Think window is going very similar to the January window.
The fans can clearly see where we need players in, the management and recruitment team are the only ones that don't.
Everyone knew we needed a CB in that window, just like everyone knows we need a LB, AM, ST and 3 others in this one.
What we need and what Tommy is prepared to pay for now seem to be widely apart. Adkins gone by Xmas?
I dont understand this. We have paid fees for 2 players. We were set to sign the player from wigan but he failed a medical, he would not have come cheap in terms of wages and a signing on fee. Famewo might only be a loan but most premier league teams charge loan fee’s? We’ve already agreed a fee to make the deal permanent.
without fully understand what Tommy has paid and what else we have lined up, makes this comment ridiculous
Stockley, Clare, DJ, Kirk and Schwartz must be close to 1.5m in transfer fees in 2021. I bet there's not many league one clubs who have spent more in that time.
I meant this season, not realising that Clare cost a transfer fee. But your list does aid my point, Tommy has spent money on the squad and for other posters to question Tommy’s outlay is pathetic. We could always ask southall to come back with his supa dupa phone
Maybe for all of his grinning and positivity, Adkins isn’t up to it .
50% win rate over the 10 games last season. We have started against sheff wed and Oxford! We have the same points as ipswich who have played moreCombe and burton. But yet Adkins is now getting written off?? That comment is as ridiculous as calling out Tommy for not spending enough cash.
Remind me how we did against Burton last year....?
Remind me who a lot of people on here think will run away with the league? Last year is irrelevant, how did we do against the massives.....they were a league above, which proves the point that a 0-0 against them isnt a bad result. Are you saying that Burton and Morecombe is a tougher start than Sheff w and Oxford?
For us probably. We don't generally do well against newly promoted teams & Burton, as I alluded to in my first post, were hard to beat last season.
As they say.......there are no easy games & I doubt we would have done any better against any 2 teams you would care to mention.
So we all agree we need a decent attacking left back / LWB
The top assister in the position in L2 last season was Exeter's 20 year old left back Jack Sparkes. He's pretty strong, quite tricky and has a lovely left foot. Decent crossing ability - a smattering of goals in there too. Young. He fits the bill....only problem is he was stretchered off yesterday with a suspected broken collar bone and I have no idea how quickly they heal!
Looks like a decent fit for us though as, until yesterday, he hadn't missed much action and gets a good number of crosses in.
Go get him MR Gallen
Saw the league 1 goals earlier & Wimbledon seem to have picked up a good left sided player from Watford. Scored their 3rd (which was the equaliser) but I keep being told that Premier League loanees only join on transfer deadline day 🤔.
So we all agree we need a decent attacking left back / LWB
The top assister in the position in L2 last season was Exeter's 20 year old left back Jack Sparkes. He's pretty strong, quite tricky and has a lovely left foot. Decent crossing ability - a smattering of goals in there too. Young. He fits the bill....only problem is he was stretchered off yesterday with a suspected broken collar bone and I have no idea how quickly they heal!
Looks like a decent fit for us though as, until yesterday, he hadn't missed much action and gets a good number of crosses in.
Go get him MR Gallen
I assume with all these really class players Exeter had last season they ran away with the 4th divison?
They finished 3 points off the playoffs, so maybe just needed to keep the squad together and make a few good signings? Our season was similar and wasn’t that what you said we needed (rather than a total rebuild)?
So we all agree we need a decent attacking left back / LWB
The top assister in the position in L2 last season was Exeter's 20 year old left back Jack Sparkes. He's pretty strong, quite tricky and has a lovely left foot. Decent crossing ability - a smattering of goals in there too. Young. He fits the bill....only problem is he was stretchered off yesterday with a suspected broken collar bone and I have no idea how quickly they heal!
Looks like a decent fit for us though as, until yesterday, he hadn't missed much action and gets a good number of crosses in.
Go get him MR Gallen
Have you got the right player? Only played left back last season between November and January when Page was injured. Missed almost a whole season with a knee injury and only has 6 assists in his career?
Played the rest of the games either wide midfield or as a sub for Page.
So we all agree we need a decent attacking left back / LWB
The top assister in the position in L2 last season was Exeter's 20 year old left back Jack Sparkes. He's pretty strong, quite tricky and has a lovely left foot. Decent crossing ability - a smattering of goals in there too. Young. He fits the bill....only problem is he was stretchered off yesterday with a suspected broken collar bone and I have no idea how quickly they heal!
