I'm one of the few that actually think he did ok for us. He needed a bit of confidence and you can bet your bottom dollar that he will score goals once he has gone, probably against us lol
Hard to argue he's done well overall but he's certainly been decent in patches, and there are definitely valid arguments to be made as to why he's not been more of a success not being purely down to his own lack of ability or application. I would certainly say that he's been nowhere near as bad as some of the hyperbole on here and twitter would suggest.
With Aneke and Stockley around he's third choice in the target man role, so if we need to free up wages there are probably areas of the squad with less depth that the wages could be better spent on reinforcing. That being said, as I stated elsewhere on here, he ain't bad for a third choice at League 1 level and with Chuks so injury prone I'd ideally prefer to keep Bogle around as backup. It's been a persistent problem that we've had two players for every position but one of them is always injured meaning the other one has to play too many matches and will eventually break down themselves. We're constantly chasing our tails trying to get everyone fit and I worry that could happen with Chuks and Stockley if one of them goes out injured. I can't see a front two of Washington and Schwartz working well at all with no one to hold the ball up and bring the midfield into play.
I tend to agree with you about Omar Bogle. Even when he was fouled by the keeper against Swindon he managed to scored but was pilloried because he did . Chuks missed a sitter against Swindon and nobody said a word against him and it was a sitter .
You mention bogles goal against Swindon but what did he do 5 minutes later?
all strikers miss chances, fact.
the reason that bogle gets criticised is because he misses lots of chances two score two goals. Snake scores often.
As I said he misses one and it ain't forgotten. Aneke misses or does very little like tonight and you forgive him. I think you reinforce bias to suit your view. Bogle is not the best but he is not as bad as people on here think either Aneke has to be stored in bubble wrap at the end of each game which is worrying.
The problem is he hasn’t missed one has he? Bristol rovers, remember that miss? Earlier in the season he was through on goal and turned back. Aneke misses chances because he gets in dangerous positions. Bogle wouldn’t have attacked the ball against Swindon or rochdale like Aneke did.
But aren’t you reinforcing bias for bogle to suit your view?
Aneke is being managed very well this season. Aneke didn’t have the greatest of games but he came on when we were camped in our own half.
He broke away once and was hacked. He also broke down the right late on, lost the ball, won it back and got us a throw to relieve the pressure.
what did Aneke do wrong tonight?
would you have bogle in the team ahead of Aneke.
Bowyer often had Bogle on before Aneke. He even said he wears CBS out for Aneke. I thought we lost something when Washington went off. That is another one whi gets slated. Tonight someone said on player markings , " What did Washington do apart from one cross". Silly statement.
As for what did Aneke do wrong..? It is more a matter of what little he did because he isn't defensive minded or effective there.
Bogle was fine last game and I think he is a confidence player. Fans on his back is no good carping about everything. He won the penalty at Gillingham that Washington missed.
If he leaves he will do well. Doncaster appesr torate him.and their team is better than ours. Strange that.
Could it also be that Doncaster are interested in Bogle because as the old argument goes on here, what goalscorer do we expect to bring in under the wage cap? Who can we pick up to score 12 goals between now and the end of the season within the wage cap? You can guarantee those who oppose the cap are all thinking this along with those who voted for it and need a striker, most teams in this league will fall into those two categories.
Having signed Bogle in the summer teams will know he is on a salary within the wage cap and is therefore affordable if they have room to sign him.
A gamble? Maybe. Not guaranteed a first team start? Probably. Scraping the barrel even? It happens and it did with Josh Parker so the same can apply to Bogle and whoever signs him.
I can see how Bogle will be attractive to other teams it doesn't mean we're making a mistake and if it works out for him elsewhere fair play and good luck to him.
I'm one of the few that actually think he did ok for us. He needed a bit of confidence and you can bet your bottom dollar that he will score goals once he has gone, probably against us lol
Hard to argue he's done well overall but he's certainly been decent in patches, and there are definitely valid arguments to be made as to why he's not been more of a success not being purely down to his own lack of ability or application. I would certainly say that he's been nowhere near as bad as some of the hyperbole on here and twitter would suggest.
With Aneke and Stockley around he's third choice in the target man role, so if we need to free up wages there are probably areas of the squad with less depth that the wages could be better spent on reinforcing. That being said, as I stated elsewhere on here, he ain't bad for a third choice at League 1 level and with Chuks so injury prone I'd ideally prefer to keep Bogle around as backup. It's been a persistent problem that we've had two players for every position but one of them is always injured meaning the other one has to play too many matches and will eventually break down themselves. We're constantly chasing our tails trying to get everyone fit and I worry that could happen with Chuks and Stockley if one of them goes out injured. I can't see a front two of Washington and Schwartz working well at all with no one to hold the ball up and bring the midfield into play.
