The smart thing to do if CBT leaves is to switch to 3-5-2.
Unfortunately we have Appleton and Scott so will instead just play 4-3-3 with May and the Campbells as wide options, we might sign another winger but let’s be honest we are unlikely to find one as good as CBT so it’s not going to improve us
The smart thing to do if CBT leaves is to switch to 3-5-2.
Unfortunately we have Appleton and Scott so will instead just play 4-3-3 with May and the Campbells as wide options, we might sign another winger but let’s be honest we are unlikely to find one as good as CBT so it’s not going to improve us
4 3 3 good if the wide two work hard and get back to support midfield eg Foden and Grealish don’t stand watching!
I think it's time to stop thinking about this window in the context of this season and think longer term (plus some good loans).
We want the kind of window that we look back at this time next year and say "some really important building blocks for a genuine promotion push were put in place then".
Looks like they've listened to what I said a month ago
It's a good salary Dubai but when you've put blood sweat and tears into the shirt over the last few years and shirkers like Kirk are on alot more plus injured players and newly arriving players of course you will want close to parity it's the same for any worker.
Coupled with you can bet your life that Coventry will be trousering 10k a week upwards. Dobson has been our stand out player and without him we'd be in more s*** than we already are. You keep your best players.
Dobson has no interest in him ATM. If I was him, I would take the deal that has been offered.. It is big increase. But he may also be worried about playing time, especially with the club showing ambition.
It's a good salary Dubai but when you've put blood sweat and tears into the shirt over the last few years and shirkers like Kirk are on alot more plus injured players and newly arriving players of course you will want close to parity it's the same for any worker.
I get it from Dobbo point of view, but the club will not pay over the odds now.. We now have a number of good midfielders at the club, and a few that can grow in to the same role that Dobson plays.. He has been offered a good deal, and the club will not offer silly deals like they did in the past to get deals over the line..
I get that. But I strongly suspect the club just announced a player on higher wages than what Dobson is being offered (if what’s being suggested is true) in the same position. So that tells Dobson exactly where they see him in the pecking order for the period ahead. If he can get better elsewhere, he’ll be gone and I don’t really blame him.
Totally. No idea about the financial heft of these new boys, but on the face of it, I am sure if they saw Dobson as a big part of their plans moving forwards they would/could pay the wages.
Though as ever there’s no point in really having any firm opinions either way on this until the end of the window and we can look at the transfer activity as a whole.
It's a good salary Dubai but when you've put blood sweat and tears into the shirt over the last few years and shirkers like Kirk are on alot more plus injured players and newly arriving players of course you will want close to parity it's the same for any worker.
Coupled with you can bet your life that Coventry will be trousering 10k a week upwards. Dobson has been our stand out player and without him we'd be in more s*** than we already are. You keep your best players.
Dobson has no interest in him ATM. If I was him, I would take the deal that has been offered.. It is big increase. But he may also be worried about playing time, especially with the club showing ambition.
Dobson worrying about playing time 🤦🏻♂️
Coventry is a better player than Dobson, but we would do very well to find another midfielder that is though so I don’t think Dobson has anything to worry about. If what Dubai says is true and we’ve offered him 6.5k a week, I doubt we are offering that to a player that isn’t going to start games
I think Dobson and Coventry together would be a very good partnership, and give the defence a lot more protection
It's a good salary Dubai but when you've put blood sweat and tears into the shirt over the last few years and shirkers like Kirk are on alot more plus injured players and newly arriving players of course you will want close to parity it's the same for any worker.
I get it from Dobbo point of view, but the club will not pay over the odds now.. We now have a number of good midfielders at the club, and a few that can grow in to the same role that Dobson plays.. He has been offered a good deal, and the club will not offer silly deals like they did in the past to get deals over the line..
I get that. But I strongly suspect the club just announced a player on higher wages than what Dobson is being offered (if what’s being suggested is true) in the same position. So that tells Dobson exactly where they see him in the pecking order for the period ahead. If he can get better elsewhere, he’ll be gone and I don’t really blame him.
