperate society.
Saying it’s not anyone’s business whilst also telling everyone the name of his wife, where they live, where roughly his brother and parents live, previously uploading a photo of their home, saying they haven’t been back home for a week and whatever else over however long it’s been, whilst also saying you didn’t want to say as it’s not your place is simply an astounding level of hypocrisy and ignorance. Even if he wasn’t moving to Huddersfield, which it looks as though he is, I wouldn’t blame him he was instead looking to move away, even if you helped him find this place, as all of his business is aired on a fans forum. But it’s not anyone’s business 😅
Fully anticipate backlash from this and it’s important to keep to the topic I know, but deary me.
Im not some sort of fucking stalker - The things I’ve said are out there in various places already but only bits and bobs of it here and there. I’m trying to paint a clearer picture so people can stop spouting shit like “he moved because his wife made him”.
He lived next door to me for almost a year and I only admitted that when the rumours surfaced about him leaving. He was left alone to do his own thing so there were no breaches of trust. Even on the few times we met up socially we didn’t discuss football.at all.
He’s a family man who missed the first few years of his first two sons because he was living away so maybe, just maybe, he wants to be with his family, help them grow up but also he wants to go to work and enjoy it - which we could all see he was not at the end of the season by being subbed.
he gets a move, keeps his family close by, works for an old boss he admires, gets a pay rise and his wife gets more support for their kids. Maybe a player is doing what’s right for his family and himself!
Thanks for adding some clarity to the situation.
My only question is......would he have been looking to move if he was happier at the club ? ie, that he wasn't been subbed every week & that he was going to be pivotal in the managers plans.
Maybe.
my view is that the move to Yorkshire suits him and his family longer term.
- manager he likes - one final move for the family where the kids can settle into schools - wife near her family - one last bigger contract and wages - more for his money in his forever home
falling out with jones might be part of the reason as could the club wanting money to balance the books, may wanting a better family life could all be part of why this is happening.
i know we joke on here about Huddersfield’s 15 year unbeaten run but they have played in the top two divisions now for a decade. In that time, we’ve had 4 years at championship level. They are a more attractive than us right now.
im pretty sure that everyone on here at some point in thier career have changed company despite being happy or content because the new offer suited life choices at the time.
I don’t see this as another Scott Parker, kermogant or Danny Murphy situation, it’s a move that appears to suit both club and player. As a fan, does it make sense. No, of course not but as fans we probably only get to know about a very small percentage of the story.
Honestly now, this forum is full of adults....players come and go! There is nothing that can be done and you might not like it but you have to get on with it.
We have to see what the club up there sleeve. It might surprise us.
Either way, I am sure NJ has a plan and for now, that's good enough for me.
What is all this snobbery about how an adult should feel over Charlton related activity?
I spend a ridiculous amount of money following and watching Charlton, players like May and Dobson make those drives and shit journies home a bit more bearable.
If people spend their hard earned, and are sacrificing their time and money to follow this club, it's perfectly acceptable for people to be pissed off when the club makes poor decisions.
This lethargic approach of 'crying' 'grown adults' 'bed wetters' etc is a complete piss take. It's fans who give a shit about the team venting, all the sniping is proper frustrating to read.
Yeah I have to say it's getting pretty tiresome that whenever people on this board show passion for the club or one of its players, they get accused of bed wetting, crying, not being a grown man, etc.
It's called having a passion. We're not armchair Man Utd fans. In Argentina, people cry when they score a goal!
If you prefer to support from a more distanced place, by all means, but I don't see any need to try and humiliate others fans who are more invested.
There’s nothing dispassionate about taking the opposite approach to all this. I have watched almost every Charlton men’s, women’s, youth games that I possibly can. I have plenty of passion for CAFC.
Regarding what @Braziliance about the club making “poor decisions”. On the surface it does seem bonkers, but no one knows yet whether it’s a poor decision or a stroke of genius. Would it still be a poor decision if we get promoted and Huddersfield don’t?
It’s been quite clear from March / April that Jones hasn’t fancied Alfie. We don’t know why and I doubt we ever will. But he is the manager and he will live with the consequences of his decisions.
Everyone six months ago hated the model of players being forced on a manager and wanted the manager to be able to choose his squad. Now we have a manager with the remit to do it and the same people are upset because the manager doesn’t want the striker every fan loves.
I doubt if Jones will last the season if we are not challenging.
Same. I think we’ll be up there, with or without Alfie.
