Think it’s easy to blame Southgate but only Bellingham, Kane and Grealish since he came on have looked like they want it tonight.
Doesn’t help they look like a bunch of strangers playing with each other. No surprise when some of our senior players have had limited game time at their clubs.
Christ we're shit at the moment aren't we?! So much of us getting to the Euro Final was home advantage and momentum wasn't it
I think also the past two tournaments we've had favorable draws to get to the semi and final. As soon as we come up against a side where its 50/50 we inevitably lose
Bit like 2010...?
Had we won that Group, we'd have faced Ghana | Uruguay | Netherlands, that should not have been a difficult route to the Final either... The problem with England has been taking advantage of the scenario when its come our way, rather than when we have taken advantage of it
Or Euro 2016 when we lost to Iceland.
Even the back to back Tournaments we lost to Portugal, who were ranked so much lower than us
Anyway, I don't get why we don't choose players that are actually playing and in form, the commentators are bemoaning that lack of playing time for their clubs is having an affect. If they aren't good enough to start a club game, why are they starting an international game?!
Think it’s easy to blame Southgate but only Bellingham, Kane and Grealish since he came on have looked like they want it tonight.
Doesn’t help they look like a bunch of strangers playing with each other. No surprise when some of our senior players have had limited game time at their clubs.
He is picking the team ! A few of this team will play more international football minutes than club football. Ridiculous selecting players that arent playing for their clubs
Anyway, I don't get why we don't choose players that are actually playing and in form, the commentators are bemoaning that lack of playing time for their clubs is having an affect. If they aren't good enough to start a club game, why are they starting an international game?!
Because if we took that approach we'd constantly have a different eleven every England game... International sides need to have a club mentality about them, playing together constantly creates familiarity.
I mean if Charlton / Man City had a different eleven every week, do you think they'd constantly win?
How do you do that when the squad is different every break?
Looking forward to the League B match against Kazahkstan in a couple of years.
Whats staggering is if Scotland beat Ireland tomorrow, they're in League A and become the highest ranked Home Nation in the next Tournament, as Wales look set to be relegated too.
Best thing about the next Nations League for us, is it'll give the new Manager a chance to test new players as we should surely make an instant return to League A - I can honestly see us struggling, and failing to get out of the World Cup Group Stages in a few months
Anyway, I don't get why we don't choose players that are actually playing and in form, the commentators are bemoaning that lack of playing time for their clubs is having an affect. If they aren't good enough to start a club game, why are they starting an international game?!
Because if we took that approach we'd constantly have a different eleven every England game... International sides need to have a club mentality about them, playing together constantly creates familiarity.
I mean if Charlton / Man City had a different eleven every week, do you think they'd constantly win?
How do you do that when the squad is different every break?
Then how and why do the other top sides manage it?
We have a long and storied history of picking players based on what club they play for and who they're mates with and not players in form.
Besides, we don't pick the same XI every England game anyway, you seen Saka play left wing back before?
Think it’s easy to blame Southgate but only Bellingham, Kane and Grealish since he came on have looked like they want it tonight.
Doesn’t help they look like a bunch of strangers playing with each other. No surprise when some of our senior players have had limited game time at their clubs.
He is picking the team ! A few of this team will play more international football minutes than club football. Ridiculous selecting players that arent playing for their clubs
Responsibility falls with the players though for the performance they individually put in on the pitch though does it not, to an extent?
Tactically we were bettered by Italy but my point was the players were hardly performing at their best, excusing one or two.
Anyway, I don't get why we don't choose players that are actually playing and in form, the commentators are bemoaning that lack of playing time for their clubs is having an affect. If they aren't good enough to start a club game, why are they starting an international game?!
Because if we took that approach we'd constantly have a different eleven every England game... International sides need to have a club mentality about them, playing together constantly creates familiarity.
I mean if Charlton / Man City had a different eleven every week, do you think they'd constantly win?
How do you do that when the squad is different every break?
There are players regularly in the squad that dont get to start down to loyalty to certain players who are not playing regular football. Maguire for instance is to Southgate that Gunter was too JJ ! The fans player of the year and one of the most threatening players on the right in the premier league starts at LWB ? I sound like Golfie when talking about England but Southgate has been lucky with the draws in the past tournaments as soon as we face a decent team we lose.
Anyway, I don't get why we don't choose players that are actually playing and in form, the commentators are bemoaning that lack of playing time for their clubs is having an affect. If they aren't good enough to start a club game, why are they starting an international game?!
Because if we took that approach we'd constantly have a different eleven every England game... International sides need to have a club mentality about them, playing together constantly creates familiarity.
I mean if Charlton / Man City had a different eleven every week, do you think they'd constantly win?
How do you do that when the squad is different every break?
Then how and why do the other top sides manage it?
We have a long and storied history of picking players based on what club they play for and who they're mates with and not players in form.
