- Nathan Jones 6/4 - Nigel Pearson 3/1 - Neil Warnock 4/1 - Michael Duff 5/1 - John Eustace 5/1 - Mark Bonner 10/1 - Gareth Ainsworth 14/1 - 16/1 bar
27th January morning update…
- Nathan Jones 1/2 - Alex Neil 7/2 - Neil Warnock 6/1 - Michael Duff 6/1 - Nigel Pearson 8/1 - John Eustace 10/1 - 20/1 bar
28th January update…
- Nathan Jones 2/1 - Mark Warburton 2/1 - Gary Rowett 4/1 - Alex Neil 6/1 - Michael Duff 8/1 - Neil Warnock 8/1 - Nigel Pearson 10/1 - John Eustace 12/1 - 20/1 bar
29th January update, unchanged from 24 hours ago
30th January…
- Nathan Jones 4/7 - Mark Warburton 4/1 - Gary Rowett 4/1 - Alex Neil 8/1 - Neil Warnock 10/1 - Michael Duff 10/1 - Nigel Pearson 12/1 - Darren Moore 14/1 - 20/1 bar
31st January
- Nathan Jones EVS - Gary Rowett 2/1 - Mark Warburton 5/1 - Alex Neil 10/1 - Michael Duff 12/1 - Neil Warnock 12/1 - Nigel Pearson 14/1 - Darren Moore 16/1 - 20/1 bar
1st Feb
- Nathan Jones 6/4 - Neil Warnock 2/1 - Gary Rowett 5/1 - Mark Warburton 8/1 - Alex Neil 12/1 - Nigel Pearson 16/1 - Darren Moore 20/1 - Michael Duff 20/1 - 25/1 bar
- Nathan Jones 6/4 - Nigel Pearson 3/1 - Neil Warnock 4/1 - Michael Duff 5/1 - John Eustace 5/1 - Mark Bonner 10/1 - Gareth Ainsworth 14/1 - 16/1 bar
27th January morning update…
- Nathan Jones 1/2 - Alex Neil 7/2 - Neil Warnock 6/1 - Michael Duff 6/1 - Nigel Pearson 8/1 - John Eustace 10/1 - 20/1 bar
28th January update…
- Nathan Jones 2/1 - Mark Warburton 2/1 - Gary Rowett 4/1 - Alex Neil 6/1 - Michael Duff 8/1 - Neil Warnock 8/1 - Nigel Pearson 10/1 - John Eustace 12/1 - 20/1 bar
29th January update, unchanged from 24 hours ago
30th January…
- Nathan Jones 4/7 - Mark Warburton 4/1 - Gary Rowett 4/1 - Alex Neil 8/1 - Neil Warnock 10/1 - Michael Duff 10/1 - Nigel Pearson 12/1 - Darren Moore 14/1 - 20/1 bar
31st January
- Nathan Jones EVS - Gary Rowett 2/1 - Mark Warburton 5/1 - Alex Neil 10/1 - Michael Duff 12/1 - Neil Warnock 12/1 - Nigel Pearson 14/1 - Darren Moore 16/1 - 20/1 bar
1st Feb
- Nathan Jones 6/4 - Neil Warnock 2/1 - Gary Rowett 5/1 - Mark Warburton 8/1 - Alex Neil 12/1 - Nigel Pearson 16/1 - Darren Moore 20/1 - Michael Duff 20/1 - 25/1 bar
There’s clearly no clue from the bookies POV, may as well have a small punt on Duff and Pearson at them prices.
Did Jones ever have control over transfers at Luton, Stoke or Southampton? I’m not sure he did. Input perhaps, total control though?
I find it really strange that people think we’re the only club operating this way.
I find it really strange that people going into two transfer deadline days (with a lot of work still needing to be done) without a Head coach/manager in place is normal or acceptable.
Kind of separate to the point I was making but fair enough.
If you had a choice between keeping Appleton for two more games (Blackpool, Derby this weekend) and having some deadline day signings or getting rid of him and having no deadline day signings, what’s the preference?
These are the kind of points I was trying to make in favour of keeping him a bit longer but the sentiment against him became too strong.
