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January 2021 Transfer Targets (last minute swoop for Jaiyesimi p184 - NOW it's all over.)

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  • CDM 
    Smith/Pratley/Watson

    CM 
    Shinnie/Morgan
    F.Caskey/Gilbey

    CAM 
    Millar/Maddison

    Doesn't look too bad like that. 
  • Dazzler21 said:
    CDM 
    Smith/Pratley/Watson

    CM 
    Shinnie/Morgan
    F.Caskey/Gilbey

    CAM 
    Millar/Williams

    Would have been better. 

  • Cafc43v3r said:
    mart77 said:
    Well Bows and Gallen said they were trying to shuffle the pack in this window and it’s good to see that they’re making the tough calls. I see Will Grigg is being linked with Mk Dons so that may free up space if they want Maddison. Would be a hugely risky move as if he settles he could fly them up the table.
    Grigg looked to have a lot to offer Sunderland for league 1 and has been an absolute failure. 5 goals in 3 seasons for £4m!
    Remember the melt down that they signed Grigg and we ended up with Parker........... 
    I think Grigg would have done ok next to Taylor though. The cost was mental mind, not worth that 
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    CDM 
    Smith/Pratley/Watson

    CM 
    Shinnie/Morgan
    F.Caskey/Gilbey

    CAM 
    Millar/Williams

    Would have been better. 

    Maddison is a better player than Williams is
    What time is his move to a championship club being announced? 
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    CDM 
    Smith/Pratley/Watson

    CM 
    Shinnie/Morgan
    F.Caskey/Gilbey

    CAM 
    Millar/Williams

    Would have been better. 

    Maddison is a better player than Williams is
    Is he? - Would certainly argue Williams is a better player in the dressing room
  • Dazzler21 said:
    CDM 
    Smith/Pratley/Watson

    CM 
    Shinnie/Morgan
    F.Caskey/Gilbey

    CAM 
    Millar/Maddison

    Doesn't look too bad like that. 
    Don't believe Smith is a cdm. Think he is more attacking than that.
  • Can’t see Chuks moving due to his awful injury record and the fact he can’t complete 90 minutes, very risky suppose clubs will take a punt if he becomes a free agent. 
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  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    CDM 
    Smith/Pratley/Watson

    CM 
    Shinnie/Morgan
    F.Caskey/Gilbey

    CAM 
    Millar/Williams

    Would have been better. 

    Maddison is a better player than Williams is
    What time is his move to a championship club being announced? 
    Stupid way to judge a player

    We all know Chuks is better than Bonne but who's the one playing in the championship
    But we all know why Chuks isn't. 

    Why has Maddison had one loan spell in the championship, that by any metric, was an absolute disaster, yet Williams is about to sign for a championship club for the 7th time?

    All those managers can't be wrong can they? 
  • edited February 2021
    mart77 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    mart77 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    mart77 said:
    sam3110 said:
    Bogle, Lapslie, Doughty, Smyth, Williams(?) Oztumer(?) out
    Stockley, Smith, Millar, Schwartz, Kirk(?) in.... Is that a good window overall
    I’d have liked one more youngster on a perm but those changes have to be a big upgrade.
    Yep, good window for me. Shame Bowyer can't work with either Williams or Oztumer as they've done well it at this level previously, but Kirk seems to be a decent upgrade option given his age. 
    I also really like how Kirk has played 120 games in 2 and a half seasons which I’d guess is similar to JW anc Ozzy combined
    Williams/Ozzy 113
    Kirk 119
    And he’s much younger. Really liking the small green shoots I’m seeing. Hungry, young squad needs to be where we are heading with a long term plan beyond whatever happens this season.
    Just checked his stats. 25 goals and 30 assists in 119 games, vs 5 and 9 in 113 for the Ozzilliams pair. 

    Obviously different levels played, but seems an exciting prospect, which I am in every doubt we'll get done! :lol:

  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    CDM 
    Smith/Pratley/Watson

    CM 
    Shinnie/Morgan
    F.Caskey/Gilbey

    CAM 
    Millar/Williams

    Would have been better. 

