If Dobson leaves then it’s all Bromley Addicks fault.
Simple as that.
Same goes for CBT too.
Na... they will just blame the owners!!
As they should If we were top 6, winning games, with a real chance of promotion and the club made them a good offer, they'd sign.
I wouldn't re-sign for us based on the current footballing prospects at CAFC
They must be crazy though- what with Appleton being the best coach in the world and all that...
Club is a mess.. It is no quick fix! this years of damage.. And if you are not going to allow time, it will never be fixed!
Super hero Varney isn't coming to the rescue.. suck it up, and support! We have little option..
But Charlie said it wasn't hard with better management to reduce the losses to £1.5m - £2m per year and establish ourselves as a top half Championship side.
If it's not hard how comes we're making it look quite difficult being a top half Division 3 side??...
Won't happen over night.. It takes time!
Andy Scott is on the record as saying we have a squad to compete for top 6. He said failure stops now Methven said you only have to be better than previous owners to dramatically cut losses and establish ourselves in the top half of the Championship.
They were completely wrong or they aren't very good at their jobs.
Of course it would take time regardless of the manager etc
Right now though, we are lightyears away.
Scott hasn't got it right, everyone knows and the owners know that as well.. Let's see what happens over the next 2 windows, then make a real judgement!
As I said, it won't happen over night!
We are not looking to scrap the bottom of the barrel now.
Two more windows On top of the last two he's had some say in, plus this one? FIVE WINDOWS? We are really setting the bar low aren't we
They not .. they had two weeks in the summer and this one .. everything else had to be agreed through TS ..
More than 2 weeks
They took over the club on the 21st July
You would be no good if they were your specialist subject on Mastermind. You would be playing serious catch up on the general knowledge round
If Dobson leaves then it’s all Bromley Addicks fault.
Simple as that.
Same goes for CBT too.
Na... they will just blame the owners!!
As they should If we were top 6, winning games, with a real chance of promotion and the club made them a good offer, they'd sign.
I wouldn't re-sign for us based on the current footballing prospects at CAFC
They must be crazy though- what with Appleton being the best coach in the world and all that...
Club is a mess.. It is no quick fix! this years of damage.. And if you are not going to allow time, it will never be fixed!
Super hero Varney isn't coming to the rescue.. suck it up, and support! We have little option..
"Suck it up"
Wow, you really just told other fans who aren't happy to "suck it up"
Unbelievable.
What other options do we have?
Suck it up and try to support the club, and see what happens or don't go and spend your hard earned cash.
Think last night they delivered a message, they know they haven't got it right, they have made mistake, they know it isn't an easy fix, they are trying to correct the wrongs, they have owners who are willing to invest money in the playing side, and non-playing side.
I am frustrated as much as anyone how poor this season has been, how we have left ourselves short, how things don't seem to be going to plan this window.. But need to give them a chance, personally,
I don't we will see the really benefits for another 18months - 2 years in my opinion, it is a project!
They done well by not letting Scott face questions.
If Dobson leaves then it’s all Bromley Addicks fault.
Simple as that.
Same goes for CBT too.
Na... they will just blame the owners!!
As they should If we were top 6, winning games, with a real chance of promotion and the club made them a good offer, they'd sign.
I wouldn't re-sign for us based on the current footballing prospects at CAFC
They must be crazy though- what with Appleton being the best coach in the world and all that...
Club is a mess.. It is no quick fix! this years of damage.. And if you are not going to allow time, it will never be fixed!
Super hero Varney isn't coming to the rescue.. suck it up, and support! We have little option..
But Charlie said it wasn't hard with better management to reduce the losses to £1.5m - £2m per year and establish ourselves as a top half Championship side.
If it's not hard how comes we're making it look quite difficult being a top half Division 3 side??...
Won't happen over night.. It takes time!
Andy Scott is on the record as saying we have a squad to compete for top 6. He said failure stops now Methven said you only have to be better than previous owners to dramatically cut losses and establish ourselves in the top half of the Championship.
They were completely wrong or they aren't very good at their jobs.
Of course it would take time regardless of the manager etc
Right now though, we are lightyears away.
Scott hasn't got it right, everyone knows and the owners know that as well.. Let's see what happens over the next 2 windows, then make a real judgement!
As I said, it won't happen over night!
We are not looking to scrap the bottom of the barrel now.
Two more windows On top of the last two he's had some say in, plus this one? FIVE WINDOWS? We are really setting the bar low aren't we
Please stop saying Scott has had two windows already. Please!!!
window 1. He was working for sandgaard under a completely different brief. The owner wanted out and wanted to reduce costs. From sandgaards point of view, last January was a good window.
window 2. What percentage of the window had gone when the new owners took control? How many realistic targets had moved on by that stage?
window 3. This is the first full window Scott has had.
