Lowery is refusing to even negotiate on a new contract isn't he? For those who don't follow players from other clubs, what type of midfielder is he, won't pass the height test will he?
Midfield playmaker, more assists than goals. Not sure why we wouldn’t have enquired about him whilst talking to Crewe about Kirk? Unless we have, it’s a rumour I’ll take it.
The rumour is that Gallen is in Crewe again, could be he got the train to MK, fell asleep and ended up in Crewe by accident
Implausible conjecture AND a train reference in the rumour thread.
Lowery is refusing to even negotiate on a new contract isn't he? For those who don't follow players from other clubs, what type of midfielder is he, won't pass the height test will he?
He is tiny, when I saw him he reminded me of David Perkins, which is a good thing IMO. I can't think of a Charlton player I would say he was like. Maybe the Morgan we have seen glimpses of?
He isn't as combative as a Jones, Cullen or Kashi but very tidy and maybe a little more inventive. Maybe a bit like the Ben Watson that played against us, not the one that played for us!
In recent years we've gotten into a culture of not trusting smaller or slighter midfielders, both from senior staff and from fans. It does my absolute head in. 'Too lightweight' I keep hearing. Yeah coz we've seen so many huge bastards who've worked bloody wonders in there right
Lowery is refusing to even negotiate on a new contract isn't he? For those who don't follow players from other clubs, what type of midfielder is he, won't pass the height test will he?
Midfield playmaker, more assists than goals. Not sure why we wouldn’t have enquired about him whilst talking to Crewe about Kirk? Unless we have, it’s a rumour I’ll take it.
The rumour is that Gallen is in Crewe again, could be he got the train to MK, fell asleep and ended up in Crewe by accident
Or....maybe......just maybe.....they are working on things behind the scenes and keeping the cards close to there chest...
Ah yes, just like throughout the summer where we've been overloaded with signings that came without even a rumour.
Do we need to know as fans? We have no right to that.
Id much rather they just got on with it instead of flapping there gums about this and that.
Anyway...even if there was rumour to be shared on here, people are mostly avoiding it because if it doesnt come off they get beasted.
Just support the players we have for now instead of moaning.
That's not really the point.
The point is that we are 5/6 players short and except the Henderson rumour we have little else. How often have we signed a player totally out of the blue with not one rumour of interest before hand? It can't be many and certainly with the amount of players we need to challenge, I would expect more.
Crewe Alex manager Dave Artell is hoping for a breakthrough in Tommy Lowery’s contract talks but admits to frustration so far. The 23-year-old midfielder is entering the final year of his current deal and hasn’t been selected for pre-season games because he hasn't signed the new contract.
Artell says Lowery has continued to train professionally but there is a disagreement about elements of the offer.
Speaking at this week’s meet-the-fans event at the club, the manager said: “We made an offer to Tom probably ten or 12 weeks ago. He wanted something in the contract, we couldn’t agree to what he asked for. The agent believes that is correct but we have proved through facts from previous transfers out of League One midfielders that it is not the case.”
The manager revealed that he and assistant manager Kenny Lunt had lengthy talks with the midfielder on Monday but the stalemate remains.
Artell says no player is bigger than the club and it’s up to Lowery and his representative to make the next move. He says he fundamentally disagrees with the position taken by the player and his agent.
However, he added: “I am hopeful. Tom is a great bloke. Quite a lot of us call him 'The Smiler' because he is such a bubbly character and I am hopeful there will be an amicable and sensible resolution.
Or....maybe......just maybe.....they are working on things behind the scenes and keeping the cards close to there chest...
Ah yes, just like throughout the summer where we've been overloaded with signings that came without even a rumour.
Do we need to know as fans? We have no right to that.
Id much rather they just got on with it instead of flapping there gums about this and that.
Anyway...even if there was rumour to be shared on here, people are mostly avoiding it because if it doesnt come off they get beasted.
Just support the players we have for now instead of moaning.
That's not really the point.
The point is that we are 5/6 players short and except the Henderson rumour we have little else. How often have we signed a player totally out of the blue with not one rumour of interest before hand? It can't be many and certainly with the amount of players we need to challenge, I would expect more.
I don't think there was any mention of Clare until the team talk article
Crewe Alex manager Dave Artell is hoping for a breakthrough in Tommy Lowery’s contract talks but admits to frustration so far. The 23-year-old midfielder is entering the final year of his current deal and hasn’t been selected for pre-season games because he hasn't signed the new contract.
Artell says Lowery has continued to train professionally but there is a disagreement about elements of the offer.