There is another choice in there which was bringing in a manager, given MA was so clearly on the way out
- Nathan Jones 6/4 - Nigel Pearson 3/1 - Neil Warnock 4/1 - Michael Duff 5/1 - John Eustace 5/1 - Mark Bonner 10/1 - Gareth Ainsworth 14/1 - 16/1 bar
27th January morning update…
- Nathan Jones 1/2 - Alex Neil 7/2 - Neil Warnock 6/1 - Michael Duff 6/1 - Nigel Pearson 8/1 - John Eustace 10/1 - 20/1 bar
28th January update…
- Nathan Jones 2/1 - Mark Warburton 2/1 - Gary Rowett 4/1 - Alex Neil 6/1 - Michael Duff 8/1 - Neil Warnock 8/1 - Nigel Pearson 10/1 - John Eustace 12/1 - 20/1 bar
29th January update, unchanged from 24 hours ago
30th January…
- Nathan Jones 4/7 - Mark Warburton 4/1 - Gary Rowett 4/1 - Alex Neil 8/1 - Neil Warnock 10/1 - Michael Duff 10/1 - Nigel Pearson 12/1 - Darren Moore 14/1 - 20/1 bar
31st January
- Nathan Jones EVS - Gary Rowett 2/1 - Mark Warburton 5/1 - Alex Neil 10/1 - Michael Duff 12/1 - Neil Warnock 12/1 - Nigel Pearson 14/1 - Darren Moore 16/1 - 20/1 bar
1st Feb
- Nathan Jones 6/4 - Neil Warnock 2/1 - Gary Rowett 5/1 - Mark Warburton 8/1 - Alex Neil 12/1 - Nigel Pearson 16/1 - Darren Moore 20/1 - Michael Duff 20/1 - 25/1 bar
There’s clearly no clue from the bookies POV, may as well have a small punt on Duff and Pearson at them prices.
Tempting to put money on a random no name outsider and watch the chaos on here 🍿
- Nathan Jones 6/4 - Nigel Pearson 3/1 - Neil Warnock 4/1 - Michael Duff 5/1 - John Eustace 5/1 - Mark Bonner 10/1 - Gareth Ainsworth 14/1 - 16/1 bar
27th January morning update…
- Nathan Jones 1/2 - Alex Neil 7/2 - Neil Warnock 6/1 - Michael Duff 6/1 - Nigel Pearson 8/1 - John Eustace 10/1 - 20/1 bar
28th January update…
- Nathan Jones 2/1 - Mark Warburton 2/1 - Gary Rowett 4/1 - Alex Neil 6/1 - Michael Duff 8/1 - Neil Warnock 8/1 - Nigel Pearson 10/1 - John Eustace 12/1 - 20/1 bar
29th January update, unchanged from 24 hours ago
30th January…
- Nathan Jones 4/7 - Mark Warburton 4/1 - Gary Rowett 4/1 - Alex Neil 8/1 - Neil Warnock 10/1 - Michael Duff 10/1 - Nigel Pearson 12/1 - Darren Moore 14/1 - 20/1 bar
31st January
- Nathan Jones EVS - Gary Rowett 2/1 - Mark Warburton 5/1 - Alex Neil 10/1 - Michael Duff 12/1 - Neil Warnock 12/1 - Nigel Pearson 14/1 - Darren Moore 16/1 - 20/1 bar
1st Feb
- Nathan Jones 6/4 - Neil Warnock 2/1 - Gary Rowett 5/1 - Mark Warburton 8/1 - Alex Neil 12/1 - Nigel Pearson 16/1 - Darren Moore 20/1 - Michael Duff 20/1 - 25/1 bar
There’s clearly no clue from the bookies POV, may as well have a small punt on Duff and Pearson at them prices.
Tempting to put money on a random no name outsider and watch the chaos on here 🍿
- Nathan Jones 6/4 - Nigel Pearson 3/1 - Neil Warnock 4/1 - Michael Duff 5/1 - John Eustace 5/1 - Mark Bonner 10/1 - Gareth Ainsworth 14/1 - 16/1 bar
27th January morning update…
- Nathan Jones 1/2 - Alex Neil 7/2 - Neil Warnock 6/1 - Michael Duff 6/1 - Nigel Pearson 8/1 - John Eustace 10/1 - 20/1 bar
28th January update…
- Nathan Jones 2/1 - Mark Warburton 2/1 - Gary Rowett 4/1 - Alex Neil 6/1 - Michael Duff 8/1 - Neil Warnock 8/1 - Nigel Pearson 10/1 - John Eustace 12/1 - 20/1 bar
29th January update, unchanged from 24 hours ago
30th January…
- Nathan Jones 4/7 - Mark Warburton 4/1 - Gary Rowett 4/1 - Alex Neil 8/1 - Neil Warnock 10/1 - Michael Duff 10/1 - Nigel Pearson 12/1 - Darren Moore 14/1 - 20/1 bar
31st January
- Nathan Jones EVS - Gary Rowett 2/1 - Mark Warburton 5/1 - Alex Neil 10/1 - Michael Duff 12/1 - Neil Warnock 12/1 - Nigel Pearson 14/1 - Darren Moore 16/1 - 20/1 bar
1st Feb
- Nathan Jones 6/4 - Neil Warnock 2/1 - Gary Rowett 5/1 - Mark Warburton 8/1 - Alex Neil 12/1 - Nigel Pearson 16/1 - Darren Moore 20/1 - Michael Duff 20/1 - 25/1 bar
There’s clearly no clue from the bookies POV, may as well have a small punt on Duff and Pearson at them prices.