I tend to agree with you about Omar Bogle. Even when he was fouled by the keeper against Swindon he managed to scored but was pilloried because he did . Chuks missed a sitter against Swindon and nobody said a word against him and it was a sitter .
You mention bogles goal against Swindon but what did he do 5 minutes later?
all strikers miss chances, fact.
the reason that bogle gets criticised is because he misses lots of chances two score two goals. Snake scores often.
As I said he misses one and it ain't forgotten. Aneke misses or does very little like tonight and you forgive him. I think you reinforce bias to suit your view. Bogle is not the best but he is not as bad as people on here think either Aneke has to be stored in bubble wrap at the end of each game which is worrying.
The problem is he hasn’t missed one has he? Bristol rovers, remember that miss? Earlier in the season he was through on goal and turned back. Aneke misses chances because he gets in dangerous positions. Bogle wouldn’t have attacked the ball against Swindon or rochdale like Aneke did.
But aren’t you reinforcing bias for bogle to suit your view?
Aneke is being managed very well this season. Aneke didn’t have the greatest of games but he came on when we were camped in our own half.
He broke away once and was hacked. He also broke down the right late on, lost the ball, won it back and got us a throw to relieve the pressure.
what did Aneke do wrong tonight?
would you have bogle in the team ahead of Aneke.
Bowyer often had Bogle on before Aneke. He even said he wears CBS out for Aneke. I thought we lost something when Washington went off. That is another one whi gets slated. Tonight someone said on player markings , " What did Washington do apart from one cross". Silly statement.
As for what did Aneke do wrong..? It is more a matter of what little he did because he isn't defensive minded or effective there.
Bogle was fine last game and I think he is a confidence player. Fans on his back is no good carping about everything. He won the penalty at Gillingham that Washington missed.
If he leaves he will do well. Doncaster appesr torate him.and their team is better than ours. Strange that.
Why bring Washington into this?
Do you disagree with the bit about Washington? He was comparing players that often get criticised no matter what they do.
Bogle and Washington both fall into that category.
We constantly hear how Wash isn't good enough yet every game he turns up, busts a gut and is a positive outlet for the team.
He's scored 7 and has 2 assists... That's not bad in half a season. He is beneficial to our game as shown by our game plan crumbling when he went off injured.
But the discussion was about Aneke and bogle. I asked questions on bogle and Aneke and the answer back was Washington.
You just want to make a scapegoat of a player. I have seen this before only for players to leave have had lots of crap heaped on them only to play in higher divisions for much better teams.
Bogle isn’t a scape goat, he just isn’t very good.
the fact that bowyer wants to move him on says it all. Bogle has scored 7 goals in 3 years, he will not go on and play and score at a higher level. He has played at a higher level and failed.
it’s a shame but he just isn’t very good at this level
I can understand people saying bogle is not up to it and not good enough but what I can’t understand is how people think Aneke is a world beater.
His the most inconsistent player I’ve ever seen I think. Did he even touch the ball last night The last 2 games his come on as sub I don’t think his managed to get anywhere near most of our long balls out of deference. You need to a least challenge the defender. Bogle still done this and was when he got dragged of early. But twice now Aneke has done it and nothing is said.
How people think his good enough to play in championship is beyond me.
I can understand people saying bogle is not up to it and not good enough but what I can’t understand is how people think Aneke is a world beater.
His the most inconsistent player I’ve ever seen I think. Did he even touch the ball last night The last 2 games his come on as sub I don’t think his managed to get anywhere near most of our long balls out of deference. You need to a least challenge the defender. Bogle still done this and was when he got dragged of early. But twice now Aneke has done it and nothing is said.
How people think his good enough to play in championship is beyond me.
Might be down to the fact he has the best minutes per goal ratio in the entire league one, the second best minutes per goal ratio in the entire football league, all this whilst having to be managed for injuries.
Even bowyer said if he didn’t have issues he’d be comfortably playing at a higher level.
About 5 days left to the window closes and we’re got two outgoing players in Smyth and Bogle. Imagine the important question is whether they release enough funds on the wage bill to allow us to bring another player in this window.
But he has got issues he can’t play 90 minutes and is inconsistent.he will control the ball one minute instantly the next 5 balls to him he can’t.
By the way we play in league one not championship. like I say why all the praise for him l don’t get it.
Sorry his not all that league one is his level unless he becomes more consistent missed 2 sitters against Swindon if bogle had missed them he would have been slatted.
Thought Liam was outstanding last night, at both ends of the pitch.
Did concern me though if he picked up a knock / injury where the forward impetus would come from, could still do with a Liam mark 2 type of player, if the cap fits signing.
Thought Liam was outstanding last night, at both ends of the pitch.
Did concern me though if he picked up a knock / injury where the forward impetus would come from, could still do with a Liam mark 2 type of player, if the cap fits signing.
