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January 2021 Transfer Targets (last minute swoop for Jaiyesimi p184 - NOW it's all over.)

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  • Valley11 said:
    The window slams shuts on Monday 1st February at 11pm incidentally
    Slams shut or sort of shuffles a bit, stops, slips then stops again like an old sash window?

    The Jim White ‘slams shut’ deadline day extravaganza is so anti climactic 
    Will be quite amusing seeing them trying to dramatise deadline day this year, even though Premier league clubs combined have lost hundreds of millions since Covid and most won't be spending anything, and will mostly probably just be trying to loan out some dead wood.
  • Why you still comparing bogle to Aneke. Bogle is going. 
    You need to compare Aneke to Stockley now   Stockley will replace bogle as scapegoat now because he won’t score as many goals. 😀
    Really can’t understand why so many of you having orgasms Over Aneke. 

    You sound upset that some posters rate Aneke, our top scorer with highest minutes per goal in the entire league, this isn’t orgasms just opinions based on factual information.  
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    Not sure but I think that could be Sunset Boulevard
  • Oh forgot kermagant how could I 
    worth a orgasm 🤪
    Yann scored 12 (plus 4 in the cup) in our 101 season, Chuks has 10 already only half way through the season. 

    The question of why is everyone so positive about Aneke is because he is currently the best we have and he is statisticly one of the best strikers in our league. Last year he couldn't get on the pitch because of injuries and purple were saying 'let him go'/stealing a living/L2 at best.

    This year with a different fitness regime he has already contributed more minutes/goals and impact on our team. He also causes more problems for opposition defenders with his power, pace and directness because he generally plays 'facing the goal', whereas Bogle generally plays with his back to goal so will always be more of a threat than Bogle. 

    People questioned whether or not Lyle Taylor was Championship quality, he showed with the team setup right to play to his strengths that he was. The team is setup more for Aneke to perform to his strengths than Bogle (I'm concerned we don't get enough crosses in for Stockley to really do well too!). BWP didn't perform in the Championship, and his MLS success is down to the standard not being as good as the Championship. 


  • DOUCHER said:
    Stockley looked good - an out and out target man / aerial threat - a specialist - chucks is a bit more of an all rounder and will go past players but definitely 1 or other needs to be on the pitch for that physical presence and i think Curbs was onto something, suggesting they both play.  That could be a good shout - once Stockley is fully match fit, he can play the full game and Chucks and Schwarz can rotate. Be a right handful with them 2 up top.
    Would really like to see Stockley, Chuks and Ronnie upfront together...
  • 995632 said:
    DOUCHER said:
    Stockley looked good - an out and out target man / aerial threat - a specialist - chucks is a bit more of an all rounder and will go past players but definitely 1 or other needs to be on the pitch for that physical presence and i think Curbs was onto something, suggesting they both play.  That could be a good shout - once Stockley is fully match fit, he can play the full game and Chucks and Schwarz can rotate. Be a right handful with them 2 up top.
    Would really like to see Stockley, Chuks and Ronnie upfront together...
    Me too. 

    Front 3 but with Aneke dropping off to drive at them. So almost like a 10 or false 9 or whatever rather than one striker and two wide. That potentially sacrifices Millar though who is mega important for us at the minute 
  • I can understand people saying bogle is not up to it and not good enough but what I can’t understand is how people think Aneke is a world beater. 
    His the most inconsistent player I’ve ever seen I think. Did he even touch the ball last night
    The last 2 games his come on as sub I don’t think his managed to get anywhere near most of our long balls out of deference. You need to a least challenge the defender. Bogle still done this  and was when he got dragged of early. But twice now Aneke has done it and nothing is said. 
    How people think his good enough to play in championship is beyond me. 
     the best minutes per goal ratio in the entire league one. 
    I think simms might be beating him now
  • I thought Bogle looked the best he has looked in his last two appearances. It is clear that confidence was a factor in some admittedly poor performances and it is for the best he goes. I'd rather he not go to a promotion rival though as I think he is better than many say. I have been a Charlton fan long enough to know he will score against us later in the season!
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  • RedChaser said:
    Any targets / rumours 🤔
    Bogle apparently 
  • LTKapal said:
    I can understand people saying bogle is not up to it and not good enough but what I can’t understand is how people think Aneke is a world beater. 
    His the most inconsistent player I’ve ever seen I think. Did he even touch the ball last night
    The last 2 games his come on as sub I don’t think his managed to get anywhere near most of our long balls out of deference. You need to a least challenge the defender. Bogle still done this  and was when he got dragged of early. But twice now Aneke has done it and nothing is said. 
    How people think his good enough to play in championship is beyond me. 
     the best minutes per goal ratio in the entire league one. 
    I think simms might be beating him now
    Who was the poster on here who suggested we go for Simms, think he even said he suggested him to Gallen.