Tempting to put money on a random no name outsider and watch the chaos on here 🍿
It doesn’t take a lot to move these type of markets. Myself and a few friends had about £200 between us on a transfer special once because Wan Bissaku viewed a mates house, he went from 5/1 to 4/6 within minutes.
If the choice is between Nathan Jones and Andy Scott still keeping his responsibilities.
The correct choice is pretty obvious to me.
Are we clear on what Scott’s responsibilities are? Some have blamed him for the managerial appointments but Cawley’s said that’s not entirely Scott’s decision.
To waste the investors money on non descript signings?
Did Jones ever have control over transfers at Luton, Stoke or Southampton? I’m not sure he did. Input perhaps, total control though?
I find it really strange that people think we’re the only club operating this way.
I find it really strange that people going into two transfer deadline days (with a lot of work still needing to be done) without a Head coach/manager in place is normal or acceptable.
Kind of separate to the point I was making but fair enough.
If you had a choice between keeping Appleton for two more games (Blackpool, Derby this weekend) and having some deadline day signings or getting rid of him and having no deadline day signings, what’s the preference?
These are the kind of points I was trying to make in favour of keeping him a bit longer but the sentiment against him became too strong.
How about we act like a professional football club with one thousand executives and owners and get our shit together and do both things in good time
Oh wait.....
It shouldn't be a one or the other. It should be both things done properly and efficiently
For the very fact we haven't done that is a prime example of why this whole season has been an absolute shit sandwich
The person who appoints the manager is Jim Rodwell alone according to a poster yesterday. No Methven has nothing whatsoever to do with it seemingly, and anyway his shareholding is so small he doesn't count. We read above that Andy Scott has nothing to do with the appointment of the manager either, so it is left with Jim Rodwell himself. Makes me wonder what is meant by any comment that the decision makers are 48/52 or something. Is that a reference to what carries on in the hemispheres of one man's brain?
Did Jones ever have control over transfers at Luton, Stoke or Southampton? I’m not sure he did. Input perhaps, total control though?
I find it really strange that people think we’re the only club operating this way.
I find it really strange that people going into two transfer deadline days (with a lot of work still needing to be done) without a Head coach/manager in place is normal or acceptable.
Kind of separate to the point I was making but fair enough.
If you had a choice between keeping Appleton for two more games (Blackpool, Derby this weekend) and having some deadline day signings or getting rid of him and having no deadline day signings, what’s the preference?
These are the kind of points I was trying to make in favour of keeping him a bit longer but the sentiment against him became too strong.
No, what I would have done is sack him after the 3-3 draw with Port Vale - as I stated at the time in the match thread before we get closer to a relegation battle - 6th Jan Or, sack him following the home defeat to Peterborough (again mentioned we are getting closer) - 13th Jan Or, sack him following the defeat to Burton as we were now in the relegation battle mentioned at the start of the month - 20th Jan
Instead, the board who wanted him out, allowed him to manage the Northampton game (even though some of the players thought he wasn't going to be in charge) which then caused even more damage and only allowed a week of signings and interviewing & appointing a new manager/head coach.
Let's stop making excuses for pisspoor decsions. This is not normal management.
Did Jones ever have control over transfers at Luton, Stoke or Southampton? I’m not sure he did. Input perhaps, total control though?
I find it really strange that people think we’re the only club operating this way.
I find it really strange that people going into two transfer deadline days (with a lot of work still needing to be done) without a Head coach/manager in place is normal or acceptable.
Kind of separate to the point I was making but fair enough.
If you had a choice between keeping Appleton for two more games (Blackpool, Derby this weekend) and having some deadline day signings or getting rid of him and having no deadline day signings, what’s the preference?
These are the kind of points I was trying to make in favour of keeping him a bit longer but the sentiment against him became too strong.
No, what I would have done is sack him after the 3-3 draw with Port Vale - as I stated at the time in the match thread before we get closer to a relegation battle - 6th Jan Or, sack him following the home defeat to Peterborough (again mentioned we are getting closer) - 13th Jan Or, sack him following the defeat to Burton as we were now in the relegation battle mentioned at the start of the month - 20th Jan
Instead, the board who wanted him out, allowed him to manage the Northampton game (even though some of the players thought he wasn't going to be in charge) which then caused even more damage and only allowed a week of signings and interviewing & appointing a new manager/head coach.
