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  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,590
    The_Organiser said:
    If anyone gets chance to tick of the San Siro before they knock it down I would recommend it. Despite feeling a bit dilapidated inside and even being far from full it retains the wow factor and I can imagine for a big game the atmosphere would be electric. 

    Made the trip in spite of the poor performance on the pitch. If you have a choice though, don’t opt for the top tiers, those spiral staircases were never ending!! 
    I did the stadium tour with my wife when we were out there on our 1st wedding anniversary (we did go for a nice meal in the evening). Surprised at how run down parts of it were, especially the changing rooms, in which my wife wouldn’t let me use the toilets 
  • Jac_52
    Jac_52 Posts: 1,460
    Not sure I can watch the second half. We do look threatening on the break admittedly but there is no real plan other than to defend and nick a goal. Our players are used to playing the way Germany are and we're set up like a lower half premier league team up against a top four team. Our midfield is getting outplayed as we have a man wasted as a third centre back so it's impossible to retain possession and pass through the lines like Germany are doing with ease.

    Having said that Germany haven't really threatened, but that's probably because their front three wouldn't get in our team.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,973
    Maguire and Shaw aren’t playing for united but they are different beasts in an England shirt, Shaw provides much more balance.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,981
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/19926567/german-hooligans-storm-wembley-pub/
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,514
    ValleyGary said:
    Maguire and Shaw aren’t playing for united but they are different beasts in an England shirt, Shaw provides much more balance.
    Shaw has been tremendous.   Maguire solid.
    I'd still like to see 4-3-3
  • Jac_52
    Jac_52 Posts: 1,460
    supaclive said:
    ValleyGary said:
    Maguire and Shaw aren’t playing for united but they are different beasts in an England shirt, Shaw provides much more balance.
    Shaw has been tremendous.   Maguire solid.
    I'd still like to see 4-3-3

    That ball Shaw played for Sterling was unreal. Couldn't believe my eyes.
  • ken_shabby
    ken_shabby Posts: 6,255
    ValleyGary said:
    Maguire and Shaw aren’t playing for united but they are different beasts in an England shirt, Shaw provides much more balance.
    I was surprised by that. They were an easy target to criticise, and Maguire nearly gave away a goal in the opening period, but they settled and look fine - a couple of decent passes to try and open the defence by Shaw especially.
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 2,969
    The way England play out from the back with being caught on the ball and short passes back to the keeper is just like Charlton. So is the lack of shots and the few they had at or near the keeper.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,757
    That was a penalty
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    Couldn't be more blatant
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  • O-Randy-Hunt
    O-Randy-Hunt Posts: 10,631
    Good old Arry
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,757
    ValleyGary said:
    Maguire and Shaw aren’t playing for united but they are different beasts in an England shirt, Shaw provides much more balance.
    Maguire probably looks better in an England shirt because he has two CBs alongside him 
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,567
    Played well so far and he lets himself down hugely there
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    No surprise it was maguire fucking up and then giving the penalty away. 
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,122
    Faffing around at the back always pays off Zzzz
  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,299
    That's where VAR works well. Blatant penalty 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,973
    Ffs all that undone 
  • philcafc
    philcafc Posts: 3,883
    No complaints about that. Clear cut Pen
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,145
    Nick Pope doing the Peter Shilton World Cup semi final penalty saving attempt of waiting till it’s been struck before diving …. Pathetic 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    We're missing Pickford!! - Bloke is constantly shouting and talking to his defence... Best ball playing Goalkeeper we have, so we actually play out from the back rather than hurried clearances.

    Plus... Im sorry Nick but that was a ridiculous attempt to save a penalty. 
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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    Now Bellingham is doing Charlton over the bar shooting
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    Maguire is going to get slaughtered for that and rightly so, shocking pass to give it away, then fouls him. Sunday league defending.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,838
    Absolutely turgid crap.
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,567
    Two slips in a matter of minutes. Do players still wear blades?
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,122
    I blame Sandgaard
  • RoanRedNY
    RoanRedNY Posts: 1,147
    As if Charlton and England isn’t bad enough in the world football lottery, let’s add Harry fu—ing McGuire
  • MrBurns
    MrBurns Posts: 1,285
    Can't wait to see us play in the world cup....
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,757
    Good job Werner has remembered to bring his Premier League shooting boots with him
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    This could be a good game for England if Southgate walks. But he won't. He said blame me after Italy game then made excuses on Sunday so he clearly didn't mean it.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,838
    MrBurns said:
    Can't wait to see us play in the world cup....
    What are the odds on us getting out of the group if we cant score?

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