To be honest the signings Scott managed to bring in last time were awful - how come you all think they are going to be any better? He has had all season to line up another striker to get through the door early to make an impact before our first game away - he’s failed again.
Let’s face it we are a struggling league one club - who is going to want to come to join us ?!?!?
Andy Scott is responsible for the buying and selling of players. Plus the hiring and firing of managers. I shall judge how well he is doing by looking at our league position. The rest is just noise.
What bothers me is AS and the owners have known for weeks now (maybe a month or 2) that Miles is out for the season, Chucks is unreliable due to his injury record, Tedic is not good enough and Kanu, Casey etc are not yet up to playing L1 week in week out. Yet here we are, especially if May is still injured, going into tomorrow's game without a proven and experienced striker. You would think, at least I would, that AS would be breaking his neck to get a striker in, in time for tomorrow, he should've have seen the situation and been working on a deal(s), since November! If this situation continues for a few more games, we could well be in a full relegation scrap. If that's the case, crowds will dwindle even more, and other players in other positions may decide not to join us! So my immediate concern is a striker, as mentioned above, should be an urgent priority! It'll be interesting to hear what MA has to say in his press conference today.
Is this the earliest in a transfer window people have been throwing wobblies? Fuck me, it's almost like there's a competition on being first to moan about absolutely everything
It's embarrassing really. Transfers take time to see through so patience is needed, aint like picking something in a shop and having it there and then!
If only we knew when the transfer window was going to open instead of it being sprung on us so late. Bloody EFL 🤔🤭.
You can talk 10 minutes before or 10 months before it opens...things can change at any point of any deal and then with that comes the time its takes to get it sorted.
What is so hard to understand about that?
That it’s not entirely down to our competence (or lack of) and that there are other factors at play such as the plans and thoughts of the players, clubs and agents involved? Good players usually have more than one club interested in them, not many deals are lined up to go through on 1st January.
What bothers me is AS and the owners have known for weeks now (maybe a month or 2) that Miles is out for the season, Chucks is unreliable due to his injury record, Tedic is not good enough and Kanu, Casey etc are not yet up to playing L1 week in week out. Yet here we are, especially if May is still injured, going into tomorrow's game without a proven and experienced striker. You would think, at least I would, that AS would be breaking his neck to get a striker in, in time for tomorrow, he should've have seen the situation and been working on a deal(s), since November! If this situation continues for a few more games, we could well be in a full relegation scrap. If that's the case, crowds will dwindle even more, and other players in other positions may decide not to join us! So my immediate concern is a striker, as mentioned above, should be an urgent priority! It'll be interesting to hear what MA has to say in his press conference today.
I get that as well, but would assume the players we are in for will also have other options, and likely better options as well.
What bothers me is AS and the owners have known for weeks now (maybe a month or 2) that Miles is out for the season, Chucks is unreliable due to his injury record, Tedic is not good enough and Kanu, Casey etc are not yet up to playing L1 week in week out. Yet here we are, especially if May is still injured, going into tomorrow's game without a proven and experienced striker. You would think, at least I would, that AS would be breaking his neck to get a striker in, in time for tomorrow, he should've have seen the situation and been working on a deal(s), since November! If this situation continues for a few more games, we could well be in a full relegation scrap. If that's the case, crowds will dwindle even more, and other players in other positions may decide not to join us! So my immediate concern is a striker, as mentioned above, should be an urgent priority! It'll be interesting to hear what MA has to say in his press conference today.
I get that as well, but would assume the players we are in for will also have other options, and likely better options as well.
So it's all noise about who we like and want No point in liking and wanting players we cannot get. The league position we are in sits at their door. They reviewed the squad a year ago They did their due diligence buying the club Three of their team were in situ 12 months ago They knew our previous manager They hired this manager Set targets Set realistic targets Speak to clubs in advance of the window of those targets Buy players we can afford and who want to come to us If you keep trying to buy players you can't afford; aren't for sale, or who don't want to join you
That's really bad business
This lies 100% at their door Any failure is their failure . It really IS that simple However else you dress it up
I am not interested in apologists for them saying "they tried", "other clubs are in for them"
We have no fit senior striker We've won 2 of our last 12, losing the last 3 We've not kept a clean sheet in 12 We're 6 points above the relegation zone 2 of our best players don't appear to want to sign a new contract
We've known about our long term injuries and contract situation for MONTHS now
Absolutely astonishing that after the last three transfer windows there are still fans prepared to defend the lack of signings this week.
A couple of weeks ago, MA mentioned two were good to go. A player was triumphantly led around the lounges before the Oxford game, who Mendez confirmed last night did not fail his medical.
So what is going on? My view is Scott has no one in the club he can go to for authorising sacking the manager. With our ownership, such a zoom call takes a lot of organising. Meanwhile, we hurtle into a relegation scrap.
We need a forward.....will be disappointing if we haven't signed on for Saturday's game.....
