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Leeds United v Charlton Athletic | Wed 22 July | 19.30pm | Match Preview, Predictions, News & Views
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I really don’t think we have much chance here, Leeds are the best team in the division, they’ve had their on the beach day and will want to see the season out in style.
We’ll be relying on what happens elsewhere and, most likely (as I think Luton will win), whether Wigan get their points defection.4 -
I’m really hoping that Field is fit to start, as we’re going to need his defensive ability and calm use of the ball to keep things ticking over. If he’s out (and I can’t see JFC recovering from a groin strain), I guess that Albie and maybe even George Lapslie will come in. I’d rather not see Deji labouring out of position in midfield.Subject to fatigue and any other players carrying knocks, the same line up as Wigan would make sense, with Davison starting ahead of Hemed. Although Josh is raw and inexperienced, we’re going to need some movement and pace up front to give our players an out ball and relieve the pressure. Williams, McGeady and Aneke are also more than useful options to deploy from the bench.
In contrast to their underwhelming performance against Barnsley, Leeds are likely to play with freedom and a sense of joie de vivre, although this Charlton team are nothing if not fighters. With a bit of overdue luck, we are capable of taking something from the game, provided we avoid any sloppiness at the back. We are also, I think, going to need a big performance from our outstanding young goalkeeper.
Apropos of Don Revie and Leeds in the1970s, I remember that they also introduced absurd sock tags with the players’ numbers on. Thankfully, that was one innovation that didn’t catch on, although these apparently now sell for substantial sums on ebay, so what do I know.
Finally, can I add my thanks to @Sage and @ForeverAddickted for their excellent and insightful previews throughout the season. It can’t always have been easy to keep going at many of the low points and your commitment to the CL cause is admirable.7 -
Defeat but we still stay up.5
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I feel like we always say this, but I’m not really sure it’s true this season. Getting a late goal against Wigan was wonderful, but it feels like we’ve conceded a lot of late goals (not sure if that’s statistically true) and our inability to see games out could cost us very dearly.Blucher said:I’m really hoping that Field is fit to start, as we’re going to need his defensive ability and calm use of the ball to keep things ticking over. If he’s out (and I can’t see JFC recovering from a groin strain), I guess that Albie and maybe even George Lapslie will come in. I’d rather not see Deji labouring out of position in midfield.Subject to fatigue and any other players carrying knocks, the same line up as Wigan would make sense, with Davison starting ahead of Hemed. Although Josh is raw and inexperienced, we’re going to need some movement and pace up front to give our players an out ball and relieve the pressure. Williams, McGeady and Aneke are also more than useful options to deploy from the bench.
In contrast to their underwhelming performance against Barnsley, Leeds are likely to play with freedom and a sense of joie de vivre, although this Charlton team are nothing if not fighters. With a bit of overdue luck, we are capable of taking something from the game, provided we avoid any sloppiness at the back. We are also, I think, going to need a big performance from our outstanding young goalkeeper.
Apropos of Don Revie and Leeds in the1970s, I remember that they also introduced absurd sock tags with the players’ numbers on. Thankfully, that was one innovation that didn’t catch on, although these apparently now sell for substantial sums on ebay, so what do I know.
Finally, can I add my thanks to @Sage and @ForeverAddickted for their excellent and insightful previews throughout the season. It can’t always have been easy to keep going at many of the low points and your commitment to the CL cause is admirable.