Summary. As this is his first full window and I'll judge him come February.
This is his 3rd window (The 2nd one not a full one as highlighted below)
The whole of January last year
From the 21st July when his group that he’s employed by took over the club. His last 4 signings shown to be panic stations and 2 of those already thrown back
And 11 days into this one now and very likely to still be charge by the end of it
May as well close the thread. The bloke has essentially tried to shift blame on fans for panic signings and managerial appointments.
He's then suggested that it's the players fault for not signing, he's more or less said January is a no go for transfer movements, even tried to make a joke out of it by smugly saying he may as well wake up in the afternoon.
They're doing it on the cheap, if we don't sign JCH and that money isn't spent elsewhere to improve this team, which definitely needs improvement, I think the writing is on the wall.
I am now a bit more suspicious knowing of Rodwells links with Peterborough and 'DMAC'. Wouldn't it be funny that we were in for a Peterborough manager and one of Peterboroughs top players and rejected by both? It's not like this hasn't happened before when Dmac was allowing Southall to talk shit to keep Charlton fans on side.
The biggest indicator by a country mile on these lot will be by windows close. If we don't sign JCH or at least put those wages to good use and funds, which they have now confirmed they are able to, something is wrong.
Because either they don't have the money they are claiming to and the JCH bid was a media stunt to calm a disgruntled fan base down or, their scouting knowledge goes no further than approaching a top striker in our league to a club who want to sell. Either way not ideal imo.
That fans whatever you want to call it did nothing for me but made me think they're more tin pot than I already thought they were.
Disclaimer, these are all my views, none of these claims are fact and all my opinions based on what I have seen and heard. As always I hope I am wrong, but I have a feeling we will be warning another clubs fans about this mob like others fans warned us.
Fine if that's what you want to discuss and how you feel but it's still got barely anything to do with rumours. I get sucked in by other conversation on this thread myself and understand we're all a bit bored with no rumours but there's already a thread about the meeting last night and if you want to start one about what was said about transfers specifically then I'm sure you know how to start your own thread
Regardless of its been asked before or not I think it is a valid question. If we are doomed for another nothing season and both players refuse to sign, should we cash in now?
It is a valid question but at the time it was asked at Bromley Addicks the situation was different and my view was we should keep them for a promotion push.
Now, I tend to think that we could cash in we're not going up but we're also not safe from relegation so selling two of our best players might not be a great idea.
Remember New England Teamen and 1978 when we let Powell, Flan and Abrahams go around March and just avoided the drop.
There isn't a straight forward answer really, as it depends on where we are in the table, and who else we bring in. Back in December, promotion was still a realistic aspiration, and it's possible that one or both of Dobson and CBT might have resigned if we were a Championship club next season. Now there's no chance of that, but a small but genuine chance of relegation.
We're trying to bring in JCH who Posh are wanting to sell because his contract is running out, so it's a common decision in football post Bosman.
If Dobson leaves then it’s all Bromley Addicks fault.
Simple as that.
Same goes for CBT too.
Na... they will just blame the owners!!
As they should If we were top 6, winning games, with a real chance of promotion and the club made them a good offer, they'd sign.
I wouldn't re-sign for us based on the current footballing prospects at CAFC
They must be crazy though- what with Appleton being the best coach in the world and all that...
Club is a mess.. It is no quick fix! this years of damage.. And if you are not going to allow time, it will never be fixed!
Super hero Varney isn't coming to the rescue.. suck it up, and support! We have little option..
But Charlie said it wasn't hard with better management to reduce the losses to £1.5m - £2m per year and establish ourselves as a top half Championship side.
If it's not hard how comes we're making it look quite difficult being a top half Division 3 side??...
Won't happen over night.. It takes time!
Andy Scott is on the record as saying we have a squad to compete for top 6. He said failure stops now Methven said you only have to be better than previous owners to dramatically cut losses and establish ourselves in the top half of the Championship.
They were completely wrong or they aren't very good at their jobs.
Of course it would take time regardless of the manager etc
Right now though, we are lightyears away.
Scott hasn't got it right, everyone knows and the owners know that as well.. Let's see what happens over the next 2 windows, then make a real judgement!
As I said, it won't happen over night!
We are not looking to scrap the bottom of the barrel now.
Two more windows On top of the last two he's had some say in, plus this one? FIVE WINDOWS? We are really setting the bar low aren't we
Please stop saying Scott has had two windows already. Please!!!
window 1. He was working for sandgaard under a completely different brief. The owner wanted out and wanted to reduce costs. From sandgaards point of view, last January was a good window.
window 2. What percentage of the window had gone when the new owners took control? How many realistic targets had moved on by that stage?
window 3. This is the first full window Scott has had.
