Still not in the Bowyer out camp, but I do wonder whether or not his stubbornness and seemingly single mindedness around how he wants players to play with an “all or nothing” attitude has actually gone against us here.
I’m all for a committed squad of players that get stuck in, but you also need some quality.
Sadly, I feel that we’re losing more than we’re gaining, and that another manager maybe would’ve handled things differently.
Despite that, I’m still fully behind the team and management. Let’s hope I have some humble pie to tuck into come the end of the season..!
Again, would be helpful to have the retrospective Williams comments on the Williams thread.
I take it as positive the Williams and Maddison announcements. Signals the green light to me that we’ve agreed the in’s we want.
perhaps I’m trying to look at this too positively?
I think we’re looking at next season and getting rid of people that won’t be here for a bit of cash.
Maybe it’s good to be realistic and lay proper foundations. Today’s business doesn’t exactly scream making a proper go of it for the rest of the year at least.
Losing Williams and Maddison to get Josh Morris is painfully bad business
Why? Maddison obviously wasn’t working out and Jonny’s move was always going to happen once a Championship team came in for him. Neither were regular starters though. If Morris comes in and plays regularly and does well then it’ll be good business. Maddison was clearly never going to play for us again regardless so getting him off the wage bill is a win
Sod Marcus Maddison.
Josh Morris isn’t good enough to clean Williams’ boots. He’s a League One journeyman and nothing more. JW is not only one of footballs good guys and all round fans favourite, he’s a much better player than Josh Morris
Sage, as someone who wanted Maddison at Cafc years ago your insider information wasn't needed on this occasions.
It was so patently obvious that MM and Bowyer wasn't going to work within a couple of weeks.; at 27 a very useful lower division player had lost his way totally.
Marcus Maddison was going to either be a great signing or a complete disaster. I was hoping for the former.
Sadly it was the latter.
Needed or not, I shared it because people were getting the wrong end of the stick. Obviously, it wasn’t exactly needed in the end because Cawley tweeted all about it afterwards. The point of the forum is to share information and opinions, be it whole or not, that’s what I done.
The doom and gloom is quite ridiculous. We’ve sent a bloke who’s never in the squad out on loan and sold a player who doesn’t influence a game to a higher division. Anyone would think our best two players have left the building.
I remember feeling gutted when Gallagher was recalled. I knew then we were in trouble that season. I do not get that feeling this time around. We will be better off I'm sure of it.
Anyone who blames Bowyer for Maddison leaving and not being successful whilst here is fully entitled to your own opinion. However, it’s incredibly difficult to form any kind of opinion when you just don’t understand what has happened behind the scenes.
If and when the story comes out, everyone who has sided with Maddison will wonder what was going through their mind to question the decisions Bowyer makes.
I am not in a position to put a public forum the situation. But what I will say is Maddison does not want to be here anymore and is not committed to the cause. When that is the case, it’s best to get rid. No matter how talented that individual may be with a football at their feet.
I am with Bowyer 100% and all I can say is, good riddance.
As it's a loan we must still be paying part of his salary.
Morris was mustard for Scunthorpe.. always scored worldies, not sure now though. If he can get that form back then it's a good signing and could work well with the strikers like he did with that Van Veen I think it was them years ago.
Again, would be helpful to have the retrospective Williams comments on the Williams thread.
I take it as positive the Williams and Maddison announcements. Signals the green light to me that we’ve agreed the in’s we want.
perhaps I’m trying to look at this too positively?
That's the way I am looking at it too mate. Glass half full and all that....
If nothing else we have saved a few bob on wages but I'd like to think there may be something bubbling along
Imagine if Randall and Kirk came in..the window would be a success and the future would look a lot brighter. Even if only one of them were to come in actually.
Anyone who blames Bowyer for Maddison leaving and not being successful whilst here is fully entitled to your own opinion. However, it’s incredibly difficult to form any kind of opinion when you just don’t understand what has happened behind the scenes.
If and when the story comes out, everyone who has sided with Maddison will wonder what was going through their mind to question the decisions Bowyer makes.
I am not in a position to put a public forum the situation. But what I will say is Maddison does not want to be here anymore and is not committed to the cause. When that is the case, it’s best to get rid. No matter how talented that individual may be with a football at their feet.
I am with Bowyer 100% and all I can say is, good riddance.
As it's a loan we must still be paying part of his salary.
Unfortunately, looks as though a permanent was not able to be agreed.
Morris was mustard for Scunthorpe.. always scored worldies, not sure now though. If he can get that form back then it's a good signing and could work well with the strikers like he did with that Van Veen I think it was them years ago.
Still not in the Bowyer out camp, but I do wonder whether or not his stubbornness and seemingly single mindedness around how he wants players to play with an “all or nothing” attitude has actually gone against us here.
I’m all for a committed squad of players that get stuck in, but you also need some quality.
Sadly, I feel that we’re losing more than we’re gaining, and that another manager maybe would’ve handled things differently.
Despite that, I’m still fully behind the team and management. Let’s hope I have some humble pie to tuck into come the end of the season..!
Or maybe we’ve looked at the heavy schedule ahead, the standard of pitches impacting play, the formation style of play being adopted mainly this year in L1 and realised we need to adjust our approach to be success over the coming months?
I think counting Lapslie, Wiredu and Davison in this is a little bit disingenuous. They haven't featured this season and don't need to be replaced.
I think it's also hardly worth counting Doughty, he was injured, hadn't played for months and wasn't likely to feature much, if at all, before his contract ran out.
Williams, Smyth, Bogle and Maddison contributed 6 goals in 60 combined appearances (inc sub appearances) this season. I don’t know number of assists.
Schwartz, Millar, Smith and Stockley have joined in this window.
Does it really constitute a bad window?
We will only really be able to tell at the end of the season. We had a dire transfer window this time last year and it cost us. Let’s hope it doesn’t this time.
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Permanent transfers out:
Bogle
Lapslie
Doughty
Williams
Wiredu
Stockley too has proven to be a step up from Bogle, we await to see what Smith will be like, probably tomorrow night
Hasnt been a perfect last day but wouldnt call it an awful window
Schwartz, Millar, Smith and Stockley have joined in this window.
Doughty out Millar in
Bogle out Stockley in
Smyth out Schwartz in
Levitt out Smith in
Williams out ?
Maddison out ?
I do not get that feeling this time around. We will be better off I'm sure of it.
A good portion of those wages (now freed up) can then go on Aneke's new deal?
Bowyer mentioned a few weeks ago that we had £500 p/w left, we werent keeping Aneke on that sort of increase
Might still be a push to keep him if Championship clubs are already talking to his Agent, but we might stand a chance
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I still reckon the Kirk deal will go through.
If nothing else we have saved a few bob on wages but I'd like to think there may be something bubbling along
Imagine if Randall and Kirk came in..the window would be a success and the future would look a lot brighter. Even if only one of them were to come in actually.
The next couple of hours will be crucial
Our Williams replacement is Millar.