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That just isn't true though is it. Just one of those lines that gets thrown around, despite the fact that millions go about their daily life in London without issue, and almost exclusively said by people that don't live in London.Showmetheway2gohome said:Looks to me that it’s London that seems to attract these sorts of people nowadays don’t matter what type of vehicle they go about on.I see 3 people got shot again over the weekend.
Not a safe place nowadays I’m afraid to say.6 -
I feel fortunate to be a Londoner and to live here.7
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Surely the point about e-scooters is there is no pedalling 😉😉😆Showmetheway2gohome said:
Nonsense being peddled out it’s the people’s actions riding the bikes not the bikes.eaststandmike said:
Just ban them and make it illegal to sell them. I don’t know any normal person that owns or rides one. The only people that seem drawn to them are kids, criminals, drug dealers and wankers.clive said:'It seems to be getting a bit out of control': E-bike and e-scooter crimes soar 730% in five years
https://news.sky.com/story/it-seems-to-be-getting-a-bit-out-of-control-e-bike-and-e-scooter-crimes-soar-730-in-five-years-13271401This in my opinion is one of the biggest opportunities being missed to help climate control.More than the bullshit trying to stop cows farting.The amount of people commuting with 4 empty seats in there car.If they got on a bike it would un clog the roads they would also benefit financially save time on their commute and become healthier.Why is it you don’t seem to see kids riding to school anymore.If we could get kids to ride to school how much would the roads unclog morning and afternoon on the school run.I can understand why the government don’t won’t to promote bikes because of all the money they would lose on Taxes.But I can’t understand the general hate for bikes when they can do so much more for the environment than electric cars.Even the car manufacturers don’t want to make the electric cars As seen with Vauxhall in Luton.1 -
Blimey, what are the chances of that?Showmetheway2gohome said:Looks to me that it’s London that seems to attract these sorts of people nowadays don’t matter what type of vehicle they go about on.I see 3 people got shot again over the weekend.
Not a safe place nowadays I’m afraid to say.4 -
City of London enforcement officers were outside our office the other week taking photos and writing reports RE electric bikes being dumped all over the pavement.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
They're dumped everywhere- massive issue on pavements for those with mobility or sight issues. The hire companies don't give a toss and are not held accountable.seth plum said:The e-bikes are a great idea but dumping them anywhere is not.
Anybody figured out how they get charged if left randomly about and how a rider can tell if there is enough electricity inside the bicycle?
And punctures?
Simply ignoring the problems with ebikes and scooters is not the answer. The only answer I hear is 'they're less bad than cars' implying that we should simply ignore any issues.
Lazy government and no joined up transport policy.
They are apparently starting to fine the companies that own them.1 -
ExactlyCroydon said:
That just isn't true though is it. Just one of those lines that gets thrown around, despite the fact that millions go about their daily life in London without issue, and almost exclusively said by people that don't live in London.Showmetheway2gohome said:Looks to me that it’s London that seems to attract these sorts of people nowadays don’t matter what type of vehicle they go about on.I see 3 people got shot again over the weekend.
Not a safe place nowadays I’m afraid to say.0 -
Yeah but they say it on GB News and in the Daily Mail so it must be true.Wheresmeticket said:
ExactlyCroydon said:
That just isn't true though is it. Just one of those lines that gets thrown around, despite the fact that millions go about their daily life in London without issue, and almost exclusively said by people that don't live in London.Showmetheway2gohome said:Looks to me that it’s London that seems to attract these sorts of people nowadays don’t matter what type of vehicle they go about on.I see 3 people got shot again over the weekend.
Not a safe place nowadays I’m afraid to say.1 -
There are vey few cows in London and I have it on reliable evidence from experts that London-based cows don't fart or use guns.Showmetheway2gohome said:
Nonsense being peddled out it’s the people’s actions riding the bikes not the bikes.eaststandmike said:
Just ban them and make it illegal to sell them. I don’t know any normal person that owns or rides one. The only people that seem drawn to them are kids, criminals, drug dealers and wankers.clive said:'It seems to be getting a bit out of control': E-bike and e-scooter crimes soar 730% in five years
https://news.sky.com/story/it-seems-to-be-getting-a-bit-out-of-control-e-bike-and-e-scooter-crimes-soar-730-in-five-years-13271401This in my opinion is one of the biggest opportunities being missed to help climate control.More than the bullshit trying to stop cows farting.The amount of people commuting with 4 empty seats in there car.If they got on a bike it would un clog the roads they would also benefit financially save time on their commute and become healthier.Why is it you don’t seem to see kids riding to school anymore.If we could get kids to ride to school how much would the roads unclog morning and afternoon on the school run.I can understand why the government don’t won’t to promote bikes because of all the money they would lose on Taxes.But I can’t understand the general hate for bikes when they can do so much more for the environment than electric cars.Even the car manufacturers don’t want to make the electric cars As seen with Vauxhall in Luton.
