1. I don't think the Cardiff job is very appealing right now. 2. I don't think they'll pay compensation for a manager who has years left on his contract. 3. Having twice left for a 'better' job he failed miserably both times, so i think he'll be keen to stay where his job is secure. 4. He's signed half of his old mates from Luton so it'd be a bit much to up and leave them 2 months into the season.
Sounds like someone who supports Cardiff and is simply being polite about the role.
Sounded to me like someone who'd definitely want it but was also respectful about his current job given he'll probably not be offered it (and is a professional).
1. I don't think the Cardiff job is very appealing right now. 2. I don't think they'll pay compensation for a manager who has years left on his contract. 3. Having twice left for a 'better' job he failed miserably both times, so i think he'll be keen to stay where his job is secure. 4. He's signed half of his old mates from Luton so it'd be a bit much to up and leave them 2 months into the season.
He'll re-sign them in January for Cardiff. Indeed that's why Dan Potts only signed a short term contract, to make the switch to Cardiff even easier
With Schumacher and Lowe without clubs and therefore, no compensation to be paid, I would imagine they would be higher on the list than Jones at this point.
Jones failed at his last two jobs because he couldn't get buy-in. The players he had weren't interested and when push came to shove the board chose to chuck him instead of them. At Charlton the board have backed him pretty substantially. He's won the battle with Scott, he's been allowed to bring in a lot of his trusted players, he's got the transfers he wanted and was even allowed to push out our POTY as they clashed. He acknowledged the buy-in he's had in that interview. Cardiff by all accounts have an ownership who have lost interest and wouldn't be interested in the backing needed to give Jones what he requires. I'm sure he'd like to manage Cardiff one day but it would be very odd if he left behind a situation perfectly suited to him in his efforts to build up his reputation again just to go into another doomed job. The Cardiff job will come around again but the amount of control and potential to progress he has at Charlton likely won't.
Jones failed at his last two jobs because he couldn't get buy-in. The players he had weren't interested and when push came to shove the board chose to chuck him instead of them. At Charlton the board have backed him pretty substantially. He's won the battle with Scott, he's been allowed to bring in a lot of his trusted players, he's got the transfers he wanted and was even allowed to push out our POTY as they clashed. He acknowledged the buy-in he's had in that interview. Cardiff by all accounts have an ownership who have lost interest and wouldn't be interested in the backing needed to give Jones what he requires. I'm sure he'd like to manage Cardiff one day but it would be very odd if he left behind a situation perfectly suited to him in his efforts to build up his reputation again just to go into another doomed job. The Cardiff job will come around again but the amount of control and potential to progress he has at Charlton likely won't.
IF Cardiff approached us then we'd probably be obliged to tell Jones, then that would be interesting to see if he wanted to talk to them.
It’s a work in progress, we’ve been awful for years and one transfer window won’t change that. I am usually one of the first to call for a manager to go, but Jones needs time and backing.
It’s a work in progress, we’ve been awful for years and one transfer window won’t change that. I am usually one of the first to call for a manager to go, but Jones needs time and backing.
Exactly, win a couple and its hms piss the league. A couple of losses and there’s a thread on I’m done!!!
after years of decline and mediocre finishes at best, we are currently 1 point off of the play offs. Our season is being written off and it’s not even October yet!!
It’s a work in progress, we’ve been awful for years and one transfer window won’t change that. I am usually one of the first to call for a manager to go, but Jones needs time and backing.
Exactly, win a couple and its hms piss the league. A couple of losses and there’s a thread on I’m done!!!
after years of decline and mediocre finishes at best, we are currently 1 point off of the play offs. Our season is being written off and it’s not even October yet!!
People just need to chill.
No. You need to wake up and smell the coffee.
May, Dobson and CBT replaced with inferior players. Poor football, no creativity and no chance of going up. A complete fuck up. I was there yesterday and at Reading. Absolutely awful.
It’s a work in progress, we’ve been awful for years and one transfer window won’t change that. I am usually one of the first to call for a manager to go, but Jones needs time and backing.
We've had 2 if you include the January signings that apparently Jones was in the background for.
It’s a work in progress, we’ve been awful for years and one transfer window won’t change that. I am usually one of the first to call for a manager to go, but Jones needs time and backing.
We've had 2 if you include the January signings that apparently Jones was in the background for.
The transfer window was open for one day, hence why we (potentially) got Southampton to release Small, and managed to bring in Ramsay - Cant really call that much of a window that Jones was involved in.
Until that point Appleton was in charge until 23rd January, so Jones got a week of that window at most.
It’s a work in progress, we’ve been awful for years and one transfer window won’t change that. I am usually one of the first to call for a manager to go, but Jones needs time and backing.
Agree that it was highly unlikely that one window would suffice. I’d estimate three and then expect a big push for promotion but this is his team, his players, his tactics and currently his mess.
I don't believe it's possible these days to build over multiple windows. Players that were bought in two windows prior, may be gone by the 3rd window ie Dobbo, May, CBT, for one reason or another, unless success comes quickly, players don't stick around long these days. The rebuild needs to be done either in one go (Birmingham) or over two windows (Maximum) Doing it any other way, just leads to an endless churn and waste of money, exactly what we've been experiencing for years now.
It’s a work in progress, we’ve been awful for years and one transfer window won’t change that. I am usually one of the first to call for a manager to go, but Jones needs time and backing.