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You’re absolutely right about the concession of late goals @se9addick, but I personally think that’s primarily down to our low possession stats and the tiredness, physically and mentally, that results from that. Teams who can’t keep the ball tend to get worn out. Lack of confidence and fear also plays a part, of course.2
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Difference is here with leeds they are patient build up side any way if we go 1 - 0 up they aren't going just throw everything at us they dont need to , the only way we lose this game is if we go too open too early, keep it cagey and see what's going on else where.2
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Bottom 3 and we wait, and wait and wait...1
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Everyones so pessimistic here! Leeds are champs and on the piss with nothing to play for, and no crowd. We are up for it and have already beaten them this year. Its meant to be with bowyer going back to leeds.We will do it!3
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Defeat and relegation.0
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Just a reminder current table including Wigan's deduction:
If Wednesday do get a deduction, they can save Wigan!# Club Matches W D L Goals +/- Pts 1 
Leeds 45 27 9 9 73:35 38 90 2 
West Brom 45 22 16 7 75:43 32 82 3 
Brentford 45 24 9 12 79:36 43 81 4 
Fulham 45 23 11 11 63:47 16 80 5 
Nottm Forest 45 18 16 11 57:46 11 70 6 
Cardiff 45 18 16 11 65:58 7 70 7 
Swansea 45 17 16 12 58:52 6 67 8 
Preston NE 45 18 11 16 58:53 5 65 9 
Millwall 45 16 17 12 53:50 3 65 10 
Blackburn 45 17 12 16 64:60 4 63 11 
Bristol City 45 17 11 17 59:64 -5 62 12 
Derby 45 16 13 16 59:63 -4 61 13 
QPR 45 16 9 20 65:74 -9 57 14 
Reading 45 15 11 19 58:54 4 56 15 
Sheff Wed 45 15 11 19 57:64 -7 56 16 
Stoke City 45 15 8 22 58:67 -9 53 17 
Huddersfield 45 13 12 20 51:66 -15 51 18 
Middlesbrough 45 12 14 19 46:60 -14 50 19 
Birmingham 45 12 14 19 53:72 -19 50 20 
Charlton 45 12 12 21 50:61 -11 48 21 
Luton 45 13 9 23 51:80 -29 48 22 
Wigan * 45 15 13 17 56:55 1 46 23 
Barnsley FC 45 11 13 21 47:68 -21 46 24 
Hull City 45 12 9 24 57:84 -27 45 1 -
So we are fighters...until we get tired before the end of the match and concede!Blucher said:You’re absolutely right about the concession of late goals @se9addick, but I personally think that’s primarily down to our low possession stats and the tiredness, physically and mentally, that results from that. Teams who can’t keep the ball tend to get worn out. Lack of confidence and fear also plays a part, of course.0 -
That’s about the size of it - the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak !3
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5-0 Leeds.
No idea about the other games though.0 -
The Brentford game will be the template for the Leeds game. Charlton were excellent for 60 minutes against Brentford but we have few midfielders or forwards capable of playing 100 minutes which is the average length of our matches since the mini League started. Macaulay Bonne may be the only one as he proved by taking that added time goal with aplomb.
Leeds shooting was really poor at the Valley despite them dominating the match.
I won't be on the match thread as it's the optimists on CL before the game who slaughter our honest players the most.
No pressure on the Leeds team which may or not work in our favour. A plucky defeat for me. I Could never see how we could lose to Millwall, Reading and give away the late goal to Birmingham and not be in the bottom 3.
