Coventry isn’t one I have heard, but if true I would imagine would be a permanent signing, he certainly fits the type of players we are looking.
I would add, that Dobson has been offer a take or leave or deal, if he doesn’t sign, he will be gone, same as CBT. But I think that is old news.
As I mentioned there is going to be a lot of transactions this month, in and out of the club. I honestly think these owners want to a big go at, I get to fans are once bitten twice as shy, and want instant success, but personally I feel we need to give them a bit of time, they haven’t done anything alarmingly wrong at the moment. They have a strategy and a plan, and it is certainly bette than the last few owners that’s for sure!
As I go back, there is a base on here would only be happy if it was Varney that took over!
It is a big month for Scott, if no improvement then we deserve to go after him, but at the moment the jury is out for me!
Why did we not do this in the summer?! They’ve basically wasted a season (and a very weak league 1) and missed a great opportunity.
If the money is there now, why wasn’t it in the summer? Just seems like a bit of an odd approach
Coventry isn’t one I have heard, but if true I would imagine would be a permanent signing, he certainly fits the type of players we are looking.
I would add, that Dobson has been offer a take or leave or deal, if he doesn’t sign, he will be gone, same as CBT. But I think that is old news.
As I mentioned there is going to be a lot of transactions this month, in and out of the club. I honestly think these owners want to a big go at, I get to fans are once bitten twice as shy, and want instant success, but personally I feel we need to give them a bit of time, they haven’t done anything alarmingly wrong at the moment. They have a strategy and a plan, and it is certainly bette than the last few owners that’s for sure!
As I go back, there is a base on here would only be happy if it was Varney that took over!
It is a big month for Scott, if no improvement then we deserve to go after him, but at the moment the jury is out for me!
Just win games. It's pretty simple. Currently failing.
Coventry isn’t one I have heard, but if true I would imagine would be a permanent signing, he certainly fits the type of players we are looking.
I would add, that Dobson has been offer a take or leave or deal, if he doesn’t sign, he will be gone, same as CBT. But I think that is old news.
As I mentioned there is going to be a lot of transactions this month, in and out of the club. I honestly think these owners want to a big go at, I get to fans are once bitten twice as shy, and want instant success, but personally I feel we need to give them a bit of time, they haven’t done anything alarmingly wrong at the moment. They have a strategy and a plan, and it is certainly bette than the last few owners that’s for sure!
As I go back, there is a base on here would only be happy if it was Varney that took over!
It is a big month for Scott, if no improvement then we deserve to go after him, but at the moment the jury is out for me!
Why did we not do this in the summer?! They’ve basically wasted a season (and a very weak league 1) and missed a great opportunity.
If the money is there now, why wasn’t it in the summer? Just seems like a bit of an odd approach
Because basically the whole window was planned around Holden… he basically got the younger small squad he wanted!
Coventry isn’t one I have heard, but if true I would imagine would be a permanent signing, he certainly fits the type of players we are looking.
I would add, that Dobson has been offer a take or leave or deal, if he doesn’t sign, he will be gone, same as CBT. But I think that is old news.
As I mentioned there is going to be a lot of transactions this month, in and out of the club. I honestly think these owners want to a big go at, I get to fans are once bitten twice as shy, and want instant success, but personally I feel we need to give them a bit of time, they haven’t done anything alarmingly wrong at the moment. They have a strategy and a plan, and it is certainly bette than the last few owners that’s for sure!
As I go back, there is a base on here would only be happy if it was Varney that took over!
It is a big month for Scott, if no improvement then we deserve to go after him, but at the moment the jury is out for me!
You obviously get some useful info but so often it's given alongside you criticising Charlton fans for not liking this ownership and digging them out for wanting something different. I get that you're close to them in some way but it hasn't exactly been good so far has it? I'd love if we could have the rumours without the biased commentary alongside it.
"they haven’t done anything alarmingly wrong at the moment. They have a strategy and a plan, and it is certainly bette than the last few owners that’s for sure!"
We have signed the worst collection of loanees and free transfers in living memory We have signed a non descript manager who appears to be regressing our highly lauded youngsters We have not kept a clean sheet in 12 games We have drawn with Cray Valley Paper Mills and lost to Gillingham in the FA Cup (with a near first choice team) We have lost three games in a row and only won twice in twelve games We sit in the bottom half of Division 3 The crowds are rapidly disappearing We have left Dobson and CBT with contracts that they do not wish to extend - it's all well and good doing a "take it or leave it offer" but we're not really attractive a proposition right now
I use "We" - but I mean THEY.
