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January Transfer Window - Jan 2023 (Deadline Day starts page 112)

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  • edited February 2023
    Croydon said:
    Hector keeps himself fit but not fit enough for the match day squad 
    He might as well stay back getting more training in instead of sitting on a bench 

    You are correct with that comment. Hector will be on a fitness program to shake off the tons of dust.

    Kilkenney despite playing very few games appears to be a natural athlete who would do well on the bleep tests. Just needs games to get Match fit and reach his optimum performances. Good debut overall and proved he is a fit lad.

    Big CB are so different. Most would rather do Gym work than too much running. Even the fans favourite German, Patrick Bauer our Wembley hero could look sluggish after coming back from yet another injury set back. Same problems at Preston where BFG misses more games than he plays.

    Michael Hector was at Sheffield Wednesday having a trial and it looks like they will be in the Championship next season. Ok he didn't get to their required level but we are mid table and treading water until the take over.

    I go back to my first thoughts on Michael Hector: A total disaster or a cult hero.
    Two weeks of bespoke training at the training ground may give him more chance of being the latter.

  • JamesSeed said:
    JamesSeed said:
    “Diagonal passes going into the stands”, “Form fell off a cliff second half of the season “, “Confidence issues”

    Sounds perfect 
    I think you have to balance that against the rest of the comments which were basically ‘too good for League One’.
    I agree with your view of the comments @JamesSeed
    I thought the comments were very positive  :)
  • edited February 2023
    Blucher said:
    Selling our most reliable and experienced central defender was bonkers, given the problems we've had defensively all season and the fact O'Connell was the only established player on a long term contract. Inniss - who always has a mistake in him - is out of contract in June (and, in my opinion, needs to be moved on); ditto the unwanted Thomas, who was about to sign for Forest Green; Lavelle's Charlton's career will be over if anyone will take him in the summer; and Hector - who has played something like 4 games in the last 18 months and none this season, only has a deal until June.

    So come 1 July, we could potentially be in a position where our only contracted central defenders will be Ness, a veteran of 11 first team games (assuming he's not been sold by then) and two teenagers, Deji Elerewe and Zac Mitchell. 

    Whilst it made sense to unload fringe players, it's as plain as a pikestaff that the whole objective of the window was to cut costs to the bone. Judging by the remarks of Burton's manager, Dino Maamria, they smelt our desperation to get Kirk and Lavelle temporarily off the premises:

    In chasing the Charlton duo, Maamria had to hold his nerve: “I wanted them both at the start of the window but at first they weren’t available – then they were available but for a high price,” he said. “Then, two days before the last day, they became available at a price that was affordable to us. 

    In terms of incomings, it's all desperately short term and, of the 5 players who have joined, only Matt Penney has played more than a handful of games this season. None of us will be surprised if Kane is not the only one to suffer an injury setback.

    My recollection is that, in Andy Scott's first interview after he joined, he boldly stated that "I wouldn't be here if there wasn't a budget to improve the squad" - the clear implication being that money was available and there would be permanent deals. That was misleading and for him and Holden to now assert that it's been a good window and the squad has been strengthened is an insult to our intelligence. As employees (in Scott's case, for at least another week), they're almost obliged to put a positive spin on things, but please don't take us for mugs.


    Football politics:
    Andy Scott having a short term Contract of six weeks made it obvious that fringe players would be moved on, whether loan or full time. The worse kept secret is Thomas Sandgaard is looking to sell and keep a %.

    No 'assets' AMB, Ness, Leaburn, Dobson, CBT, Fraser left the building despite interest. 
    Not being a mug( my wife will disagree !) I know that was because the players are the only 'Assets' that Sandgaard owns at CAFC. O'Connell going was a disappointment but compared to the players above ? At Least Dean Holden owned that move and explained why. Not ideal for Cafc fans I agree.
     
    Yes, Scott put a Spin on it, because that's what happens in football and the business world, but I don't believe Scott and Holden are taking us for mugs, it just the club is in limbo yet again and trying to keep the people paying your wages happy but also the Fan/critic base is a tough gig.