I agree about the government not wanting to promote bikes and lose taxes. That's Labour all over though isn't it, big gas guzzling oligarchs.0 -
They must be getting really bored of it.Redskin said:
Blimey, what are the chances of that?Showmetheway2gohome said:Looks to me that it’s London that seems to attract these sorts of people nowadays don’t matter what type of vehicle they go about on.I see 3 people got shot again over the weekend.
Not a safe place nowadays I’m afraid to say.0 -
There it is.Showmetheway2gohome said:So why are you all moaning about increases in crime having to pay emissions charges.Tolls for tunnels.
obviously you just like to moan don’t know what Sadiq khan is on about air pollution in London. Drug crime. Knife crime. He just needs to ban bikes and scooters. Ozone layer fixed no more murders job done. Why haven’t they done already. 👍
You nutter.0 - Sponsored links:
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Err...what? Can we have that again in English?Showmetheway2gohome said:So why are you all moaning about increases in crime having to pay emissions charges.Tolls for tunnels.
obviously you just like to moan don’t know what Sadiq khan is on about air pollution in London. Drug crime. Knife crime. He just needs to ban bikes and scooters. Ozone layer fixed no more murders job done. Why haven’t they done already. 👍2 -
Sadiq Khan appears to get more criticism and hatred than Andy Burnham.
Sometimes I wonder why, what is the significant difference between those two Mayors?0 -
Even by your standards this is poor form implying it is because he is brown and/ or Muslim.seth plum said:Sadiq Khan appears to get more criticism and hatred than Andy Burnham.
Sometimes I wonder why, what is the significant difference between those two Mayors?
It's a London forum so he'll get more criticism than the mayor of Manchester as his policy will directly affect those who live and work in London.
Really poor to imply that criticism is based on racial lines. It will be for some but given he gets voted in it's obviously not the case for the vast majority.
You demonstrate a lot of class based prejudice towards the likes of Johnson and Methven etc whereas most critics base it on their characters and actions so very rich for you to snootily cast aspersions on other people's assumed prejudice.
Don't normally dive in on your posts Seth but sorry mate think that's out of order.
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Dangerous things, these e-scooters - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/17/lieutenant-general-igor-kirillov-russian-general-killed-moscow-explosion-chemical-weapons1
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‘Sometimes I wonder’,
As in sometimes.
I am reassured that criticism of Khan has absolutely nothing to do with his ethnicity or colour according to many voices here.
I notice that Burnham was on Kunessberg on Sunday and recently on Question time. Indeed other mayors have also been on such programmes.
Anybody know if Sadiq Khan has ever been invited on those programmes?0 -
seth plum said:Sadiq Khan appears to get more criticism and hatred than Andy Burnham.
Sometimes I wonder why, what is the significant difference between those two Mayors?
Bingo.0 -
He regularly attends James OBriens show on LBC but refuses to join Nick Ferrari's according to Ferrari.seth plum said:‘Sometimes I wonder’,
As in sometimes.
I am reassured that criticism of Khan has absolutely nothing to do with his ethnicity or colour according to many voices here.
I notice that Burnham was on Kunessberg on Sunday and recently on Question time. Indeed other mayors have also been on such programmes.
Anybody know if Sadiq Khan has ever been invited on those programmes?
I'd be very surprised if the BBC of all organisations were discriminating against him on racial or religious lines.0 -
Here's a starter based on a very quick search - he would probably have been on a lot more, but we know how the BBC discriminates against non-whites, the capitalist bastards.seth plum said:‘Sometimes I wonder’,
As in sometimes.
I am reassured that criticism of Khan has absolutely nothing to do with his ethnicity or colour according to many voices here.
I notice that Burnham was on Kunessberg on Sunday and recently on Question time. Indeed other mayors have also been on such programmes.
Anybody know if Sadiq Khan has ever been invited on those programmes?
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You have become a sad parody of your own sad self. It must be difficult being you.seth plum said:Sadiq Khan appears to get more criticism and hatred than Andy Burnham.