But he has to be a bit careful here. He's been good in our eyes because of the dross elsewhere in the squad. Are other clubs as interested? I'm not so sure. For once we actually hold the aces here I think. We've made him an offer. Hes got a year left but not a lot of interest and I doubt he would get anywhere near what we've offered him now even if there is interest because of the transfer fee that would also have to be stumped up.
So he can wait. But will his stock still be as high at the end of the season if his performance levels drop and he is even maybe struggling to get a starting berth?
Depending on the CBT situation we need 1, maybe 2 wingers still, a striker and another left back. Keeper wise I think to truly compete at the top we need better but it's low on the list for January IMO unless someone absolutely mustard is available
Unless we are planning on moving to a 352 in which case wingers aren't really necessary and a young player like Tyreece and a versatile player like Chem are enough options out wide if we want/need to change it up within games.
I think you might be on the money, especially if we want to keep all our strikers happy if all fully fit
Does mean full back/wing back should become a priority
I think they will look to bring another wing back and another CB as well.
Noise is now, they are planning for life without CBT and Dobbo, but they won't let them go on the cheap this month, they have figure they want, and they don't have to sell, and both players are happy to stay till the end of the season. Charlton are in a strong position with them both!
The issue is, they both know the figure Chuks is on, and want the same.. Which isn't going to happen. Both deals they have been offered would take them to among the highest paid players in league One.. That tells you how much Chuks is on, and why they can't move him on easily.
I got told Chuks was on 7k, in comparison its higher than the majority of our team, but lower than a lot of others in the division. Brannagan at Oxford for example is on 8k, some of readings are still on 10k+. I don't think George is being unreasonable, he is without doubt our most consistent player
I would say he is on more than that, Brum increased his salary a lot when he left us the first time around, then we offered more again when he come back.. The figure you have mentioned that Chuks is on, is close to what Dobbo been offered.
That figure came from a former employee that dealt with it at the time, about 4 weeks ago.
It's a good salary Dubai but when you've put blood sweat and tears into the shirt over the last few years and shirkers like Kirk are on alot more plus injured players and newly arriving players of course you will want close to parity it's the same for any worker.
I get it from Dobbo point of view, but the club will not pay over the odds now.. We now have a number of good midfielders at the club, and a few that can grow in to the same role that Dobson plays.. He has been offered a good deal, and the club will not offer silly deals like they did in the past to get deals over the line..
Would be interesting to know if the club see Dobbo as one of their 8 "elite". If so, maybe they would push the boat out more to secure him. If in the middle category, then no. I would argue that, at present, he has to be regarded as one of the very few who would make the elite category.
No good signing a player like Coventry and then letting another one of our best walk out the door.
@CAFCDAZ - would you say the top 1% earners in L1 is probably the same as the very best academy boys at premier league clubs. For example, Rak-Sakyi & the top L1 players are on a similar wage?
No some are on considerably more. Tedic for example was on 15k, we were paying in the region of 5/7 of that. Gallagher was also on 15k, we were paying 3k, Chelsea wanted us to pay 5k, southall said fuck off you greedy so and so hence him being recalled and sent to Swansea, who paid them 8k
It's a good salary Dubai but when you've put blood sweat and tears into the shirt over the last few years and shirkers like Kirk are on alot more plus injured players and newly arriving players of course you will want close to parity it's the same for any worker.
I get it from Dobbo point of view, but the club will not pay over the odds now.. We now have a number of good midfielders at the club, and a few that can grow in to the same role that Dobson plays.. He has been offered a good deal, and the club will not offer silly deals like they did in the past to get deals over the line..
I get that. But I strongly suspect the club just announced a player on higher wages than what Dobson is being offered (if what’s being suggested is true) in the same position. So that tells Dobson exactly where they see him in the pecking order for the period ahead. If he can get better elsewhere, he’ll be gone and I don’t really blame him.
100% agree with this, and I certainly don’t blame him. My point is, I don’t think he will get a better deal financially else where.
I think it's time to stop thinking about this window in the context of this season and think longer term (plus some good loans).
We want the kind of window that we look back at this time next year and say "some really important building blocks for a genuine promotion push were put in place then".