    Simms comes on for his league debut and scores twice in 20 minutes.
  • LTKapal said:
    I can understand people saying bogle is not up to it and not good enough but what I can’t understand is how people think Aneke is a world beater. 
    His the most inconsistent player I’ve ever seen I think. Did he even touch the ball last night
    The last 2 games his come on as sub I don’t think his managed to get anywhere near most of our long balls out of deference. You need to a least challenge the defender. Bogle still done this  and was when he got dragged of early. But twice now Aneke has done it and nothing is said. 
    How people think his good enough to play in championship is beyond me. 
     the best minutes per goal ratio in the entire league one. 
    I think simms might be beating him now
    Who was the poster on here who suggested we go for Simms, think he even said he suggested him to Gallen.

    Simms comes on for his league debut and scores twice in 20 minutes.
    @Sage. Certainly a great start although early days, I think I could have come on and scored against Wigan last night. 
  • edited January 2021
    AndyG said:
    I'm one of the few that actually think he did ok for us. He needed a bit of confidence and you can bet your bottom dollar that he will score goals once he has gone, probably against us lol

    Hard to argue he's done well overall but he's certainly been decent in patches, and there are definitely valid arguments to be made as to why he's not been more of a success not being purely down to his own lack of ability or application. I would certainly say that he's been nowhere near as bad as some of the hyperbole on here and twitter would suggest.

    With Aneke and Stockley around he's third choice in the target man role, so if we need to free up wages there are probably areas of the squad with less depth that the wages could be better spent on reinforcing. That being said, as I stated elsewhere on here, he ain't bad for a third choice at League 1 level and with Chuks so injury prone I'd ideally prefer to keep Bogle around as backup. It's been a persistent problem that we've had two players for every position but one of them is always injured meaning the other one has to play too many matches and will eventually break down themselves. We're constantly chasing our tails trying to get everyone fit and I worry that could happen with Chuks and Stockley if one of them goes out injured. I can't see a front two of Washington and Schwartz working well at all with no one to hold the ball up and bring the midfield into play.


    I tend to agree with you about Omar Bogle.  Even when he was fouled by the keeper against Swindon he managed to scored but was pilloried because  he did .
    Chuks missed a sitter against Swindon and nobody said a word against  him and it was a sitter .
    You mention bogles goal against Swindon but what did he do 5 minutes later?

    all strikers miss chances, fact.

    the reason that bogle gets criticised is because he misses lots of chances two score two goals. Snake scores often. 
    As I said he misses one and it ain't forgotten.  Aneke misses or does very little like tonight and you forgive him. I think you reinforce bias to suit your view. Bogle is not the best but he is not as bad as people on here think either  Aneke has to be stored in bubble wrap at the end of each game which is worrying. 
    The problem is he hasn’t missed one has he? Bristol rovers, remember that miss? Earlier in the season he was through on goal and turned back. Aneke misses chances because he gets in dangerous positions. Bogle wouldn’t have attacked the ball against Swindon or rochdale like Aneke did.

    But aren’t you reinforcing bias for bogle to suit your view?

    Aneke is being managed very well this season. Aneke didn’t have the greatest of games but he came on when we were camped in our own half. 

