March looks rough with the away games but if Nathan can't get us to beat 3 of the bottom 4 clubs then we deserve to get relegated.
My concern is more will he stay with us if he can't perform a miracle and we get relegated? Plus and more importantly will the main money men in the States decide to bail out as well?
Because we're Charlton this could be a distinct possibility.
I really hope it doesn't get to that situation but this season as many lifers have said has been coming for over 10 years at least.
The decline started 18 years ago under Richard Murray … the owners know this is going to take time to get right not just on the pitch but off it as well there not been a stable structure at the club for many many years …. we won’t go down .. but I dint think it would make much diff if we did to be honest cause we would still be rebuilding the squad and club and you can easy go through league one if we get that right .. but that’s not an issue we will stay in league one our performance at Blackpool second half and yesterday are not of a side going down .. we need one of two back and we need to find that system that’s sorts the players we have . Jones likes diamond and 433 so will be interesting what he goes with next Saturday
I blame WW2 myself… or Thatcher… or Blair. If only each season started with a clean sheet in terms of points.
You aren't wrong about WW2. It cost us the league title according to my dad
34/35 Div3S 1st
35/36 Div 2 2nd
36/37 Div 1 2nd Top team in London
37/38 Div 1 4th Arsenal champs, 2nd team in London
Be interesting to see or discover what type of control Jones has. Don’t see him ceding anything in player recruitment, tactics and formation. Do we think that the hands on involvement of Brener and Friedman has authorised more direct control to Jones and away from Scott ? I think if that is the case it’s hard to see a role for Scott in his present capacity. One thing we do know about Jones is that he’s very much his own man.
Given the two signings last week seem to have been his choices, I make you right.
After watching that dross yesterday are we certain that Jones is really interested in coaching\managing us. It seems odd to me that any one would want to.
This is the chance for him to rebuild after Stoke and Southampton. He knows the club, I presume he's been told what the 'owners' plans/project is and he has the chance to prove a point. If he can do for us what he did for Luton then its win/win. So yes I do think he's more than interested to be that person that digs us out of a huge hole!
March looks rough with the away games but if Nathan can't get us to beat 3 of the bottom 4 clubs then we deserve to get relegated.
My concern is more will he stay with us if he can't perform a miracle and we get relegated? Plus and more importantly will the main money men in the States decide to bail out as well?
Because we're Charlton this could be a distinct possibility.
I really hope it doesn't get to that situation but this season as many lifers have said has been coming for over 10 years at least.
I imagine there is a clause should we go done he leaves.
If there is then our owners and SMT are even more stupid than any of us could have imagined. If Jones was looking for that then we should have told him to jog on.
After watching that dross yesterday are we certain that Jones is really interested in coaching\managing us. It seems odd to me that any one would want to.
This is the chance for him to rebuild after Stoke and Southampton. He knows the club, I presume he's been told what the 'owners' plans/project is and he has the chance to prove a point. If he can do for us what he did for Luton then it’s win/win. So yes I do think he's more than interested to be that person that digs us out of a huge hole!
He knows the club. Despite it completely changing since he was last here.
After watching that dross yesterday are we certain that Jones is really interested in coaching\managing us. It seems odd to me that any one would want to.
A far too much used word...which I agree is apt to describe some of our performances this season, but not yesterday, against a top two side, we went toe to toe for large parts of the game, and had them in real trouble at times, and apart from a lapse in concentration which gifted them their goal, we were more than in the game, even Derby supporters thought we were unlucky... We deserved a point and 0-0 would have been fairer, so "dross" it wasn't...
After watching that dross yesterday are we certain that Jones is really interested in coaching\managing us. It seems odd to me that any one would want to.
This is the chance for him to rebuild after Stoke and Southampton. He knows the club, I presume he's been told what the 'owners' plans/project is and he has the chance to prove a point. If he can do for us what he did for Luton then it’s win/win. So yes I do think he's more than interested to be that person that digs us out of a huge hole!
He knows the club. Despite it completely changing since he was last here.
I understand what you're saying but some people were asking for CP or LB to come back and the club has completely changed since they were last here as well!
Listening to NTT20 podcast last week when talking about us they said that there isn’t a team in the country more primed for a new manager bounce than us. They seem to believe that with the right manager this team can be a good side.
I think the general outside perspective is that we're massively underachieving with the players we have available to us.
If they had actually watched us in recent games they might have a different view!
Sorry, but I don't buy this LMA thing. They are just a "Trade Union" for managers. I doubt they get much say in agreeing a contract. Yes, they may give advice to their "members" as to the content of it & whether any special clauses should be added or omitted, but in the final analysis if Jones is happy with what we are offering he just needs to sign it.
Seems like there must be some unusual / contentious clauses in it for the LMA to be "making alterations" to it. Probably is a relegation clause or a "freedom to move if a better offer comes along" option being inserted. For his benefit I would say, not ours.
When I received a contract of employment when joining a county cricket club in 2000 (in a non playing capacity I hasten to add!) I had my solicitor give it the once over just to be on the safe side, as it was different to the contract of employments I had previously used when employing people in the financial world.
My hope is the return of Pan and Chuks will bring the quality we need to stay up. We certainly have enough to stay up, Jonesy just needs to get a tune out of them.
My hope is the return of Pan and Chuks will bring the quality we need to stay up. We certainly have enough to stay up, Jonesy just needs to get a tune out of them.
I await all three of their collective appearances with anticipation
Sorry, but I don't buy this LMA thing. They are just a "Trade Union" for managers. I doubt they get much say in agreeing a contract. Yes, they may give advice to their "members" as to the content of it & whether any special clauses should be added or omitted, but in the final analysis if Jones is happy with what we are offering he just needs to sign it.
Seems like there must be some unusual / contentious clauses in it for the LMA to be "making alterations" to it. Probably is a relegation clause or a "freedom to move if a better offer comes along" option being inserted. For his benefit I would say, not ours.
My feelings also. Wouldn’t you expect that someone like Jones would have his own lawyers and not rely on the LMA lawyers (?) who are not directly under his instructions ? Just seems odd to me. Never heard it being an issue before. Perhaps I’ve never noticed but quite what authority or control the LMA have I’m not sure.
My hope is the return of Pan and Chuks will bring the quality we need to stay up. We certainly have enough to stay up, Jonesy just needs to get a tune out of them.
I await all three of their collective appearances with anticipation
Could the LMA thing be because NJ doesn’t have an agent (I have no idea if he has one or not) and they provide free support to their members, like the PFA?
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We deserved a point and 0-0 would have been fairer, so "dross" it wasn't...
Seems like there must be some unusual / contentious clauses in it for the LMA to be "making alterations" to it. Probably is a relegation clause or a "freedom to move if a better offer comes along" option being inserted. For his benefit I would say, not ours.
(Not that I believe in sanity clause)
Keep us up and get us properly competing in the top 6 from August to May 25 and he'll have earned every penny.
Win
Synonyms: gain, get, receive, land [informal]
Antonym: lose, but we all remember that one.