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Andy Scott Appointed Technical Director

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    Think the term "Techinical Director" is in no way linked to anything Scott does or did, and if the role can be that easily adapted, it kind of suggests to me that it's not a very important role, it's not needed and it's just there to give him a title. With Jones now in place, I personally think Scott will be gone by the start of the next window.

    Does a club at our level really need the luxury of a "go between" for the specialists and the board? And if we do, surely that can fall into Rodwells remit. Along with thrashing out player contacts etc. All with the help of an assistant maybe.
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    Genuine question, Benny Hill gags aside, Have we got a serious scouting network?
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    Sorry, couldn't resist.
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    Genuine question, Benny Hill gags aside, Have we got a serious scouting network?
    According to Scott, no.

    It was one of things he said needed to be bigger, wider and better.
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    edited February 13
    Genuine question, Benny Hill gags aside, Have we got a serious scouting network?
    Seem to remember this got cut down during the Roland era, as the network was going to produce the goods. 
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    edited February 13
    DubaiCAFC said:
    vff said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    fenaddick said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Have we ever heard publicly from Lenagan if he has so much say on things? Seems a bit odd to have a Sporting Director and a Technical Director as I'd have thought there would have been quite a bit of crossover in terms of who's responsible for what. 

    Hopefully NJ being appointed as manager and not head coach takes out a lot of the ambiguity surrounding who's responsible for what. 
    We haven’t but I guess that’s because Lenegan works for GFP not CAFC. Still think that in the next 5 years GFP will buy a team somewhere like Holland or a lower division team in France or Spain, maybe even Asia given the ownership connection. Lenegan will then oversee the sporting operation of the whole group to make sure strategy is similar. 

    Roland spectacularly failed with the multi club model so CAFC fans are rightfully sceptical but it can work when done correct. CAFC need to be a lot more successful for it to work though, you need to be top end Championship minimum
    I wouldn't say that is too far from the mark, and I believe the direction they would go, but Charlton being the flagship of it. Charlie has been the public figure, but is he the brains behind it and the power, I am not so sure! 

    Your friend ‘ Charlie ‘ . I hope you are getting some airline tickets or discount off the season tickets for all this PR deflection & muddying of the water 🤞
    Yes, I get regular meals at Burj Al Arab on the clubs expenses, along with private jet to every single game! Oh he also allows me to have the final say on everything that happens! Along with the odd bit of 'Charlie'...
    So a real ‘ proper Charlie’ then  💫 Good for you Dubai, glad that you are getting some ‘hospitality’ alongside the retainer. 
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    vff said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    vff said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    fenaddick said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Have we ever heard publicly from Lenagan if he has so much say on things? Seems a bit odd to have a Sporting Director and a Technical Director as I'd have thought there would have been quite a bit of crossover in terms of who's responsible for what. 

    Hopefully NJ being appointed as manager and not head coach takes out a lot of the ambiguity surrounding who's responsible for what. 
    We haven’t but I guess that’s because Lenegan works for GFP not CAFC. Still think that in the next 5 years GFP will buy a team somewhere like Holland or a lower division team in France or Spain, maybe even Asia given the ownership connection. Lenegan will then oversee the sporting operation of the whole group to make sure strategy is similar. 

    Roland spectacularly failed with the multi club model so CAFC fans are rightfully sceptical but it can work when done correct. CAFC need to be a lot more successful for it to work though, you need to be top end Championship minimum
    I wouldn't say that is too far from the mark, and I believe the direction they would go, but Charlton being the flagship of it. Charlie has been the public figure, but is he the brains behind it and the power, I am not so sure! 

    Your friend ‘ Charlie ‘ . I hope you are getting some airline tickets or discount off the season tickets for all this PR deflection & muddying of the water 🤞
    Yes, I get regular meals at Burj Al Arab on the clubs expenses, along with private jet to every single game! Oh he also allows me to have the final say on everything that happens! Along with the odd bit of 'Charlie'...
    So a real ‘ proper Charlie’ then  💫 Good for you Dubai, glad that you are getting some ‘hospitality’ alongside the retainer. 
    Yes, also have a new set of wheels sitting outside the mansion as well.
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    edited February 13
    Genuine question, Benny Hill gags aside, Have we got a serious scouting network?
    According to Scott, no.

    It was one of things he said needed to be bigger, wider and better.
    Obviously in Scott's (or a new owner's) best interests to frame the issue that way... on the other hand it does seem entirely believable given the combination of the Duchatalet "centralised" scouting setup, the Southall "super deal phone" years, and the Sandgaard nepotism model.  
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    Genuine question, Benny Hill gags aside, Have we got a serious scouting network?
    According to Scott, no.

    It was one of things he said needed to be bigger, wider and better.
    Thank you Henry, it would be good for the club to communicate how they have improved it, especially with season ticket sales on the horizon, I can’t believe fans are going to want to put up with this going forwards, it’s a right old mess.
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    One difference between Lenegan and Scott is that Lenegan has a small financial stake whereas Scott is just a hired hand. If I recall rightly Lenegan and Methven were co-operating before the consortium came together. So to some extent Lenegan can specify his own role and have his say beyond that role too, even if only informally. 

    In other words, @DubaiCAFC is right to remind us of his existence.
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    Sadly Lenagan has literally no football experience, apart from being the son of a rich bloke that bought Oxford.   He is also a shit actor but pays for his roles in films.

    So, with him having a say and Andy Scott "scouting" the players, we literally stand no effin' chance of improving much.....
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    One difference between Lenegan and Scott is that Lenegan has a small financial stake whereas Scott is just a hired hand. If I recall rightly Lenegan and Methven were co-operating before the consortium came together. So to some extent Lenegan can specify his own role and have his say beyond that role too, even if only informally. 