Their strategy and plan CLEARLY isn't working - why we NEARLY got a point yesterday, at home, to Oxford - a side with 8-10 first choice players missing/injured!
If you don't think the above is alarmingly wrong, then it's because you want to believe everything you are told.
Come to London and endure, sorry I mean, enjoy the lovely atmosphere at the Valley and watch our greatest side of all time with your own eyes.........
I HOPE TO GOD they improve what they are doing, but to say they have done nothing alarmingly wrong at the moment is absolute nonsense.
Coventry isn’t one I have heard, but if true I would imagine would be a permanent signing, he certainly fits the type of players we are looking.
I would add, that Dobson has been offer a take or leave or deal, if he doesn’t sign, he will be gone, same as CBT. But I think that is old news.
As I mentioned there is going to be a lot of transactions this month, in and out of the club. I honestly think these owners want to a big go at, I get to fans are once bitten twice as shy, and want instant success, but personally I feel we need to give them a bit of time, they haven’t done anything alarmingly wrong at the moment. They have a strategy and a plan, and it is certainly bette than the last few owners that’s for sure!
As I go back, there is a base on here would only be happy if it was Varney that took over!
It is a big month for Scott, if no improvement then we deserve to go after him, but at the moment the jury is out for me!
Why did we not do this in the summer?! They’ve basically wasted a season (and a very weak league 1) and missed a great opportunity.
If the money is there now, why wasn’t it in the summer? Just seems like a bit of an odd approach
Because basically the whole window was planned around Holden… he basically got the younger small squad he wanted!
So we had money to spend but Holden didn’t want to? Yeah that sounds likely😂
Coventry isn’t one I have heard, but if true I would imagine would be a permanent signing, he certainly fits the type of players we are looking.
I would add, that Dobson has been offer a take or leave or deal, if he doesn’t sign, he will be gone, same as CBT. But I think that is old news.
As I mentioned there is going to be a lot of transactions this month, in and out of the club. I honestly think these owners want to a big go at, I get to fans are once bitten twice as shy, and want instant success, but personally I feel we need to give them a bit of time, they haven’t done anything alarmingly wrong at the moment. They have a strategy and a plan, and it is certainly bette than the last few owners that’s for sure!
As I go back, there is a base on here would only be happy if it was Varney that took over!
It is a big month for Scott, if no improvement then we deserve to go after him, but at the moment the jury is out for me!
Why did we not do this in the summer?! They’ve basically wasted a season (and a very weak league 1) and missed a great opportunity.
If the money is there now, why wasn’t it in the summer? Just seems like a bit of an odd approach
Because basically the whole window was planned around Holden… he basically got the younger small squad he wanted!
But you were very happy with that squad weren't you? I seem to remember you were one of the few saying it was more than good enough.
Glad we are playing hardball with Dobson & CBT, would hate to be one of those silly clubs who actually negotiate to try to keep our best players.
I agree - we should genuinely be moving heaven and earth to keep these two right now! Unless we get 5 or 6 in beforehand and then we let them go. It seems crazy that our best two players currently fit are being considered to be sold whilst we hovver 6 points above the relegation zone having only won 2 of our last 11......
Charlton are too good to go down is what I can hear in the background. Really?! This side without May, Leaburn, Chuks, Dobson and CBT wouldn't win another game all season !!!
Coventry isn’t one I have heard, but if true I would imagine would be a permanent signing, he certainly fits the type of players we are looking.
I would add, that Dobson has been offer a take or leave or deal, if he doesn’t sign, he will be gone, same as CBT. But I think that is old news.
As I mentioned there is going to be a lot of transactions this month, in and out of the club. I honestly think these owners want to a big go at, I get to fans are once bitten twice as shy, and want instant success, but personally I feel we need to give them a bit of time, they haven’t done anything alarmingly wrong at the moment. They have a strategy and a plan, and it is certainly bette than the last few owners that’s for sure!
As I go back, there is a base on here would only be happy if it was Varney that took over!