Looks like they've listened to what I said a month ago
It's a good salary Dubai but when you've put blood sweat and tears into the shirt over the last few years and shirkers like Kirk are on alot more plus injured players and newly arriving players of course you will want close to parity it's the same for any worker.
I get it from Dobbo point of view, but the club will not pay over the odds now.. We now have a number of good midfielders at the club, and a few that can grow in to the same role that Dobson plays.. He has been offered a good deal, and the club will not offer silly deals like they did in the past to get deals over the line..
Hope we keep Dobbo and he signs a contract, like the sound of Coventry and by the sounds of it he definitely has the potential to play at a much higher level than George.
George is great for us, has massively improved over the past 2 years - he lacks a bit of pace to be top class IMO - but I just think he 'fits' Charlton. Not so sure he'll be the same somewhere else and as others has said, the grass isn't always greener.
It's a good salary Dubai but when you've put blood sweat and tears into the shirt over the last few years and shirkers like Kirk are on alot more plus injured players and newly arriving players of course you will want close to parity it's the same for any worker.
Coupled with you can bet your life that Coventry will be trousering 10k a week upwards. Dobson has been our stand out player and without him we'd be in more s*** than we already are. You keep your best players.
Dobson has no interest in him ATM. If I was him, I would take the deal that has been offered.. It is big increase. But he may also be worried about playing time, especially with the club showing ambition.
All very well saying a big increase, but that depends on what he is on atm. The increase may still mean his salary is not good enough compared to others.
I would say, if he really wants to stay, sign the deal.. It is a good deal for him! And pretty sure he will not get the same at any other club!
He has no interest, from any championship clubs, or top league one clubs.. Only enquiry he has had was from Wrexham.. So that tells you all you need to know!!
So no interest from top league one, suggests interest from elsewhere league one.
Maybe.. but know one is going to pay him what he has been offered.. And clubs that a lot smaller and lower level than Charlton! Grass isn't always greener
If bigger, greener grass turns up for him in this window then I imagine he'll be off. If it doesn't then he has the choice to take our offer now or wait until the summer and see how green the grass is then and hope our offer is still on the table......... tough choice for him just on the numbers and risk, never mind game time in the future which I assume means add-on £ for being on the grass. Then there'd be all the personal upheaval of moving to wherever if he does choose to go. He's been great for us, if he stays he's someone we can always rely on, if he goes I hope it all works out the way he wants and expects.
JCH wanting 15k a week is obscene. Time to move onto the next name on the list whoever that is. Can't see Posh being overly impressed with that either.
We haven’t got too many midfielders, I just wanted that to be out there before it’s said. Our midfield is shite, it’s weaker than the defence (IMO). But the defence takes all the criticism.
Any midfielder we sign who’s better than what we’ve got is very much welcomed.
We definitely do have too many midfielders. Not saying I disagree on quality, but half our squad will be CMs if we sign Coventry.
I’m not counting the shite I’m only counting the ones good enough for a genuine challenge at promotion.
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Dobson worrying about playing time 🤦🏻♂️
For once we actually hold the aces here I think. We've made him an offer. Hes got a year left but not a lot of interest and I doubt he would get anywhere near what we've offered him now even if there is interest because of the transfer fee that would also have to be stumped up.
So he can wait. But will his stock still be as high at the end of the season if his performance levels drop and he is even maybe struggling to get a starting berth?
Have you seen it?
No good signing a player like Coventry and then letting another one of our best walk out the door.
George is great for us, has massively improved over the past 2 years - he lacks a bit of pace to be top class IMO - but I just think he 'fits' Charlton. Not so sure he'll be the same somewhere else and as others has said, the grass isn't always greener.
If it doesn't then he has the choice to take our offer now or wait until the summer and see how green the grass is then and hope our offer is still on the table......... tough choice for him just on the numbers and risk, never mind game time in the future which I assume means add-on £ for being on the grass.
Then there'd be all the personal upheaval of moving to wherever if he does choose to go.
He's been great for us, if he stays he's someone we can always rely on, if he goes I hope it all works out the way he wants and expects.
mental salary in league 1
Time to move onto the next target.