    An articulate post from you Blucher but I never expect anything less; I respect your views.
  • JamesSeed said:
    JamesSeed said:
    “Diagonal passes going into the stands”, “Form fell off a cliff second half of the season “, “Confidence issues”

    Sounds perfect 
    I think you have to balance that against the rest of the comments which were basically ‘too good for League One’.
    I agree with your view of the comments @JamesSeed
    I thought the comments were very positive  :)
    Finally! 😃
  • Croydon said:
    Hector keeps himself fit but not fit enough for the match day squad 
    He might as well stay back getting more training in instead of sitting on a bench 

    You are correct with that comment. Hector will be on a fitness program to shake off the tons of dust.

    Kilkenney despite playing very few games appears to be a natural athlete who would do well on the bleep tests. Just needs games to get Match fit and reach his optimum performances. Good debut overall and proved he is a fit lad.

    Big CB are so different. Most would rather do Gym work than too much running. Even the fans favourite German, Patrick Bauer our Wembley hero could look sluggish after coming back from yet another injury set back. Same problems at Preston where BFG misses more games than he plays.

    Michael Hector was at Sheffield Wednesday having a trial and it looks like they will be in the Championship next season. Ok he didn't get to their required level but we are mid table and treading water until the take over.

    I go back to my first thoughts on Michael Hector: A total disaster or a cult hero.
    Two weeks of bespoke training at the training ground may give him more chance of being the latter.

    Depends on who was keeping him out or who he could replace at Wednesday. When we had Bauer, Pearce and Sarr, it would have hard for anyone to come in and grab a start and stay there. 
  • Jac_52 said:
    Ness is actually better than o Connell tbh and personally I like Inniss and hope we give him a new contract.
    Inniss plays 10 games 7 he very good two he does ok and 1 he makes a mistake ….. which ones do the fans notice ??
    Make you right Ronnie.
  • Who do the U21's play on Tuesday?
    The next fixture listed on the OS has Colchester away on Valentines day.
  • mart77 said:
    Does anyone know why @DubaiCAFC mentioned things were looking positive?

    Not been a bad window, address our major area of concern. Upped the quality in the squad, and have got rid of the big time charlies on big wages! 

    It would have been nice to have got 1 or 2 more.. but not bad
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  • Somebody said Hector had dodgy hamstrings, more bull5shit! Seen no evidence of this.
  • One of the biggest positive I can think is that it look likes Sheffield/Derby and Ipswich could be going up this season. If (and big if) we can get our house in order before the summer then losing the clubs with the biggest wage bills would be a bonus. 
  • Redhenry said:
    Somebody said Hector had dodgy hamstrings, more bull5shit! Seen no evidence of this.
    That someone was me when I referenced him having Aneke's hamstrings. Considering the remark got 9 lols I thought the joke was quite clear.

  • edited February 2023
    It’s funny how a narrative develops about a new signing. Someone not playing much for a couple of years because they’ve been on the bench in the Premier League is very different from someone hardly playing because they’re injury prone. The irony is that Hector has ‘never had a serious injury’. 
    Looking forward to seeing his progress. Perhaps he’ll click at Charlton. 
  • One of the biggest positive I can think is that it look likes Sheffield/Derby and Ipswich could be going up this season. If (and big if) we can get our house in order before the summer then losing the clubs with the biggest wage bills would be a bonus. 
    Only one of those are in the automatic places though. I think ipswich will bottle it (it's in their dna) and the playoffs are a lottery. There is as also a strong possibility that derby and ipswich will both be in this league next season. I think sheff w will win the league and Plymouth will finish second.
  • Redhenry said:
    Gallen may be good, he may not be. We don't know! You will only know if you have day to day dealings with him. Starting to really p1ss me off on here, people making statements as though it's a fact. When they don't really have a clue!
    I wouldn't take it personally, people can judge Gallen all they like based on the signings we made under his tenure. Far, far more misses than hits but as we all know, he's no longer in the scouting hot-seat and hasn't been for a year or so - if he's a good negotiator then happy for him to stay on in that capacity personally, as it seems Andy Scott will be the primary target identifier under the potential new regime.
  • edited February 2023
    Redhenry said:
    Somebody said Hector had dodgy hamstrings, more bull5shit! Seen no evidence of this.
    That someone was me when I referenced him having Aneke's hamstrings. Considering the remark got 9 lols I thought the joke was quite clear.

    Another crap joke then, plenty of them as well!  
    There has been plenty, implying he is injury prone, which doesn't seem to be the case...