Besides, we don't pick the same XI every England game anyway, you seen Saka play left wing back before?
So you think that other countries change their whole starting eleven each and every game?
Seriously have you actually looked into each and every squad before making your comment, or are you just presuming that because a team is winning, then its clearly because the players picked, are in form for their clubs?
Jesus wept, and you fucking well accused me of outlandish comments after the Hartlepool defeat last season
Anyway, I don't get why we don't choose players that are actually playing and in form, the commentators are bemoaning that lack of playing time for their clubs is having an affect. If they aren't good enough to start a club game, why are they starting an international game?!
Because if we took that approach we'd constantly have a different eleven every England game... International sides need to have a club mentality about them, playing together constantly creates familiarity.
I mean if Charlton / Man City had a different eleven every week, do you think they'd constantly win?
How do you do that when the squad is different every break?
There are players regularly in the squad that dont get to start down to loyalty to certain players who are not playing regular football. Maguire for instance is to Southgate that Gunter was too JJ ! The fans player of the year and one of the most threatening players on the right in the premier league starts at LWB ? I sound like Golfie when talking about England but Southgate has been lucky with the draws in the past tournaments as soon as we face a decent team we lose.
Again... Go and do some goddamn research - You think Iceland was a difficult draw in 2016 do you?
2010 World Cup had we won a Group we should have won, that wasn't difficult either - Am fed up with such lazy arguments
Anyway, I don't get why we don't choose players that are actually playing and in form, the commentators are bemoaning that lack of playing time for their clubs is having an affect. If they aren't good enough to start a club game, why are they starting an international game?!
Because if we took that approach we'd constantly have a different eleven every England game... International sides need to have a club mentality about them, playing together constantly creates familiarity.
I mean if Charlton / Man City had a different eleven every week, do you think they'd constantly win?
How do you do that when the squad is different every break?
Then how and why do the other top sides manage it?
We have a long and storied history of picking players based on what club they play for and who they're mates with and not players in form.
Besides, we don't pick the same XI every England game anyway, you seen Saka play left wing back before?
So you think that other countries change their whole starting eleven each and every game?
Seriously have you actually looked into each and every squad before making your comment, or are you just presuming that because a team is winning, then its clearly because the players picked, are in form for their clubs?
Jesus wept, and you fucking well accused me out outlandish comments after the Hartlepool defeat last season
Need to engage your brain a bit more fella
Where did I say you change the entire first XI every game?! Foden, Bellingham, Pope, Dier, Rice, Sterling, Kane all played in 90% plus of their club games this season so far, so you take players like that and compliment them with players in form.
Maguire is shit and has been for a while, and isn't playing for ManUre. Tomori is playing almost every game for Milan and thriving, is based in the country we played in tonight, knows the opponents as he's played most of them already, and is young and on the up, so why wouldn't you play him?
And bringing up comments from about 4 months ago? Fucking childish
Anyway, I don't get why we don't choose players that are actually playing and in form, the commentators are bemoaning that lack of playing time for their clubs is having an affect. If they aren't good enough to start a club game, why are they starting an international game?!
Because if we took that approach we'd constantly have a different eleven every England game... International sides need to have a club mentality about them, playing together constantly creates familiarity.
I mean if Charlton / Man City had a different eleven every week, do you think they'd constantly win?
How do you do that when the squad is different every break?
Then how and why do the other top sides manage it?
We have a long and storied history of picking players based on what club they play for and who they're mates with and not players in form.
Besides, we don't pick the same XI every England game anyway, you seen Saka play left wing back before?
So you think that other countries change their whole starting eleven each and every game?
Seriously have you actually looked into each and every squad before making your comment, or are you just presuming that because a team is winning, then its clearly because the players picked, are in form for their clubs?
Jesus wept, and you fucking well accused me out outlandish comments after the Hartlepool defeat last season
Need to engage your brain a bit more fella
Where did I say you change the entire first XI every game?! Foden, Bellingham, Pope, Dier, Rice, Sterling, Kane all played in 90% plus of their club games this season so far, so you take players like that and compliment them with players in form.
Maguire is shit and has been for a while, and isn't playing for ManUre. Tomori is playing almost every game for Milan and thriving, is based in the country we played in tonight, knows the opponents as he's played most of them already, and is young and on the up, so why wouldn't you play him?
And bringing up comments from about 4 months ago? Fucking childish
Yup, and what happens when they're not in form as per your argument... Do they get dropped too?
Anyway, I don't get why we don't choose players that are actually playing and in form, the commentators are bemoaning that lack of playing time for their clubs is having an affect. If they aren't good enough to start a club game, why are they starting an international game?!
Because if we took that approach we'd constantly have a different eleven every England game... International sides need to have a club mentality about them, playing together constantly creates familiarity.
I mean if Charlton / Man City had a different eleven every week, do you think they'd constantly win?