It is a big month for Scott, if no improvement then we deserve to go after him, but at the moment the jury is out for me!
You obviously get some useful info but so often it's given alongside you criticising Charlton fans for not liking this ownership and digging them out for wanting something different. I get that you're close to them in some way but it hasn't exactly been good so far has it? I'd love if we could have the rumours without the biased commentary alongside it.
Don't think he's close to them, just useful for spreading their narrative.
Coventry isn’t one I have heard, but if true I would imagine would be a permanent signing, he certainly fits the type of players we are looking.
I would add, that Dobson has been offer a take or leave or deal, if he doesn’t sign, he will be gone, same as CBT. But I think that is old news.
As I mentioned there is going to be a lot of transactions this month, in and out of the club. I honestly think these owners want to a big go at, I get to fans are once bitten twice as shy, and want instant success, but personally I feel we need to give them a bit of time, they haven’t done anything alarmingly wrong at the moment. They have a strategy and a plan, and it is certainly bette than the last few owners that’s for sure!
As I go back, there is a base on here would only be happy if it was Varney that took over!
It is a big month for Scott, if no improvement then we deserve to go after him, but at the moment the jury is out for me!
Why did we not do this in the summer?! They’ve basically wasted a season (and a very weak league 1) and missed a great opportunity.
If the money is there now, why wasn’t it in the summer? Just seems like a bit of an odd approach
Because basically the whole window was planned around Holden… he basically got the younger small squad he wanted!
But you were very happy with that squad weren't you? I seem to remember you were one of the few saying it was more than good enough.
Scott and Appleton were very happy with it too until we started losing again so the party line changed as it couldn’t be their fault
I do love how people who have no idea of what conversations have gone on, and what has been offered, seem to have an understanding exactly what CBT and Dobson have been offered, what they are asking for and what they think they are worth.
Maybe it’s just me, but I guess I’d like to know what sort of contact they have been offered and if they are even entertaining it before I jump to conclusions.
Coventry isn’t one I have heard, but if true I would imagine would be a permanent signing, he certainly fits the type of players we are looking.
I would add, that Dobson has been offer a take or leave or deal, if he doesn’t sign, he will be gone, same as CBT. But I think that is old news.
As I mentioned there is going to be a lot of transactions this month, in and out of the club. I honestly think these owners want to a big go at, I get to fans are once bitten twice as shy, and want instant success, but personally I feel we need to give them a bit of time, they haven’t done anything alarmingly wrong at the moment. They have a strategy and a plan, and it is certainly bette than the last few owners that’s for sure!
As I go back, there is a base on here would only be happy if it was Varney that took over!
It is a big month for Scott, if no improvement then we deserve to go after him, but at the moment the jury is out for me!
Just win games. It's pretty simple. Currently failing.
Coventry isn’t one I have heard, but if true I would imagine would be a permanent signing, he certainly fits the type of players we are looking.
I would add, that Dobson has been offer a take or leave or deal, if he doesn’t sign, he will be gone, same as CBT. But I think that is old news.
As I mentioned there is going to be a lot of transactions this month, in and out of the club. I honestly think these owners want to a big go at, I get to fans are once bitten twice as shy, and want instant success, but personally I feel we need to give them a bit of time, they haven’t done anything alarmingly wrong at the moment. They have a strategy and a plan, and it is certainly bette than the last few owners that’s for sure!
As I go back, there is a base on here would only be happy if it was Varney that took over!
It is a big month for Scott, if no improvement then we deserve to go after him, but at the moment the jury is out for me!
You obviously get some useful info but so often it's given alongside you criticising Charlton fans for not liking this ownership and digging them out for wanting something different. I get that you're close to them in some way but it hasn't exactly been good so far has it? I'd love if we could have the rumours without the biased commentary alongside it.
Fair enough, but we are writing things off before given a really opportunity. Yes, we have had it tough over the last 10 years or so.. but damage has been, and not allowing the owners the time isn’t going to help.. what’s the point of driving owners out with given them a really opportunity.
Honestly, I understand the frustration, I am frustrated by our club, but what help is all the negativity, they haven’t actually done anything that bad right?? Some of the toxic I don’t think is that justified.