Based on what? Can only be pure hope at this point surely, as the squad is nowhere near where it needs to be.
The fact we finished the season strong and signing some good players and just putting the right systems in place behind the scenes . I think it’s a good time to be following Charlton with or with Alfie May.
Are you on commission to write this unrelenting drivel in support of this joke SMT? Have some pride!
Have some pride for backing the club and the manager ? Yeah that’s what I’m doing so stop talking waffle , I think the smt have done a good job since they’ve came in apart from a few poor decisions . We’re actually being run like a proper football club and that’s what people have been asking for since Roland . Carry on being negative about every little thing sad little man.
You’re either delusional or on the payroll. Worst season for 98 years mate, it’s embarrassing.
You’re delusional to blame the new owners for our worst finish after coming in late in the transfer window after taking over Sandgaard who had hardly any systems in place and a poor squad , no I’m not on the payroll I’m just happy we’re being run like a proper football club which was what every one has wanted for years. Stop being rude and use some common sense.
Jones plays a certain type of football, one where May clearly doesn’t fit (as a starter at least). This board said they are backing Jones, if Jones has said he wants the May money to go and get a player that better suits his system and will be more effective in helping the team to win games, then that’s what we need to do.
Jones said he made some surprising transfer decisions at Luton that the fans didn’t agree with. Longer term look what happened.
He didn’t get that chance to do that with Southampton or Stoke. Someone mentioned on here or the other forum that May scored less goals from open play last season (17) with one assist than he did in the previous 2 years, where he also had more assists.
Who knows how many he’ll get for Huddersfield. Who knows if he’ll be their main man! looks pretty certain he won’t be ours. Sounds like we have some deals in the pipeline, let’s see who walks through the door. Berry and Mitchell sound like really good signings. Hard to tell with Edwards or Mannion yet. We’ll know soon enough if 85 pages of Alfie May and his life story on here was worth everyone’s anxiety, or anger .
I will (try) to not comment much more on this situation but I'm just hoping all you positive & upbeat posters are indeed correct and we go on to sign the half a dozen players we need to fill in the missing goals.
As they say in the investment world.....past performance is no guarantee of the future. Just hope that's right as last years players couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo. Apart from the ones that have left that is.
For all the reasons why Alfie May might be transferred out I think the top one is the regime want to cash in, and I think the bottom one is that Alfie May would not fit into Nathan Jones’ preferred system, which is not credible to me. The more sinister explanation is the notion that the centre forward and the team manager don’t get on personally, if that is the truth it is a red flag against Jones that can only be ignored if he wins game after game and automatic promotion.
I agree that Berry Mitchell and Edward’s ‘sound like’ good signings, but when we got Alfie May last summer he didn’t sound like a good signing, to me he was an obvious ringingly clear good signing with hardly any doubts in play.
Honestly now, this forum is full of adults....players come and go! There is nothing that can be done and you might not like it but you have to get on with it.
We have to see what the club up there sleeve. It might surprise us.
Either way, I am sure NJ has a plan and for now, that's good enough for me.
What is all this snobbery about how an adult should feel over Charlton related activity?
I spend a ridiculous amount of money following and watching Charlton, players like May and Dobson make those drives and shit journies home a bit more bearable.
If people spend their hard earned, and are sacrificing their time and money to follow this club, it's perfectly acceptable for people to be pissed off when the club makes poor decisions.
This lethargic approach of 'crying' 'grown adults' 'bed wetters' etc is a complete piss take. It's fans who give a shit about the team venting, all the sniping is proper frustrating to read.
Yeah I have to say it's getting pretty tiresome that whenever people on this board show passion for the club or one of its players, they get accused of bed wetting, crying, not being a grown man, etc.
It's called having a passion. We're not armchair Man Utd fans. In Argentina, people cry when they score a goal!
If you prefer to support from a more distanced place, by all means, but I don't see any need to try and humiliate others fans who are more invested.
There’s nothing dispassionate about taking the opposite approach to all this. I have watched almost every Charlton men’s, women’s, youth games that I possibly can. I have plenty of passion for CAFC.
Regarding what @Braziliance about the club making “poor decisions”. On the surface it does seem bonkers, but no one knows yet whether it’s a poor decision or a stroke of genius. Would it still be a poor decision if we get promoted and Huddersfield don’t?
It’s been quite clear from March / April that Jones hasn’t fancied Alfie. We don’t know why and I doubt we ever will. But he is the manager and he will live with the consequences of his decisions.
