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Adkins Out? - Match Thread

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  • shirty5 said:

     A committee of ditherers.

    No doubt they'll come to a decision eventually and it will probably be the wrong one!

    What's his old woman doing in there anyway?
    Won't employ a CEO but won't hesitate to get his wife involved in something she knows nothing about...a bit like him...and Roddy for that matter!

    This all boils down to dollar,and severe lack of it as far as our club is concerned.
    Seriously,how was this shower ever going to afford coughing up for the Valley?
    Simple answer. They never were. It was for the birds.

    So there we have it. Another bunch bullsh*tting chancers.

    F**k me! Our club is a joke
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  • Gribbo said:
    ........TS seems to be turning out to be a bit of a Roland
    WTF!!!
    Yeah I know.  It looks a bit wanky reading it back.

    Think I meant my perception of it as it is, is like it's gonna be like it was under RD. 🤷‍♂️
  • I don't think anyone can say anything about Roddy  without actually knowing what he does at the club. He's not the one taking charge on matchday and telling the players to hoof it long to Stockley and not defend very well. Yes the recruitment was lackluster up until the last week or so, but the players have had enough time to gel now. And as someone rightly pointed out, the players definitely are not league 1 relegation quality
    Something I do know is that Roddy made himself pretty unpopular when he first arrived.
    Don’t ask me why, as I have no idea.
    However it would seem that things have settled down somewhat and he has since gained some respect and is much more accepted around the place.
    Not much really but interesting none-the-less.

  • Dazzler21 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
      
    Me coming to terms with the fact Adkins is going to be the Charlton Manager till the end of the season.
    Accurate, but for me it's that we're going to finish somewhere bottom half and that could include relegation. All depends on where the actual issue is. 

    If he does better with his own staff why haven’t they brought them in (at least some of them) as maybe what he is lacking is experienced staff members.
    Maybe that was a subject of last night's discussions?
    I hope it was, as I said in the player rating thread. Something needs to change- I don’t know what, but loosing to Stanley is a new low (even the goal celebrations in the covered end felt not as powerful as they usually are).
    It's not even the results, it's the WAY we're losing. We're losing on merit to the likes of Cheltenham, Lincoln and Accrington

    At least Thomas was here to see it in the flesh, as on TV you don't get a full understanding of how games are panning out
    Problem is, the bloke doesn't understand football at all so it's probably not hitting home how bad it is.
  • Belv said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
      
    Me coming to terms with the fact Adkins is going to be the Charlton Manager till the end of the season.
    Accurate, but for me it's that we're going to finish somewhere bottom half and that could include relegation. All depends on where the actual issue is. 

    If he does better with his own staff why haven’t they brought them in (at least some of them) as maybe what he is lacking is experienced staff members.
    Maybe that was a subject of last night's discussions?
    I hope it was, as I said in the player rating thread. Something needs to change- I don’t know what, but loosing to Stanley is a new low (even the goal celebrations in the covered end felt not as powerful as they usually are).
    It's not even the results, it's the WAY we're losing. We're losing on merit to the likes of Cheltenham, Lincoln and Accrington

    At least Thomas was here to see it in the flesh, as on TV you don't get a full understanding of how games are panning out
    Problem is, the bloke doesn't understand football at all so it's probably not hitting home how bad it is.
    He can see the hoofs up the pitch and lousy defending, and hear the crowd reaction 
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  • Gribbo said:
    Gribbo said:
    ........TS seems to be turning out to be a bit of a Roland
    WTF!!!
    Yeah I know.  It looks a bit wanky reading it back.

    Think I meant my perception of it as it is, is like it's gonna be like it was under RD. 🤷‍♂️
    I think it was a perfectly fair comment.

    What has TS done that RD didn't?

    1. Overseen the worst start/position in the club's history.
    2. Wrote a song.
    3. Played his guitar on the pitch.

    At least RD didn't talk utter rubbish on Twitter and trot out a load of false promises.
  • shirty5 said:

     A committee of ditherers.

    No doubt they'll come to a decision eventually and it will probably be the wrong one!

    What's his old woman doing in there anyway?
    Won't employ a CEO but won't hesitate to get his wife involved in something she knows nothing about...a bit like him...and Roddy for that matter!

    This all boils down to dollar,and severe lack of it as far as our club is concerned.
    Seriously,how was this shower ever going to afford coughing up for the Valley?
    Simple answer. They never were. It was for the birds.

    So there we have it. Another bunch bullsh*tting chancers.

    F**k me! Our club is a joke
    If instead of his partner it was another male colleague from Zynex nobody would bat an eyelid. I’ve no idea what she brings in practice but I think there’s a bit of sexism in the assumption it’s nothing. Also, what’s she supposed to do? Wait in the car?
     Can't even afford an Uber to get her back to the hotel a couple of hours before him.
    More evidence this fella has a serious cash flow issue?

