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January 2021 Transfer Targets (last minute swoop for Jaiyesimi p184 - NOW it's all over.)
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It’s all very well people saying ‘yeah but Millar and Stockley have come in this window’ but they’re only here for another twenty one games. Doesn’t seem anything to cheer about with such short term thinking. We need to start assembling a team to last us. Maybe we’ll start in the summer.4
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Tells you how badly we wanted the bloke out of the clubFerryman said:
As it's a loan we must still be paying part of his salary.Sage said:Anyone who blames Bowyer for Maddison leaving and not being successful whilst here is fully entitled to your own opinion. However, it’s incredibly difficult to form any kind of opinion when you just don’t understand what has happened behind the scenes.
If and when the story comes out, everyone who has sided with Maddison will wonder what was going through their mind to question the decisions Bowyer makes.
I am not in a position to put a public forum the situation. But what I will say is Maddison does not want to be here anymore and is not committed to the cause. When that is the case, it’s best to get rid. No matter how talented that individual may be with a football at their feet.
I am with Bowyer 100% and all I can say is, good riddance.2 -
Which of those will be here next season?ForeverAddickted said:
Has it been an awful window? - Schwartz and Millar are both off the mark, the latter has seriously impressed a good numbercafc_harry said:IF we only get Morris after losing them two then Bowyer has some serious explaining to do, awful window.
Stockley too has proven to be a step up from Bogle, we await to see what Smith will be like, probably tomorrow night
Hasnt been a perfect last day but wouldnt call it an awful window
Give him 2 or 3 windows to rebuild the squad. We'll with just over 2 hours to go that's a window gone. Are we still at 2 or 3 more windows or is it now 1 or 2?
I would happily finish 10th or 12th if we cleared out the dead wood and bought in young hungry players. Instead we are getting rid of the players Bowyer and Thomas said would get us in the play offs 3 months ago and replacing them with more loans.
You might not agree with that point of view but you must at least acknowledge that its a valid point of view?7 -
Wishful thinking. Hope you’re right thoughjakecafc said:Morris was mustard for Scunthorpe.. always scored worldies, not sure now though. If he can get that form back then it's a good signing and could work well with the strikers like he did with that Van Veen I think it was them years ago.
I still reckon the Kirk deal will go through.0 -
Cod be relevant....
COD-CLARKE ARMY!
Chris Conn-Clarke has joined Fleetwood Town from Burnley. The 19-year-old had been training with the Cod Army and has now made a permanent move to Highbury.
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Regardless of how impactful Williams and Maddison were or weren't we once again find ourselves in the same old situation of letting players go and now scrambling around for players on deadline day, Bowyer needs to pull some rabbits out of hats now and I can only see them coming from the Josh Parker bargain bucket now.
Why couldn't we have only let Williams go if we got Morris or someone in. I still think Williams had a lot to offer us, too many people got caught up on the goals and assist stats yet he brought a lot more than that to the team. Still it is what it is and it's just another deadline day for us.
Bowyer is going to have to start delivering first some players tonight and then some results on the pitch or he may find TS's questions become a lot more tougher than he's used to.8 -
Difficult to assemble a long term team now though. If we went all out now and built the team of Gallen and Bowyers dreams, then don’t get promoted, we’re absolutely screwed with wage cap next season.AddickUpNorth said:It’s all very well people saying ‘yeah but Millar and Stockley have come in this window’ but they’re only here for another twenty one games. Doesn’t seem anything to cheer about with such short term thinking. We need to start assembling a team to last us. Maybe we’ll start in the summer.I can see why they have gone for more loans at this stage.1 -
The players they're replacing were out of contract at the end of the season. Yes it's not ideal to have loans coming in but it's not like we're offloading players that were on 2-3 year deals and replacing with six month loans.AddickUpNorth said:It’s all very well people saying ‘yeah but Millar and Stockley have come in this window’ but they’re only here for another twenty one games. Doesn’t seem anything to cheer about with such short term thinking. We need to start assembling a team to last us. Maybe we’ll start in the summer.2 -
IN: Schwartz, Stockley(L), Millar(L), Smith (L), Morris?Callumcafc said:IN: Schwartz, Stockley, Millar, Smith
OUT: Levitt, Doughty, Smyth, Bogle, Williams, Maddison
Levitt -> Smith
Bogle -> Stockley
Doughty -> Millar
Smyth -> Schwartz
Maddison -> ?
Williams -> ?
OUT: Levitt(L), Doughty, Smyth(L), Bogle, Williams, Maddison
Levitt -> Smith
Bogle -> Stockley
Doughty -> Millar
Smyth -> Schwartz
Maddison -> Morris?
Williams -> ?