    He broke away once and was hacked. He also broke down the right late on, lost the ball, won it back and got us a throw to relieve the pressure.

    what did Aneke do wrong tonight?

    would you have bogle in the team ahead of Aneke.
    Bowyer often had Bogle on before Aneke. He even said he wears CBS out for Aneke. I thought we lost something when Washington went off. That is another one whi gets slated. Tonight someone said on player markings , " What did Washington do apart from one cross". Silly statement. 

    As for what did Aneke do wrong..? It is more a matter of what little he did because  he isn't defensive minded or effective there. 

    Bogle was fine last game and I think he is a confidence player. Fans on his back is no good carping about everything.  He won the penalty at Gillingham  that Washington missed. 

    If he leaves he will do well.  Doncaster appesr torate him.and their team is better than ours. Strange that. 
    Could it also be that Doncaster are interested in Bogle because as the old argument goes on here, what goalscorer do we expect to bring in under the wage cap? Who can we pick up to score 12 goals between now and the end of the season within the wage cap? You can guarantee those who oppose the cap are all thinking this along with those who voted for it and need a striker, most teams in this league will fall into those two categories.

    Having signed Bogle in the summer teams will know he is on a salary within the wage cap and is therefore affordable if they have room to sign him.

    A gamble? Maybe. Not guaranteed a first team start? Probably. Scraping the barrel even? It happens and it did with Josh Parker so the same can apply to Bogle and whoever signs him.

    I can see how Bogle will be attractive to other teams it doesn't mean we're making a mistake and if it works out for him elsewhere fair play and good luck to him.
    Very true. However Josh Parker did everything but score. At Doncaster in the play off semi final he had a good goal disallowed and hit the post. People  moaned but he did contribute. 
    Some fans looked at Parker's stats ...... and declared him useless.
    After all, he wasn't a natural striker or fox in the box.

    But normally you have to watch the games and see what he does off the ball and on. 
    Then you can appreciate his contribution.

    His manager did ........ no chance would he have been picked to start otherwise.
    Bowyer even played him for 95 minutes at Wembley.

    What does that tell you?

  • Cafc43v3r said:
    aneke is big, strong and mobile. Bogle is big strong and immobile.

    anekes being mobile allows him to run at defenders which scares them. Not only does him running at goal create chances for himself, but also others. Schwartz v rochdale springs to mind. Snake running at defenders caused a hack last nigh. He also came back to help the defenders last night abs was carrying the ball forward when the whistle went.

    bigle plays more back to goal which means the ball goes back rather than forward. The problem is that the ball often goes back to a different colour shirt. Bogle creates very few chances for himself or others in comparison to Aneke.

    Bogle has only scored 20% of the goals that Aneke has. I’m not sure of the minutes played by both but I would it is relatively even.

    Aneke looks like he will create or score most times he is on the pitch. Bogle doesn’t.

    when bogle leaves, I will not lose sleep. He is another kandol, sodje and abbot. People defend him because he is a Charlton player and I get that, he just isn’t a very good Charlton player. 
    Neither Bogle nor Aneke are naturally target men like say a Stockley.  Despite their physical appearance.  Chuks is a better target man than Bogle but that's still not his best position.  They would both look better playing with Stockley.  In fact there is no reason at all why you couldn't play all 3 together.  
    Good point.  Curbishley said as much in the post match interview. 
    I don’t think Curbishley suggested playing all three in a match, although he did suggest playing both Stockley and Chucks up front together Saturday if the Portsmouth players were as big as what was being said. 

    I think that could be a good idea if Chucks can do the 90minutes as are games after are Saturdays (no midweeks).

    Expect Pearce to come back in as well.
  • Redrobo said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    aneke is big, strong and mobile. Bogle is big strong and immobile.

    anekes being mobile allows him to run at defenders which scares them. Not only does him running at goal create chances for himself, but also others. Schwartz v rochdale springs to mind. Snake running at defenders caused a hack last nigh. He also came back to help the defenders last night abs was carrying the ball forward when the whistle went.

    bigle plays more back to goal which means the ball goes back rather than forward. The problem is that the ball often goes back to a different colour shirt. Bogle creates very few chances for himself or others in comparison to Aneke.