I guess it is years upon years that is causing it, but fans need more patience
If there's legs in the Coventry rumour then we'd have the following central midfield options, when all fit:
- George Dobson - Panutche Camara - Scott Fraser - Terry Taylor - Conor McGrandles - Louie Watson - Karoy Anderson - Conor Coventry
Eight is quite a lot! But, you'd potentially then say that 1) Watson is recalled; 2) Anderson isn't good enough; and maybe 3) Fraser goes. With Dobson and Camara not slated to be at the club beyond this season, we are left with Taylor, McGrandles, Coventry, and Anderson for 2024/25.
My gut tells me this is not a position "of need" but then we need players all over the pitch to be remotely competitive. A slightly more convincing part of my gut, however, tells me that this - IF IT HAS LEGS - is a "replace Dobson before he goes" move. If that is the case... well, I wouldn't be surprised, but I would be a bit disappointed.
Most of you (rightly) lambasted certain posters a few days ago for implying that being critical meant not being a proper fan. Now I don't share Dubai's views either but you can't have it both ways. They're one of the few that actually posts rumours and makes this thread interesting, and they're very entitled to their views on the ownership.
I hope we aren't putting all our eggs in one basket on this one. Feels like a transfer that could rumble on towards the end of the window before it gets resolved and it's not guaranteed he'll come to us. Meanwhile, we need a line leading striker pronto. And ideally we will have players in place that mean, by the time he is fit, there will be no pressure to have Aneke starting games otherwise we can anticipate he'll be out again after a handful of appearances.
Dobson and Blackett- Taylor will get moved on this month and noises from the club will be, well we did offer them a good deal and they said no.
Lose 2 of your best 3 players at the club, and then bring in replacements with that money who will take a while to get up to speed whilst we head into a tough February on paper and then possibly looking over our shoulders at the bottom 4
Coventry isn’t one I have heard, but if true I would imagine would be a permanent signing, he certainly fits the type of players we are looking.
I would add, that Dobson has been offer a take or leave or deal, if he doesn’t sign, he will be gone, same as CBT. But I think that is old news.
As I mentioned there is going to be a lot of transactions this month, in and out of the club. I honestly think these owners want to a big go at, I get to fans are once bitten twice as shy, and want instant success, but personally I feel we need to give them a bit of time, they haven’t done anything alarmingly wrong at the moment. They have a strategy and a plan, and it is certainly bette than the last few owners that’s for sure!
As I go back, there is a base on here would only be happy if it was Varney that took over!
It is a big month for Scott, if no improvement then we deserve to go after him, but at the moment the jury is out for me!
Why did we not do this in the summer?! They’ve basically wasted a season (and a very weak league 1) and missed a great opportunity.
If the money is there now, why wasn’t it in the summer? Just seems like a bit of an odd approach
Because basically the whole window was planned around Holden… he basically got the younger small squad he wanted!
But you were very happy with that squad weren't you? I seem to remember you were one of the few saying it was more than good enough.
Yes, I was, along with 90% of the charlton fans, a lot were good signings on paper. But then, we have had a lot of injuries.
And we signed the best goal scorer in the division, why wouldn’t you be happy with that?
It would be great if we retained Dobson and CBT but it’s pretty obvious that they both want out. No idea what’s been offered to them but I doubt it’s not competitive. They are after all important players for us but if they can get better offers beyond ours and want out then now’s the time to usher them out the door when we can hopefully get a small fee for both. That’s the reality of football. We’ll no doubt be taking advantage of the same opportunities. If there’s truth in Coventry and JCH there’s two straight away.
Without injuries it's a very decent squad, the problem is how many injury risks it contained in key positions
I think that's the key points of failure to recruit properly in the summer. I think everyone one on this forum was reasonably happy with the recruitment of Taylor, Camara, Watson and Edun but its taken Watson and Edun nearly half a season to get fit and as for Taylor and Camara, there must have been question marks due to the length of time they had been out. But the real failing is not bringing in another forward with Alfie May. Was all this due to the takeover being delayed ? I'm not sure if that really stands up to scrutiny.
The permanent downgrading of our club by a minority of fans is so frustrating, I am not saying it is easy, what deal is but the idea that it is ludicrous to even consider we can compete financially with another team in our division & a team in the league below.
We should be seriously in the mix for JCH especially now we don't have that despicable Holden demanding we don't spend money anymore.