I'd like to see him played on the right more often, he is very one footed. I think he would cause damage from crosses
aneke is big, strong and mobile. Bogle is big strong and immobile.
anekes being mobile allows him to run at defenders which scares them. Not only does him running at goal create chances for himself, but also others. Schwartz v rochdale springs to mind. Snake running at defenders caused a hack last nigh. He also came back to help the defenders last night abs was carrying the ball forward when the whistle went.
bigle plays more back to goal which means the ball goes back rather than forward. The problem is that the ball often goes back to a different colour shirt. Bogle creates very few chances for himself or others in comparison to Aneke.
Bogle has only scored 20% of the goals that Aneke has. I’m not sure of the minutes played by both but I would it is relatively even.
Aneke looks like he will create or score most times he is on the pitch. Bogle doesn’t.
when bogle leaves, I will not lose sleep. He is another kandol, sodje and abbot. People defend him because he is a Charlton player and I get that, he just isn’t a very good Charlton player.
I'm one of the few that actually think he did ok for us. He needed a bit of confidence and you can bet your bottom dollar that he will score goals once he has gone, probably against us lol
Hard to argue he's done well overall but he's certainly been decent in patches, and there are definitely valid arguments to be made as to why he's not been more of a success not being purely down to his own lack of ability or application. I would certainly say that he's been nowhere near as bad as some of the hyperbole on here and twitter would suggest.
With Aneke and Stockley around he's third choice in the target man role, so if we need to free up wages there are probably areas of the squad with less depth that the wages could be better spent on reinforcing. That being said, as I stated elsewhere on here, he ain't bad for a third choice at League 1 level and with Chuks so injury prone I'd ideally prefer to keep Bogle around as backup. It's been a persistent problem that we've had two players for every position but one of them is always injured meaning the other one has to play too many matches and will eventually break down themselves. We're constantly chasing our tails trying to get everyone fit and I worry that could happen with Chuks and Stockley if one of them goes out injured. I can't see a front two of Washington and Schwartz working well at all with no one to hold the ball up and bring the midfield into play.
I tend to agree with you about Omar Bogle. Even when he was fouled by the keeper against Swindon he managed to scored but was pilloried because he did . Chuks missed a sitter against Swindon and nobody said a word against him and it was a sitter .
You mention bogles goal against Swindon but what did he do 5 minutes later?
all strikers miss chances, fact.
the reason that bogle gets criticised is because he misses lots of chances two score two goals. Snake scores often.
Hasn't Bogle scored as many league goals as the snake this season?
Bogle 2 goals in 17 games Snake 4 goals in 25 games
Almost as good goals per game, especially when Bogle has been subed at half time twice and after half an hour once :-)
But it must be hard at big boy school if he can't mange 1 in 5.
Bogle played 17 (started 12 of them) 2 goals in 856 mins = 1 goal every 428 mins= 1 goal every 4.75 games
Taylor played 25 (started 13 of them) 4 goals in 1363 mins = 1 goal every 340 mins = 1 goal every 3.78 games
aneke is big, strong and mobile. Bogle is big strong and immobile.
anekes being mobile allows him to run at defenders which scares them. Not only does him running at goal create chances for himself, but also others. Schwartz v rochdale springs to mind. Snake running at defenders caused a hack last nigh. He also came back to help the defenders last night abs was carrying the ball forward when the whistle went.
bigle plays more back to goal which means the ball goes back rather than forward. The problem is that the ball often goes back to a different colour shirt. Bogle creates very few chances for himself or others in comparison to Aneke.
Bogle has only scored 20% of the goals that Aneke has. I’m not sure of the minutes played by both but I would it is relatively even.
Aneke looks like he will create or score most times he is on the pitch. Bogle doesn’t.
when bogle leaves, I will not lose sleep. He is another kandol, sodje and abbot. People defend him because he is a Charlton player and I get that, he just isn’t a very good Charlton player.
Neither Bogle nor Aneke are naturally target men like say a Stockley. Despite their physical appearance. Chuks is a better target man than Bogle but that's still not his best position. They would both look better playing with Stockley. In fact there is no reason at all why you couldn't play all 3 together.
What have I said that isnt true? Do you honestly believe that Bogle is better than Aneke?
Wiki their stats. Bogle scored lots of goals at national league North Level and then did well for Grimsby at national league and league 2 level. Since he has left grimsby, his best scoring season is 4. Yes, 4!! Our full backs have 4 between them this season. " by a guy that made his first start in over 10 games!!! Are you telling me that those stats are impressive?
Aneke by comparison has hit double figures 4 times at league one level.