Speaking at this week’s meet-the-fans event at the club, the manager said: “We made an offer to Tom probably ten or 12 weeks ago. He wanted something in the contract, we couldn’t agree to what he asked for. The agent believes that is correct but we have proved through facts from previous transfers out of League One midfielders that it is not the case.”
The manager revealed that he and assistant manager Kenny Lunt had lengthy talks with the midfielder on Monday but the stalemate remains.
Artell says no player is bigger than the club and it’s up to Lowery and his representative to make the next move. He says he fundamentally disagrees with the position taken by the player and his agent.
However, he added: “I am hopeful. Tom is a great bloke. Quite a lot of us call him 'The Smiler' because he is such a bubbly character and I am hopeful there will be an amicable and sensible resolution.
He has the same agent as Joe Gomez. The request is obviously for a release clause that they can't agree on, why else would they provide stats for midfielders transfered out of league 1?
Or....maybe......just maybe.....they are working on things behind the scenes and keeping the cards close to there chest...
Ah yes, just like throughout the summer where we've been overloaded with signings that came without even a rumour.
Do we need to know as fans? We have no right to that.
Id much rather they just got on with it instead of flapping there gums about this and that.
Anyway...even if there was rumour to be shared on here, people are mostly avoiding it because if it doesnt come off they get beasted.
Just support the players we have for now instead of moaning.
That's not really the point.
The point is that we are 5/6 players short and except the Henderson rumour we have little else. How often have we signed a player totally out of the blue with not one rumour of interest before hand? It can't be many and certainly with the amount of players we need to challenge, I would expect more.
I don't think there was any mention of Clare until the team talk article
The only signing we had much talk about more than 24-48 hours before signing was Stockley. Technically Kirk too but I believe we were already in talks when the chat actually started.
Lowery is refusing to even negotiate on a new contract isn't he? For those who don't follow players from other clubs, what type of midfielder is he, won't pass the height test will he?
Midfield playmaker, more assists than goals. Not sure why we wouldn’t have enquired about him whilst talking to Crewe about Kirk? Unless we have, it’s a rumour I’ll take it.
The rumour is that Gallen is in Crewe again, could be he got the train to MK, fell asleep and ended up in Crewe by accident
🎼 Oh Mr Porter what shall I do? I wanted to go to Milton Keynes but here I am in Crewe. Send me back to London as quickly as you can. Oh Mr Porter what a silly chap I am. 🎼
Just over 2 weeks of the window left. We need 5-6 players. In our recruitment staff we trust ? Well , actually, no.
I think we maybe need one more than that to get ourselves in the position we need to be:
Striker to compete with Stockley Morgan replacement (Morgan becomes squad player) Clare replacement (Clare becomes squad player) New left back Additional centre back option Reserve keeper to put pressure on the new bloke
Potentially also be nice to get squad options to compete with DJ….
So 6-7…. We have been told to be patient and they will come. Guess we will find out in the next two weeks.
We're working hard but come deadline day we just won't be able to get them over the line. Things have gone sour very quickly. Yes TS possibly saved our bacon & continues to fund the club but we're going nowhere.
Behave yourself. If you think having a stable, viable football club that caters to its fans needs and actually responds to feedback while spending millions of pounds on getting players in is things 'going sour' then frankly you don't deserve to have your club saved. Bloody hell, it was this time last year we weren't even sure if we were going to have a club anymore and now two games into the new season with the transfer window still open everything has gone to shit and we're 'going nowhere'. The entitlement of fans this season is astonishing
Lowery is refusing to even negotiate on a new contract isn't he? For those who don't follow players from other clubs, what type of midfielder is he, won't pass the height test will he?
Midfield playmaker, more assists than goals. Not sure why we wouldn’t have enquired about him whilst talking to Crewe about Kirk? Unless we have, it’s a rumour I’ll take it.
The rumour is that Gallen is in Crewe again, could be he got the train to MK, fell asleep and ended up in Crewe by accident
He could travel down with them to Cherwell Valley services then thumb a lift to MK. It's not far.......
Or....maybe......just maybe.....they are working on things behind the scenes and keeping the cards close to there chest...
Ah yes, just like throughout the summer where we've been overloaded with signings that came without even a rumour.
Do we need to know as fans? We have no right to that.
Id much rather they just got on with it instead of flapping there gums about this and that.
Anyway...even if there was rumour to be shared on here, people are mostly avoiding it because if it doesnt come off they get beasted.
Just support the players we have for now instead of moaning.