    Maddison is a better player than Williams is
    What time is his move to a championship club being announced? 
    Stupid way to judge a player

    We all know Chuks is better than Bonne but who's the one playing in the championship
    But we all know why Chuks isn't. 

    Why has Maddison had one loan spell in the championship, that by any metric, was an absolute disaster, yet Williams is about to sign for a championship club for the 7th time?

    All those managers can't be wrong can they? 
    7th is a slight exaggeration, but your point is valid. His career has been going backwards though, he can’t get into a League 1 team currently. 
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    mart77 said:
    Well Bows and Gallen said they were trying to shuffle the pack in this window and it’s good to see that they’re making the tough calls. I see Will Grigg is being linked with Mk Dons so that may free up space if they want Maddison. Would be a hugely risky move as if he settles he could fly them up the table.
    Grigg looked to have a lot to offer Sunderland for league 1 and has been an absolute failure. 5 goals in 3 seasons for £4m!
    Remember the melt down that they signed Grigg and we ended up with Parker........... 
    Yes, but Bowyer would have turned Will Grigg into Lewandowski. 
  • edited February 2021
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    CDM 
    Smith/Pratley/Watson

    CM 
    Shinnie/Morgan
    F.Caskey/Gilbey

    CAM 
    Millar/Williams

    Would have been better. 

    Maddison is a better player than Williams is
    Is he? - Would certainly argue Williams is a better player in the dressing room
    Sadly the games are played on the pitch no matter what people think, though a happy dressing room is a big plus. 

    Get Jim Davison in before each match. He would do it for free. 
    Like the post above though... Williams is going back to the Championship yet again though, Maddison has played a handful of games

    Funny how the Managers keep getting that one wrong
  • Dazzler21 said:
    mart77 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    mart77 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    mart77 said:
    sam3110 said:
    Bogle, Lapslie, Doughty, Smyth, Williams(?) Oztumer(?) out
    Stockley, Smith, Millar, Schwartz, Kirk(?) in.... Is that a good window overall
    I’d have liked one more youngster on a perm but those changes have to be a big upgrade.
    Yep, good window for me. Shame Bowyer can't work with either Williams or Oztumer as they've done well it at this level previously, but Kirk seems to be a decent upgrade option given his age. 
    I also really like how Kirk has played 120 games in 2 and a half seasons which I’d guess is similar to JW anc Ozzy combined
    Williams/Ozzy 113
    Kirk 119
    And he’s much younger. Really liking the small green shoots I’m seeing. Hungry, young squad needs to be where we are heading with a long term plan beyond whatever happens this season.
    Just checked his stats. 25 goals and 30 assists in 119 games, vs 5 and 9 in 113 for the Ozzilliams pair. 

    Obviously different levels played, but seems an exciting prospect, which I am in every doubt we'll get done! :lol:

    Different levels but like you say, exciting. 
  • RC_CAFC said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    CDM 
    Smith/Pratley/Watson

    CM 
    Shinnie/Morgan
    F.Caskey/Gilbey

    CAM 
    Millar/Maddison

    Doesn't look too bad like that. 
    Don't believe Smith is a cdm. Think he is more attacking than that. 
    Quite right I misread where he's played. He's played twice at CDM and scored one of his goals there as well as winning that game 3-1. they lost the other 2-0 against Blackpool... Maybe don't play him there!
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    CDM 
    Smith/Pratley/Watson

    CM 
    Shinnie/Morgan
    F.Caskey/Gilbey

    CAM 
    Millar/Williams

    Would have been better. 

    Maddison is a better player than Williams is
    What time is his move to a championship club being announced? 
    Stupid way to judge a player

    We all know Chuks is better than Bonne but who's the one playing in the championship
    But we all know why Chuks isn't. 

    Why has Maddison had one loan spell in the championship, that by any metric, was an absolute disaster, yet Williams is about to sign for a championship club for the 7th time?