Aneke isnt Jimmy Greaves but he is a very good league 1 player. Bogle isnt even Robert Rosario and his stats suggest that non league/league 2 is his level. Just because doncaster are reportedly interested, doesnt make him a good player
I’ve never said bogle is a better player than Aneke I’m saying why are you so in love with Aneke his a good league one striker I’ll give you but not very good.
Id say Taylor BWP Paul Walsh and Hales were very good league one strikers for us and good enough to play championship not Aneke
Stockley showed yesterday what we've been missing all season in the forward role. Ability in the air, chest trap, a shot on goal and no strops/dozy moments. He also set the first up with a nice flick out wide, to which he nearly finished but obviously got a loud call so left alone.
I’ve never said bogle is a better player than Aneke I’m saying why are you so in love with Aneke his a good league one striker I’ll give you but not very good.
Id say Taylor BWP Paul Walsh and Hales were very good league one strikers for us and good enough to play championship not Aneke
Pure guesswork as Aneke not really had a chance. You cannot count last season as it was a write off for him. BWP was a goalscorer, one who scored roughly 30 goals in 150 games at Championship level (1 in 20 for us).
I’ve never said bogle is a better player than Aneke I’m saying why are you so in love with Aneke his a good league one striker I’ll give you but not very good.
Id say Taylor BWP Paul Walsh and Hales were very good league one strikers for us and good enough to play championship not Aneke
Sorry if i've missed something on here, but my son keeps mentioning this geezer @ Exeter, any chance of getting him , i'm probably getting him mixed up with another player so will probably put the wrong name down, , is it Randell Williams?
Sorry if i've missed something on here, but my son keeps mentioning this geezer @ Exeter, any chance of getting him , i'm probably getting him mixed up with another player so will probably put the wrong name down, , is it Randell Williams?
Nope... Joe Randall - Dont expect anything to happen with it though
Bowyer and Gallen dont think he's worth the £1m yet on a handful of League Two games
Thought Liam was outstanding last night, at both ends of the pitch.
Did concern me though if he picked up a knock / injury where the forward impetus would come from, could still do with a Liam mark 2 type of player, if the cap fits signing.
I'd like to see him played on the right more often, he is very one footed. I think he would cause damage from crosses
Yes I agree with that, and in the middle occasionally
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Having signed Bogle in the summer teams will know he is on a salary within the wage cap and is therefore affordable if they have room to sign him.
A gamble? Maybe. Not guaranteed a first team start? Probably. Scraping the barrel even? It happens and it did with Josh Parker so the same can apply to Bogle and whoever signs him.
I can see how Bogle will be attractive to other teams it doesn't mean we're making a mistake and if it works out for him elsewhere fair play and good luck to him.
the fact that bowyer wants to move him on says it all. Bogle has scored 7 goals in 3 years, he will not go on and play and score at a higher level. He has played at a higher level and failed.
it’s a shame but he just isn’t very good at this level
The last 2 games his come on as sub I don’t think his managed to get anywhere near most of our long balls out of deference. You need to a least challenge the defender. Bogle still done this and was when he got dragged of early. But twice now Aneke has done it and nothing is said.
like I say why all the praise for him l don’t get it.
Did concern me though if he picked up a knock / injury where the forward impetus would come from, could still do with a Liam mark 2 type of player, if the cap fits signing.
anekes being mobile allows him to run at defenders which scares them. Not only does him running at goal create chances for himself, but also others. Schwartz v rochdale springs to mind. Snake running at defenders caused a hack last nigh. He also came back to help the defenders last night abs was carrying the ball forward when the whistle went.
bigle plays more back to goal which means the ball goes back rather than forward. The problem is that the ball often goes back to a different colour shirt. Bogle creates very few chances for himself or others in comparison to Aneke.
Bogle has only scored 20% of the goals that Aneke has. I’m not sure of the minutes played by both but I would it is relatively even.
Aneke looks like he will create or score most times he is on the pitch. Bogle doesn’t.
when bogle leaves, I will not lose sleep. He is another kandol, sodje and abbot. People defend him because he is a Charlton player and I get that, he just isn’t a very good Charlton player.
What have I said that isnt true? Do you honestly believe that Bogle is better than Aneke?
Wiki their stats. Bogle scored lots of goals at national league North Level and then did well for Grimsby at national league and league 2 level. Since he has left grimsby, his best scoring season is 4. Yes, 4!! Our full backs have 4 between them this season. " by a guy that made his first start in over 10 games!!! Are you telling me that those stats are impressive?
Aneke by comparison has hit double figures 4 times at league one level.
Aneke isnt Jimmy Greaves but he is a very good league 1 player. Bogle isnt even Robert Rosario and his stats suggest that non league/league 2 is his level. Just because doncaster are reportedly interested, doesnt make him a good player
worth a orgasm 🤪
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55757946
Bowyer and Gallen dont think he's worth the £1m yet on a handful of League Two games