That's not really the point.
The point is that we are 5/6 players short and except the Henderson rumour we have little else. How often have we signed a player totally out of the blue with not one rumour of interest before hand? It can't be many and certainly with the amount of players we need to challenge, I would expect more.
I don't think there was any mention of Clare until the team talk article
Lowery is refusing to even negotiate on a new contract isn't he? For those who don't follow players from other clubs, what type of midfielder is he, won't pass the height test will he?
Midfield playmaker, more assists than goals. Not sure why we wouldn’t have enquired about him whilst talking to Crewe about Kirk? Unless we have, it’s a rumour I’ll take it.
The rumour is that Gallen is in Crewe again, could be he got the train to MK, fell asleep and ended up in Crewe by accident
🎼 Oh Mr Porter what shall I do, I wanted to go to Milton Keynes but here I am in Crewe? Send me back to London as quickly as you can. Oh Mr Porter what a silly chap I am. 🎼
Obviously getting these deals done is not really simple, however , I think this is a perfectly reasonable tweet and thought process. The top 4 players are all playing in League 1 and will all be on lower wages than we should be able to afford bearing in mind 3 of them play in front of crowds of 5k or less. The loan player will be a Prem loan. Maybe they want to go to the Championship but money there seems even tighter than our League and as we reach the end of the window , its reasonable to assume that prices will fall a bit from those quoted above.
None of us are privy to what Thomas's financial limitations are but I think the basic premise above is a fair one that with the players quoted, all of whom are likely to be available and on 'relatively' low wages we would be building a team for the next 3-4 years and we would have a much greater chance of promotion which brings a stronger financial model.
Trouble is he criticised TS for his "ridiculous claims" and begins this bit of fun with "it's really simple".
Well picking a list of realistic targets is simple - but never said getting the deals done would.
The claims from TS we’re ridiculous and are proving so, his raising of expectations is a large reason why a big section of the fans are unhappy. That can’t be disputed.
and to be fair I didn’t Criticise him in the post only on here even though. Some people seem to think you can’t be a TS supporter but still disagree with things he does.
It absolutely can. I really don't know how people somehow took what was clearly an extravagant and excitable person being extravagant and excitable as some sort of gospel truth or policy pledge.
If it is "ridiculous" now, it was equally ridiculous then, and if this is true then more fool anyone who took it seriously and now feels daft. Reality is we are in League One in a post-Covid reality and competing against clubs like Sunderland, Wigan and Ipswich (Just as examples) who can at least match us in the market and probably offer more.
If Sandgaard was a Hulyer or Southall type I would agree. Sandgaard is CEO of Zynex Inc. I thought you could believe a man of that standing. I know better now, but I don't feel daft. I won't be so trusting again, which is a pity.
Lowery is refusing to even negotiate on a new contract isn't he? For those who don't follow players from other clubs, what type of midfielder is he, won't pass the height test will he?
Midfield playmaker, more assists than goals. Not sure why we wouldn’t have enquired about him whilst talking to Crewe about Kirk? Unless we have, it’s a rumour I’ll take it.
The rumour is that Gallen is in Crewe again, could be he got the train to MK, fell asleep and ended up in Crewe by accident
🎼 Oh Mr Porter what shall I do? I wanted to go to Milton Keynes but here I am in Crewe. Send me back to London as quickly as you can. Oh Mr Porter what a silly chap I am. 🎼
Or....maybe......just maybe.....they are working on things behind the scenes and keeping the cards close to there chest...
Ah yes, just like throughout the summer where we've been overloaded with signings that came without even a rumour.
Do we need to know as fans? We have no right to that.
Id much rather they just got on with it instead of flapping there gums about this and that.
Anyway...even if there was rumour to be shared on here, people are mostly avoiding it because if it doesnt come off they get beasted.
Just support the players we have for now instead of moaning.
That's not really the point.
The point is that we are 5/6 players short and except the Henderson rumour we have little else. How often have we signed a player totally out of the blue with not one rumour of interest before hand? It can't be many and certainly with the amount of players we need to challenge, I would expect more.
I don't think there was any mention of Clare until the team talk article
Or....maybe......just maybe.....they are working on things behind the scenes and keeping the cards close to there chest...
Ah yes, just like throughout the summer where we've been overloaded with signings that came without even a rumour.
Do we need to know as fans? We have no right to that.
Id much rather they just got on with it instead of flapping there gums about this and that.
Anyway...even if there was rumour to be shared on here, people are mostly avoiding it because if it doesnt come off they get beasted.
