A lot of Rose tinted glasses about our academy but those lads out there today are just not good enough for L1. Combine that with a bunch of journeymen who aren’t good enough and it’s a lower position L1 team who will probably flirt with relegation unless there is an injection of capital from our esteemed owners.
This.
Over the years the academy had produced diamonds like Gomez, Shelvey & Parker. In between those we have produced many a second rate player. However, too frequently recently the club has tried to rely on producing more diamonds to be the mainstays of the team whereas the players have been nearer to the second rate ones.
Players like Kanu, Campbell & Asimwee shouldn't be playing in the first team.
I don't think the current ownership is capable of hiring a good manager or recruiting a competent squad, you can give them as many transfer windows as you like.
They actually make the guitar playing egoist and his hapless son look like professionals.
An appalling performance,their goal was preceded by 6 ,yes 6 mistakes.Just look at it,Hector somehow hits the ball 90 degrees up in the air attempting a clearance,AMb attempts to punch clear goes about 6 feet to Fraser who manages somehow to get the ball to CBT who basically abandons ship and allows their guy a free run at Edun who dives in and misses ,Jones attempt to cut out the cross is laughable,as the ball sails through to one of 3 players totally unmarked..Is this the worst Charlton side ever,it cant be far off. Just watch the difference,Pratley gave a ball away,and sprinted 40 yards to correct his error,ours dont even chase the guy they give the ball to. Every throw in or corner was met with sheer panic and total inability to deal with the situation,we could go down this year as I really dont see where any improvement can come from.
I felt no real emotion when Appleton was appointed frankly because he’s not the sort of appointment that inspires any emotion. He has as much charisma as a tin of magnolia paint. What disappointed me is that he is the sort of routine mark time appointment that the stagnant or punching above their weight clubs make and I was sorry that that was what we had come to. All the more so as it was a statement of intent from our brave new owners. It is already clear that it was a mistake. He is evidently not getting the best out of a squad that is in itself hugely overrated. We had better players in every position today than Orient but we were rank bad. Kanu on the wing, Alfie on the wing. 75 minutes to make any changes. Absolutely clueless. He cannot be allowed to input into a transfer window surely as Scott and co must now realise that he has lost both the dressing room and what is left of the rapidly diminishing support. Half season tickets are available folks. Yeah right!!! Another season rendered pointless before the New Year (unless we capitulate completely but there is some proper sh1t below us so I’m assuming heroically that we won’t).
Appleton aside though, do we really continue with the view that we have a playoff worthy squad? Leave our crocks aside for a minute. We laud George as our finest even though he is no more than a journeyman league 1 standard midfielder who makes up in effort and determination what he lacks in genuine class. Fair play to him but we overrate him. As we do CBT who flatters to deceive for about ten minutes per game. Hector could be romping it at Premier league level. He has all the assets. But he isn’t and there’s a reason for that. We have nothing in midfield. Fraser and C Campbell are lightweights. L Watson I fear flatters to deceive but isn’t getting the chance to prove otherwise. We haven’t had a decent keeper since Dillon. Our youngsters are overrated and thrown in before they are ready. T Watson, Edun etc are just, well, beige. We are not as good as we think we are folks (or as we feel entitled to think). That said, we are a damn sight better than we have been producing. There are shining lights like Alfie, Jones and (despite my assessment above) Dobbo. But they are not enough. This team needs major surgery. And quickly. But most of all we need a forward thinking manager who can be given the resources to change the direction of this once mighty club before we disappear completely into oblivion. Before you ask, I don’t know who that person is. But it isn’t my job to know. I sure know who it isn’t!!!
Any reason why we cant look into just keeping the Match thread as the Post Match thread? Just lost a Grapevine sized post on there because it was closed halfway though typing it.
Get yourself one of these little gizmos. You'll never regret it, especially if you use the money you've put by to watch Charlton. Win win (except for Charlton).
Yeah, but once you press "post" when the thread has been closed, the text box dissappears along with anything that was in it
It just doesn't feel like the club I love. The results obviously matter, but it's the complete lack of performance - MA has said it without saying it that he doesn't believe in the majority of the players, and these players know this. We're now getting performances from players that neither care about wearing the shirt and are not good enough to compete at the level required at the club.
Overall, a terrible, gutless performance from players that should easily be winning games like this. I think more of the blame is now going towards the manager, due to not really changing it up - although, what can he really do, aside from throw more kids in? He's setting us up to try and be tougher to beat, but several players can't do ~100 mins of football and we make fundamental defensive mistakes that, in this league, cost you points. All of our defenders have been guilty of this at different times this season.