Looks like a decent fit for us though as, until yesterday, he hadn't missed much action and gets a good number of crosses in.
Go get him MR Gallen
I assume with all these really class players Exeter had last season they ran away with the 4th divison?
They finished 3 points off the playoffs, so maybe just needed to keep the squad together and make a few good signings? Our season was similar and wasn’t that what you said we needed (rather than a total rebuild)?
Fair point but at the same time I don't think many Reading fans would have been excited about signing any of our players last summer, which is the fair comparison.
So we all agree we need a decent attacking left back / LWB
The top assister in the position in L2 last season was Exeter's 20 year old left back Jack Sparkes. He's pretty strong, quite tricky and has a lovely left foot. Decent crossing ability - a smattering of goals in there too. Young. He fits the bill....only problem is he was stretchered off yesterday with a suspected broken collar bone and I have no idea how quickly they heal!
Looks like a decent fit for us though as, until yesterday, he hadn't missed much action and gets a good number of crosses in.
Go get him MR Gallen
I assume with all these really class players Exeter had last season they ran away with the 4th divison?
They finished 3 points off the playoffs, so maybe just needed to keep the squad together and make a few good signings? Our season was similar and wasn’t that what you said we needed (rather than a total rebuild)?
Fair point but at the same time I don't think many Reading fans would have been excited about signing any of our players last summer, which is the fair comparison.
This is the 3rd Exeter player mentioned.
Their fans might not be excited but that doesn’t mean there weren’t one or two players who could make the step up.
So we all agree we need a decent attacking left back / LWB
The top assister in the position in L2 last season was Exeter's 20 year old left back Jack Sparkes. He's pretty strong, quite tricky and has a lovely left foot. Decent crossing ability - a smattering of goals in there too. Young. He fits the bill....only problem is he was stretchered off yesterday with a suspected broken collar bone and I have no idea how quickly they heal!
Looks like a decent fit for us though as, until yesterday, he hadn't missed much action and gets a good number of crosses in.
Go get him MR Gallen
I assume with all these really class players Exeter had last season they ran away with the 4th divison?
They finished 3 points off the playoffs, so maybe just needed to keep the squad together and make a few good signings? Our season was similar and wasn’t that what you said we needed (rather than a total rebuild)?
Fair point but at the same time I don't think many Reading fans would have been excited about signing any of our players last summer, which is the fair comparison.
This is the 3rd Exeter player mentioned.
We finished outside the League One playoffs on goal difference yet Aneke went to Birmingham, Maatsen went to Coventry and Millar went to FC Basel
Three Charlton players who have moved up to a higher division so why is it unrealistic for a similar situation at Exeter?
So we all agree we need a decent attacking left back / LWB
The top assister in the position in L2 last season was Exeter's 20 year old left back Jack Sparkes. He's pretty strong, quite tricky and has a lovely left foot. Decent crossing ability - a smattering of goals in there too. Young. He fits the bill....only problem is he was stretchered off yesterday with a suspected broken collar bone and I have no idea how quickly they heal!
Looks like a decent fit for us though as, until yesterday, he hadn't missed much action and gets a good number of crosses in.
Go get him MR Gallen
I assume with all these really class players Exeter had last season they ran away with the 4th divison?
They finished 3 points off the playoffs, so maybe just needed to keep the squad together and make a few good signings? Our season was similar and wasn’t that what you said we needed (rather than a total rebuild)?
Fair point but at the same time I don't think many Reading fans would have been excited about signing any of our players last summer, which is the fair comparison.
This is the 3rd Exeter player mentioned.
We finished outside the League One playoffs on goal difference yet Aneke went to Birmingham, Maatsen went to Coventry and Millar went to FC Basel
Three Charlton players who have moved up to a higher division so why is it unrealistic for a similar situation at Exeter?
Because 2 Exeter players have already gone to the championship, the comparison would be if ours went to the prem.
I have no idea how good Exeters players are/were but it's the hypocrisy, from more than a few people, that our players were all "dog shit" and Exeters are better.
I don't think Basel nor a championship club would have bought Millar or Maatsen on their performances for us, it's more their pedigree. But that's a different point all together.
Get a left back in (Omole from Spurs?) and a decent wing player (Sims still out there?) as well as getting Gilbey and Purrington back in the squad and things start to look a lot better.
Five points dropped which after two games might not be considered a disaster, but as we know from last season very small margins can make a massive difference. We need to do much much better to even have a sniff of promotion.
Think window is going very similar to the January window.
