I wouldn't say just because Ipswich are in for him you can rule us out, if we even are in.
The problem is Inniss. Are you going to attract a good enough player to back him up or do you just get the best RCB you can and if Inniss can't get in the team, tough? That second option could be more expensive. I don't think you can get a loan as back up, unless it's an older player that someone wants off the wage bill.
If we are managing Inniss to get him through friendlies how often is he going to be able to play three games in 8 days? I would say a loan would be a good call and I will wager they play half a season.
I wouldn't say just because Ipswich are in for him you can rule us out, if we even are in.
The problem is Inniss. Are you going to attract a good enough player to back him up or do you just get the best RCB you can and if Inniss can't get in the team, tough? That second option could be more expensive. I don't think you can get a loan as back up, unless it's an older player that someone wants off the wage bill.
If we are managing Inniss to get him through friendlies how often is he going to be able to play three games in 8 days? I would say a loan would be a good call and I will wager they play half a season.
That's exactly my point do you aim high and when Inniss is available he might not play?
Or do you do you say Inniss is my first choice but might only play 20 games and you'll play the rest?
Its a difficult call, and to attract a loan, because center halves very rarely got the chance to force there way into the team through sub appearances. You bring an attacking player off the bench in almost every game.
I wouldn't say just because Ipswich are in for him you can rule us out, if we even are in.
The problem is Inniss. Are you going to attract a good enough player to back him up or do you just get the best RCB you can and if Inniss can't get in the team, tough? That second option could be more expensive. I don't think you can get a loan as back up, unless it's an older player that someone wants off the wage bill.
If we are managing Inniss to get him through friendlies how often is he going to be able to play three games in 8 days? I would say a loan would be a good call and I will wager they play half a season.
That's exactly my point do you aim high and when Inniss is available he might not play?
Or do you do you say Inniss is my first choice but might only play 20 games and you'll play the rest?
Its a difficult call, and to attract a loan, because center halves very rarely got the chance to force there way into the team through sub appearances. You bring an attacking player off the bench in almost every game.
It is a difficult call, and I agree about loan CBs getting into the team through sub appearances but when Inniss gets injured or we need to rest him it is then up to him to win his place back.
I wouldn't say just because Ipswich are in for him you can rule us out, if we even are in.
The problem is Inniss. Are you going to attract a good enough player to back him up or do you just get the best RCB you can and if Inniss can't get in the team, tough? That second option could be more expensive. I don't think you can get a loan as back up, unless it's an older player that someone wants off the wage bill.
Innis will highly highly unlikely be completing a full season, so he ain’t the problem.
I wouldn't say just because Ipswich are in for him you can rule us out, if we even are in.
The problem is Inniss. Are you going to attract a good enough player to back him up or do you just get the best RCB you can and if Inniss can't get in the team, tough? That second option could be more expensive. I don't think you can get a loan as back up, unless it's an older player that someone wants off the wage bill.
If we are managing Inniss to get him through friendlies how often is he going to be able to play three games in 8 days? I would say a loan would be a good call and I will wager they play half a season.
That's exactly my point do you aim high and when Inniss is available he might not play?
Or do you do you say Inniss is my first choice but might only play 20 games and you'll play the rest?
Its a difficult call, and to attract a loan, because center halves very rarely got the chance to force there way into the team through sub appearances. You bring an attacking player off the bench in almost every game.
Honestly, any CB we look at should be good enough to be first choice on their own merit and let Inniss be the one to prove his quality/fitness and fight for a chance.
Such a CB would be very hard to find I grant you but for me Inniss cannot be counted on as a first choice defender for a whole season.
I wouldn't say just because Ipswich are in for him you can rule us out, if we even are in.
The problem is Inniss. Are you going to attract a good enough player to back him up or do you just get the best RCB you can and if Inniss can't get in the team, tough? That second option could be more expensive. I don't think you can get a loan as back up, unless it's an older player that someone wants off the wage bill.
If we are managing Inniss to get him through friendlies how often is he going to be able to play three games in 8 days? I would say a loan would be a good call and I will wager they play half a season.
That's exactly my point do you aim high and when Inniss is available he might not play?
Or do you do you say Inniss is my first choice but might only play 20 games and you'll play the rest?
Its a difficult call, and to attract a loan, because center halves very rarely got the chance to force there way into the team through sub appearances. You bring an attacking player off the bench in almost every game.
It's not just Inniss though, there's Famewo too who is likely to have a niggle or too. With 46 games and at least 2 CB spots available, our top 3 could all play 30 odd games each. I don't think you'd have any issue attracting a very good CB or persuading a loanee (or their club).
Inniss is clearly a dominating force on the field but if he can’t stay fit, he’s not reliable enough to be first choice. If someone like Edmundson came in, sorry Ryan but you’re going to be spending a lot of time on the bench.