Summary. As this is his first full window and I'll judge him come February.
May as well close the thread. The bloke has essentially tried to shift blame on fans for panic signings and managerial appointments.
He's then suggested that it's the players fault for not signing, he's more or less said January is a no go for transfer movements, even tried to make a joke out of it by smugly saying he may as well wake up in the afternoon.
They're doing it on the cheap, if we don't sign JCH and that money isn't spent elsewhere to improve this team, which definitely needs improvement, I think the writing is on the wall.
I am now a bit more suspicious knowing of Rodwells links with Peterborough and 'DMAC'. Wouldn't it be funny that we were in for a Peterborough manager and one of Peterboroughs top players and rejected by both? It's not like this hasn't happened before when Dmac was allowing Southall to talk shit to keep Charlton fans on side.
The biggest indicator by a country mile on these lot will be by windows close. If we don't sign JCH or at least put those wages to good use and funds, which they have now confirmed they are able to, something is wrong.
Because either they don't have the money they are claiming to and the JCH bid was a media stunt to calm a disgruntled fan base down or, their scouting knowledge goes no further than approaching a top striker in our league to a club who want to sell. Either way not ideal imo.
That fans whatever you want to call it did nothing for me but made me think they're more tin pot than I already thought they were.
Disclaimer, these are all my views, none of these claims are fact and all my opinions based on what I have seen and heard. As always I hope I am wrong, but I have a feeling we will be warning another clubs fans about this mob like others fans warned us.
So the club are looking at better quality players.
If they approached me, I’d have reservations.
Sign now, Appleton/Scott sell it to you with the ‘5 year plan’, but you can see we are on a bad run of results. I don’t care what they state, no wins in January and Appleton might be gone (surely he would go then) and you are then risking yet another new Manager who you might not get on with.
The club is in a very difficult position to attract any permanent signings right now. Will be easier in the summer once we know what league we are in and you have time to plan properly for early summer signings.
If Dobson leaves then it’s all Bromley Addicks fault.
Simple as that.
Same goes for CBT too.
Na... they will just blame the owners!!
As they should If we were top 6, winning games, with a real chance of promotion and the club made them a good offer, they'd sign.
I wouldn't re-sign for us based on the current footballing prospects at CAFC
They must be crazy though- what with Appleton being the best coach in the world and all that...
Club is a mess.. It is no quick fix! this years of damage.. And if you are not going to allow time, it will never be fixed!
Super hero Varney isn't coming to the rescue.. suck it up, and support! We have little option..
But Charlie said it wasn't hard with better management to reduce the losses to £1.5m - £2m per year and establish ourselves as a top half Championship side.
If it's not hard how comes we're making it look quite difficult being a top half Division 3 side??...
Won't happen over night.. It takes time!
Andy Scott is on the record as saying we have a squad to compete for top 6. He said failure stops now Methven said you only have to be better than previous owners to dramatically cut losses and establish ourselves in the top half of the Championship.
They were completely wrong or they aren't very good at their jobs.
Of course it would take time regardless of the manager etc
Right now though, we are lightyears away.
Scott hasn't got it right, everyone knows and the owners know that as well.. Let's see what happens over the next 2 windows, then make a real judgement!
As I said, it won't happen over night!
We are not looking to scrap the bottom of the barrel now.
Two more windows On top of the last two he's had some say in, plus this one? FIVE WINDOWS? We are really setting the bar low aren't we
Please stop saying Scott has had two windows already. Please!!!
window 1. He was working for sandgaard under a completely different brief. The owner wanted out and wanted to reduce costs. From sandgaards point of view, last January was a good window.
window 2. What percentage of the window had gone when the new owners took control? How many realistic targets had moved on by that stage?
window 3. This is the first full window Scott has had.
Summary. As this is his first full window and I'll judge him come February.
This is his 3rd window (The 2nd one not a full one as highlighted below)
The whole of January last year
From the 21st July when his group that he’s employed by took over the club. His last 4 signings shown to be panic stations and 2 of those already thrown back
And 11 days into this one now and very likely to still be charge by the end of it
If you want to count the first one, then do.. But when was Scott appointed, wasn't right at the end of December, so there would have been no plan, and was still working with Gallen, and Martin S.. So not as straight forward as you think.. Summer was the same as well.. This is first real run at it, on his own, making decision without people from the other side to go through..
If Dobson leaves then it’s all Bromley Addicks fault.
Simple as that.
Same goes for CBT too.
Na... they will just blame the owners!!