The fans can clearly see where we need players in, the management and recruitment team are the only ones that don't.
Everyone knew we needed a CB in that window, just like everyone knows we need a LB, AM, ST and 3 others in this one.
What we need and what Tommy is prepared to pay for now seem to be widely apart. Adkins gone by Xmas?
I dont understand this. We have paid fees for 2 players. We were set to sign the player from wigan but he failed a medical, he would not have come cheap in terms of wages and a signing on fee. Famewo might only be a loan but most premier league teams charge loan fee’s? We’ve already agreed a fee to make the deal permanent.
without fully understand what Tommy has paid and what else we have lined up, makes this comment ridiculous
Stockley, Clare, DJ, Kirk and Schwartz must be close to 1.5m in transfer fees in 2021. I bet there's not many league one clubs who have spent more in that time.
I meant this season, not realising that Clare cost a transfer fee. But your list does aid my point, Tommy has spent money on the squad and for other posters to question Tommy’s outlay is pathetic. We could always ask southall to come back with his supa dupa phone
Maybe for all of his grinning and positivity, Adkins isn’t up to it .
Strange ain't it, when things don't go just so, blame the manager, he is just an east target and it seems first in line for any abuse, but this goes a lot deeper than Nige, he wants it as much as the next man but can only work with the tools at his disposal, so recruitment team, step up and try to give him something to work with if possible, I know we are only 2 games in but we can't slip too far behind.
Five points dropped which after two games might not be considered a disaster, but as we know from last season very small margins can make a massive difference. We need to do much much better to even have a sniff of promotion.
True, but as Blackpool showed, getting the right team together, playing the way you want, with a consistent core 11 that isn't ravaged by injury or messed around with new formations, is key. You need to build and keep momentum, but as it stands it all rests on who we bring in and then really playing an imposing style of football (I have been disappointed as I thought we would have been a much more aggressive pressing unit from the off.)
Five points dropped which after two games might not be considered a disaster, but as we know from last season very small margins can make a massive difference. We need to do much much better to even have a sniff of promotion.
Absolutely. Extrapolating those results through the season, we’ll have 23 points (definite relegation) and Sunderland will have 138 points.
Five points dropped which after two games might not be considered a disaster, but as we know from last season very small margins can make a massive difference. We need to do much much better to even have a sniff of promotion.
Absolutely. Extrapolating those results through the season, we’ll have 23 points (definite relegation) and Sunderland will have 138 points.
Ah sarcasm. My point is we failed to get top six by one goal last season. Every point every goal matters. The top four currently are all tipped to be top six contenders and were already five points adrift. Not important ? Wouldnt you rather they being five points behind us. We’ve got off to a very indifferent start and not looking good at all. Still very salvageable but five players have to come in and click. Dead easy. Our pre season has be awful from a management perspective
So we all agree we need a decent attacking left back / LWB
The top assister in the position in L2 last season was Exeter's 20 year old left back Jack Sparkes. He's pretty strong, quite tricky and has a lovely left foot. Decent crossing ability - a smattering of goals in there too. Young. He fits the bill....only problem is he was stretchered off yesterday with a suspected broken collar bone and I have no idea how quickly they heal!
Looks like a decent fit for us though as, until yesterday, he hadn't missed much action and gets a good number of crosses in.
Go get him MR Gallen
I assume with all these really class players Exeter had last season they ran away with the 4th divison?
They finished 3 points off the playoffs, so maybe just needed to keep the squad together and make a few good signings? Our season was similar and wasn’t that what you said we needed (rather than a total rebuild)?
Fair point but at the same time I don't think many Reading fans would have been excited about signing any of our players last summer, which is the fair comparison.
This is the 3rd Exeter player mentioned.
The difference being all of the Exeter players mentioned are young and top prospects from their well-respected academy.
If we had a young academy player playing every week in men’s football, I’m sure Reading fans would be more than happy to take them off us.
So we all agree we need a decent attacking left back / LWB
The top assister in the position in L2 last season was Exeter's 20 year old left back Jack Sparkes. He's pretty strong, quite tricky and has a lovely left foot. Decent crossing ability - a smattering of goals in there too. Young. He fits the bill....only problem is he was stretchered off yesterday with a suspected broken collar bone and I have no idea how quickly they heal!
Looks like a decent fit for us though as, until yesterday, he hadn't missed much action and gets a good number of crosses in.
Go get him MR Gallen
I assume with all these really class players Exeter had last season they ran away with the 4th divison?