Everyone six months ago hated the model of players being forced on a manager and wanted the manager to be able to choose his squad. Now we have a manager with the remit to do it and the same people are upset because the manager doesn’t want the striker every fan loves.
I doubt if Jones will last the season if we are not challenging.
Same. I think we’ll be up there, with or without Alfie.
Based on what? Can only be pure hope at this point surely, as the squad is nowhere near where it needs to be.
The fact we finished the season strong and signing some good players and just putting the right systems in place behind the scenes . I think it’s a good time to be following Charlton with or with Alfie May.
Are you on commission to write this unrelenting drivel in support of this joke SMT? Have some pride!
Have some pride for backing the club and the manager ? Yeah that’s what I’m doing so stop talking waffle , I think the smt have done a good job since they’ve came in apart from a few poor decisions . We’re actually being run like a proper football club and that’s what people have been asking for since Roland . Carry on being negative about every little thing sad little man.
You’re either delusional or on the payroll. Worst season for 98 years mate, it’s embarrassing.
You’re delusional to blame the new owners for our worst finish after coming in late in the transfer window after taking over Sandgaard who had hardly any systems in place and a poor squad , no I’m not on the payroll I’m just happy we’re being run like a proper football club which was what every one has wanted for years. Stop being rude and use some common sense.
No way should Alfie be sold before replacements are in the building,in fact he shouldnt of been allowed to go before January to make sure replacements are up to the job,just doesnt make sense to me
It's very clear. We don't have to sell May. Even if Jones doesn't rate him. He could be massive for us as a sub.
The reality is, the new owners are like all the others. They speak well but are not prepared to invest to get out of this God forsaken league.
Jones has to sell May to improve the team, but promotion next season is now off the agenda - again!!
Ridiculous…….
The first part of his name seems appropriate somehow. I cant see how some cannot see the need to build a sustainable business, do we expect them to act like lottery millionaires and spunk it all away - theres been countless cases where thats gone wrong ie Rushden & Diamonds/ Fleetwood/ Gravesend🤪
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It is a case of waiting and seeing. Would I have sold May in our position? Absolutely not, but we have to have faith in Jones and support him in what he is trying to do. The money that gets to him from the deal may indeed help him get the side he wants and we have to hope that side matches what we want.
Then last season 16th, 64, 65.
It looks clear from those stats that barring 2018/19 we haven’t been anywhere near good enough.
We let in 2+ goals a league game on 19 occasions
Scoring goals was not the problem
It could be this coming season
The reality is, the new owners are like all the others. They speak well but are not prepared to invest to get out of this God forsaken league.
Jones has to sell May to improve the team, but promotion next season is now off the agenda - again!!
I like how the first post makes it sound like a forced move and the second like it's a personal choice.
I imagine you'll find the Jones will want the team contributing goals so we aren't relying on one player to bang 20+ in. If Kanu/Adhame(?) and Leaburn get 10+ each with Godden potentially and Aneke chipping in that's a start then we have a midfield who are being engineered to chip in with goals.
If we had a better team for the sake of selling one man then that can't be a bad thing.
@Swisdom thanks for all your input you are probably the most ITK person out there due to your links to the club.
my view is that the move to Yorkshire suits him and his family longer term.
- one final move for the family where the kids can settle into schools
- wife near her family
- one last bigger contract and wages
- more for his money in his forever home
falling out with jones might be part of the reason as could the club wanting money to balance the books, may wanting a better family life could all be part of why this is happening.
i know we joke on here about Huddersfield’s 15 year unbeaten run but they have played in the top two divisions now for a decade. In that time, we’ve had 4 years at championship level. They are a more attractive than us right now.
im pretty sure that everyone on here at some point in thier career have changed company despite being happy or content because the new offer suited life choices at the time.
Someone mentioned on here or the other forum that May scored less goals from open play last season (17) with one assist than he did in the previous 2 years, where he also had more assists.
looks pretty certain he won’t be ours.
Sounds like we have some deals in the pipeline, let’s see who walks through the door.
Berry and Mitchell sound like really good signings. Hard to tell with Edwards or Mannion yet.
We’ll know soon enough if 85 pages of Alfie May and his life story on here was worth everyone’s anxiety, or anger .
As they say in the investment world.....past performance is no guarantee of the future. Just hope that's right as last years players couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo. Apart from the ones that have left that is.
The more sinister explanation is the notion that the centre forward and the team manager don’t get on personally, if that is the truth it is a red flag against Jones that can only be ignored if he wins game after game and automatic promotion.