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Tbh those electric scooters are a weird one - It went from the police informing people that they were breaking the law by using on public pavements and roadways, because they are motorised and they weren't covered by any kind of insurance to, almost overnight, just about every large city in the UK, renting em out to anyone and everyone, regardless of age or ability.0
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Backhanders?0
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Wow... I pity those who have seen the e-Scooters thread and thought: "Naaa... Got no interest in that"12
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Think it's down to whatever makes the most money tbh. Reckon that if they felt they'd raise more funds banning em / issuing fines, reckon they'd be banned.
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The ones you rent in city’s are off the council so they say they’re government approved/serviced etc basically, you can use them if you’re paying us to use them (and not on the pavement)Gribbo said:Tbh those electric scooters are a weird one - It went from the police informing people that they were breaking the law by using on public pavements and roadways, because they are motorised and they weren't covered by any kind of insurance to, almost overnight, just about every large city in the UK, renting em out to anyone and everyone, regardless of age or ability.1 -
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Adult cyclists are not allowed to use the pavement to cycle on (unless it’s a dual purpose path and that’ll be marked for cyclists)
I made a point about adults cycling and using scooters on the pavement
What the fuck have pedestrians crossing the road got to do with the above?0 -
One of the best threads in ages1
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I think someone should send, a strongly worded Email to someone, highlighting the issue.0
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On the pavement?Showmetheway2gohome said:
I never said cyclists should cycle on the pavement I stated I cycle on the road all I said is I can’t blame some for cycling on pavements because roads are so dangerous.More dangerous to a cyclist than a cyclist is to a pedestrian on a pavement.cafcdave123 said:Adult cyclists are not allowed to use the pavement to cycle on (unless it’s a dual purpose path and that’ll be marked for cyclists)
I made a point about adults cycling and using scooters on the pavement
What the fuck have pedestrians crossing the road got to do with the above?How many times and ways do I have to explain that to you.If you don’t believe me get on a bike and have a ride around you might just might change your mind4 -
Right of way hierarchy.
Leaving out insects.
Small rodents such as mice, or ferrets.
Ducks, geese, chickens and fowl generally
Larger mammals such as cats.
Larger ruminates such as sheep or goats.
Much bigger animals such as Cows, horses and elephants.
Toddlers or babies accompanied or unaccompanied.
Wheelchair or mobility scooter users.
Children under ten on foot.
People over 70 on foot.
All other pedestrians.
Emergency vehicles.
People on roller skates or skateboards.
People on non electric scooters.
People on non electric bicycles.
Totters and their ilk pushing handcarts.
Buses
People on electric scooters.
People on electric bikes.
Moped riders.
Motorcyclists.
City cars.
Average cars.
Vans.
Lorries.
Tanks.
Audis
BMW's.
What have I left out?
Should this order change?
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It does. And we have seen the consequence on a number of electric buses in this country already.Showmetheway2gohome said:
So if e-bikes and scooters are little bombs that makes electric cars fucking nuclear bombs.msomerton said:Yep electric scooter and cycle uses have no care for any other use of the road or pavement, i have number of occasion only just got out the way of these things at the last minute on the pavement.
The other growing threat to others is these people charging these things at home, a fully charged battery is like a small bomb, so a threat to others nearby, for example flats and terraced houses.0 -
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I ride my bike plenty and really don't find it dangerous as long as you are paying attention. The biggest risk comes from delivery drivers on electric bikes who really don't seem to give a shit at all. Would never consider cycling on the pavement.Showmetheway2gohome said:
I never said cyclists should cycle on the pavement I stated I cycle on the road all I said is I can’t blame some for cycling on pavements because roads are so dangerous.More dangerous to a cyclist than a cyclist is to a pedestrian on a pavement.cafcdave123 said:Adult cyclists are not allowed to use the pavement to cycle on (unless it’s a dual purpose path and that’ll be marked for cyclists)
I made a point about adults cycling and using scooters on the pavement
What the fuck have pedestrians crossing the road got to do with the above?How many times and ways do I have to explain that to you.If you don’t believe me get on a bike and have a ride around you might just might change your mind2 -
Well he is Scottish, so I would think fairly.Showmetheway2gohome said:ULez pay per mile congestion charges. Car Tax
how thick are you.
(Only joking Dave)!0 -
RacistDaveMehmet said:
Well he is Scottish, so I would think fairly.Showmetheway2gohome said:ULez pay per mile congestion charges. Car Tax
how thick are you.
(Only joking Dave)!2 -
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Cyclists rarely injure pedestrians when cycling on the pavement, they simply force them to jump out of the way, to step aside, to step into the road, or into a bush or the overhanging branches of a tree, or crash into some street furniture, and generally force pedestrians to make way for them or risk an actual injury.1
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Having done PCE (Post Collision Examination)of a Motor Cyclist vs HGV, the worst outcome is always for the people on 2 wheelers.The only thing that will change legislation is when the KSI ,figures start to rise.0
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Who’d have thunk it?usetobunkin said:Having done PCE (Post Collision Examination)of a Motor Cyclist vs HGV, the worst outcome is always for the people on 2 wheelers.The only thing that will change legislation is when the KSI ,figures start to rise.
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I could've told you that tbh mateusetobunkin said:Having done PCE (Post Collision Examination)of a Motor Cyclist vs HGV, the worst outcome is always for the people on 2 wheelers.The only thing that will change legislation is when the KSI ,figures start to rise.3 -
This has been an interesting thread, worthy of some thought.
I've come to the conclusion that it would be safer for a driver to drive a car on the pavement as that way there would be a greatly reduced risk of the driver being injured in collisions with other cars and HGVs, etc. I mean, fuck the other pavement users - right?1 -
It depends on the class of mobility scooter. Class 2 has a max speed of 4mph and is pavement only. Class 3 can be up to 8mph and can be road or pavement - although if you're on the pavement you shouldn't go faster than 4mph. Anything that can go over 8mph is road only.Showmetheway2gohome said:So Dave oh wise one off the pavements and roads what’s your opinion on the mobility scooters. Some off them are quite fast nowadays should they be on road or pavement.
https://www.gov.uk/mobility-scooters-and-powered-wheelchairs-rules
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I'm thinking of doing a course myself.usetobunkin said:Having done PCE (Post Collision Examination)of a Motor Cyclist vs HGV, the worst outcome is always for the people on 2 wheelers.The only thing that will change legislation is when the KSI ,figures start to rise.
Who comes off worse in a collision between an Elephant and a Hamster.
Can't wait to see the results.5 -
Children are not required to cycle on the road.Showmetheway2gohome said:
Seriously 800 dying a year against someone having to move aside.would you seriously make you child ride on a road. I’ve never seen a child riding a e scooter on a road but according to some they should and they should die.Off_it said:This has been an interesting thread, worthy of some thought.
I've come to the conclusion that it would be safer for a driver to drive a car on the pavement as that way there would be a greatly reduced risk of the driver being injured in collisions with other cars and HGVs, etc. I mean, fuck the other pavement users - right?If you kid was going to ride his bike would you say make sure you ride on the road.How come we’ve got all these old train lines routes where cyclist and walkers use together if it’s so dangerous.1 -
I dare say the Government will give you a grant for that, and assuming it will take 3 years, could be several million pounds.blackpool72 said:
I'm thinking of doing a course myself.usetobunkin said:Having done PCE (Post Collision Examination)of a Motor Cyclist vs HGV, the worst outcome is always for the people on 2 wheelers.The only thing that will change legislation is when the KSI ,figures start to rise.
Who comes off worse in a collision between an Elephant and a Hamster.
Can't wait to see the results.0