Coventry isn’t one I have heard, but if true I would imagine would be a permanent signing, he certainly fits the type of players we are looking.
I would add, that Dobson has been offer a take or leave or deal, if he doesn’t sign, he will be gone, same as CBT. But I think that is old news.
As I mentioned there is going to be a lot of transactions this month, in and out of the club. I honestly think these owners want to a big go at, I get to fans are once bitten twice as shy, and want instant success, but personally I feel we need to give them a bit of time, they haven’t done anything alarmingly wrong at the moment. They have a strategy and a plan, and it is certainly bette than the last few owners that’s for sure!
As I go back, there is a base on here would only be happy if it was Varney that took over!
It is a big month for Scott, if no improvement then we deserve to go after him, but at the moment the jury is out for me!
Why did we not do this in the summer?! They’ve basically wasted a season (and a very weak league 1) and missed a great opportunity.
If the money is there now, why wasn’t it in the summer? Just seems like a bit of an odd approach
Because basically the whole window was planned around Holden… he basically got the younger small squad he wanted!
But you were very happy with that squad weren't you? I seem to remember you were one of the few saying it was more than good enough.
Yes, I was, along with 90% of the charlton fans, a lot were good signings on paper. But then, we have had a lot of injuries.
And we signed the best goal scorer in the division, why wouldn’t you be happy with that?
To my memory, 90% of fans didn't think the squad was good enough, because I can remember the few that did.
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We have signed the worst collection of loanees and free transfers in living memory
We have signed a non descript manager who appears to be regressing our highly lauded youngsters
We have not kept a clean sheet in 12 games
We have drawn with Cray Valley Paper Mills and lost to Gillingham in the FA Cup (with a near first choice team)
We have lost three games in a row and only won twice in twelve games
We sit in the bottom half of Division 3
The crowds are rapidly disappearing
We have left Dobson and CBT with contracts that they do not wish to extend - it's all well and good doing a "take it or leave it offer" but we're not really attractive a proposition right now
I use "We" - but I mean THEY.
Their strategy and plan CLEARLY isn't working - why we NEARLY got a point yesterday, at home, to Oxford - a side with 8-10 first choice players missing/injured!
If you don't think the above is alarmingly wrong, then it's because you want to believe everything you are told.
Come to London and endure, sorry I mean, enjoy the lovely atmosphere at the Valley and watch our greatest side of all time with your own eyes.........
I HOPE TO GOD they improve what they are doing, but to say they have done nothing alarmingly wrong at the moment is absolute nonsense.
I agree - we should genuinely be moving heaven and earth to keep these two right now! Unless we get 5 or 6 in beforehand and then we let them go. It seems crazy that our best two players currently fit are being considered to be sold whilst we hovver 6 points above the relegation zone having only won 2 of our last 11......
Charlton are too good to go down is what I can hear in the background. Really?! This side without May, Leaburn, Chuks, Dobson and CBT wouldn't win another game all season !!!
Honestly, I understand the frustration, I am frustrated by our club, but what help is all the negativity, they haven’t actually done anything that bad right?? Some of the toxic I don’t think is that justified.
I guess it is years upon years that is causing it, but fans need more patience
- George Dobson
- Panutche Camara
- Scott Fraser
- Terry Taylor
- Conor McGrandles
- Louie Watson
- Karoy Anderson
- Conor Coventry
Eight is quite a lot! But, you'd potentially then say that 1) Watson is recalled; 2) Anderson isn't good enough; and maybe 3) Fraser goes. With Dobson and Camara not slated to be at the club beyond this season, we are left with Taylor, McGrandles, Coventry, and Anderson for 2024/25.
My gut tells me this is not a position "of need" but then we need players all over the pitch to be remotely competitive. A slightly more convincing part of my gut, however, tells me that this - IF IT HAS LEGS - is a "replace Dobson before he goes" move. If that is the case... well, I wouldn't be surprised, but I would be a bit disappointed.
Lose 2 of your best 3 players at the club, and then bring in replacements with that money who will take a while to get up to speed whilst we head into a tough February on paper and then possibly looking over our shoulders at the bottom 4
And we signed the best goal scorer in the division, why wouldn’t you be happy with that?
We should be seriously in the mix for JCH especially now we don't have that despicable Holden demanding we don't spend money anymore.