I wouldn't say just because Ipswich are in for him you can rule us out, if we even are in.
The problem is Inniss. Are you going to attract a good enough player to back him up or do you just get the best RCB you can and if Inniss can't get in the team, tough? That second option could be more expensive. I don't think you can get a loan as back up, unless it's an older player that someone wants off the wage bill.
Innis will highly highly unlikely be completing a full season, so he ain’t the problem.
Exactly if he can't ever play midweek for example he can't expect another player to just drop out every other game. Then your looking at "first team wages" which changes who you can, and can't, go in for.
I think Famewo is much less of an injury risk than Inniss.
I'd say it's high on the list of priorities with Innis's injury record . Keep Elewere and Barker for cups. Not too fussed if it's a loan or a permanent signing.
Another first team level centre back is a must regardless of how good Inniss is and how promising Elewere is.
Elewere looks very promising but doubt he is ready to step in for 20 games. If we don't get another RCB in I could see us playing 3 at the back again by bringing Gunter in and I wouldn't be keen on that.
Edmundson would be quite a coup for us. 23 years old, great height and experience.
Fully expect him to sign for either Ipswich or Wigan.
Why … if we want someone we will get him like Clare
This story came from Portsmouth everything they are interested in someone they add Charlton Sunderland and Ipswich to the story .. think it gives them an excuse to their fans when he don’t join them ..
Edmundson would be quite a coup for us. 23 years old, great height and experience.
Fully expect him to sign for either Ipswich or Wigan.
Why … if we want someone we will get him like Clare
This story came from Portsmouth everything they are interested in someone they add Charlton Sunderland and Ipswich to the story .. think it gives them an excuse to their fans when he don’t join them ..
Edmundson would be quite a coup for us. 23 years old, great height and experience.
Fully expect him to sign for either Ipswich or Wigan.
Looks good but only 17 outings across 2 years. Granted Derby and Rangers are hard teams to break into - hopefully not injuries.
Not too dissimilar to when we signed Michael Morrison from Sheffield Wednesday. Sometimes a move doesn’t work out and you need to change to kickstart your career.
Another first team level centre back is a must regardless of how good Inniss is and how promising Elewere is.
Elewere looks very promising but doubt he is ready to step in for 20 games. If we don't get another RCB in I could see us playing 3 at the back again by bringing Gunter in and I wouldn't be keen on that.
Another first team level centre back is a must regardless of how good Inniss is and how promising Elewere is.
Elewere looks very promising but doubt he is ready to step in for 20 games. If we don't get another RCB in I could see us playing 3 at the back again by bringing Gunter in and I wouldn't be keen on that.
Dobson can also play CB.
That would leave Watson as the CDM - I'd rather Elewere for the 20 games to let him learn on the job.
Edmundson would be quite a coup for us. 23 years old, great height and experience.
Fully expect him to sign for either Ipswich or Wigan.
Why … if we want someone we will get him like Clare
This story came from Portsmouth everything they are interested in someone they add Charlton Sunderland and Ipswich to the story .. think it gives them an excuse to their fans when he don’t join them ..
Wigan/Ipswich comment was tongue in cheek.
The signing of Sean Clare isn’t a big enough statement of intent to warrant saying “if we want someone we will get him”. There are teams that can say that, we’re certainly not one of them.
I agree, the Pompey journo has possibly chucked other clubs in there to make the rumour more interesting.
Another first team level centre back is a must regardless of how good Inniss is and how promising Elewere is.
Elewere looks very promising but doubt he is ready to step in for 20 games. If we don't get another RCB in I could see us playing 3 at the back again by bringing Gunter in and I wouldn't be keen on that.
Dobson can also play CB.
That may be so ..... but if he's settled and performing well at DM, you don't really want to shift him from there. It can cause more problems than it solves.
Anyway, if CB was Dobson's best position, he'd have played his career there. He hasn't. Far better a proper specialist CB comes in.
Another first team level centre back is a must regardless of how good Inniss is and how promising Elewere is.
Elewere looks very promising but doubt he is ready to step in for 20 games. If we don't get another RCB in I could see us playing 3 at the back again by bringing Gunter in and I wouldn't be keen on that.
Dobson can also play CB.
That would leave Watson as the CDM - I'd rather Elewere for the 20 games to let him learn on the job.
That's fine for 1 or 2 but not the 30 odd Inniss missed last season. If Elewery is our 4th choice center back this season we are just repeating the mistakes of last January.
I am really pleased about how many people agree we need a RCB, not a back up to Inniss because that hasn't been the case all summer. I think his issues preseason have focused a few minds, hopefully a RCB, left back and Winger are the next through the door.