    All those managers can't be wrong can they? 
    7th is a slight exaggeration, but your point is valid. His career has been going backwards though, he can’t get into a League 1 team currently. 
    Yes 7 is wrong, it would actually be the 8th. That doesn't include Palace. 

    He can't be going backwards, Bowyer said we improved him :wink:


  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    CDM 
    Smith/Pratley/Watson

    CM 
    Shinnie/Morgan
    F.Caskey/Gilbey

    CAM 
    Millar/Williams

    Would have been better. 

    Maddison is a better player than Williams is
    Is he? - Would certainly argue Williams is a better player in the dressing room
    Stalker.

    Maddy always gets the right pizzas delivered.
  • For what it's worth I do think Maddison has been overlooked by Championship managers. I'm not speculating on whether that's due to his character (which it may be), but on the pitch he impacts games more than Williams does.

    Here's Williams performance in the championship

    11/12 - 14 apps, G:0, A:2
    12/13 - 29 apps, G:0, A:1
    13/14 - 13 apps, G:1, A:1
    14/15 - 7 apps, G:1, A:0
    15/16 - 10 apps, G:0, A:0
    16/17 - 8 apps, G:0, A:0
    17/18 - 12 apps, G:1, A:0
    19/20 - 26 apps, G:0, A:5

    Obviously Maddison has only played 7 championship games but every single year in league one he's scored more and assisted more than Williams has in all his championship seasons put together

    Maybe Mick McCarthy wants a player he can bring on 75 mins into a game to win some free kicks
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  • Anyone heard anymore on Kirk? Has the bid been accepted or have we moved on?
  • RedRobin said:
    Anyone heard anymore on Kirk? Has the bid been accepted or have we moved on?
    Just spoke to a mate who’s a Crewe fan and no updates from there side that he’s heard. 
  • J BLOCK said:
    Gilbey has been the most disappointing player this season for me. Pony. 
    Shouldn't have been rushed back from injury so quickly, but Shinnie was out injured at the time.


  • edited February 2021
    RedRobin said:
    Anyone heard anymore on Kirk? Has the bid been accepted or have we moved on?

    The fact we have not heard anything to me suggest its still in play being worked on. 
    Probably doesnt help given the fact it could well take him about 4-hours to get down to Sparrows Lane

    Of course he doesnt need to be down here for the deal to be announced but given there is plenty of time left in the day, it could be a factor
  • I presume Kirk is lower on the wanted list than Randall was? That's how I believe Gallen and Bowyer work, have a list of players for a position, start at the top and enquire about them, and work down from there
  • Kirk in and maybe one out on loan is all I expect from now on.

    I’d be happy with the window if that’s how it finishes
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    CDM 
    Smith/Pratley/Watson

    CM 
    Shinnie/Morgan
    F.Caskey/Gilbey

    CAM 
    Millar/Williams

    Would have been better. 

    Maddison is a better player than Williams is
    What time is his move to a championship club being announced? 
    Stupid way to judge a player

    We all know Chuks is better than Bonne but who's the one playing in the championship
    But we all know why Chuks isn't. 

    Why has Maddison had one loan spell in the championship, that by any metric, was an absolute disaster, yet Williams is about to sign for a championship club for the 7th time?

    All those managers can't be wrong can they? 
    7th is a slight exaggeration, but your point is valid. His career has been going backwards though, he can’t get into a League 1 team currently. 
    Yes 7 is wrong, it would actually be the 8th. That doesn't include Palace. 

    He can't be going backwards, Bowyer said we improved him :wink:


    No it will be the 6th time he signs for a different Championship club (not counting Ipswich as he rejoined them in 2014). Ipswich, Forest, MK Dons, Ipswich again, Sunderland and now Cardiff. Played about 65 times in those spells, scoring 3 goals. He's not done particularly well. 
  • RedRobin said:
    Anyone heard anymore on Kirk? Has the bid been accepted or have we moved on?
    I’d add that until JW at least is confirmed as done, we’ll hold fire on announcing any deals
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