They finished 3 points off the playoffs, so maybe just needed to keep the squad together and make a few good signings? Our season was similar and wasn’t that what you said we needed (rather than a total rebuild)?
Fair point but at the same time I don't think many Reading fans would have been excited about signing any of our players last summer, which is the fair comparison.
This is the 3rd Exeter player mentioned.
The difference being all of the Exeter players mentioned are young and top prospects from their well-respected academy.
If we had a young academy player playing every week in men’s football, I’m sure Reading fans would be more than happy to take them off us.
Williams isn't any of that but never mind. And this latest one suggested appears to have spent most of last season as back up to Lewis Page and filling in where needed.
So we all agree we need a decent attacking left back / LWB
The top assister in the position in L2 last season was Exeter's 20 year old left back Jack Sparkes. He's pretty strong, quite tricky and has a lovely left foot. Decent crossing ability - a smattering of goals in there too. Young. He fits the bill....only problem is he was stretchered off yesterday with a suspected broken collar bone and I have no idea how quickly they heal!
Looks like a decent fit for us though as, until yesterday, he hadn't missed much action and gets a good number of crosses in.
Go get him MR Gallen
I assume with all these really class players Exeter had last season they ran away with the 4th divison?
When a team does well it doesn’t need 11 players in the top 2 of their position. The stats show he was decent and he managed 42 appearances in the season.
Maybe the better players have too many “fillers” around them to make the playoffs.
So we all agree we need a decent attacking left back / LWB
The top assister in the position in L2 last season was Exeter's 20 year old left back Jack Sparkes. He's pretty strong, quite tricky and has a lovely left foot. Decent crossing ability - a smattering of goals in there too. Young. He fits the bill....only problem is he was stretchered off yesterday with a suspected broken collar bone and I have no idea how quickly they heal!
Looks like a decent fit for us though as, until yesterday, he hadn't missed much action and gets a good number of crosses in.
Go get him MR Gallen
I assume with all these really class players Exeter had last season they ran away with the 4th divison?
They finished 3 points off the playoffs, so maybe just needed to keep the squad together and make a few good signings? Our season was similar and wasn’t that what you said we needed (rather than a total rebuild)?
Fair point but at the same time I don't think many Reading fans would have been excited about signing any of our players last summer, which is the fair comparison.
This is the 3rd Exeter player mentioned.
The difference being all of the Exeter players mentioned are young and top prospects from their well-respected academy.
If we had a young academy player playing every week in men’s football, I’m sure Reading fans would be more than happy to take them off us.
Williams isn't any of that but never mind. And this latest one suggested appears to have spent most of last season as back up to Lewis Page and filling in where needed.
Sparkes played 42 games for 2720 minutes. page managed 32 games totalling 2054 minutes
that does not make him a backup
Page was not on the stats for Assists iirc but then I wasn’t necessarily looking for him either
Sparkes is younger, has a better injury history and is unlikely to cost mega money
So we all agree we need a decent attacking left back / LWB
The top assister in the position in L2 last season was Exeter's 20 year old left back Jack Sparkes. He's pretty strong, quite tricky and has a lovely left foot. Decent crossing ability - a smattering of goals in there too. Young. He fits the bill....only problem is he was stretchered off yesterday with a suspected broken collar bone and I have no idea how quickly they heal!
Looks like a decent fit for us though as, until yesterday, he hadn't missed much action and gets a good number of crosses in.
Go get him MR Gallen
I assume with all these really class players Exeter had last season they ran away with the 4th divison?
They finished 3 points off the playoffs, so maybe just needed to keep the squad together and make a few good signings? Our season was similar and wasn’t that what you said we needed (rather than a total rebuild)?
Fair point but at the same time I don't think many Reading fans would have been excited about signing any of our players last summer, which is the fair comparison.
This is the 3rd Exeter player mentioned.
The difference being all of the Exeter players mentioned are young and top prospects from their well-respected academy.
If we had a young academy player playing every week in men’s football, I’m sure Reading fans would be more than happy to take them off us.
Williams isn't any of that but never mind. And this latest one suggested appears to have spent most of last season as back up to Lewis Page and filling in where needed.
Sparkes played 42 games for 2720 minutes. page managed 32 games totalling 2054 minutes
that does not make him a backup
Page was not on the stats for Assists iirc but then I wasn’t necessarily looking for him either
Sparkes is younger, has a better injury history and is unlikely to cost mega money
He started 13 games at left back last season, getting 1 assist.