Some of it is just dumb though - AMB sending long balls up top to May, Kanu and CBT. Holy sh*t - this drove me mental. Pretty certain we were something like 0/15 for contesting those balls. Just tell the lad not to do it and build through our defense and midfield. CCampbell is not a 10 and Fraser shouldn't be playing CM - this is probably where most of our woes actually lie, aside from the defensive mistakes. CBT has gone off the boil and Kanu is, understandably, a boy amongst men.
The way we played today, we look like relegation fodder. We'd probably struggle against most of L2 playing like that. Barely anything going forward and a regularly looking like making the same defensive mistakes we've made all season. I don't think January can fix it, barring a miracle.
I felt no real emotion when Appleton was appointed frankly because he’s not the sort of appointment that inspires any emotion. He has as much charisma as a tin of magnolia paint. What disappointed me is that he is the sort of routine mark time appointment that the stagnant or punching above their weight clubs make and I was sorry that that was what we had come to. All the more so as it was a statement of intent from our brave new owners. It is already clear that it was a mistake. He is evidently not getting the best out of a squad that is in itself hugely overrated. We had better players in every position today than Orient but we were rank bad. Kanu on the wing, Alfie on the wing. 75 minutes to make any changes. Absolutely clueless. He cannot be allowed to input into a transfer window surely as Scott and co must now realise that he has lost both the dressing room and what is left of the rapidly diminishing support. Half season tickets are available folks. Yeah right!!! Another season rendered pointless before the New Year (unless we capitulate completely but there is some proper sh1t below us so I’m assuming heroically that we won’t).
Appleton aside though, do we really continue with the view that we have a playoff worthy squad? Leave our crocks aside for a minute. We laud George as our finest even though he is no more than a journeyman league 1 standard midfielder who makes up in effort and determination what he lacks in genuine class. Fair play to him but we overrate him. As we do CBT who flatters to deceive for about ten minutes per game. Hector could be romping it at Premier league level. He has all the assets. But he isn’t and there’s a reason for that. We have nothing in midfield. Fraser and C Campbell are lightweights. L Watson I fear flatters to deceive but isn’t getting the chance to prove otherwise. We haven’t had a decent keeper since Dillon. Our youngsters are overrated and thrown in before they are ready. T Watson, Edun etc are just, well, beige. We are not as good as we think we are folks (or as we feel entitled to think). That said, we are a damn sight better than we have been producing. There are shining lights like Alfie, Jones and (despite my assessment above) Dobbo. But they are not enough. This team needs major surgery. And quickly. But most of all we need a forward thinking manager who can be given the resources to change the direction of this once mighty club before we disappear completely into oblivion. Before you ask, I don’t know who that person is. But it isn’t my job to know. I sure know who it isn’t!!!
Happy Christmas!
I hope 'there is some proper sh1t below us,' because I am beginning to get a bit worried!!!
Brownie & Lisbie tearing the team's attitude and work ethic to shreds.
Brownie gets it, never gonna happen but give him the job! Thinks like a fan and has football experience. Could not be any worse than it is now? Plus he'll be cheap which seems to be the preferred option for a managerial position, who ever the owner is/are....
So here we are again! I could revert to my time worn expletive in bold, paragraph type and leave it at that. It covers all sorts of emotions in these now resigned familiar circumstances.
I could dash off a long winded post amongst the many about what we all know is wrong.
Brownie & Lisbie tearing the team's attitude and work ethic to shreds.
Brownie gets it, never gonna happen but give him the job! Thinks like a fan and has football experience. Could not be any worse than it is now? Plus he'll be cheap which seems to be the preferred option for a managerial position, who ever the owner is/are....
Players these days can’t be managed by the likes of Brownie. Poor cherubs 🙄
I felt no real emotion when Appleton was appointed frankly because he’s not the sort of appointment that inspires any emotion. He has as much charisma as a tin of magnolia paint. What disappointed me is that he is the sort of routine mark time appointment that the stagnant or punching above their weight clubs make and I was sorry that that was what we had come to. All the more so as it was a statement of intent from our brave new owners. It is already clear that it was a mistake. He is evidently not getting the best out of a squad that is in itself hugely overrated. We had better players in every position today than Orient but we were rank bad. Kanu on the wing, Alfie on the wing. 75 minutes to make any changes. Absolutely clueless. He cannot be allowed to input into a transfer window surely as Scott and co must now realise that he has lost both the dressing room and what is left of the rapidly diminishing support. Half season tickets are available folks. Yeah right!!! Another season rendered pointless before the New Year (unless we capitulate completely but there is some proper sh1t below us so I’m assuming heroically that we won’t).