    In other words, @DubaiCAFC is right to remind us of his existence.
    almost as if I didn't mention him  :'(
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    It would be unfair to say playing with Edun and Watson is like starting with 9 men but I think you can dock half a man off each and say it is like playing with 10 men.
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    edited February 13
    One difference between Lenegan and Scott is that Lenegan has a small financial stake whereas Scott is just a hired hand. If I recall rightly Lenegan and Methven were co-operating before the consortium came together. So to some extent Lenegan can specify his own role and have his say beyond that role too, even if only informally. 

    In other words, @DubaiCAFC is right to remind us of his existence.
    Still the tail wagging the dog. I find it unlikely that these small shareholders have any authority in the end, if the main ones move against them.
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    edited February 13
    One difference between Lenegan and Scott is that Lenegan has a small financial stake whereas Scott is just a hired hand. If I recall rightly Lenegan and Methven were co-operating before the consortium came together. So to some extent Lenegan can specify his own role and have his say beyond that role too, even if only informally. 

    In other words, @DubaiCAFC is right to remind us of his existence.
    Still the tail wagging the dog. I find it unlikely that these small shareholders have any authority in the end, if the main ones move against them.
     How difficult do you think it wouid be for the main players to walk away?

    It's my main fear that Methven and co will be left holding the baby here.
    The appointment of Jones and word that the tail was bypassed by the main players to get their man eased my fears a bit. But I'm still a bit concerned.
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    One difference between Lenegan and Scott is that Lenegan has a small financial stake whereas Scott is just a hired hand. If I recall rightly Lenegan and Methven were co-operating before the consortium came together. So to some extent Lenegan can specify his own role and have his say beyond that role too, even if only informally. 

    In other words, @DubaiCAFC is right to remind us of his existence.
    Still the tail wagging the dog. I find it unlikely that these small shareholders have any authority in the end, if the main ones move against them.
     How difficult do you think it wouid be for the main players to walk away?

    It's my main fear that Methven and co will be left holding the baby here.
    The appointment of Jones and word that the tail was bypassed by the main players to get their man eased my fears a bit. But I'm still a bit concerned.
    More likely (to me) that Methven and Co will be removed from the SMT and given token positions or even just removed entirely. 

    The main players probably wouldn't go through with buying in first place if they were going yo just give up and write it off that soon. Or at least will want more back than they'd get by trying to sell in L2. 
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    Where is Methven anyway?  Distinct lack of Methven around the interweb since we've been spiraling faster down the plug hole...
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    Get rid of both, ask Curbs to run the club!  Problem solved!
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    One difference between Lenegan and Scott is that Lenegan has a small financial stake whereas Scott is just a hired hand. If I recall rightly Lenegan and Methven were co-operating before the consortium came together. So to some extent Lenegan can specify his own role and have his say beyond that role too, even if only informally. 

    In other words, @DubaiCAFC is right to remind us of his existence.
    We don't need reminding 
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    Someone's enjoying this thread more than most!



     

    Prefer neither tbh
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    edited February 15
    DubaiCAFC said:
    vff said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    vff said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    fenaddick said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Have we ever heard publicly from Lenagan if he has so much say on things? Seems a bit odd to have a Sporting Director and a Technical Director as I'd have thought there would have been quite a bit of crossover in terms of who's responsible for what. 

    Hopefully NJ being appointed as manager and not head coach takes out a lot of the ambiguity surrounding who's responsible for what. 
    We haven’t but I guess that’s because Lenegan works for GFP not CAFC. Still think that in the next 5 years GFP will buy a team somewhere like Holland or a lower division team in France or Spain, maybe even Asia given the ownership connection. Lenegan will then oversee the sporting operation of the whole group to make sure strategy is similar. 

    Roland spectacularly failed with the multi club model so CAFC fans are rightfully sceptical but it can work when done correct. CAFC need to be a lot more successful for it to work though, you need to be top end Championship minimum
    I wouldn't say that is too far from the mark, and I believe the direction they would go, but Charlton being the flagship of it. Charlie has been the public figure, but is he the brains behind it and the power, I am not so sure! 

    Your friend ‘ Charlie ‘ . I hope you are getting some airline tickets or discount off the season tickets for all this PR deflection & muddying of the water 🤞
    Yes, I get regular meals at Burj Al Arab on the clubs expenses, along with private jet to every single game! Oh he also allows me to have the final say on everything that happens! Along with the odd bit of 'Charlie'...
    So a real ‘ proper Charlie’ then  💫 Good for you Dubai, glad that you are getting some ‘hospitality’ alongside the retainer. 
    Yes, also have a new set of wheels sitting outside the mansion as well.

    New sets of wheels in the car park, powerpoints that promise glorious futures don't match up to reality,  crap Jan transfer windows and dodgy SMTs and hangers on. 
    Charlton supporters been there and seen that.
    It would be great if you could run something by 'Charlie'.
    To symbolise a new beginning with Nathan Jones and Paul Hart - In the centre circle before the next home game - could 'Charlie' burn a pair of his pink trousers, with their strategy plan (pretty thin that one), suggesty using Andy Scott's powerpoints as fuel and add the 352 formation too.
    Then 'Charlie' make a proper and solemn promise that the SMT will hand over control of the footballing side with identifying new players and team formation to Nathan Jones and Paul Hart. The SMT can then count paper clips (drawing a wage) or whatever expertise they have.
    It would really encourage Chartlon supporters & the team for survival in League One and future success. Cheers.


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