Sometimes I wonder why, what is the significant difference between those two Mayors?0 - Sponsored links:
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It is equally difficult for you to resist constant personal digs. A sad parody of a bully.SporadicAddick said:
You have become a sad parody of your own sad self. It must be difficult being you.seth plum said:Sadiq Khan appears to get more criticism and hatred than Andy Burnham.
Sometimes I wonder why, what is the significant difference between those two Mayors?1 -
Racism unfortunately still exists and has to be challenged whenever it appears.seth plum said:
It is equally difficult for you to resist constant personal digs. A sad parody of a bully.SporadicAddick said:
You have become a sad parody of your own sad self. It must be difficult being you.seth plum said:Sadiq Khan appears to get more criticism and hatred than Andy Burnham.
Sometimes I wonder why, what is the significant difference between those two Mayors?
What is not helpful though is people trying to shoehorn Racism into a conversation where it does not exist.
There's plenty of reason why a lot of people do not like the current Mayor of London and it's almost entirely due to his politics.5 -
If I shoehorned racism in it must have been very subtle then.blackpool72 said:
Racism unfortunately still exists and has to be challenged whenever it appears.seth plum said:
It is equally difficult for you to resist constant personal digs. A sad parody of a bully.SporadicAddick said:
You have become a sad parody of your own sad self. It must be difficult being you.seth plum said:Sadiq Khan appears to get more criticism and hatred than Andy Burnham.
Sometimes I wonder why, what is the significant difference between those two Mayors?
What is not helpful though is people trying to shoehorn Racism into a conversation where it does not exist.
There's plenty of reason why a lot of people do not like the current Mayor of London and it's almost entirely due to his politics.
I posed a question and some others have assumed it must be about race.
Absolutely nobody anywhere ever has been critical of Sadiq Khan because of his ethnicity.0 -
People on here and in society in general often moan about him for his politics.seth plum said:
If I shoehorned racism in it must have been very subtle then.blackpool72 said:
Racism unfortunately still exists and has to be challenged whenever it appears.seth plum said:
It is equally difficult for you to resist constant personal digs. A sad parody of a bully.SporadicAddick said:
You have become a sad parody of your own sad self. It must be difficult being you.seth plum said:Sadiq Khan appears to get more criticism and hatred than Andy Burnham.
Sometimes I wonder why, what is the significant difference between those two Mayors?
What is not helpful though is people trying to shoehorn Racism into a conversation where it does not exist.
There's plenty of reason why a lot of people do not like the current Mayor of London and it's almost entirely due to his politics.
I posed a question and some others have assumed it must be about race.
Absolutely nobody anywhere ever has been critical of Sadiq Khan because of his ethnicity.
I've yet to see a single poster on here moan about him because of his ethnicity.
It's all in your head.0 -
You may or may not be correct about posters on CL not attacking him because of his ethnicity. That is certainly not the case in the wider world however.blackpool72 said:
People on here and in society in general often moan about him for his politics.seth plum said:
If I shoehorned racism in it must have been very subtle then.blackpool72 said:
Racism unfortunately still exists and has to be challenged whenever it appears.seth plum said:
It is equally difficult for you to resist constant personal digs. A sad parody of a bully.SporadicAddick said:
You have become a sad parody of your own sad self. It must be difficult being you.seth plum said:Sadiq Khan appears to get more criticism and hatred than Andy Burnham.
Sometimes I wonder why, what is the significant difference between those two Mayors?
What is not helpful though is people trying to shoehorn Racism into a conversation where it does not exist.
There's plenty of reason why a lot of people do not like the current Mayor of London and it's almost entirely due to his politics.
I posed a question and some others have assumed it must be about race.
Absolutely nobody anywhere ever has been critical of Sadiq Khan because of his ethnicity.
I've yet to see a single poster on here moan about him because of his ethnicity.
It's all in your head.1 -
As if by magic, out pops the victim status...seth plum said:
It is equally difficult for you to resist constant personal digs. A sad parody of a bully.SporadicAddick said:
You have become a sad parody of your own sad self. It must be difficult being you.seth plum said:Sadiq Khan appears to get more criticism and hatred than Andy Burnham.
Sometimes I wonder why, what is the significant difference between those two Mayors?0 -
blackpool72 said:
People on here and in society in general often moan about him for his politics.seth plum said:
If I shoehorned racism in it must have been very subtle then.blackpool72 said:
Racism unfortunately still exists and has to be challenged whenever it appears.seth plum said:
It is equally difficult for you to resist constant personal digs. A sad parody of a bully.SporadicAddick said:
You have become a sad parody of your own sad self. It must be difficult being you.seth plum said:Sadiq Khan appears to get more criticism and hatred than Andy Burnham.
