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January 2021 Transfer Targets (last minute swoop for Jaiyesimi p184 - NOW it's all over.)

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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,956
    edited February 2021
    J BLOCK said:
    J BLOCK said:
    If we don’t get AT LEAST players on a par with Maddison and Williams then we’ve massively fucked this - right now I’m not at all happy 
    Maddison didn't want to play and probably wasn't going to play again.
    Williams struggles to play 60 mins.

    We've already signed Stockley, Millar, Schwartz and Smith.
    I'm certain we're already better off.
    Where’s the creativity coming from in the middle of the park? 
    JFC, Shinnie, Morgan, Smith and (Millar).
  • From a salary cap pov

    Additions
    Schwartz
    Stockley

    Deductions
    Smyth
    Bogle
    Williams
    Maddison
  • From a salary cap pov

    Additions
    Schwartz
    Stockley

    Deductions
    Smyth
    Bogle
    Williams
    Maddison
    Nine players out of Contract in the summer...

    Probably gives us a bit of breathing room to try and ensure some can still be here next year if they want to be
  • Fleetwood didn’t want to sell as they had no replacement, nothing to do with the player turning us down. Could the anti Bowyer brigade  read what’s been reported before blaming it on Bowyer,
    Sounds like something we should have done with Williams no? 
    Yes.  But Williams isn’t a regular starter. He’s not been getting much game time and has the Euros next year. Maybe he wanted to leave. Maybe Bowyer has fulfilled an agreement that if a Championship club came in for him he could go. None of us know. Maybe Smith is his replacement. 
  • I reckon with Williams and Maddison both off the payroll, we now have extra cash to splash.

    I reckon we'll get either Graham or Randall.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Sage said:
    Sage, as someone who wanted Maddison at Cafc years ago your insider information wasn't needed on this occasions.

    It was so patently obvious that MM and Bowyer wasn't going to work within a couple of weeks.; at 27 a very useful lower division player had lost his way totally.

    Marcus Maddison was going to either be a great signing or a complete disaster. I was hoping for the former.

    Sadly it was the latter.
    Needed or not, I shared it because people were getting the wrong end of the stick. Obviously, it wasn’t exactly needed in the end because Cawley tweeted all about it afterwards. The point of the forum is to share information and opinions, be it whole or not, that’s what I done.

    Thanks for sharing and I take your point that some didn't realize how Maddison just wasn't being professional.
  • Fuck me, we've had better deadline days under Roland!!
    But unlike days of Roland, we’ve brought in some quality early on in the window. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,229
    I reckon with Williams and Maddison both off the payroll, we now have extra cash to splash.

    I reckon we'll get either Graham or Randall.
    I don't think we will this late in the day
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,028
    Fleetwood didn’t want to sell as they had no replacement, nothing to do with the player turning us down. Could the anti Bowyer brigade  read what’s been reported before blaming it on Bowyer,
    It is rather silly to let players go before you have replacements sorted.
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  • Going to regret this comment but notice Rich Cawley hasnt thrown the towel in yet with any posts saying thats our night done
  • jakecafc
    jakecafc Posts: 2,065
    I reckon with Williams and Maddison both off the payroll, we now have extra cash to splash.

    I reckon we'll get either Graham or Randall.
    Yeah let's just meet Randall's valuation. Let's be honest no one wants plan Z through the door at 22:59!
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,603
    Let's be honest TS aim of Europe in 8 years is not going to start by signing a L1 journeyman. Would have hoped to have a bit more ambition this window. Its a shit league, we've signed Ronnie who I can't help but feel was signed due to the Danish connection and some more loanees. So no matter what another rebuild is needed in the summer. 

    Keep hearing the cap is killing us, but the cynic in me says maybe we don't have as much money as we thought. 


    One thing that has happened, TS has backed this club to the hills and sorted alot of the background issues and sorted the foundations going forward.

    The cap is the cap, we could have funds like man City but are still governed by the cap unfortunately. 
    Unless you buy someone like Randall who wouldn’t fall into the cap at all.
    Which is why we should have pushed the boat out & paid the fee. There is a premium on players that are under the cap. 
  • Sorry to say, business is done for us. Get an early night and go to bed.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,739
    Just waiting for Cawley to say we’re done for the night before the meltdown properly commences.
  • cafc_se7 said:
    Some of you lot ought to read your own comments....sound like a bunch of 12 year olds! Embarrassing!
    This.
  • I think it's very clear we want a winger, and not to get one is a bit of a failing.

    I do worry what will happen if Millar gets injured. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,343
    Fleetwood didn’t want to sell as they had no replacement, nothing to do with the player turning us down. Could the anti Bowyer brigade  read what’s been reported before blaming it on Bowyer,
    Don't lie... This was the discussion... The voices in my head say this is accurate for all those we approached today...