    ;-)


  • Sandgaard, Maloney, Roddy and Gallen will be talking to the players today at Sparrows lane and Nigel Adkins will already know his fate. 

    I would expect a decision later in the day.

    Probably interim manager in JJ will take over with the remit of getting us clear of the bottom 4. As Sunderland will be the nap home in League 1 the pressure won't be to get a result other than to give a cohesive performance and show a collective fighting spirit. 

    In life and football you can have dreams but you have to deal with the here and now.

    And the here and now tells us we are in a relegation spot on merit (or lack of Merit)
  • edited October 2021
    shirty5 said:

     A committee of ditherers.

    No doubt they'll come to a decision eventually and it will probably be the wrong one!

    What's his old woman doing in there anyway?
    Won't employ a CEO but won't hesitate to get his wife involved in something she knows nothing about...a bit like him...and Roddy for that matter!

    This all boils down to dollar,and severe lack of it as far as our club is concerned.
    Seriously,how was this shower ever going to afford coughing up for the Valley?
    Simple answer. They never were. It was for the birds.

    So there we have it. Another bunch bullsh*tting chancers.

    F**k me! Our club is a joke
    If instead of his partner it was another male colleague from Zynex nobody would bat an eyelid. I’ve no idea what she brings in practice but I think there’s a bit of sexism in the assumption it’s nothing. Also, what’s she supposed to do? Wait in the car?
    she could have been putting together a tray of sandwiches 
    She could have been giving the boardroom carpet a Hoover -  she even had time to use a bit of shake n vac.
  • Belv said:
    Gribbo said:
    Gribbo said:
    ........TS seems to be turning out to be a bit of a Roland
    WTF!!!
    Yeah I know.  It looks a bit wanky reading it back.

    Think I meant my perception of it as it is, is like it's gonna be like it was under RD. 🤷‍♂️
    I think it was a perfectly fair comment.

    What has TS done that RD didn't?

    1. Overseen the worst start/position in the club's history.
    2. Wrote a song.
    3. Played his guitar on the pitch.

    At least RD didn't talk utter rubbish on Twitter and trot out a load of false promises.
    It could be worse. TS could have brought in a recruitment guy that agrees worse deals than the ones Katrien did.

    Oh wait a minute....he's done exactly that in Ged Roddy.
  • shirty5 said:

     A committee of ditherers.

    No doubt they'll come to a decision eventually and it will probably be the wrong one!

    What's his old woman doing in there anyway?
    Won't employ a CEO but won't hesitate to get his wife involved in something she knows nothing about...a bit like him...and Roddy for that matter!

    This all boils down to dollar,and severe lack of it as far as our club is concerned.
    Seriously,how was this shower ever going to afford coughing up for the Valley?
    Simple answer. They never were. It was for the birds.

    So there we have it. Another bunch bullsh*tting chancers.

    F**k me! Our club is a joke
    If instead of his partner it was another male colleague from Zynex nobody would bat an eyelid. I’ve no idea what she brings in practice but I think there’s a bit of sexism in the assumption it’s nothing. Also, what’s she supposed to do? Wait in the car?
    she could have been putting together a tray of sandwiches 
    She could have been giving the boardroom carpet a Hoover -  she even had time to use a bit of shake of shake n vac.
    You gotta shake that one twice?
  • edited October 2021
    Gribbo said:
    shirty5 said:

     A committee of ditherers.

    No doubt they'll come to a decision eventually and it will probably be the wrong one!

    What's his old woman doing in there anyway?
    Won't employ a CEO but won't hesitate to get his wife involved in something she knows nothing about...a bit like him...and Roddy for that matter!

    This all boils down to dollar,and severe lack of it as far as our club is concerned.
    Seriously,how was this shower ever going to afford coughing up for the Valley?
    Simple answer. They never were. It was for the birds.

    So there we have it. Another bunch bullsh*tting chancers.

    F**k me! Our club is a joke
    If instead of his partner it was another male colleague from Zynex nobody would bat an eyelid. I’ve no idea what she brings in practice but I think there’s a bit of sexism in the assumption it’s nothing. Also, what’s she supposed to do? Wait in the car?
    she could have been putting together a tray of sandwiches 
    She could have been giving the boardroom carpet a Hoover -  she even had time to use a bit of shake of shake n vac.
    You gotta shake that one twice?
    You seen the state of that carpet?it’s still got Southall’s hair cuttings all over the place. Not to mention the crumbs from Sue Parkes plate.
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  • edited October 2021
    Belv said:
    Gribbo said:
    Gribbo said:
    ........TS seems to be turning out to be a bit of a Roland
    WTF!!!
    Yeah I know.  It looks a bit wanky reading it back.

    Think I meant my perception of it as it is, is like it's gonna be like it was under RD. 🤷‍♂️
    I think it was a perfectly fair comment.