As they should If we were top 6, winning games, with a real chance of promotion and the club made them a good offer, they'd sign.
I wouldn't re-sign for us based on the current footballing prospects at CAFC
They must be crazy though- what with Appleton being the best coach in the world and all that...
Club is a mess.. It is no quick fix! this years of damage.. And if you are not going to allow time, it will never be fixed!
Super hero Varney isn't coming to the rescue.. suck it up, and support! We have little option..
But Charlie said it wasn't hard with better management to reduce the losses to £1.5m - £2m per year and establish ourselves as a top half Championship side.
If it's not hard how comes we're making it look quite difficult being a top half Division 3 side??...
Won't happen over night.. It takes time!
Andy Scott is on the record as saying we have a squad to compete for top 6. He said failure stops now Methven said you only have to be better than previous owners to dramatically cut losses and establish ourselves in the top half of the Championship.
They were completely wrong or they aren't very good at their jobs.
Of course it would take time regardless of the manager etc
Right now though, we are lightyears away.
Scott hasn't got it right, everyone knows and the owners know that as well.. Let's see what happens over the next 2 windows, then make a real judgement!
As I said, it won't happen over night!
We are not looking to scrap the bottom of the barrel now.
Two more windows On top of the last two he's had some say in, plus this one? FIVE WINDOWS? We are really setting the bar low aren't we
Please stop saying Scott has had two windows already. Please!!!
window 1. He was working for sandgaard under a completely different brief. The owner wanted out and wanted to reduce costs. From sandgaards point of view, last January was a good window.
window 2. What percentage of the window had gone when the new owners took control? How many realistic targets had moved on by that stage?
window 3. This is the first full window Scott has had.
Summary. As this is his first full window and I'll judge him come February.
This is his 3rd window (The 2nd one not a full one as highlighted below)
The whole of January last year
From the 21st July when his group that he’s employed by took over the club. His last 4 signings shown to be panic stations and 2 of those already thrown back
And 11 days into this one now and very likely to still be charge by the end of it
If you want to count the first one, then do.. But when was Scott appointed, wasn't right at the end of December, so there would have been no plan, and was still working with Gallen, and Martin S.. So not as straight forward as you think.. Summer was the same as well.. This is first real run at it, on his own, making decision without people from the other side to go through..
I just have Dubai and will continue to do so on here and on other platforms . I look at the dates and deal with the facts from there on.
Scott along with Holden, Warrick and Rodwell were appointed on the 20th December 2022
If Dobson leaves then it’s all Bromley Addicks fault.
Simple as that.
Same goes for CBT too.
Na... they will just blame the owners!!
As they should If we were top 6, winning games, with a real chance of promotion and the club made them a good offer, they'd sign.
I wouldn't re-sign for us based on the current footballing prospects at CAFC
They must be crazy though- what with Appleton being the best coach in the world and all that...
Club is a mess.. It is no quick fix! this years of damage.. And if you are not going to allow time, it will never be fixed!
Super hero Varney isn't coming to the rescue.. suck it up, and support! We have little option..
But Charlie said it wasn't hard with better management to reduce the losses to £1.5m - £2m per year and establish ourselves as a top half Championship side.
If it's not hard how comes we're making it look quite difficult being a top half Division 3 side??...
Won't happen over night.. It takes time!
Andy Scott is on the record as saying we have a squad to compete for top 6. He said failure stops now Methven said you only have to be better than previous owners to dramatically cut losses and establish ourselves in the top half of the Championship.
They were completely wrong or they aren't very good at their jobs.
Of course it would take time regardless of the manager etc
Right now though, we are lightyears away.
Scott hasn't got it right, everyone knows and the owners know that as well.. Let's see what happens over the next 2 windows, then make a real judgement!
As I said, it won't happen over night!
We are not looking to scrap the bottom of the barrel now.
Two more windows On top of the last two he's had some say in, plus this one? FIVE WINDOWS? We are really setting the bar low aren't we
Please stop saying Scott has had two windows already. Please!!!
window 1. He was working for sandgaard under a completely different brief. The owner wanted out and wanted to reduce costs. From sandgaards point of view, last January was a good window.
window 2. What percentage of the window had gone when the new owners took control? How many realistic targets had moved on by that stage?
window 3. This is the first full window Scott has had.
Summary. As this is his first full window and I'll judge him come February.
This is his 3rd window (The 2nd one not a full one as highlighted below)
The whole of January last year
From the 21st July when his group that he’s employed by took over the club. His last 4 signings shown to be panic stations and 2 of those already thrown back
And 11 days into this one now and very likely to still be charge by the end of it
If you want to count the first one, then do.. But when was Scott appointed, wasn't right at the end of December, so there would have been no plan, and was still working with Gallen, and Martin S.. So not as straight forward as you think.. Summer was the same as well.. This is first real run at it, on his own, making decision without people from the other side to go through..