Strikers are the hardest position to fill .. said before Peterbro not going to sell us a striker when we are playing them next week … last thing they want is him scoring the winner against them
wouldnt they just put a clause in that he doesnt play against them or is that only loans
Think that has become against the rules a few years back.
Absolutely astonishing that after the last three transfer windows there are still fans prepared to defend the lack of signings this week.
A couple of weeks ago, MA mentioned two were good to go. A player was triumphantly led around the lounges before the Oxford game, who Mendez confirmed last night did not fail his medical.
So what is going on? My view is Scott has no one in the club he can go to for authorising sacking the manager. With our ownership, such a zoom call takes a lot of organising. Meanwhile, we hurtle into a relegation scrap.
My club but blimey we are an absolute disgrace.
General question, how long does it take the EFL to approve a transfer, or complete whatever process they go through?
there are a few options as to why transfers haven't been announced or completed yet
1. Club incompetence 2. waiting for efl approval 3. shithousery. Announce the signings late to f*ck with Port vales plans.
My view is options 1 and 2 are the most likely but hoping for a bit of no 3.
Just listened to SLP Pod, latest on JCH is... Latest bid for JCH was around 350k with add ons. Peterborough want around 500k. Player wants the move. Rich reckons this one that will be completed towards the end of the window.
Just listened to SLP Pod, latest on JCH is... Latest bid for JCH was around 350k with add ons. Peterborough want around 500k. Player wants the move. Rich reckons this one that will be completed towards the end of the window.
Encouraging if true that the player wants the move.
to those that think people are hysterical for wondering why we haven't signed anyone yet and are concerned we could be in for a bad window, here's what it looks like to be a club who give a shit and want to at least try and turn it around:
Clearly they've been planning for the window opening as Doucher has said you can do, we can't afford to scramble around. If we have played Port Vale and Peterborough without any new faces in, it’s a bit of a liberty and means there's been no actual plans in place or strategy.
I will say it again, I don’t trust them to get it right and the proof for me is in the last two windows, and not 4 days into this one.
However the cognitive dissonance currently from large chunks of the fan base is obvious. There is no evidence that the club do not care, or are currently not doing anything based on the fact Carlisle - who are in a complete different position to us - have signed three players.
Just as much as there is no evidence the club are not doing anything based on the fact that we *could* have spoken to a club about a player earlier, but have only recently done so because the club in question have started shopping said player out.
In my mind, our season is gone. We won’t get promoted, and as much as people seem to want to get dramatic, we won’t get relegated either. We should be preparing for next season now, and getting in some quality well thought out players in this window - and that takes time.
The evidence as ever will be at the end of this window. If we end up with similar guff to last couple, then there’s no excuses. If we get in players the quality of JCH, Coventry etc - then there probably has been.
Just listened to SLP Pod, latest on JCH is... Latest bid for JCH was around 350k with add ons. Peterborough want around 500k. Player wants the move. Rich reckons this one that will be completed towards the end of the window.
Tedic going back must mean there's at least some confidence of Alfie being fit for the weekend and a striker being in close behind. Wouldn't want to go too many games with Kanu and Casey as backup , it's just not fair on them as youngsters.
Just listened to SLP Pod, latest on JCH is... Latest bid for JCH was around 350k with add ons. Peterborough want around 500k. Player wants the move. Rich reckons this one that will be completed towards the end of the window.
Encouraging if true that the player wants the move.
Peterbro said they want 800,000 and we offered 450,000 ?
Absolutely astonishing that after the last three transfer windows there are still fans prepared to defend the lack of signings this week.
A couple of weeks ago, MA mentioned two were good to go. A player was triumphantly led around the lounges before the Oxford game, who Mendez confirmed last night did not fail his medical.
So what is going on? My view is Scott has no one in the club he can go to for authorising sacking the manager. With our ownership, such a zoom call takes a lot of organising. Meanwhile, we hurtle into a relegation scrap.
My club but blimey we are an absolute disgrace.
Isn’t Scott in control of hiring and firing managers? I doubt he needs approval from the many owners for footballing decisions. They’re not like RD or TS who wanted to get involved in day to day footballing decisions.
Either way I think he’ll stick with MA for longer as he’ll won’t want to go through another manager this season and he’s recognised the squad is lacking so will give him time to see how he does with the new signings we’ll make this month.
Just listened to SLP Pod, latest on JCH is... Latest bid for JCH was around 350k with add ons. Peterborough want around 500k. Player wants the move. Rich reckons this one that will be completed towards the end of the window.
Interesting. I said earlier that 500k was the upper limit of what I would pay.
Assume the add ons will be if he reaches a certain amount of goals for us and if we get promoted?
Just listened to SLP Pod, latest on JCH is... Latest bid for JCH was around 350k with add ons. Peterborough want around 500k. Player wants the move. Rich reckons this one that will be completed towards the end of the window.
Encouraging if true that the player wants the move.
Peterbro said they want 800,000 and we offered 450,000 ?