How do you do that when the squad is different every break?
There are players regularly in the squad that dont get to start down to loyalty to certain players who are not playing regular football. Maguire for instance is to Southgate that Gunter was too JJ ! The fans player of the year and one of the most threatening players on the right in the premier league starts at LWB ? I sound like Golfie when talking about England but Southgate has been lucky with the draws in the past tournaments as soon as we face a decent team we lose.
Again... Go and do some goddamn research - You think Iceland was a difficult draw in 2016 do you?
2010 World Cup had we won a Group we should have won, that wasn't difficult either - Am fed up with such lazy arguments
Apologies I forgot Southgate was the manager in 2010 and 16 !!! Its easy to forget that this manager and squad played in the 2010 world cup ! Are u pissed mate ?
Anyway, I don't get why we don't choose players that are actually playing and in form, the commentators are bemoaning that lack of playing time for their clubs is having an affect. If they aren't good enough to start a club game, why are they starting an international game?!
Because if we took that approach we'd constantly have a different eleven every England game... International sides need to have a club mentality about them, playing together constantly creates familiarity.
I mean if Charlton / Man City had a different eleven every week, do you think they'd constantly win?
How do you do that when the squad is different every break?
Then how and why do the other top sides manage it?
We have a long and storied history of picking players based on what club they play for and who they're mates with and not players in form.
Besides, we don't pick the same XI every England game anyway, you seen Saka play left wing back before?
So you think that other countries change their whole starting eleven each and every game?
Seriously have you actually looked into each and every squad before making your comment, or are you just presuming that because a team is winning, then its clearly because the players picked, are in form for their clubs?
Jesus wept, and you fucking well accused me out outlandish comments after the Hartlepool defeat last season
Need to engage your brain a bit more fella
Where did I say you change the entire first XI every game?! Foden, Bellingham, Pope, Dier, Rice, Sterling, Kane all played in 90% plus of their club games this season so far, so you take players like that and compliment them with players in form.
Maguire is shit and has been for a while, and isn't playing for ManUre. Tomori is playing almost every game for Milan and thriving, is based in the country we played in tonight, knows the opponents as he's played most of them already, and is young and on the up, so why wouldn't you play him?
And bringing up comments from about 4 months ago? Fucking childish
Yup, and what happens when they're not in form as per your argument... Do they get dropped too?
Yes, if there's someone else better to play instead, that's kind of how having a squad works you know.
So you think we should choose an XI at the start of the season and stick with them all year even if they're completely shit just because that's the "first XI" in your eyes, and they need to play together? Really good players and teams can chop and change and still win, look at the rotation Pep employs at Man City
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Had we won that Group, we'd have faced Ghana | Uruguay | Netherlands, that should not have been a difficult route to the Final either... The problem with England has been taking advantage of the scenario when its come our way, rather than when we have taken advantage of it
Or Euro 2016 when we lost to Iceland.
Even the back to back Tournaments we lost to Portugal, who were ranked so much lower than us
When Kane gets injured just before the world cup what's Southgate going to do?
I mean if Charlton / Man City had a different eleven every week, do you think they'd constantly win?
How do you do that when the squad is different every break?
Best thing about the next Nations League for us, is it'll give the new Manager a chance to test new players as we should surely make an instant return to League A - I can honestly see us struggling, and failing to get out of the World Cup Group Stages in a few months
Either that or just give it to Steve Holland - I get a feeling that he's the Michael Beale behind Southgate
We have a long and storied history of picking players based on what club they play for and who they're mates with and not players in form.
Besides, we don't pick the same XI every England game anyway, you seen Saka play left wing back before?
Who would you replace him with?
I know who I'd pick without question...
Tactically we were bettered by Italy but my point was the players were hardly performing at their best, excusing one or two.
No chance in World Cup whatsoever.
Had enough of Southgate’s negative approach, it’s fucking boring and we are going backwards, get rid of the palace twat asap.
Seriously have you actually looked into each and every squad before making your comment, or are you just presuming that because a team is winning, then its clearly because the players picked, are in form for their clubs?
Jesus wept, and you fucking well accused me of outlandish comments after the Hartlepool defeat last season
Need to engage your brain a bit more fella
2010 World Cup had we won a Group we should have won, that wasn't difficult either - Am fed up with such lazy arguments
Maguire is shit and has been for a while, and isn't playing for ManUre. Tomori is playing almost every game for Milan and thriving, is based in the country we played in tonight, knows the opponents as he's played most of them already, and is young and on the up, so why wouldn't you play him?
And bringing up comments from about 4 months ago? Fucking childish
So you think we should choose an XI at the start of the season and stick with them all year even if they're completely shit just because that's the "first XI" in your eyes, and they need to play together? Really good players and teams can chop and change and still win, look at the rotation Pep employs at Man City