    Bogle has only scored 20% of the goals that Aneke has. I’m not sure of the minutes played by both but I would it is relatively even.

    Aneke looks like he will create or score most times he is on the pitch. Bogle doesn’t.

    when bogle leaves, I will not lose sleep. He is another kandol, sodje and abbot. People defend him because he is a Charlton player and I get that, he just isn’t a very good Charlton player. 
    Neither Bogle nor Aneke are naturally target men like say a Stockley.  Despite their physical appearance.  Chuks is a better target man than Bogle but that's still not his best position.  They would both look better playing with Stockley.  In fact there is no reason at all why you couldn't play all 3 together.  
    Good point.  Curbishley said as much in the post match interview. 
    I don’t think Curbishley suggested playing all three in a match, although he did suggest playing both Stockley and Chucks up front together Saturday if the Portsmouth players were as big as what was being said. 

    I think that could be a good idea if Chucks can do the 90minutes as are games after are Saturdays (no midweeks).

    Expect Pearce to come back in as well.
    Chucks & Stockley would be an interesting, physical partnership,  but neither have 90 minutes in the tank yet and we couldn't do a like for like substitution. 

    Also Washington has a calf injury not expecting him to play Saturday. 

    I can't see Watson fitting a high energy press out of possession  where we move the ball quickly in possession either, and that is feature of our recent improvement. 
  • Ferryman said:
    Redrobo said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    aneke is big, strong and mobile. Bogle is big strong and immobile.

    anekes being mobile allows him to run at defenders which scares them. Not only does him running at goal create chances for himself, but also others. Schwartz v rochdale springs to mind. Snake running at defenders caused a hack last nigh. He also came back to help the defenders last night abs was carrying the ball forward when the whistle went.

    bigle plays more back to goal which means the ball goes back rather than forward. The problem is that the ball often goes back to a different colour shirt. Bogle creates very few chances for himself or others in comparison to Aneke.

    Bogle has only scored 20% of the goals that Aneke has. I’m not sure of the minutes played by both but I would it is relatively even.

    Aneke looks like he will create or score most times he is on the pitch. Bogle doesn’t.

    when bogle leaves, I will not lose sleep. He is another kandol, sodje and abbot. People defend him because he is a Charlton player and I get that, he just isn’t a very good Charlton player. 
    Neither Bogle nor Aneke are naturally target men like say a Stockley.  Despite their physical appearance.  Chuks is a better target man than Bogle but that's still not his best position.  They would both look better playing with Stockley.  In fact there is no reason at all why you couldn't play all 3 together.  
    Good point.  Curbishley said as much in the post match interview. 
    I don’t think Curbishley suggested playing all three in a match, although he did suggest playing both Stockley and Chucks up front together Saturday if the Portsmouth players were as big as what was being said. 

    I think that could be a good idea if Chucks can do the 90minutes as are games after are Saturdays (no midweeks).

    Expect Pearce to come back in as well.
    Chucks & Stockley would be an interesting, physical partnership,  but neither have 90 minutes in the tank yet and we couldn't do a like for like substitution. 

    Also Washington has a calf injury not expecting him to play Saturday. 

    I can't see Watson fitting a high energy press out of possession  where we move the ball quickly in possession either, and that is feature of our recent improvement. 
    I did say IF Chucks can do the 90, and he has done recently. Schwartz to come on for Stockley.
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  • LTKapal said:
    I can understand people saying bogle is not up to it and not good enough but what I can’t understand is how people think Aneke is a world beater. 
    His the most inconsistent player I’ve ever seen I think. Did he even touch the ball last night
    The last 2 games his come on as sub I don’t think his managed to get anywhere near most of our long balls out of deference. You need to a least challenge the defender. Bogle still done this  and was when he got dragged of early. But twice now Aneke has done it and nothing is said. 
    How people think his good enough to play in championship is beyond me. 
     the best minutes per goal ratio in the entire league one. 
    I think simms might be beating him now
    Who was the poster on here who suggested we go for Simms, think he even said he suggested him to Gallen.