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I don’t think we can call either player a winger. Not in the traditional sense of the word. Both play in different positions across the midfield.addick1956 said:
To quote Oscar Wilde from, 'The Importance of Being Earnest ' , "To lose one winger is unfortunate, two lose two is careless".se9addick said:
Was he even give an opportunity for it to be either?soapboxsam said:Sage, as someone who wanted Maddison at Cafc years ago your insider information wasn't needed on this occasions.
It was so patently obvious that MM and Bowyer wasn't going to work within a couple of weeks.; at 27 a very useful lower division player had lost his way totally.
Marcus Maddison was going to either be a great signing or a complete disaster. I was hoping for the former.
Sadly it was the latter.
Losing Williams and Maddison on the same day seems...odd.1 - Sponsored links:
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Possibly, although it’s not stopped opposing teams from playing some good football from what I’ve seen this season. We also managed it when SCP took us up from league one last time.AFKABartram said:
Or maybe we’ve looked at the heavy schedule ahead, the standard of pitches impacting play, the formation style of play being adopted mainly this year in L1 and realised we need to adjust our approach to be success over the coming months?Rylo said:Still not in the Bowyer out camp, but I do wonder whether or not his stubbornness and seemingly single mindedness around how he wants players to play with an “all or nothing” attitude has actually gone against us here.I’m all for a committed squad of players that get stuck in, but you also need some quality.Sadly, I feel that we’re losing more than we’re gaining, and that another manager maybe would’ve handled things differently.Despite that, I’m still fully behind the team and management. Let’s hope I have some humble pie to tuck into come the end of the season..!Who knowsIf we’re planning ahead then hopefully we are getting the players that we don’t want for next season off of the wage bill, and all being well, finding a system that might just get us up this year...1 -
Age and desire is key. I said it before. Lincoln last season had an average age squad of 31. This season 22. Their manager saw what was needed to compete in League one to beat the old cloggers with ego's. We've had too many players who are too slow and waste time with tippy tappy paces and back to Amos. We need young fit players with a career to carve out. Millar is just what we need to be signing on contracts, not loans. Lincoln managed to get the deals done at well under the salary cap.
Maybe we need to regroup in the summer and have a CP style clear out.4 -
You can’t really rebuild a team in January unfortunately. Bogle, Maddison and Williams also wouldn’t have been here in the summer either. We’ve at least swapped them for players we’re planning on putting in every week. Hopefully with a full run up in summer we can have a proper rebuild. And hopefully we won’t have a cap to deal withAddickUpNorth said:It’s all very well people saying ‘yeah but Millar and Stockley have come in this window’ but they’re only here for another twenty one games. Doesn’t seem anything to cheer about with such short term thinking. We need to start assembling a team to last us. Maybe we’ll start in the summer.11 -
Just feeling numb now or maybee I'm missing the bigger picture??0
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We will obey..... we will obey.......
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We don't need wingers (Millar will play most of the rest of the season as 10) we need a 10, as good/better/cheaper/younger/fitter than Williams else letting him go was stupid.Croydon said:Have to get some players in, and good ones at that. We need wingers and creativity. We don't need more CMs0 -
Well with what we have when we don't get promoted, we will be absolutely screwed with the wage cap next season.stoneroses19 said:
Difficult to assemble a long term team now though. If we went all out now and built the team of Gallen and Bowyers dreams, then don’t get promoted, we’re absolutely screwed with wage cap next season.AddickUpNorth said:It’s all very well people saying ‘yeah but Millar and Stockley have come in this window’ but they’re only here for another twenty one games. Doesn’t seem anything to cheer about with such short term thinking. We need to start assembling a team to last us. Maybe we’ll start in the summer.I can see why they have gone for more loans at this stage.
We really needed a proper full time signing alongside Schwartz. We've unloaded wantaways, but not brought in any wanttostays.
I can't imagine Schwartz will want to stay come the end of the season if we're not promoted (Not that I've seen anything to say he's better than L1 yet)2 -
Agree that you cannot build a team in January but you can most definitely weaken one.Garrymanilow said:
You can’t really rebuild a team in January unfortunately. Bogle, Maddison and Williams also wouldn’t have been here in the summer either. We’ve at least swapped them for players we’re planning on putting in every week. Hopefully with a full run up in summer we can have a proper rebuild. And hopefully we won’t have a cap to deal withAddickUpNorth said:It’s all very well people saying ‘yeah but Millar and Stockley have come in this window’ but they’re only here for another twenty one games. Doesn’t seem anything to cheer about with such short term thinking. We need to start assembling a team to last us. Maybe we’ll start in the summer.0 -
Have we?Garrymanilow said:
You can’t really rebuild a team in January unfortunately. Bogle, Maddison and Williams also wouldn’t have been here in the summer either. We’ve at least swapped them for players we’re planning on putting in every week. Hopefully with a full run up in summer we can have a proper rebuild. And hopefully we won’t have a cap to deal withAddickUpNorth said:It’s all very well people saying ‘yeah but Millar and Stockley have come in this window’ but they’re only here for another twenty one games. Doesn’t seem anything to cheer about with such short term thinking. We need to start assembling a team to last us. Maybe we’ll start in the summer.