Let's stop making excuses for pisspoor decsions. This is not normal management.
If we sacked Appleton at those times, we probably wouldn’t have signed the players we did. Certainly we know Coventry could’ve gone to Sheffield and part of the reason he didn’t was because we had a manager in place.
I take the point that people have made about having someone ready to go ASAP but it’s not always that easy - especially when the club is so badly underperforming.
If you want to bring in a top quality candidate, it takes time to convince them that things are awful right now but they’re ready to be turned out and that they’re the man to do it.
I think the only ready made replacements that we could’ve had lined up would’ve been another Appleton or similar.
Did Jones ever have control over transfers at Luton, Stoke or Southampton? I’m not sure he did. Input perhaps, total control though?
I find it really strange that people think we’re the only club operating this way.
I find it really strange that people going into two transfer deadline days (with a lot of work still needing to be done) without a Head coach/manager in place is normal or acceptable.
Kind of separate to the point I was making but fair enough.
If you had a choice between keeping Appleton for two more games (Blackpool, Derby this weekend) and having some deadline day signings or getting rid of him and having no deadline day signings, what’s the preference?
These are the kind of points I was trying to make in favour of keeping him a bit longer but the sentiment against him became too strong.
No, what I would have done is sack him after the 3-3 draw with Port Vale - as I stated at the time in the match thread before we get closer to a relegation battle - 6th Jan Or, sack him following the home defeat to Peterborough (again mentioned we are getting closer) - 13th Jan Or, sack him following the defeat to Burton as we were now in the relegation battle mentioned at the start of the month - 20th Jan
Instead, the board who wanted him out, allowed him to manage the Northampton game (even though some of the players thought he wasn't going to be in charge) which then caused even more damage and only allowed a week of signings and interviewing & appointing a new manager/head coach.
Let's stop making excuses for pisspoor decsions. This is not normal management.
If we sacked Appleton at those times, we probably wouldn’t have signed the players we did. Certainly we know Coventry could’ve gone to Sheffield and part of the reason he didn’t was because we had a manager in place.
I take the point that people have made about having someone ready to go ASAP but it’s not always that easy - especially when the club is so badly underperforming.
If you want to bring in a top quality candidate, it takes time to convince them that things are awful right now but they’re ready to be turned out and that they’re the man to do it.
I think the only ready made replacements that we could’ve had lined up would’ve been another Appleton or similar.
That isn't true, Coventry didn't join us over Sheffield Wednesday because of Appleton. The deal fell through because we agreed to the asking package West Ham wanted, Sheff Weds didn't. We reacted quickly and came in and got the deal over the line. Fair play to the board on that one. Our top targets currently were all out of work at the start of January. So if that is the pool of managers we are looking at, it would have been the same had we done it weeks earlier. Warning signs were there that something was wrong and had we acted sooner instead of trying our luck, we would be in a much better position to buy players and even possibly, might not be 4 points above the relegation zone.
Did Jones ever have control over transfers at Luton, Stoke or Southampton? I’m not sure he did. Input perhaps, total control though?
I find it really strange that people think we’re the only club operating this way.
I find it really strange that people going into two transfer deadline days (with a lot of work still needing to be done) without a Head coach/manager in place is normal or acceptable.
Kind of separate to the point I was making but fair enough.
If you had a choice between keeping Appleton for two more games (Blackpool, Derby this weekend) and having some deadline day signings or getting rid of him and having no deadline day signings, what’s the preference?
These are the kind of points I was trying to make in favour of keeping him a bit longer but the sentiment against him became too strong.
No, what I would have done is sack him after the 3-3 draw with Port Vale - as I stated at the time in the match thread before we get closer to a relegation battle - 6th Jan Or, sack him following the home defeat to Peterborough (again mentioned we are getting closer) - 13th Jan Or, sack him following the defeat to Burton as we were now in the relegation battle mentioned at the start of the month - 20th Jan
Instead, the board who wanted him out, allowed him to manage the Northampton game (even though some of the players thought he wasn't going to be in charge) which then caused even more damage and only allowed a week of signings and interviewing & appointing a new manager/head coach.
Let's stop making excuses for pisspoor decsions. This is not normal management.
If we sacked Appleton at those times, we probably wouldn’t have signed the players we did. Certainly we know Coventry could’ve gone to Sheffield and part of the reason he didn’t was because we had a manager in place.
I take the point that people have made about having someone ready to go ASAP but it’s not always that easy - especially when the club is so badly underperforming.