    Simms comes on for his league debut and scores twice in 20 minutes.
    @Sage. Certainly a great start although early days, I think I could have come on and scored against Wigan last night. 
    Fair play to him, give that man a scouting job.
  • Oggy Red said:
    AndyG said:
    I'm one of the few that actually think he did ok for us. He needed a bit of confidence and you can bet your bottom dollar that he will score goals once he has gone, probably against us lol

    Hard to argue he's done well overall but he's certainly been decent in patches, and there are definitely valid arguments to be made as to why he's not been more of a success not being purely down to his own lack of ability or application. I would certainly say that he's been nowhere near as bad as some of the hyperbole on here and twitter would suggest.

    With Aneke and Stockley around he's third choice in the target man role, so if we need to free up wages there are probably areas of the squad with less depth that the wages could be better spent on reinforcing. That being said, as I stated elsewhere on here, he ain't bad for a third choice at League 1 level and with Chuks so injury prone I'd ideally prefer to keep Bogle around as backup. It's been a persistent problem that we've had two players for every position but one of them is always injured meaning the other one has to play too many matches and will eventually break down themselves. We're constantly chasing our tails trying to get everyone fit and I worry that could happen with Chuks and Stockley if one of them goes out injured. I can't see a front two of Washington and Schwartz working well at all with no one to hold the ball up and bring the midfield into play.


    I tend to agree with you about Omar Bogle.  Even when he was fouled by the keeper against Swindon he managed to scored but was pilloried because  he did .
    Chuks missed a sitter against Swindon and nobody said a word against  him and it was a sitter .
    You mention bogles goal against Swindon but what did he do 5 minutes later?

    all strikers miss chances, fact.

    the reason that bogle gets criticised is because he misses lots of chances two score two goals. Snake scores often. 
    As I said he misses one and it ain't forgotten.  Aneke misses or does very little like tonight and you forgive him. I think you reinforce bias to suit your view. Bogle is not the best but he is not as bad as people on here think either  Aneke has to be stored in bubble wrap at the end of each game which is worrying. 
    The problem is he hasn’t missed one has he? Bristol rovers, remember that miss? Earlier in the season he was through on goal and turned back. Aneke misses chances because he gets in dangerous positions. Bogle wouldn’t have attacked the ball against Swindon or rochdale like Aneke did.

    But aren’t you reinforcing bias for bogle to suit your view?

    Aneke is being managed very well this season. Aneke didn’t have the greatest of games but he came on when we were camped in our own half. 

    He broke away once and was hacked. He also broke down the right late on, lost the ball, won it back and got us a throw to relieve the pressure.

    what did Aneke do wrong tonight?

    would you have bogle in the team ahead of Aneke.
    Bowyer often had Bogle on before Aneke. He even said he wears CBS out for Aneke. I thought we lost something when Washington went off. That is another one whi gets slated. Tonight someone said on player markings , " What did Washington do apart from one cross". Silly statement. 

    As for what did Aneke do wrong..? It is more a matter of what little he did because  he isn't defensive minded or effective there. 

    Bogle was fine last game and I think he is a confidence player. Fans on his back is no good carping about everything.  He won the penalty at Gillingham  that Washington missed. 

    If he leaves he will do well.  Doncaster appesr torate him.and their team is better than ours. Strange that. 
    Could it also be that Doncaster are interested in Bogle because as the old argument goes on here, what goalscorer do we expect to bring in under the wage cap? Who can we pick up to score 12 goals between now and the end of the season within the wage cap? You can guarantee those who oppose the cap are all thinking this along with those who voted for it and need a striker, most teams in this league will fall into those two categories.

    Having signed Bogle in the summer teams will know he is on a salary within the wage cap and is therefore affordable if they have room to sign him.

    A gamble? Maybe. Not guaranteed a first team start? Probably. Scraping the barrel even? It happens and it did with Josh Parker so the same can apply to Bogle and whoever signs him.