I just have Dubai and will continue to do so on here and on other platforms . I look at the dates and deal with the facts from there on.
Scott along with Holden, Warrick and Rodwell were appointed on the 20th December 2022
But but but - people will say they had their hands tied by TS .... no.... they were given a budget and told to get rid of dead wood also. They did that quite well - I'll give them that, but anybody that lauds
Penney Kane The midfielder whose name I can barely remember Hector (not bad, they can have that one)
and what they picked up last minute.com in the sales in August needs their bumps felt
They talk a good game but maybe they can't actually see a good player when it's smacking them in the face
I noticed from the presentation that not only do we have our own data analysts, but we are also using a data analyst firm
Remember the days when you were a kid, popped to Harrods and Selfridges, eyed up and would love to have the £300 fragrances, £200 Tshirts and £2000 shoes. But, your wallet was more aligned to Primark and C&A.
If Dobson leaves then it’s all Bromley Addicks fault.
Simple as that.
Same goes for CBT too.
Na... they will just blame the owners!!
As they should If we were top 6, winning games, with a real chance of promotion and the club made them a good offer, they'd sign.
I wouldn't re-sign for us based on the current footballing prospects at CAFC
They must be crazy though- what with Appleton being the best coach in the world and all that...
Club is a mess.. It is no quick fix! this years of damage.. And if you are not going to allow time, it will never be fixed!
Super hero Varney isn't coming to the rescue.. suck it up, and support! We have little option..
But Charlie said it wasn't hard with better management to reduce the losses to £1.5m - £2m per year and establish ourselves as a top half Championship side.
If it's not hard how comes we're making it look quite difficult being a top half Division 3 side??...
Won't happen over night.. It takes time!
Andy Scott is on the record as saying we have a squad to compete for top 6. He said failure stops now Methven said you only have to be better than previous owners to dramatically cut losses and establish ourselves in the top half of the Championship.
They were completely wrong or they aren't very good at their jobs.
Of course it would take time regardless of the manager etc
Right now though, we are lightyears away.
Scott hasn't got it right, everyone knows and the owners know that as well.. Let's see what happens over the next 2 windows, then make a real judgement!
As I said, it won't happen over night!
We are not looking to scrap the bottom of the barrel now.
Two more windows On top of the last two he's had some say in, plus this one? FIVE WINDOWS? We are really setting the bar low aren't we
They not .. they had two weeks in the summer and this one .. everything else had to be agreed through TS ..
More than 2 weeks
They took over the club on the 21st July
You would be no good if they were your specialist subject on Mastermind. You would be playing serious catch up on the general knowledge round
If Dobson leaves then it’s all Bromley Addicks fault.
Simple as that.
Same goes for CBT too.
Na... they will just blame the owners!!
As they should If we were top 6, winning games, with a real chance of promotion and the club made them a good offer, they'd sign.
I wouldn't re-sign for us based on the current footballing prospects at CAFC
They must be crazy though- what with Appleton being the best coach in the world and all that...
Club is a mess.. It is no quick fix! this years of damage.. And if you are not going to allow time, it will never be fixed!
Super hero Varney isn't coming to the rescue.. suck it up, and support! We have little option..
But Charlie said it wasn't hard with better management to reduce the losses to £1.5m - £2m per year and establish ourselves as a top half Championship side.
If it's not hard how comes we're making it look quite difficult being a top half Division 3 side??...
Won't happen over night.. It takes time!
Andy Scott is on the record as saying we have a squad to compete for top 6. He said failure stops now Methven said you only have to be better than previous owners to dramatically cut losses and establish ourselves in the top half of the Championship.
They were completely wrong or they aren't very good at their jobs.
Of course it would take time regardless of the manager etc
Right now though, we are lightyears away.
Scott hasn't got it right, everyone knows and the owners know that as well.. Let's see what happens over the next 2 windows, then make a real judgement!
As I said, it won't happen over night!
We are not looking to scrap the bottom of the barrel now.
Two more windows On top of the last two he's had some say in, plus this one? FIVE WINDOWS? We are really setting the bar low aren't we
Please stop saying Scott has had two windows already. Please!!!
window 1. He was working for sandgaard under a completely different brief. The owner wanted out and wanted to reduce costs. From sandgaards point of view, last January was a good window.
window 2. What percentage of the window had gone when the new owners took control? How many realistic targets had moved on by that stage?
window 3. This is the first full window Scott has had.
Summary. As this is his first full window and I'll judge him come February.