  • Watching the EFL highlights this weekend, I saw horrendous errors by decent defenders and keepers in all 3 divisions which cost goals. Players do make mistakes.
  • Redhenry said:
    Redhenry said:
    Somebody said Hector had dodgy hamstrings, more bull5shit! Seen no evidence of this.
    That someone was me when I referenced him having Aneke's hamstrings. Considering the remark got 9 lols I thought the joke was quite clear.

    Another crap joke then, plenty of them as well!  
    There has been plenty, implying he is injury prone, which doesn't seem to be the case...

    If you pay attention to any of my posts you would see that myself and @Cafc43v3r actually spent some time dispelling the discourse that Hector was injury prone.

    My comment comparing him to Aneke was completely satirical in nature in response to this discourse, and it is clear that on the whole most people seemed to have got this.


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  • Redhenry said:
    Redhenry said:
    Somebody said Hector had dodgy hamstrings, more bull5shit! Seen no evidence of this.
    That someone was me when I referenced him having Aneke's hamstrings. Considering the remark got 9 lols I thought the joke was quite clear.

    Another crap joke then, plenty of them as well!  
    There has been plenty, implying he is injury prone, which doesn't seem to be the case...

    If you pay attention to any of my posts you would see that myself and @Cafc43v3r actually spent some time dispelling the discourse that Hector was injury prone.

    My comment comparing him to Aneke was completely satirical in nature in response to this discourse, and it is clear that on the whole most people seemed to have got this.


    Well done!
  • Redhenry said:
    Redhenry said:
    Redhenry said:
    Somebody said Hector had dodgy hamstrings, more bull5shit! Seen no evidence of this.
    That someone was me when I referenced him having Aneke's hamstrings. Considering the remark got 9 lols I thought the joke was quite clear.

    Another crap joke then, plenty of them as well!  
    There has been plenty, implying he is injury prone, which doesn't seem to be the case...

    If you pay attention to any of my posts you would see that myself and @Cafc43v3r actually spent some time dispelling the discourse that Hector was injury prone.

    My comment comparing him to Aneke was completely satirical in nature in response to this discourse, and it is clear that on the whole most people seemed to have got this.


    Well done!
    Don't remember quoting u anyway!
  • Redhenry said:
    Somebody said Hector had dodgy hamstrings, more bull5shit! Seen no evidence of this.
    A few days ago I made the point that if Hector was played before he was ready, then you bet he'd do a hamstrung.
    Like Kane did.

    Doesn't mean these players have dodgy hamstrings - just they haven't played for a while and not match fit.
    It's a risk for any player to play them before they are at full fitness.


  • Away from us, Chris Martin who was a free agent has signed for QPR until the end of the season
  • Away from us, Chris Martin who was a free agent has signed for QPR until the end of the season
    I did wonder about him or Wickham.
  • Richard J said:
    Away from us, Chris Martin who was a free agent has signed for QPR until the end of the season
    I did wonder about him or Wickham.
    Wickham was a weird one done really well this season and maybe thought he could do better and it has backfired
  • Richard J said:
    Away from us, Chris Martin who was a free agent has signed for QPR until the end of the season
    I did wonder about him or Wickham.
    Wickham was a weird one done really well this season and maybe thought he could do better and it has backfired
    Unattached so can still sign for someone.  I reckon he shit himself that  Ferguson was taking over and bolted
  • Richard J said:
    Away from us, Chris Martin who was a free agent has signed for QPR until the end of the season
    I did wonder about him or Wickham.
    Wickham was a weird one done really well this season and maybe thought he could do better and it has backfired
    Been without a club since before Christmas, so it'll take him a few weeks to get match fit again.
  • killerandflash said:
    CharltontillidieCOYR said:
    Richard J said:
    killerandflash said:
    Away from us, Chris Martin who was a free agent has signed for QPR until the end of the season
    I did wonder about him or Wickham.
    Wickham was a weird one done really well this season and maybe thought he could do better and it has backfired
    Been without a club since before Christmas, so it'll take him a few weeks to get match fit again.

    Perfect for us!

  • Away from us, Chris Martin who was a free agent has signed for QPR until the end of the season
    That's strange he would sign for them knowing he has to go on tour with Coldplay soon.
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