Sometimes I wonder why, what is the significant difference between those two Mayors?
What is not helpful though is people trying to shoehorn Racism into a conversation where it does not exist.
There's plenty of reason why a lot of people do not like the current Mayor of London and it's almost entirely due to his politics.
I posed a question and some others have assumed it must be about race.
Absolutely nobody anywhere ever has been critical of Sadiq Khan because of his ethnicity.
I've yet to see a single poster on here moan about him because of his ethnicity.
It's all in your head.All in my head is it?
Not a single poster is it?
How about the second to last post on this thread which got half a dozen likes?https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/comment/3410183#Comment_3410183
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As if by magic, out pops yet another personal dig.SporadicAddick said:
As if by magic, out pops the victim status...seth plum said:
It is equally difficult for you to resist constant personal digs. A sad parody of a bully.SporadicAddick said:
You have become a sad parody of your own sad self. It must be difficult being you.seth plum said:Sadiq Khan appears to get more criticism and hatred than Andy Burnham.
Sometimes I wonder why, what is the significant difference between those two Mayors?0 -
seth plum said:
If I shoehorned racism in it must have been very subtle then.blackpool72 said:
Racism unfortunately still exists and has to be challenged whenever it appears.seth plum said:
It is equally difficult for you to resist constant personal digs. A sad parody of a bully.SporadicAddick said:
You have become a sad parody of your own sad self. It must be difficult being you.seth plum said:Sadiq Khan appears to get more criticism and hatred than Andy Burnham.
Sometimes I wonder why, what is the significant difference between those two Mayors?
What is not helpful though is people trying to shoehorn Racism into a conversation where it does not exist.
There's plenty of reason why a lot of people do not like the current Mayor of London and it's almost entirely due to his politics.
I posed a question and some others have assumed it must be about race.
Absolutely nobody anywhere ever has been critical of Sadiq Khan because of his ethnicity.
It was obvious that was what was being implied.
And of course people have been critical of Khan based on/ influenced by his ethnicity in the same way many are critical of others based on other prejudice such as class and educational privilege....no one has denied that but your implication is that Andy Burnham gets treated with more leniency because of obvious distinguishable characteristics is passive aggressive nonsense if you're now pretending this wasn't what you were implying.
Not everyone or everything is racist and I'd argue the vast majority in this country are not whilst racists do still exist of course.
Constant victim mentality you have when you deliberately stoke the fire with these sort of comments then play the innocent victim when challenged or called out on it.
Please for your own sake Seth sort this out as it's unhealthy.5 -
Unsurprisingly I disagree with you.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:seth plum said:
If I shoehorned racism in it must have been very subtle then.blackpool72 said:
Racism unfortunately still exists and has to be challenged whenever it appears.seth plum said:
It is equally difficult for you to resist constant personal digs. A sad parody of a bully.SporadicAddick said:
You have become a sad parody of your own sad self. It must be difficult being you.seth plum said:Sadiq Khan appears to get more criticism and hatred than Andy Burnham.
Sometimes I wonder why, what is the significant difference between those two Mayors?
What is not helpful though is people trying to shoehorn Racism into a conversation where it does not exist.
There's plenty of reason why a lot of people do not like the current Mayor of London and it's almost entirely due to his politics.
I posed a question and some others have assumed it must be about race.
Absolutely nobody anywhere ever has been critical of Sadiq Khan because of his ethnicity.
It was obvious that was what was being implied.
And of course people have been critical of Khan based on/ influenced by his ethnicity in the same way many are critical of others based on other prejudice such as class and educational privilege....no one has denied that but your implication is that Andy Burnham gets treated with more leniency because of obvious distinguishable characteristics is passive aggressive nonsense if you're now pretending this wasn't what you were implying.
Not everyone or everything is racist and I'd argue the vast majority in this country are not whilst racists do still exist of course.
Constant victim mentality you have when you deliberately stoke the fire with these sort of comments then play the innocent victim when challenged or called out on it.
Please for your own sake Seth sort this out as it's unhealthy.
Leaving aside the Khan/Burnham aspect of things just for a moment, I believe it is not unhealthy but healthy to be woke to any racism.
I am afraid I do not believe as you do that it is the ‘vast majority’ who are not racist.
I think it is a dangerous minority.2