This is his 3rd window (The 2nd one not a full one as highlighted below)
The whole of January last year
From the 21st July when his group that he’s employed by took over the club. His last 4 signings shown to be panic stations and 2 of those already thrown back
And 11 days into this one now and very likely to still be charge by the end of it
If you want to count the first one, then do.. But when was Scott appointed, wasn't right at the end of December, so there would have been no plan, and was still working with Gallen, and Martin S.. So not as straight forward as you think.. Summer was the same as well.. This is first real run at it, on his own, making decision without people from the other side to go through..
I just have Dubai and will continue to do so on here and on other platforms . I look at the dates and deal with the facts from there on.
Scott along with Holden, Warrick and Rodwell were appointed on the 20th December 2022
Okay, 10 days before a window opens. As you say we will work on facts, as the article says ''Scott will work alongside Director of Recruiting, Steve Gallen, and Director of Analytics, Martin Sandgaard." He wasn't in-control of recruitment, he worked alongside Director of Recruitment, Steve Gallen. So we won't count that as a window then, as he wasn't in control.. And we can use that for the summer window as well, as the takeover wasn't until 21st July
If Dobson leaves then it’s all Bromley Addicks fault.
Simple as that.
Same goes for CBT too.
Na... they will just blame the owners!!
As they should If we were top 6, winning games, with a real chance of promotion and the club made them a good offer, they'd sign.
I wouldn't re-sign for us based on the current footballing prospects at CAFC
They must be crazy though- what with Appleton being the best coach in the world and all that...
Club is a mess.. It is no quick fix! this years of damage.. And if you are not going to allow time, it will never be fixed!
Super hero Varney isn't coming to the rescue.. suck it up, and support! We have little option..
"Suck it up"
Wow, you really just told other fans who aren't happy to "suck it up"
Unbelievable.
What other options do we have?
Suck it up and try to support the club, and see what happens or don't go and spend your hard earned cash.
Think last night they delivered a message, they know they haven't got it right, they have made mistake, they know it isn't an easy fix, they are trying to correct the wrongs, they have owners who are willing to invest money in the playing side, and non-playing side.
I am frustrated as much as anyone how poor this season has been, how we have left ourselves short, how things don't seem to be going to plan this window.. But need to give them a chance, personally,
I don't we will see the really benefits for another 18months - 2 years in my opinion, it is a project!
Hold on.... not going to plan this window??
But but but..... you said on Monday it was going to be a busy week!!!!
Quickest reversal since your last one!
It is football, things are always changing, players change minds more times than hot dinners.. Not everything does go to plan when recruiting players, and that's not only Charlton, that is clubs up and down the country!!
I am going to leave it here now..
I believe you are being fed information that is simply not true.
Anyway.. Coventry deal might be back on.. Shef Wed have refused to match our offer in terms of wages! So we are back in with a sniff, but there our 2 other championship clubs interested, but haven't agreed a fee as of yet. Might have been the player Scott was talking to last night.
If Dobson leaves then it’s all Bromley Addicks fault.
Simple as that.
Same goes for CBT too.
Na... they will just blame the owners!!
As they should If we were top 6, winning games, with a real chance of promotion and the club made them a good offer, they'd sign.
I wouldn't re-sign for us based on the current footballing prospects at CAFC
They must be crazy though- what with Appleton being the best coach in the world and all that...
Club is a mess.. It is no quick fix! this years of damage.. And if you are not going to allow time, it will never be fixed!
Super hero Varney isn't coming to the rescue.. suck it up, and support! We have little option..
"Suck it up"
Wow, you really just told other fans who aren't happy to "suck it up"
Unbelievable.
What other options do we have?
Suck it up and try to support the club, and see what happens or don't go and spend your hard earned cash.
Think last night they delivered a message, they know they haven't got it right, they have made mistake, they know it isn't an easy fix, they are trying to correct the wrongs, they have owners who are willing to invest money in the playing side, and non-playing side.
I am frustrated as much as anyone how poor this season has been, how we have left ourselves short, how things don't seem to be going to plan this window.. But need to give them a chance, personally,
I don't we will see the really benefits for another 18months - 2 years in my opinion, it is a project!
Hold on.... not going to plan this window??
But but but..... you said on Monday it was going to be a busy week!!!!
Quickest reversal since your last one!
It is football, things are always changing, players change minds more times than hot dinners.. Not everything does go to plan when recruiting players, and that's not only Charlton, that is clubs up and down the country!!
I am going to leave it here now..
I believe you are being fed information that is simply not true.