He started 8 games at Left Mid and 6 games at Right Mid.
Of the 13 games at left back 12 were when Page was injured between the end of November and the start of February.
He missed half of the 19/20 season through injury and the games he did play he played in midfield.
If you were suggesting him to come in as part of the u23s and a back up left back now and one for the future but to solve our 1st team left back problem?
Or am I looking at a completely different player?
Edit his manager doesn't think he is a left back and was poor last season.....
So we all agree we need a decent attacking left back / LWB
The top assister in the position in L2 last season was Exeter's 20 year old left back Jack Sparkes. He's pretty strong, quite tricky and has a lovely left foot. Decent crossing ability - a smattering of goals in there too. Young. He fits the bill....only problem is he was stretchered off yesterday with a suspected broken collar bone and I have no idea how quickly they heal!
Looks like a decent fit for us though as, until yesterday, he hadn't missed much action and gets a good number of crosses in.
Go get him MR Gallen
I assume with all these really class players Exeter had last season they ran away with the 4th divison?
They finished 3 points off the playoffs, so maybe just needed to keep the squad together and make a few good signings? Our season was similar and wasn’t that what you said we needed (rather than a total rebuild)?
Fair point but at the same time I don't think many Reading fans would have been excited about signing any of our players last summer, which is the fair comparison.
This is the 3rd Exeter player mentioned.
The difference being all of the Exeter players mentioned are young and top prospects from their well-respected academy.
If we had a young academy player playing every week in men’s football, I’m sure Reading fans would be more than happy to take them off us.
Williams isn't any of that but never mind. And this latest one suggested appears to have spent most of last season as back up to Lewis Page and filling in where needed.
Sparkes played 42 games for 2720 minutes. page managed 32 games totalling 2054 minutes
that does not make him a backup
Page was not on the stats for Assists iirc but then I wasn’t necessarily looking for him either
Sparkes is younger, has a better injury history and is unlikely to cost mega money
Looks like Sparkes was moved to right midfield once Lewis Page come back from injury around Christmas. He then didn’t really play that much the last few games.
Didn't Adkins Southampton promotion team start off slowly, and looks bang average for about 6 weeks, and then clicked?
Yup. Lost and drew first two games.
First 6 games, lost 4, drew 1, won 1.
Gained 27 points from last 10 games, including 6 wins in a row to end the season.
So it's tactical, leave 'em thinking we are shite, then.. wam bam thank you ma'am, we sneak up on the rail and knock 'em bandy, Championship here we come..
Didn't Adkins Southampton promotion team start off slowly, and looks bang average for about 6 weeks, and then clicked?
Yup. Lost and drew first two games.
First 6 games, lost 4, drew 1, won 1.
Gained 27 points from last 10 games, including 6 wins in a row to end the season.
Did he have his squad ready from the off though? If we're accepting we're not going to have our squad sorted til game 5, is that another 6 games for them to gel?
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As they say.......there are no easy games & I doubt we would have done any better against any 2 teams you would care to mention.
Played the rest of the games either wide midfield or as a sub for Page.
This is the 3rd Exeter player mentioned.
Three Charlton players who have moved up to a higher division so why is it unrealistic for a similar situation at Exeter?
I have no idea how good Exeters players are/were but it's the hypocrisy, from more than a few people, that our players were all "dog shit" and Exeters are better.
I don't think Basel nor a championship club would have bought Millar or Maatsen on their performances for us, it's more their pedigree. But that's a different point all together.
Would love to see a side like this…
—————Stockley
Sims ——Kirk ——— Jaiyesimi
———————Gilbey
—————Dobson
Omole Famewo Inniss Matthews
————MacGillivray
Subs: GK, Gunter, Pearce, Clare, Morgan, Clayden, Washington
page managed 32 games totalling 2054 minutes
that does not make him a backup
Page was not on the stats for Assists iirc but then I wasn’t necessarily looking for him either
Sparkes is younger, has a better injury history and is unlikely to cost mega money
He started 8 games at Left Mid and 6 games at Right Mid.
Of the 13 games at left back 12 were when Page was injured between the end of November and the start of February.
He missed half of the 19/20 season through injury and the games he did play he played in midfield.
If you were suggesting him to come in as part of the u23s and a back up left back now and one for the future but to solve our 1st team left back problem?
Or am I looking at a completely different player?
Edit his manager doesn't think he is a left back and was poor last season.....
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.devonlive.com/sport/football/football-news/make-break-seasons-exeter-city-5457593.amp