Peterborough also said Gillingham wanted to sign him…..& Stephen Clemence (Gills boss) confirmed the next day that this was rubbish.
Dont believe everything you read @RonnieMoore. Especially when it’s come from people like Darragh or Barry Fry who naturally are just trying to get as much money as they can.
Just listened to SLP Pod, latest on JCH is... Latest bid for JCH was around 350k with add ons. Peterborough want around 500k. Player wants the move. Rich reckons this one that will be completed towards the end of the window.
Their owner has said they have turned down 450k, be curious to know who that was then as it wasn't us?
Assuming we can afford him and their owner is willing to accept, I don't know why we would risk waiting till the end of the window when he could be scoring goals for us in that time frame and another club could come in.
I'd love to know our finances and what we can afford to fork out etc.
My stance on JCH is that it isn't my money so I don't care if the club pay over what he's worth, be nice to watch quality players instead of the likes of Tedic.
You'd think that tweet was made by a teenager though tbh on a side note
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Let’s face it we are a struggling league one club - who is going to want to come to join us ?!?!?
Plus the hiring and firing of managers.
I shall judge how well he is doing by looking at our league position.
The rest is just noise.
Yet here we are, especially if May is still injured, going into tomorrow's game without a proven and experienced striker.
You would think, at least I would, that AS would be breaking his neck to get a striker in, in time for tomorrow, he should've have seen the situation and been working on a deal(s), since November!
If this situation continues for a few more games, we could well be in a full relegation scrap. If that's the case, crowds will dwindle even more, and other players in other positions may decide not to join us!
So my immediate concern is a striker, as mentioned above, should be an urgent priority!
It'll be interesting to hear what MA has to say in his press conference today.
No point in liking and wanting players we cannot get.
The league position we are in sits at their door.
They reviewed the squad a year ago
They did their due diligence buying the club
Three of their team were in situ 12 months ago
They knew our previous manager
They hired this manager
Set targets
Set realistic targets
Speak to clubs in advance of the window of those targets
Buy players we can afford and who want to come to us
If you keep trying to buy players you can't afford; aren't for sale, or who don't want to join you
That's really bad business
This lies 100% at their door
Any failure is their failure
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It really IS that simple
However else you dress it up
I am not interested in apologists for them saying "they tried", "other clubs are in for them"
We have no fit senior striker
We've won 2 of our last 12, losing the last 3
We've not kept a clean sheet in 12
We're 6 points above the relegation zone
2 of our best players don't appear to want to sign a new contract
We've known about our long term injuries and contract situation for MONTHS now
A couple of weeks ago, MA mentioned two were good to go. A player was triumphantly led around the lounges before the Oxford game, who Mendez confirmed last night did not fail his medical.
So what is going on? My view is Scott has no one in the club he can go to for authorising sacking the manager. With our ownership, such a zoom call takes a lot of organising. Meanwhile, we hurtle into a relegation scrap.
My club but blimey we are an absolute disgrace.
Confirmed EFL signings = 16
Confirmed L1 signings = 8
there are a few options as to why transfers haven't been announced or completed yet
1. Club incompetence
2. waiting for efl approval
3. shithousery. Announce the signings late to f*ck with Port vales plans.
My view is options 1 and 2 are the most likely but hoping for a bit of no 3.
Latest bid for JCH was around 350k with add ons.
Peterborough want around 500k.
Player wants the move.
Rich reckons this one that will be completed towards the end of the window.
Encouraging if true that the player wants the move.
However the cognitive dissonance currently from large chunks of the fan base is obvious. There is no evidence that the club do not care, or are currently not doing anything based on the fact Carlisle - who are in a complete different position to us - have signed three players.
The evidence as ever will be at the end of this window. If we end up with similar guff to last couple, then there’s no excuses. If we get in players the quality of JCH, Coventry etc - then there probably has been.
Should we have a whip round for the other 150k?
Either way I think he’ll stick with MA for longer as he’ll won’t want to go through another manager this season and he’s recognised the squad is lacking so will give him time to see how he does with the new signings we’ll make this month.
Assume the add ons will be if he reaches a certain amount of goals for us and if we get promoted?
Also working on a deal for Manchester city midfielder Lewis Fiorini
Cawley just tweeted about them
Good player but we should be focusing on next season
Dont believe everything you read @RonnieMoore. Especially when it’s come from people like Darragh or Barry Fry who naturally are just trying to get as much money as they can.
Otherwise they are a waste of time but that’s up to Scott. It’s his job at the end of the day
Their owner has said they have turned down 450k, be curious to know who that was then as it wasn't us?
Assuming we can afford him and their owner is willing to accept, I don't know why we would risk waiting till the end of the window when he could be scoring goals for us in that time frame and another club could come in.
I'd love to know our finances and what we can afford to fork out etc.
My stance on JCH is that it isn't my money so I don't care if the club pay over what he's worth, be nice to watch quality players instead of the likes of Tedic.
You'd think that tweet was made by a teenager though tbh on a side note