    Club to Player - "Are you happy here because Charlton have made an offer for you"
    Player - "I mean sure I am happy is Bowyer still there?"
    Club - "Yes, looks like he's made space for you"
    Player - "Erm I've heard how he talks about his creative players"
    Club - "So that's a no?"
    Player - "I didn't say that, unless you don't want me here?"
    Club - "It's a no then, Huzzah, we'll tell them to piss orf, the fee was insulting anyway"
     

  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,445
    edited February 2021
    Super dooper phone is a fu*******g Nokia 3110!
  • Maybe TS has asked Bows realistically who is going to get a game and who isn't. If they don't figure in his plans, get rid now and save money. TS is a businessman not a charity owner. He wants to balance the books in the same way Roly did. It's not just the salary cap, that's guff. TS wants to achieve success in the way the Lincoln owner has. On the cheap. It can be done without huge spends, but maybe not with Bowyer or the players we have. I want Bowyer here long term, but his tactics with the players of the last 18 months doesn't achieve enough success. If Bowyer is staying, the players aren't!
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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,343
    Fuck me, we've had better deadline days under Roland!!
    But unlike days of Roland, we’ve brought in some quality early on in the window. 
    This is very true. Perspective. 
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,254
    cafc_se7 said:
    Got a feeling this is just the beginning for a large part of the squad

    Maddison especially going to Bolton will be a big message to the players that remain

    Perform and represent the club to the standards we expect or we'll shed no tears about getting rid of you in the summer
    Or to look at an alternative

    Outgoings /possible outgoings in the window:

    Bogle Nowhere near good enough but has suffered from Bowyers put downs in the media when Bowyer must have known what he was getting when he signed him.

    Smyth Recalled by QPR

    Doughty Refused a new contract

    Maddison Criticised by Bowyer in the media the worst being "I don't care if he's seriously injured" 

    Williams Criticised by Bowyer in the media (praised as well at times) Rarely picked even when we're crying out for creativity & even as a sub when he's played well straight back on the bench next game. Wants to go to Cardiff

    Last year
    M.Bonne Brought from Non league, leading scorer for us in Championship but still criticised by Bowyer in the media.

    Maybe some players aren't playing for him & can't wait to get out, possibly his man management skills leave a lot to be desired. Criticise players when needed but do it behind closed doors not on sky sports /newspapers. 
    So what are you getting at? In an ideal world what would you do? And let’s be frank who would you bring in to replace Bow?
    I think my last paragraph gives you some idea. In an ideal word I wouldn't be slagging players off in the media if I was Bowyer. Replace Bowyer ? Well there are better qualified people available who will make that decision as & when but why ask me when I haven't suggested such ?
  • se9addick said:
    Fleetwood didn’t want to sell as they had no replacement, nothing to do with the player turning us down. Could the anti Bowyer brigade  read what’s been reported before blaming it on Bowyer,
    It is rather silly to let players go before you have replacements sorted.
    A replacement for a player that spends a hell of a lot of time on the bench?
    I share the respect for Williams on and off the pitch but I can’t see that him leaving is a devastating blow. Is Smith a potential replacement?
  • cafc_se7
    cafc_se7 Posts: 2,271
    The thing that pains me about losing Jonny is the influence he undoubtedly had in the dressing room. He is obviously a very likeable guy and very popular amongst the players! You do wonder what this may do to morale in the camp! Nothing to do with assists, goals etc 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,603
    Swisdom said:
    Let's be honest TS aim of Europe in 8 years is not going to start by signing a L1 journeyman. Would have hoped to have a bit more ambition this window. Its a shit league, we've signed Ronnie who I can't help but feel was signed due to the Danish connection and some more loanees. So no matter what another rebuild is needed in the summer. 

    Keep hearing the cap is killing us, but the cynic in me says maybe we don't have as much money as we thought. 


    One thing that has happened, TS has backed this club 



    preparing for a rebuild in the summer.
    Oh goody......yet another summer rebuild.
     Should be used to it after the last 6 or 7 seasons.
  • Mods - can we outlaw CL transfer window threads please - they just make us all miserable 
  • Reddit crew now in spoofing Randall up,  worth £10m apparently ,  so wont be able to get him in
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,254
    I think it's very clear we want a winger, and not to get one is a bit of a failing.

    I do worry what will happen if Millar gets injured. 
    Oshilaja is ready 
  • I think it's very clear we want a winger, and not to get one is a bit of a failing.

    I do worry what will happen if Millar gets injured. 
    we play the diamond formation 
  • RC_CAFC
    RC_CAFC Posts: 1,754
    Right come on Cawley, can I go to bed for the night or do I have to endure more of ‘we were nearly there’?

    for what it’s worth I still believe we’re in a better place as a cohesive squad now than at the start of January.