This is getting ridiculous! The thread title is January 2024 Transfer rumours, yet we have had pages and pages of discussing AS and how many windows he's had, added to last night's fans forum. Why can't this thread be about rumours and everything else go on another existing thread or start a new one. I log in of a morning see 60 or so unread posts....not one fucking rumour, just people bloody arguing again! Please can we just stick to any rumours, if any, and if not take the other stuff elsewhere...simple surely!
DOBBO: can I start by saying that I love Dobbo, I think he is the best player in the team with Alfie and I also know there is no loyalty in football but remember when he signed for us, there were Sunderland fans a plenty calling him useless, good riddance and will drive him to Charlton myself, since then he has progressed greatly here to the extent that he was given the captain's armband, now after a good last season and a half he wants away! I know all the arguments about basket case club and all that but a bit of loyalty wouldn't go a miss, I am sure he has been made a very good offer and it gets on my threepenny bits when you take a player out of a shite situation they were in, improve them and suddenly they want off, I'll don the old battered tin hat now whoever has got it
I don't think there's really a lot to be said for loyalty in football. When Dobson signed for us it was for a manager who openly didn't want him, played him in the first few games in a role that didn't suit him where he was totally abject, and then discarded him completely. Jackson brought him back in but Garner also didn't fancy him until he proved himself after McGrandles got injured. He's had a run of being important since then but he's only ever one managerial change or poor run of form away from being an afterthought and he knows that. He watched Stockley lose the captaincy after a bad run so he'll know that's not even a certain thing. He's probably got two good contracts left in him, regardless of whether the club is a mess or not I wouldn't blame him for challenging himself at a higher level or for more money.
It wasn't that long ago Stockley was saying he wanted to stay at the club for life and people were hoping we rejected any bids from Sheffield Wednesday in the summer, and by the next window the fans were celebrating an offer coming in from Fleetwood. You can guarantee there are people who were berating the club for not getting Fraser that same summer who would be applauding him getting shipped out this month as well. There's as much loyalty from players as there is from us I reckon.
If Dobson leaves then it’s all Bromley Addicks fault.
Simple as that.
Same goes for CBT too.
Na... they will just blame the owners!!
As they should If we were top 6, winning games, with a real chance of promotion and the club made them a good offer, they'd sign.
I wouldn't re-sign for us based on the current footballing prospects at CAFC
They must be crazy though- what with Appleton being the best coach in the world and all that...
Club is a mess.. It is no quick fix! this years of damage.. And if you are not going to allow time, it will never be fixed!
Super hero Varney isn't coming to the rescue.. suck it up, and support! We have little option..
But Charlie said it wasn't hard with better management to reduce the losses to £1.5m - £2m per year and establish ourselves as a top half Championship side.
If it's not hard how comes we're making it look quite difficult being a top half Division 3 side??...
Won't happen over night.. It takes time!
Andy Scott is on the record as saying we have a squad to compete for top 6. He said failure stops now Methven said you only have to be better than previous owners to dramatically cut losses and establish ourselves in the top half of the Championship.
They were completely wrong or they aren't very good at their jobs.
Of course it would take time regardless of the manager etc
Right now though, we are lightyears away.
Scott hasn't got it right, everyone knows and the owners know that as well.. Let's see what happens over the next 2 windows, then make a real judgement!
As I said, it won't happen over night!
We are not looking to scrap the bottom of the barrel now.
Two more windows On top of the last two he's had some say in, plus this one? FIVE WINDOWS? We are really setting the bar low aren't we
Please stop saying Scott has had two windows already. Please!!!
window 1. He was working for sandgaard under a completely different brief. The owner wanted out and wanted to reduce costs. From sandgaards point of view, last January was a good window.
window 2. What percentage of the window had gone when the new owners took control? How many realistic targets had moved on by that stage?
window 3. This is the first full window Scott has had.
Summary. As this is his first full window and I'll judge him come February.
This is his 3rd window (The 2nd one not a full one as highlighted below)
The whole of January last year
From the 21st July when his group that he’s employed by took over the club. His last 4 signings shown to be panic stations and 2 of those already thrown back
And 11 days into this one now and very likely to still be charge by the end of it
If you want to count the first one, then do.. But when was Scott appointed, wasn't right at the end of December, so there would have been no plan, and was still working with Gallen, and Martin S.. So not as straight forward as you think.. Summer was the same as well.. This is first real run at it, on his own, making decision without people from the other side to go through..
I just have Dubai and will continue to do so on here and on other platforms . I look at the dates and deal with the facts from there on.