Other than Hull who have been useless in every game bar 1 in the mini league, every team in bottom 7 have matched or beaten our points total so far.1 -
This thread is not good for my health. I had managed to put the game aside in my head with the plan of worrying about it at 7.29 on Wednesday. Now, I'm starting to fret. Yes, I know it will all be alright on the night but I wish it was done already.1
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I kind of resigned myself to relegation after the failure to hold on against Birmingham. In the cold light of day, after the excitement of a last minute equaliser, picking up a point against Wigan doesn’t really make up for dropping two against Brum.thai malaysia addick said:This thread is not good for my health. I had managed to put the game aside in my head with the plan of worrying about it at 7.29 on Wednesday. Now, I'm starting to fret. Yes, I know it will all be alright on the night but I wish it was done already.1 -
Whilst I agree that the Brum result was a bit of a disaster, please remember that although we earned 1pt against Wigan we stopped them gaining 2 with that goal at the end as well...se9addick said:
I kind of resigned myself to relegation after the failure to hold on against Birmingham. In the cold light of day, after the excitement of a last minute equaliser, picking up a point against Wigan doesn’t really make up for dropping two against Brum.thai malaysia addick said:This thread is not good for my health. I had managed to put the game aside in my head with the plan of worrying about it at 7.29 on Wednesday. Now, I'm starting to fret. Yes, I know it will all be alright on the night but I wish it was done already.1 -
EFL AGM to be held in middle of August and we may not know until then which clubs will be relegated, after all the appeals have done0
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1 - 1 Draw , Bonne with our goal.0
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The way to look at it is we would have been relegated if the season had not restarted. That was looking the most likely possibility for quite a while. Tomorrow's game is one we would have all taken at that time.12
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Because we have a very good record against the top 6 I guess.soapboxsam said:The Brentford game will be the template for the Leeds game. Charlton were excellent for 60 minutes against Brentford but we have few midfielders or forwards capable of playing 100 minutes which is the average length of our matches since the mini League started. Macaulay Bonne may be the only one as he proved by taking that added time goal with aplomb.
Leeds shooting was really poor at the Valley despite them dominating the match.
I won't be on the match thread as it's the optimists on CL before the game who slaughter our honest players the most.
No pressure on the Leeds team which may or not work in our favour. A plucky defeat for me. I Could never see how we could lose to Millwall, Reading and give away the late goal to Birmingham and not be in the bottom 3.
Other than Hull who have been useless in every game bar 1 in the mini league, every team in bottom 7 have matched or beaten our points total so far.
Which is why I think we have a chance tomorrow, a view which was cemented by our spirited performance against Wigan. Leeds are good, but they're not *that* good, and I doubt they'll be able to give 100% with nothing to play for. We surprised Wigan, and you could see their (over) confidence draining away after our first equaliser. Even when they went a goal up they were quite nervous, and fortunately their time wasting was punished by our second.
To me it's like last year's play off final. Win, and we get to play in the Championship next season.
And if the gods are smiling on us, and other results go our way, we also might - even if we draw or lose.
It's funny how some lifers have predicted heavy defeats all season, and they haven't materialised. Hopefully tomorrow will be no different.
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I'm nervous already.
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I don’t think we’ll get any favours out of Leeds. Think we’ll lose by 3 or 4. We’re depending on Blackburn, Brentford and Fulham to help us avoid the drop1
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Not sure we will ship 4 goals but Leeds will not do us any favours. A weak hungover Leeds team are still a lot better than us3
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Leaving aside our result, if Blackburn and Brentford win, we're safe_MrDick said:I don’t think we’ll get any favours out of Leeds. Think we’ll lose by 3 or 4. We’re depending on Blackburn, Brentford and Fulham to help us avoid the drop
The Wigan situation is a massive "second" chance but I'd much rather be safe without having to rely on them4 -
Where's the Roll Call Thread?0
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And the EFL at that._MrDick said:I don’t think we’ll get any favours out of Leeds. Think we’ll lose by 3 or 4. We’re depending on Blackburn, Brentford and Fulham to help us avoid the drop
Thanks for the previews this season @Sage and FA. I rarely predict on the threads but tomorrow I can't see us getting the win however hard I want us to have it. An early goal for Leeds and the legs will go on our players soon after for a heavy rout.
P.S. I also rarely predict the result as I am terrible at it.
One last time this season COYA!!!2 -
First of first of all, a big thanks to sage for another great preview. His words of wisdom have been a joy to read all season and looking forward to more next term - hopefully in the Championship.
Now, will we be there?
I believe we have a great chance of at least avoiding defeat at Leeds ans, possibly, winning. Why? Because of all the talk of Leeds' professionalism etc, I don't think their heads will be in the right place and with our team of fighters, we can, hopefully, capitalise.
2-1 to the Addicks.2 -
Not Hemed please3