Exactly, win a couple and its hms piss the league. A couple of losses and there’s a thread on I’m done!!!
after years of decline and mediocre finishes at best, we are currently 1 point off of the play offs. Our season is being written off and it’s not even October yet!!
People just need to chill.
No. You need to wake up and smell the coffee.
May, Dobson and CBT replaced with inferior players. Poor football, no creativity and no chance of going up. A complete fuck up. I was there yesterday and at Reading. Absolutely awful.
Cbt and Dobson were both pre jones. May is the only one that has left due to Jones.
so you are saying that our season is over already?
Yeah sorry guys, I'm a bit down at the moment. I really thought we'd have a good season with a possible play off place up for grabs. To see it all unravel in the last 5 games, tells me we're just not good enough.
We are not playing like a promotion chasing team and clearly Jones doesn't know his best team, given the plethora of changes in recent weeks.
He was stupid getting rid of May and should have fought harder to keep Dobson. He was also stupid to drop Mitchell. To only have TC as our only creative player is a scandal.
The idea that a season is linear and all fine all the time is for the birds, and saying your season is over at the end of September after two defeats is just, sorry, nuts and over dramatic
1. I don't think the Cardiff job is very appealing right now. 2. I don't think they'll pay compensation for a manager who has years left on his contract. 3. Having twice left for a 'better' job he failed miserably both times, so i think he'll be keen to stay where his job is secure. 4. He's signed half of his old mates from Luton so it'd be a bit much to up and leave them 2 months into the season.
NJ has zero chance of managing in the Championship, after Stoke and Southampton he needs to prove he can manage a successful team and get them promoted.
I would not be surprised if things go sour we will sack him by Christmas Halloween 🎃
We have invested and backed Jones too much to get rid of him so soon, we’ve given him a long contract, a decent budget and let him sign and sell who he wants. We simply have to give him time to see if he can improve things
Tough run of games coming up, with the most winnable burton game now postponed this next month could be do or die for Jones
Talking of ghosts of moments past, I am still haunted by @bobmunro's cryptic comment about Nathan Jones. Signing so many ex Luton players and not being able to accommodate May worries me, as does the seeming ghosting of Taylor and perhaps now Small. Sprinkle a bit of Edun on that too. Is Jones a coach who can make things better (he has done with TC) or somebody who majors in deploying already known quantities? I felt a bit unsettled when he signed and played Lua Lua last season, couldn't work that one out at all.
Talking of ghosts of moments past, I am still haunted by @bobmunro's cryptic comment about Nathan Jones. Signing so many ex Luton players and not being able to accommodate May worries me, as does the seeming ghosting of Taylor and perhaps now Small. Sprinkle a bit of Edun on that too. Is Jones a coach who can make things better (he has done with TC) or somebody who majors in deploying already known quantities? I felt a bit unsettled when he signed and played Lua Lua last season, couldn't work that one out at all.
Talking of ghosts of moments past, I am still haunted by @bobmunro's cryptic comment about Nathan Jones. Signing so many ex Luton players and not being able to accommodate May worries me, as does the seeming ghosting of Taylor and perhaps now Small. Sprinkle a bit of Edun on that too. Is Jones a coach who can make things better (he has done with TC) or somebody who majors in deploying already known quantities? I felt a bit unsettled when he signed and played Lua Lua last season, couldn't work that one out at all.
What was the comment?
It was cryptic, I can't remember the exact words, but it hinted at what Jones was like at Stoke.
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1. I don't think the Cardiff job is very appealing right now.
2. I don't think they'll pay compensation for a manager who has years left on his contract.
3. Having twice left for a 'better' job he failed miserably both times, so i think he'll be keen to stay where his job is secure.
4. He's signed half of his old mates from Luton so it'd be a bit much to up and leave them 2 months into the season.
So quantity over quality...🤔
That decision now looks an absolute shocker
after years of decline and mediocre finishes at best, we are currently 1 point off of the play offs. Our season is being written off and it’s not even October yet!!
May, Dobson and CBT replaced with inferior players. Poor football, no creativity and no chance of going up. A complete fuck up. I was there yesterday and at Reading. Absolutely awful.
Until that point Appleton was in charge until 23rd January, so Jones got a week of that window at most.
Players that were bought in two windows prior, may be gone by the 3rd window ie Dobbo, May, CBT, for one reason or another, unless success comes quickly, players don't stick around long these days.
The rebuild needs to be done either in one go (Birmingham) or over two windows (Maximum)
Doing it any other way, just leads to an endless churn and waste of money, exactly what we've been experiencing for years now.
so you are saying that our season is over already?
This team will not be getting promotion this season. In a shit division and given our size as a club, our season is over.
I'll be at all the home games but absolutely hate how bad we have become over the last 11 years since Powell left.
A bit too early in the season to say that, should we win three games consecutive things are back on track.
We are not playing like a promotion chasing team and clearly Jones doesn't know his best team, given the plethora of changes in recent weeks.
He was stupid getting rid of May and should have fought harder to keep Dobson. He was also stupid to drop Mitchell. To only have TC as our only creative player is a scandal.
Tough run of games coming up, with the most winnable burton game now postponed this next month could be do or die for Jones
Signing so many ex Luton players and not being able to accommodate May worries me, as does the seeming ghosting of Taylor and perhaps now Small. Sprinkle a bit of Edun on that too.
Is Jones a coach who can make things better (he has done with TC) or somebody who majors in deploying already known quantities?
I felt a bit unsettled when he signed and played Lua Lua last season, couldn't work that one out at all.