I live on a road where the houses have drives, many of which have hedges and walls which obscure the driver's view of the pavement, so they have to edge out very slowly. Some of the e scooter 'drivers' who ride along the pavement at great speed, wouldn't stand a chance if a driver sees them too late.
I hope the parents who buy these scooters for their children, are aware of the risks they are taking with their children's lives.
I live on a road where the houses have drives, many of which have hedges and walls which obscure the driver's view of the pavement, so they have to edge out very slowly. Some of the e scooter 'drivers' who ride along the pavement at great speed, wouldn't stand a chance if a driver sees them too late.
I hope the parents who buy these scooters for their children, are aware of the risks they are taking with their children's lives.
I doubt they give a toss. They buy an illegal to drive on public places vehicle and expect their offspring to to behave in a sensible manner. I think not.
As annoying as they are, I really don't see the difference between them and the electric bikes flying around. Some of those bikes are super quick and surely come under the same laws as the scooters.
Scooters are not easy to see, the riders wear dark clothing, they are not fitted with lights, are often ridden on pavements, the wrong way on one way systems and sometimes groups of yoof using threatening behaviour to everyone. The electric bikes are more expensive so a bit more exclusive.
On the continent in many countries if a law doesn't exist permitting say , an electric scooter then it isn't legal.
In England if a law doesn't exist regarding these they are automatically legal . I know which way I prefer it.
I've just these two, she's showing him something on the pnone. Two Police cars went past and ignored them.
Very safety conscious - I hope the motorists take as much care. Impressed at how safety conscious most E-scooter users are in Greenwich and Charlton.
I don't think they are illegal to use anymore as it seems okay to use them on the pavement, on the road and also going in the wrong direction on the road.
As annoying as they are, I really don't see the difference between them and the electric bikes flying around. Some of those bikes are super quick and surely come under the same laws as the scooters.
There seems to be a lot of confusion about E Bikes. Generally in the UK E Bikes are limited to providing assistance only. This means that the rider needs to pedal the bike otherwise it doesn't move. You can cycle an E Bike without any assistance or you can add assistance normally in stages where the motor contributes say 20%, 40%, 60% or 80% of the work depending on which setting you have selected. Normally when riding on a flat level surface you might chose zero contribution from the motor. On an incline you might switch to 20% or 40% depending on the gradient. If you're daft enough to try and cycle up Shooters Hill then you might switch to 80% assistance but in all of these cases, if you stop pedalling then the bike stops. I have seen illegal E bikes on a couple of occasions which are fitted with a twist grip and these will move without pedalling but these are very scarce (thankfully) in the UK. Most E Bikes are used by older people who want to cycle for leisure but with the benefit of undertaking some exercise and also note that you won't see much lycra clothing on E Bike riders, they're a different breed.
Nearly got hit by one the other day when walking on a path. Thankfully the rider looked up from his phone long enough to swerve around me. Arsehole magnets these things
With the congestion charge in London and thinking about the environment I think cars should be banned from the roads in central London.only delivery or essential transportation should be allowed.why anyone wants to drive in central London at 5mph I don’t know. Got to be better to get train in and use a bike or these scooters if the roads can be planned out properly think it’s the future.
I doubt any Government is capable of doing the required planning.
With the congestion charge in London and thinking about the environment I think cars should be banned from the roads in central London.only delivery or essential transportation should be allowed.why anyone wants to drive in central London at 5mph I don’t know. Got to be better to get train in and use a bike or these scooters if the roads can be planned out properly think it’s the future.
People dont drive in central london and pay the 15 quid for the fun of it.
Cyclist regularly suddenly come up behind me on the pavement, (I say suddenly because for me I don’t hear them) and they expect me to get out of their way, the same goes for the electronic scooters. I accept (but don’t really like) that such vehicles are on the pavement, but they should not have priority over pedestrians. If you scooter or cycle and you come up behind people ‘blocking’ your pavement, get off and walk.
Cyclist regularly suddenly come up behind me on the pavement, (I say suddenly because for me I don’t hear them) and they expect me to get out of their way, the same goes for the electronic scooters. I accept (but don’t really like) that such vehicles are on the pavement, but they should not have priority over pedestrians. If you scooter or cycle and you come up behind people ‘blocking’ your pavement, get off and walk.
It's worse if you're walking on the towpath near a river when they assume right of way and can get quite aggressive.
A ban on carrying e-scooters on London's transport network should be enforced after a battery caught fire on the Tube, a union has said.
Passengers had to abandon a service at Parsons Green station in west London on Monday after a scooter caught fire then continued to burn on the platform.
Cyclist regularly suddenly come up behind me on the pavement, (I say suddenly because for me I don’t hear them) and they expect me to get out of their way, the same goes for the electronic scooters. I accept (but don’t really like) that such vehicles are on the pavement, but they should not have priority over pedestrians. If you scooter or cycle and you come up behind people ‘blocking’ your pavement, get off and walk.
It's worse if you're walking on the towpath near a river when they assume right of way and can get quite aggressive.
I regularly cycle along the tow path from Charlton to Erith and there are clearly marked cycle lanes and pedestrian lanes so if some Herbert strays in to the cycle path then yes I expect them to move especially as 99 percent of said Herberts are tapping away on their phones and not paying attention
A ban on carrying e-scooters on London's transport network should be enforced after a battery caught fire on the Tube, a union has said.
Passengers had to abandon a service at Parsons Green station in west London on Monday after a scooter caught fire then continued to burn on the platform.
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I hope the parents who buy these scooters for their children, are aware of the risks they are taking with their children's lives.
Say goodbye to an awful lot of inventing.
Two Police cars went past and ignored them.
I don't think they are illegal to use anymore as it seems okay to use them on the pavement, on the road and also going in the wrong direction on the road.
I have seen illegal E bikes on a couple of occasions which are fitted with a twist grip and these will move without pedalling but these are very scarce (thankfully) in the UK. Most E Bikes are used by older people who want to cycle for leisure but with the benefit of undertaking some exercise and also note that you won't see much lycra clothing on E Bike riders, they're a different breed.
I accept (but don’t really like) that such vehicles are on the pavement, but they should not have priority over pedestrians.
If you scooter or cycle and you come up behind people ‘blocking’ your pavement, get off and walk.
The laws and enforcement are working well.
A ban on carrying e-scooters on London's transport network should be enforced after a battery caught fire on the Tube, a union has said.
Passengers had to abandon a service at Parsons Green station in west London on Monday after a scooter caught fire then continued to burn on the platform.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-59148069