Thoroughly enjoying this thread. There will be beds wetter than the pitch on Saturday if we don’t sign someone.
So that's the important thing. Not getting some decent players in, pissing off people you don't agree with.
We have got in decent players and taking the window as a whole I think we are a better squad now.
The despair, wringing of hands and outrage against our management team who are working their buts off to make us better is I think disrespectful and unwarranted and it pisses me off.
I think Steve, Bows and TS deserve better from fans. Just my opinion.
I should use the past tense though, I now find it just disappointing.
Lets see where we are at the end of the season. If we get less points in the second half of the season, you were right.
Sage, as someone who wanted Maddison at Cafc years ago your insider information wasn't needed on this occasions.
It was so patently obvious that MM and Bowyer wasn't going to work within a couple of weeks.; at 27 a very useful lower division player had lost his way totally.
Marcus Maddison was going to either be a great signing or a complete disaster. I was hoping for the former.
Sadly it was the latter.
Was he even give an opportunity for it to be either?
Losing Williams and Maddison on the same day seems...odd.
To quote Oscar Wilde from, 'The Importance of Being Earnest ' , "To lose one winger is unfortunate, two lose two is careless".
It’s all very well people saying ‘yeah but Millar and Stockley have come in this window’ but they’re only here for another twenty one games. Doesn’t seem anything to cheer about with such short term thinking. We need to start assembling a team to last us. Maybe we’ll start in the summer.
You can’t really rebuild a team in January unfortunately. Bogle, Maddison and Williams also wouldn’t have been here in the summer either. We’ve at least swapped them for players we’re planning on putting in every week. Hopefully with a full run up in summer we can have a proper rebuild. And hopefully we won’t have a cap to deal with
Agree that you cannot build a team in January but you can most definitely weaken one.
Are we weaker? We’ve traded out fringe players and replaced them with new first teamers. I think we need one in now but it’s looking like being a decent window
It’s all very well people saying ‘yeah but Millar and Stockley have come in this window’ but they’re only here for another twenty one games. Doesn’t seem anything to cheer about with such short term thinking. We need to start assembling a team to last us. Maybe we’ll start in the summer.
You can’t really rebuild a team in January unfortunately. Bogle, Maddison and Williams also wouldn’t have been here in the summer either. We’ve at least swapped them for players we’re planning on putting in every week. Hopefully with a full run up in summer we can have a proper rebuild. And hopefully we won’t have a cap to deal with
Agree that you cannot build a team in January but you can most definitely weaken one.
Are we weaker? We’ve traded out fringe players and replaced them with new first teamers. I think we need one in now but it’s looking like being a decent window
I don't know if we are weaker, but I would say unless we sign a winger (which we are clearly trying hard to do) we've imbalanced the squad.
No way we are weaker from the start of the window. The players that have left were hardly putting g in any decent performances. Now they have gone they are world beaters 😂 we have basically lost fringe players and brought in what should be starters. How does that weaken us ?
Age and desire is key. I said it before. Lincoln last season had an average age squad of 31. This season 22. Their manager saw what was needed to compete in League one to beat the old cloggers with ego's. We've had too many players who are too slow and waste time with tippy tappy paces and back to Amos. We need young fit players with a career to carve out. Millar is just what we need to be signing on contracts, not loans. Lincoln managed to get the deals done at well under the salary cap.
Maybe we need to regroup in the summer and have a CP style clear out.
Thing is Bowyer has not only kept all the older player (Pearce & Pratley) but added in Watson & Gunter too. Both on permanent contracts. The young players are all on loan.
And then we sell the other youngsters just to make sure.
Lincoln going in one direction whereas we are going in another. Just check the league table......
Sage, as someone who wanted Maddison at Cafc years ago your insider information wasn't needed on this occasions.
It was so patently obvious that MM and Bowyer wasn't going to work within a couple of weeks.; at 27 a very useful lower division player had lost his way totally.
Marcus Maddison was going to either be a great signing or a complete disaster. I was hoping for the former.
Sadly it was the latter.
Was he even give an opportunity for it to be either?
Losing Williams and Maddison on the same day seems...odd.
To quote Oscar Wilde from, 'The Importance of Being Earnest ' , "To lose one winger is unfortunate, two lose two is careless".
Spelling never was Oscar’s strong suit.
His last words as he was dying was "Either me or this bloody wallpaper has to go"
I think counting Lapslie, Wiredu and Davison in this is a little bit disingenuous. They haven't featured this season and don't need to be replaced.
None of the "outs" were likely to add anything of note in the next 3 months with the possible exception that Williams may have provided 1 or 2 assists.
it is quite frustrating seeing reports of players we’ve failed or might have signed, sometimes wish I didn’t follow all this and find out what happened in the morning!!!!!...... But I can’t!!!!!😤😤😤😤😤, c’mon Charlton give us all something to be happy about, pleeeeeeaase!!!!!
Definitely need to be playing with two wingers. Look at the difference Millar has made since he came in! The narrow diamond doesn't work with slow lethargic midfield players.
Getting lots of crosses in the box now we have a player who attacks the ball well in Stockley. Schwartz can capitalise on the loose balls in the box aswell.
Again, would be helpful to have the retrospective Williams comments on the Williams thread.
I take it as positive the Williams and Maddison announcements. Signals the green light to me that we’ve agreed the in’s we want.
perhaps I’m trying to look at this too positively?
That's the way I am looking at it too mate. Glass half full and all that....
If nothing else we have saved a few bob on wages but I'd like to think there may be something bubbling along
Imagine if Randall and Kirk came in..the window would be a success and the future would look a lot brighter. Even if only one of them were to come in actually.
The next couple of hours will be crucial
Thinking it more likely we get Randall and Hopkirk deceased !
Let's be honest TS aim of Europe in 8 years is not going to start by signing a L1 journeyman. Would have hoped to have a bit more ambition this window. Its a shit league, we've signed Ronnie who I can't help but feel was signed due to the Danish connection and some more loanees. So no matter what another rebuild is needed in the summer.
Keep hearing the cap is killing us, but the cynic in me says maybe we don't have as much money as we thought.
Williams obviously divided opinion, i think he’s better than a lot give him credit. Says something he’s gone to a team in the championship too.
Their fans are far from thrilled.
Not sure how Williams will fit in with Mick McCarthy's style of football either. But if nothing else he can keep Dillon Phillips company on the bench so that's nice
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Lets see where we are at the end of the season. If we get less points in the second half of the season, you were right.
I don't know if we are weaker, but I would say unless we sign a winger (which we are clearly trying hard to do) we've imbalanced the squad.
And then we sell the other youngsters just to make sure.
Lincoln going in one direction whereas we are going in another. Just check the league table......
Getting lots of crosses in the box now we have a player who attacks the ball well in Stockley.
Schwartz can capitalise on the loose balls in the box aswell.
One is far better and younger than the other.
Keep hearing the cap is killing us, but the cynic in me says maybe we don't have as much money as we thought.
Not sure how Williams will fit in with Mick McCarthy's style of football either. But if nothing else he can keep Dillon Phillips company on the bench so that's nice