Just support the players we have for now instead of moaning.
That's not really the point.
The point is that we are 5/6 players short and except the Henderson rumour we have little else. How often have we signed a player totally out of the blue with not one rumour of interest before hand? It can't be many and certainly with the amount of players we need to challenge, I would expect more.
I don't think there was any mention of Clare until the team talk article
Or....maybe......just maybe.....they are working on things behind the scenes and keeping the cards close to there chest...
Ah yes, just like throughout the summer where we've been overloaded with signings that came without even a rumour.
Do we need to know as fans? We have no right to that.
Id much rather they just got on with it instead of flapping there gums about this and that.
Anyway...even if there was rumour to be shared on here, people are mostly avoiding it because if it doesnt come off they get beasted.
Just support the players we have for now instead of moaning.
That's not really the point.
The point is that we are 5/6 players short and except the Henderson rumour we have little else. How often have we signed a player totally out of the blue with not one rumour of interest before hand? It can't be many and certainly with the amount of players we need to challenge, I would expect more.
I don't think there was any mention of Clare until the team talk article
Or....maybe......just maybe.....they are working on things behind the scenes and keeping the cards close to there chest...
Ah yes, just like throughout the summer where we've been overloaded with signings that came without even a rumour.
Do we need to know as fans? We have no right to that.
Id much rather they just got on with it instead of flapping there gums about this and that.
Anyway...even if there was rumour to be shared on here, people are mostly avoiding it because if it doesnt come off they get beasted.
Just support the players we have for now instead of moaning.
That's not really the point.
The point is that we are 5/6 players short and except the Henderson rumour we have little else. How often have we signed a player totally out of the blue with not one rumour of interest before hand? It can't be many and certainly with the amount of players we need to challenge, I would expect more.
I don't think there was any mention of Clare until the team talk article
So it confirmed he was rumoured before he was signed then...
Less than 24 hours before.
There wasn't any ITK whispers at all. Which was my point. I honestly can't think of any signing that the first anyone heard of it was on the official site/socials. Maybe deadline day when other outlets can't cover everything?
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He isn't as combative as a Jones, Cullen or Kashi but very tidy and maybe a little more inventive. Maybe a bit like the Ben Watson that played against us, not the one that played for us!
Id much rather they just got on with it instead of flapping there gums about this and that.
Anyway...even if there was rumour to be shared on here, people are mostly avoiding it because if it doesnt come off they get beasted.
Just support the players we have for now instead of moaning.
The point is that we are 5/6 players short and except the Henderson rumour we have little else. How often have we signed a player totally out of the blue with not one rumour of interest before hand? It can't be many and certainly with the amount of players we need to challenge, I would expect more.
From 3rd August:
Crewe Alex manager Dave Artell is hoping for a breakthrough in Tommy Lowery’s contract talks but admits to frustration so far.
The 23-year-old midfielder is entering the final year of his current deal and hasn’t been selected for pre-season games because he hasn't signed the new contract.
Artell says Lowery has continued to train professionally but there is a disagreement about elements of the offer.
Speaking at this week’s meet-the-fans event at the club, the manager said: “We made an offer to Tom probably ten or 12 weeks ago. He wanted something in the contract, we couldn’t agree to what he asked for. The agent believes that is correct but we have proved through facts from previous transfers out of League One midfielders that it is not the case.”
The manager revealed that he and assistant manager Kenny Lunt had lengthy talks with the midfielder on Monday but the stalemate remains.
Artell says no player is bigger than the club and it’s up to Lowery and his representative to make the next move. He says he fundamentally disagrees with the position taken by the player and his agent.
However, he added: “I am hopeful. Tom is a great bloke. Quite a lot of us call him 'The Smiler' because he is such a bubbly character and I am hopeful there will be an amicable and sensible resolution.
I wanted to go to Milton Keynes but here I am in Crewe.
Send me back to London as quickly as you can.
Oh Mr Porter what a silly chap I am. 🎼
https://the72.co.uk/242656/charlton-athletic-poised-to-sign-sean-clare-from-oxford-united/
Sandgaard is CEO of Zynex Inc.
I thought you could believe a man of that standing.
I know better now, but I don't feel daft.
I won't be so trusting again, which is a pity.
"Charlton Athletic are set to win the race to sign Sean Clare from Oxford United, as per a report by TEAMtalk."
There wasn't any ITK whispers at all. Which was my point. I honestly can't think of any signing that the first anyone heard of it was on the official site/socials. Maybe deadline day when other outlets can't cover everything?