We have 6 loanees. 5 loan spaces in a match day squad... I am certain the cap will be worse next season. It would have been abolished by now if it were a real option.1 - Sponsored links:
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Grayson just been on Radio 5 saying been a very busy 24 since getting the job with many agents ringing him._MrDick said:Cod be relevant....
COD-CLARKE ARMY!
Chris Conn-Clarke has joined Fleetwood Town from Burnley. The 19-year-old had been training with the Cod Army and has now made a permanent move to Highbury.
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I presume you mean because it’ll have been scrapped at the end of the season rather than because we’ve won promotion. If we’re not restricted by it I know which option is more likely.Garrymanilow said:
You can’t really rebuild a team in January unfortunately. Bogle, Maddison and Williams also wouldn’t have been here in the summer either. We’ve at least swapped them for players we’re planning on putting in every week. Hopefully with a full run up in summer we can have a proper rebuild. And hopefully we won’t have a cap to deal withAddickUpNorth said:It’s all very well people saying ‘yeah but Millar and Stockley have come in this window’ but they’re only here for another twenty one games. Doesn’t seem anything to cheer about with such short term thinking. We need to start assembling a team to last us. Maybe we’ll start in the summer.0 -
Been announced a few minutes ago that Fleetwood have signed some kid from Burnley...
Had been training with the club though so guess he's not the signing they're trying to bring in so Morris could leave0 -
Aneke gone Fleetwoodcharlton_hero said:17 -
Fleetwood must've got the winger they wanted then?1
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I'm confident we will rebuild properly this summer. It was all rushed in the last window because of what was going on so to pick up players that would all be a success would of been a big ask. We also don't know what division we will be in (probably League 1) so certain permanent deals might not work in the Championship if we got there. Also, let's hope this ridiculous cap is no longer a factor.Garrymanilow said:
You can’t really rebuild a team in January unfortunately. Bogle, Maddison and Williams also wouldn’t have been here in the summer either. We’ve at least swapped them for players we’re planning on putting in every week. Hopefully with a full run up in summer we can have a proper rebuild. And hopefully we won’t have a cap to deal withAddickUpNorth said:It’s all very well people saying ‘yeah but Millar and Stockley have come in this window’ but they’re only here for another twenty one games. Doesn’t seem anything to cheer about with such short term thinking. We need to start assembling a team to last us. Maybe we’ll start in the summer.
The only thing we can do is have faith things will work out I suppose. I've had enough of being too negative relating to Charlton for the last 5 years.5 -
Maddison didn't want to play and probably wasn't going to play again.J BLOCK said:If we don’t get AT LEAST players on a par with Maddison and Williams then we’ve massively fucked this - right now I’m not at all happy
Williams struggles to play 60 mins.
We've already signed Stockley, Millar, Schwartz and Smith.
I'm certain we're already better off.25 -
It's hard to see how Morris (if he is coming in) fits in with a longer term rebuild. Morris is 29.The Prince-e-Paul said:Age and desire is key. I said it before. Lincoln last season had an average age squad of 31. This season 22. Their manager saw what was needed to compete in League one to beat the old cloggers with ego's. We've had too many players who are too slow and waste time with tippy tappy paces and back to Amos. We need young fit players with a career to carve out. Millar is just what we need to be signing on contracts, not loans. Lincoln managed to get the deals done at well under the salary cap.
Maybe we need to regroup in the summer and have a CP style clear out.
The players we've let go weren't the oldest players either. Maddison and Williams are both 27, while we also sold the likes of Lapslie
Schwartz, Watson and Gunter are all in their 30s. Indeed the youngest player we've bought is Innis and he's 25.2 -
I expect beause it was Bolton who have come out of Administration last season & don't have a pot to piss in. No way could they sign him on a 2 or 3 year contract. I wouldn't be surprised if we were paying a large portion, if not all, of his wages. Bowyer just wanted him out the door......could have been Welling or Woking as far as we were concerned.Sage said:
Unfortunately, looks as though a permanent was not able to be agreed.Ferryman said:
As it's a loan we must still be paying part of his salary.Sage said:Anyone who blames Bowyer for Maddison leaving and not being successful whilst here is fully entitled to your own opinion. However, it’s incredibly difficult to form any kind of opinion when you just don’t understand what has happened behind the scenes.
If and when the story comes out, everyone who has sided with Maddison will wonder what was going through their mind to question the decisions Bowyer makes.
I am not in a position to put a public forum the situation. But what I will say is Maddison does not want to be here anymore and is not committed to the cause. When that is the case, it’s best to get rid. No matter how talented that individual may be with a football at their feet.
I am with Bowyer 100% and all I can say is, good riddance.3