    I can see how Bogle will be attractive to other teams it doesn't mean we're making a mistake and if it works out for him elsewhere fair play and good luck to him.
    Very true. However Josh Parker did everything but score. At Doncaster in the play off semi final he had a good goal disallowed and hit the post. People  moaned but he did contribute. 
    Some fans looked at Parker's stats ...... and declared him useless.
    After all, he wasn't a natural striker or fox in the box.

    But normally you have to watch the games and see what he does off the ball and on. 
    Then you can appreciate his contribution.

    His manager did ........ no chance would he have been picked to start otherwise.
    Bowyer even played him for 95 minutes at Wembley.

    What does that tell you?

    Vetokele was injured
    And you're right, he was not deemed quite fit enough to be part of the Wembley match day squad.
    But then that was the story of much of Vetokele's season.

    Even so, if Bowyer hadn't trusted Parker to do the job, he wouldn't have used him.

  • Laddick01 said:
    To be fair Parker was actually pretty decent at Wembley. If that flick between the legs had gone in it would’ve been a special goal.

    Also won us the free kick (which he probably had no right to win) in the 94th minute that we played from and scored from. 

    He definitely wasn’t prolific but he certainly tried and did help the team, which is what we needed.
    My vetokele comment above was a joke. Veteokele had just hit form when he got injured and I was nervous that Parker had to play potentially 3 play off games. He did well and deserves credit.

    im still convinced that if he had given him a 2 year deal, he still wouldnt have scored 
  • Igor has got 5 goals in 15 games for Westerlo this season in Belgian 2nd Tier. Good for him, injuries just killed his career for us after a promising start.
  • Laddick01 said:
    To be fair Parker was actually pretty decent at Wembley. If that flick between the legs had gone in it would’ve been a special goal.

    Also won us the free kick (which he probably had no right to win) in the 94th minute that we played from and scored from. 

    He definitely wasn’t prolific but he certainly tried and did help the team, which is what we needed.
    My vetokele comment above was a joke. Veteokele had just hit form when he got injured and I was nervous that Parker had to play potentially 3 play off games. He did well and deserves credit.

    im still convinced that if he had given him a 2 year deal, he still wouldnt have scored 
    Other than one goal in the Checkatrade last season, Parker failed to score at both Charlton and Wycombe...
  • Laddick01 said:
    To be fair Parker was actually pretty decent at Wembley. If that flick between the legs had gone in it would’ve been a special goal.

    Also won us the free kick (which he probably had no right to win) in the 94th minute that we played from and scored from. 

    He definitely wasn’t prolific but he certainly tried and did help the team, which is what we needed.
    My vetokele comment above was a joke. Veteokele had just hit form when he got injured and I was nervous that Parker had to play potentially 3 play off games. He did well and deserves credit.

    im still convinced that if he had given him a 2 year deal, he still wouldnt have scored 
    Other than one goal in the Checkatrade last season, Parker failed to score at both Charlton and Wycombe...
    Parker was shit, bogle is 100% a better player all round, we were spoilt with grant and Taylor and that is why the bar is so high, imo
  • CAFCDAZ said:
    Laddick01 said:
    To be fair Parker was actually pretty decent at Wembley. If that flick between the legs had gone in it would’ve been a special goal.

    Also won us the free kick (which he probably had no right to win) in the 94th minute that we played from and scored from. 

    He definitely wasn’t prolific but he certainly tried and did help the team, which is what we needed.
    My vetokele comment above was a joke. Veteokele had just hit form when he got injured and I was nervous that Parker had to play potentially 3 play off games. He did well and deserves credit.

    im still convinced that if he had given him a 2 year deal, he still wouldnt have scored 
    Other than one goal in the Checkatrade last season, Parker failed to score at both Charlton and Wycombe...
    Parker was shit, bogle is 100% a better player all round, we were spoilt with grant and Taylor and that is why the bar is so high, imo
    Yeh but some fans think Bogle was shit DAZ so Parker must have been shitier than shit 😲.


  • Think I saw this mentioned on here, Terry Taylor is going to Burton according to Football Insider. Think it was mentioned we may have been the unnamed club. 
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