Appleton aside though, do we really continue with the view that we have a playoff worthy squad? Leave our crocks aside for a minute. We laud George as our finest even though he is no more than a journeyman league 1 standard midfielder who makes up in effort and determination what he lacks in genuine class. Fair play to him but we overrate him. As we do CBT who flatters to deceive for about ten minutes per game. Hector could be romping it at Premier league level. He has all the assets. But he isn’t and there’s a reason for that. We have nothing in midfield. Fraser and C Campbell are lightweights. L Watson I fear flatters to deceive but isn’t getting the chance to prove otherwise. We haven’t had a decent keeper since Dillon. Our youngsters are overrated and thrown in before they are ready. T Watson, Edun etc are just, well, beige. We are not as good as we think we are folks (or as we feel entitled to think). That said, we are a damn sight better than we have been producing. There are shining lights like Alfie, Jones and (despite my assessment above) Dobbo. But they are not enough. This team needs major surgery. And quickly. But most of all we need a forward thinking manager who can be given the resources to change the direction of this once mighty club before we disappear completely into oblivion. Before you ask, I don’t know who that person is. But it isn’t my job to know. I sure know who it isn’t!!!
Only positive was the crowd fully turned on them at the end, both players and Appleton.
I genuinely hate every single one of them.
1. "only positive was the crowd turned on them". what possibly positive can come from that? 2. If you "hate" them please take a break it will be better for you own mental health.
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Fuck Duchatelet, ESI, Sandgaard and whoever owns us now. How the hell do we get out of this?
Instead of saying £160 they need to say COMP.
Over the years the academy had produced diamonds like Gomez, Shelvey & Parker. In between those we have produced many a second rate player. However, too frequently recently the club has tried to rely on producing more diamonds to be the mainstays of the team whereas the players have been nearer to the second rate ones.
Players like Kanu, Campbell & Asimwee shouldn't be playing in the first team.
Just watch the difference,Pratley gave a ball away,and sprinted 40 yards to correct his error,ours dont even chase the guy they give the ball to.
Every throw in or corner was met with sheer panic and total inability to deal with the situation,we could go down this year as I really dont see where any improvement can come from.
Appleton aside though, do we really continue with the view that we have a playoff worthy squad? Leave our crocks aside for a minute. We laud George as our finest even though he is no more than a journeyman league 1 standard midfielder who makes up in effort and determination what he lacks in genuine class. Fair play to him but we overrate him. As we do CBT who flatters to deceive for about ten minutes per game. Hector could be romping it at Premier league level. He has all the assets. But he isn’t and there’s a reason for that. We have nothing in midfield. Fraser and C Campbell are lightweights. L Watson I fear flatters to deceive but isn’t getting the chance to prove otherwise. We haven’t had a decent keeper since Dillon. Our youngsters are overrated and thrown in before they are ready. T Watson, Edun etc are just, well, beige. We are not as good as we think we are folks (or as we feel entitled to think). That said, we are a damn sight better than we have been producing. There are shining lights like Alfie, Jones and (despite my assessment above) Dobbo. But they are not enough. This team needs major surgery. And quickly. But most of all we need a forward thinking manager who can be given the resources to change the direction of this once mighty club before we disappear completely into oblivion. Before you ask, I don’t know who that person is. But it isn’t my job to know. I sure know who it isn’t!!!
Happy Christmas!
Overall, a terrible, gutless performance from players that should easily be winning games like this. I think more of the blame is now going towards the manager, due to not really changing it up - although, what can he really do, aside from throw more kids in? He's setting us up to try and be tougher to beat, but several players can't do ~100 mins of football and we make fundamental defensive mistakes that, in this league, cost you points. All of our defenders have been guilty of this at different times this season.
Some of it is just dumb though - AMB sending long balls up top to May, Kanu and CBT. Holy sh*t - this drove me mental. Pretty certain we were something like 0/15 for contesting those balls. Just tell the lad not to do it and build through our defense and midfield. CCampbell is not a 10 and Fraser shouldn't be playing CM - this is probably where most of our woes actually lie, aside from the defensive mistakes. CBT has gone off the boil and Kanu is, understandably, a boy amongst men.
The way we played today, we look like relegation fodder. We'd probably struggle against most of L2 playing like that. Barely anything going forward and a regularly looking like making the same defensive mistakes we've made all season. I don't think January can fix it, barring a miracle.
Looking like yet another waste of a season
Plus he'll be cheap which seems to be the preferred option for a managerial position, who ever the owner is/are....
I could dash off a long winded post amongst the many about what we all know is wrong.
This club is dying. Sigh!
Poor cherubs 🙄
state of some of our fans. Completely deluded
So's a Donkey, you wouldn't have a donkey in charge...hang on a minute...🤔
2. If you "hate" them please take a break it will be better for you own mental health.