    What has TS done that RD didn't?

    1. Overseen the worst start/position in the club's history.
    2. Wrote a song. *
    3. Played his guitar on the pitch.

    At least RD didn't talk utter rubbish on Twitter and trot out a load of false promises.

    * that he was happy to put as the players walk out music replacing a classic (if it wasn’t for the fans he would still be playing that when the players came out)
  • Uboat said:
    shirty5 said:

    This has been retweeted by the club, which seems odd. 
     I have not looked but Is it not the pardody CAFC?
  • Uboat said:
    shirty5 said:

    This has been retweeted by the club, which seems odd. 

    Edit. No it hasn’t. 
    The last tweet the club sent out was a load of Waffle from Adkins, last night at 25 to 11
  • Uboat said:
    shirty5 said:

    This has been retweeted by the club, which seems odd. 
     I have not looked but Is it not the pardody CAFC?
    Yes it is, but the parody is called Charlton Athletic FC, which initially threw me. 
  • Dazzler21 said:
    If I was Sandgaard I'd urgently talk to Pearce, a senior pro who's relatively untarnished by this season, to ask him what's gone wrong. He needs to get another voice to that of Adkins or Roddy, and Jacko and Euell are too involved.
     If you want to uncover the truth of what people believe to be MOST wrong with the footbaling side of things, you could perform a Pain Point/Positives uncovering exercise. It's clear it's more than just Adkins has become a crap manager... It's likely a few issues combining to create a bigger issue (like not having a CEO to manage the company and football club).

    Something like this:

    1. Identify an independent consultant to conduct the exercise.
    2. Identify Attendees
    3. Perform 1:1 interviews with each attendee. In the interviews you'd look to elicit & capture pain points and positives from each interviewee
    4. Collate and anonymise the results (highlight trends etc)
    5. Conduct a workshop to feedback the uncovered results. 
    6. Task each attendee with marking 3-5 items as their most important pain/positive (anonymously again)
    7. Share the results and act accordingly to correct or enforce what they expose

    Continuing from point 7, it would then be up to Thomas to either continue to utilise the consultant to plan and implement changes or Implement a CEO to do so. - this could end up with a full restructure or it could be looking to manage roles better to ensure people aren't intervening where they shouldn't be.

    The outcome would always be to plan and act swiftly. 

    Personally I'd probably have the following as attendees:

    Thomas Sandgaard - Obvs reasons
    Ged Roddy - Obvs reasons
    Steve Gallen - Obvs reasons
    Nigel Adkins - Obv reasons
    Tracey Leaburn - She has a better insight to the full squad, players young and old and the challenges they have going on.
    Johnnie Jackson - His 11 year tenure would be very important to this.
    Club Captain - Who is our actual captain?

    Football just doesn't work like that. (nor does much else for that matter!).

    Hire a young coach / manager with some bright ideas on a short term contract and let him get on with it. 
    If that doesn't work out after three or four months - fire him.
    Repeat until you get lucky and you find yourself pushing for the premier league!

    There's no other way to do it!
  • I am staggered he is still the manager. It's telling me that TS is clueless and/or he has no cash.

    Very worrying and even scumbag RD did not sink us this low.

    Division 2 or worse await us.
  • I know some people are dead against it but the club seriously have to think about bringing Curbishley back into the fold in some capacity, we have nobody in the club with his footballing brains, nobody comes close.

    It'll be the Charlton TV dream team: Curbs, Scottie and Stevie Brown.

    They won't let you down. 


  • The only logical thing is to shift Adkins now, but I don't have any sure feeling they will. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Jackson now though. People are saying about whether or not to sweep the whole lot of them out, but I think we might not have a choice in that regard; Jackson wanted the job last time, passed his one game audition and was overlooked for Adkins, who has gone on to fail pretty spectacularly. At this point really you either give him the job or lose him, as I'm not sure he's going to be happy to assist yet another manager while being overlooked again. I'd be surprised if he stuck around after that
  • BigDiddy said:
    I am staggered he is still the manager. It's telling me that TS is clueless and/or he has no cash.

    Very worrying and even scumbag RD did not sink us this low.

    Division 2 or worse await us.

    Sounds like from earlier posts on this thread, that it's being done, and done in the right way
  • shirty5 said:

     A committee of ditherers.

    No doubt they'll come to a decision eventually and it will probably be the wrong one!

    What's his old woman doing in there anyway?
    Won't employ a CEO but won't hesitate to get his wife involved in something she knows nothing about...a bit like him...and Roddy for that matter!

    This all boils down to dollar,and severe lack of it as far as our club is concerned.
    Seriously,how was this shower ever going to afford coughing up for the Valley?
    Simple answer. They never were. It was for the birds.

    So there we have it. Another bunch bullsh*tting chancers.

    F**k me! Our club is a joke

    What was the point then if  nothing is going to happen...
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