Scott along with Holden, Warrick and Rodwell were appointed on the 20th December 2022
Okay, 10 days before a window opens. As you say we will work on facts, as the article says ''Scott will work alongside Director of Recruiting, Steve Gallen, and Director of Analytics, Martin Sandgaard." He wasn't in-control of recruitment, he worked alongside Director of Recruitment, Steve Gallen. So we won't count that as a window then, as he wasn't in control.. And we can use that for the summer window as well, as the takeover wasn't until 21st July
Transfer window didn't close for 6 weeks and as Rodwell said, everything happens on the last day .... so not accepting it
I’m kinda with Dubai in that we have to suck it up. What are the other options?
There are more dodgy owners than good ones these days. There is no knight in shining armour who is going to swoop in.
I hate the fact that we’re now another a project for another set of owners, but that is the case and would have been the case for anyone that took over the club.
I wasn't seriously suggesting to close the thread. Evidently by my posts I think they're full of absolute shit and desperate for fans not to kick up a fuss.
I am glad you enjoy the thread, I do as well. I was just pointing out the shit that was thrown up yesterday suggests we are in for the very driest of January's.
If Dobson leaves then it’s all Bromley Addicks fault.
Simple as that.
Same goes for CBT too.
Na... they will just blame the owners!!
As they should If we were top 6, winning games, with a real chance of promotion and the club made them a good offer, they'd sign.
I wouldn't re-sign for us based on the current footballing prospects at CAFC
They must be crazy though- what with Appleton being the best coach in the world and all that...
Club is a mess.. It is no quick fix! this years of damage.. And if you are not going to allow time, it will never be fixed!
Super hero Varney isn't coming to the rescue.. suck it up, and support! We have little option..
But Charlie said it wasn't hard with better management to reduce the losses to £1.5m - £2m per year and establish ourselves as a top half Championship side.
If it's not hard how comes we're making it look quite difficult being a top half Division 3 side??...
Won't happen over night.. It takes time!
Andy Scott is on the record as saying we have a squad to compete for top 6. He said failure stops now Methven said you only have to be better than previous owners to dramatically cut losses and establish ourselves in the top half of the Championship.
They were completely wrong or they aren't very good at their jobs.
Of course it would take time regardless of the manager etc
Right now though, we are lightyears away.
Scott hasn't got it right, everyone knows and the owners know that as well.. Let's see what happens over the next 2 windows, then make a real judgement!
As I said, it won't happen over night!
We are not looking to scrap the bottom of the barrel now.
Two more windows On top of the last two he's had some say in, plus this one? FIVE WINDOWS? We are really setting the bar low aren't we
They not .. they had two weeks in the summer and this one .. everything else had to be agreed through TS ..
More than 2 weeks
They took over the club on the 21st July
You would be no good if they were your specialist subject on Mastermind. You would be playing serious catch up on the general knowledge round
Anyway.. Coventry deal might be back on.. Shef Wed have refused to match our offer in terms of wages! So we are back in with a sniff, but there our 2 other championship clubs interested, but haven't agreed a fee as of yet. Might have been the player Scott was talking to last night.
As I said, footballers can change there minds very quickly, deals can be on and off all the time.
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The whole of January last year
From the 21st July when his group that he’s employed by took over the club. His last 4 signings shown to be panic stations and 2 of those already thrown back
And 11 days into this one now and very likely to still be charge by the end of it
We're trying to bring in JCH who Posh are wanting to sell because his contract is running out, so it's a common decision in football post Bosman.
If they approached me, I’d have reservations.
The club is in a very difficult position to attract any permanent signings right now.
Will be easier in the summer once we know what league we are in and you have time to plan properly for early summer signings.
https://www.charltonafc.com/news/holden-scott-rodwell-and-warrick-appointed-senior-roles
Penney
Kane
The midfielder whose name I can barely remember
Hector (not bad, they can have that one)
and what they picked up last minute.com in the sales in August needs their bumps felt
They talk a good game
but maybe they can't actually see a good player when it's smacking them in the face
I noticed from the presentation that not only do we have our own data analysts, but we are also using a data analyst firm
And yet we still keep signing shit!
It wasn't that long ago Stockley was saying he wanted to stay at the club for life and people were hoping we rejected any bids from Sheffield Wednesday in the summer, and by the next window the fans were celebrating an offer coming in from Fleetwood. You can guarantee there are people who were berating the club for not getting Fraser that same summer who would be applauding him getting shipped out this month as well. There's as much loyalty from players as there is from us I reckon.
I hate the fact that we’re now another a project for another set of owners, but that is the case and would have been the case for anyone that took over the club.
I wasn't seriously suggesting to close the thread. Evidently by my posts I think they're full of absolute shit and desperate for fans not to kick up a fuss.
I am glad you enjoy the thread, I do as well. I was just pointing out the shit that was thrown up yesterday suggests we are in for the very driest of January's.
@ValleyGary
What does wobble mean, is that some sort of suggestion I'm flapping in how I've posted or?