If you want to bring in a top quality candidate, it takes time to convince them that things are awful right now but they’re ready to be turned out and that they’re the man to do it.
I think the only ready made replacements that we could’ve had lined up would’ve been another Appleton or similar.
That isn't true, Coventry didn't join us over Sheffield Wednesday because of Appleton. The deal fell through because we agreed to the asking package West Ham wanted, Sheff Weds didn't. We reacted quickly and came in and got the deal over the line. Fair play to the board on that one. Our top targets currently were all out of work at the start of January. So if that is the pool of managers we are looking at, it would have been the same had we done it weeks earlier. Warning signs were there that something was wrong and had we acted sooner instead of trying our luck, we would be in a much better position to buy players and even possibly, might not be 4 points above the relegation zone.
You’re talking about an agreement with the selling club.
I’m talking about an agreement with the player. We have evidence that the manager in situ was instrumental to getting it done.
Whilst we could have sacked Appleton earlier we didn't. What sort of message would it send to potential new managers that we are willing to talk to them while our current manager is still in the job.
Whilst we could have sacked Appleton earlier we didn't. What sort of message would it send to potential new managers that we are willing to talk to them while our current manager is still in the job.
Whilst we could have sacked Appleton earlier we didn't. What sort of message would it send to potential new managers that we are willing to talk to them while our current manager is still in the job.
24th December 2006
Les Reed - Sacked
Alan Pardew - Appointed hours later
In hindsight, maybe not great, but he was the clear fan favourite and best available choice at the time.
Whilst we could have sacked Appleton earlier we didn't. What sort of message would it send to potential new managers that we are willing to talk to them while our current manager is still in the job.
Not sure if it’s been mentioned cos I’m skim reading my life away on this I’m fucked in the head and my therapist isn’t saving me thread but it’s 4 teams that get relegated from this league not 3
Not sure if it’s been mentioned cos I’m skim reading my life away on this I’m fucked in the head and my therapist isn’t saving me thread but it’s 4 teams that get relegated from this league not 3
Even if it was 8, we wouldn't get relegated mate, just because!
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Easy Peasy lemon Squeezy...😉
- Nathan Jones 6/4
- Neil Warnock 2/1
- Gary Rowett 5/1
- Mark Warburton 8/1
- Alex Neil 12/1
- Nigel Pearson 16/1
- Darren Moore 20/1
- Michael Duff 20/1
- 25/1 bar
Oh wait.....
It shouldn't be a one or the other. It should be both things done properly and efficiently
For the very fact we haven't done that is a prime example of why this whole season has been an absolute shit sandwich
No Methven has nothing whatsoever to do with it seemingly, and anyway his shareholding is so small he doesn't count.
We read above that Andy Scott has nothing to do with the appointment of the manager either, so it is left with Jim Rodwell himself.
Makes me wonder what is meant by any comment that the decision makers are 48/52 or something. Is that a reference to what carries on in the hemispheres of one man's brain?
Or, sack him following the home defeat to Peterborough (again mentioned we are getting closer) - 13th Jan
Or, sack him following the defeat to Burton as we were now in the relegation battle mentioned at the start of the month - 20th Jan
Instead, the board who wanted him out, allowed him to manage the Northampton game (even though some of the players thought he wasn't going to be in charge) which then caused even more damage and only allowed a week of signings and interviewing & appointing a new manager/head coach.
Let's stop making excuses for pisspoor decsions. This is not normal management.
I take the point that people have made about having someone ready to go ASAP but it’s not always that easy - especially when the club is so badly underperforming.
If you want to bring in a top quality candidate, it takes time to convince them that things are awful right now but they’re ready to be turned out and that they’re the man to do it.
I think the only ready made replacements that we could’ve had lined up would’ve been another Appleton or similar.
Our top targets currently were all out of work at the start of January. So if that is the pool of managers we are looking at, it would have been the same had we done it weeks earlier. Warning signs were there that something was wrong and had we acted sooner instead of trying our luck, we would be in a much better position to buy players and even possibly, might not be 4 points above the relegation zone.
I’m talking about an agreement with the player. We have evidence that the manager in situ was instrumental to getting it done.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/sealed-over-a-cup-of-tea-conor-coventry-on-signing-for-charlton-good-luck-message-from-west-ham-pal-declan-rice-and-admiration-for-addicks-head-coach-appleton/
What sort of message would it send to potential new managers that we are willing to talk to them while our current manager is still in the job.
Les Reed - Sacked
Alan Pardew - Appointed hours later
I've just seen him and Scott McTominay in Charlton tracksuits house-hunting in Bickley.