Another first team level centre back is a must regardless of how good Inniss is and how promising Elewere is.
Elewere looks very promising but doubt he is ready to step in for 20 games. If we don't get another RCB in I could see us playing 3 at the back again by bringing Gunter in and I wouldn't be keen on that.
Dobson can also play CB.
That would leave Watson as the CDM - I'd rather Elewere for the 20 games to let him learn on the job.
That's fine for 1 or 2 but not the 30 odd Inniss missed last season. If Elewery is our 4th choice center back this season we are just repeating the mistakes of last January.
I am really pleased about how many people agree we need a RCB, not a back up to Inniss because that hasn't been the case all summer. I think his issues preseason have focused a few minds, hopefully a RCB, left back and Winger are the next through the door.
Completely agree on needing the RCB and LB mind - Elerewe is a great rotation option but I would hope Innis doesn't miss 30 with better game-to-game management. Playing devil's advocate but I'd imagine Adkins would be semi-comfortable playing Pearce/Famewo though I don't like having two left footers in the middle personally.
Would be grand to get a Tucker/Edmundson in but not worth budget breaking. It seems Washington is retraining himself to be a LW this year, and Clayden is on the fringe but we only really have DJ as a natural winger. I'd say we need two more in that position - equally as important as a CB for me. I do agree the LB needs better cover as I'd be much more nervous with Roddy getting a string of games than Erewele.
While I agree we need a RCB, is it our highest need? I would suggest any transfer dollars should be used more towards a starting attacking mid or a starting winger. While not ideal, there are some coverage options if Innis were to be injured. Whether it is Deji, Gunter or sliding Famewo over. I struggle to see us creating a lot of scoring chances unless we add a couple of attacking options. Hopefully we go do all of the above but realistically we are going to have a couple gaps in the roster and it will be a matter of prioritization.
We need wingers more than anything right now and a midfield playmaker to push Albie. With Purrington getting injured LB is our weak spot in defence at the moment if anything. Guessing the club are focussing on what comes first.
At this stage of the transfer window, and still 5 weeks before the window slams shut, the club will still be working its recruitment list.
They've probably got a dozen names for half a dozen positions, and they'll sign players in any order as they become available rather than strictly prioritise. As far as the recruitment team will be concerned, each and every position with a vacancy is a priority.
While I agree we need a RCB, is it our highest need? I would suggest any transfer dollars should be used more towards a starting attacking mid or a starting winger. While not ideal, there are some coverage options if Innis were to be injured. Whether it is Deji, Gunter or sliding Famewo over. I struggle to see us creating a lot of scoring chances unless we add a couple of attacking options. Hopefully we go do all of the above but realistically we are going to have a couple gaps in the roster and it will be a matter of prioritization.
We still need several players, a winger or two and a left back are also a must. Ideally need a striker and creative CM as well. We need so many that we’ll have to sign them when they become available rather than in a priority order.
While I agree we need a RCB, is it our highest need? I would suggest any transfer dollars should be used more towards a starting attacking mid or a starting winger. While not ideal, there are some coverage options if Innis were to be injured. Whether it is Deji, Gunter or sliding Famewo over. I struggle to see us creating a lot of scoring chances unless we add a couple of attacking options. Hopefully we go do all of the above but realistically we are going to have a couple gaps in the roster and it will be a matter of prioritization.
We still need several players, a winger or two and a left back are also a must. Ideally need a striker and creative CM as well. We need so many that we’ll have to sign them when t fee available rather than in a priority order.
Exactly this. If the right player for ANY of the positions becomes available, sign them.
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Or do you do you say Inniss is my first choice but might only play 20 games and you'll play the rest?
Its a difficult call, and to attract a loan, because center halves very rarely got the chance to force there way into the team through sub appearances. You bring an attacking player off the bench in almost every game.
Such a CB would be very hard to find I grant you but for me Inniss cannot be counted on as a first choice defender for a whole season.
I think Famewo is much less of an injury risk than Inniss.
Looks good but only 17 outings across 2 years. Granted Derby and Rangers are hard teams to break into - hopefully not injuries.
This story came from Portsmouth everything they are interested in someone they add Charlton Sunderland and Ipswich to the story .. think it gives them an excuse to their fans when he don’t join them ..
It can cause more problems than it solves.
Anyway, if CB was Dobson's best position, he'd have played his career there. He hasn't.
Far better a proper specialist CB comes in.
I am really pleased about how many people agree we need a RCB, not a back up to Inniss because that hasn't been the case all summer. I think his issues preseason have focused a few minds, hopefully a RCB, left back and Winger are the next through the door.
They've probably got a dozen names for half a dozen positions, and they'll sign players in any order as they become available rather than strictly prioritise. As far as the recruitment team will be concerned, each and every position with a vacancy is a priority.